Vaccines got full FDA approval

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quietly work around it
Yeah I have a friend whose girlfriend is a nurse that might be able to provide me with one of them cards. That's the current "workaround" option (along with those guys carrying around fake print out vaxx cards). Downside to this is of course hefty fine/jail time. But even that downside to me is better than the unknown long term side effects of this experimental vaccine. The "safe" workaround is visiting venues/applying for jobs/apartments who don't have "must be fully vaccinated" rules. Which are far and few between. No clear winner as none of the options are very attractive. So that's where I'm at.
 

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It's about managing downside risk. One of my HS classmates is in an induced Coma right now. Yes unvaccinated ...but he doesn't ask what's in the dozen or so products they are trying to save his life with...

From his Twin Brother...
Most of you know, I saw my twin brother at Stanford today for the 1st time in almost a month. 8/5 he went to the emergency at Santa Teresa Kaiser as he had COVID symptoms for 8 days. He was placed in a Coma on 8/10 and transferred to Stanford on 8/16 to be placed on ECMO treatment.
Going into the hospital today 8/31, I was filled with mixed emotions. I was nervous, anxiety high, emotional, hopeful, happy, sad, scared, exhausted and blessed to be able to spend time with him.
But my stay was surreal. Jesse's body is critically ill. He has multiple machines helping him breath, clean his blood, control his body temperature, tubes to feed him, tubes to administer medication of all kinds, to draw his blood, to help him drain the urine/fluids from his body and so much more. His arms are restrained so he doesn't pull out his tubes, because if he did, it would kill him. I can only imagine how uncomfortable he must feel. Both his lungs are filled with fluid/muscous and at times, he seemed to struggle to take each breath. His body shivered uncontrollably for 5-1/2 of the 6 hours I was next to him and the Dr's don't know what the cause is from. Is it from the Tracheostomy tube, Sedation/Antibiotics medicine, Infections, Fever, Lungs, Liver, kidneys, etc??? The only thing that keeps him from shivering is narcotics to keep the pain away and allow him to be sedated, which at times still doesn't work. The shivering is not good because it depleats his oxygen and puts more stress on his body. The ****ty part is that the medicines help one thing, but can cause other complications, and he's on so many.
He was heavily sedated throughout my stay and at times, his eyes were open. I would look at him, talk to him and I felt he heard me with no response. But I felt when I talked to him, it agitated him as his heart rate, blood pressure increased as well as his shivering and difficulty breathing. I'm not sure if this was because he wanted to say something to me and couldn't or didn't have the energy. I saw a tear roll down his eye and it broke my heart. I can't tell you the helpless feeling I had not being able to do something for Jesse. It was heartbreaking to see him struggle. Every time I think of Jesse, it makes me cry. I can't imagine my life without him.
My brother is 47 and has always been a strong, stubborn, independent man who has never needed much help and who has always helped others. It's not fair this happened to him. If Jesse was vaccinated, would he be in this position he's in today? I bet ya a million $$$$ if he could go back and do it all over again, he'd 100% have gotten the vaccine for a chance to have limited these COVID symptoms and be with his family again. I struggle with his decision to not be vaccinated every day. It haunts me.
I have been relying on prayer, faith and the support of others to keep me motivated and positive. But today was extremely tough. I'm not confident, more scared then before and I'm fearful for the outcome. I will continue to pray the treatments are going to help Jesse fight his infections and support the healing of his lungs. And keep him as comfortable as possible through this ordeal. Please lord, help my brother heal, give him the strength to fight this battle and give me the strength to stay positive.
Lord I pray, AMEN!
 

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I'm vaccinated and, no, I don't know what's in it - neither this vaccine, the ones I had as a child, nor in the Big Mac, or in hot dogs, or in other treatments…whether it's for cancer, AIDS, the one for polyarthritis, or vaccines for infants or children. I trust MY doctor when she says it’s needed. I also don't know what's in Ibuprofen, Tylenol, or other meds, it just cures my headaches & my pains ... I don't know what's in the ink for tattoos or every ingredient in my soap or shampoo or even deodorants. I don’t know the long term effect of cell phone use or whether or not that restaurant I just ate at REALLY used clean foods and washed their hands. In short ... There's a lot of things I don't know and never will… I just know one thing: life is short, very short, and I still want to do something other than just going to work every day or staying locked in my home. I still want to travel and hug people without fear and find a little feeling of life "before". More importantly, I want my children to go back living their lives and enjoying their childhood.
As a child and as an adult I've been vaccinated for mumps, measles, rubella, polio, and quite a few others; my parents trusted the science and I never had to suffer through or transmit any of said diseases ... just saying.
You are not vaccinated, I respect your choice. I am vaccinated, respect my choice. I'm vaccinated, not to please the government but: * To not die from Covid-19. * To NOT clutter a hospital bed if I get sick. * To hug my loved ones * To Not have to do PCR or antigenic tests to go to a restaurant, to go on vacations and many more things to come ... * To live my life. * To have my kids go back to school and be carefree. * For Covid-19 to be an old memory. * To protect us.
 

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Did you get tested for Covid first and then got vaxxed?
or did you just go ahead and get vaxxed?

If you had Covid then are you supposed to get over it rather than get vaxxed on top of already having it?
The purpose of most if not all vaccines is to get them Before getting ill. You should know if you have been or are currently ill.

If you get covid you could end up in the hospital. Some people do. Doctors throw drugs and mechanical help at those patients and many still die.

The choice is yours. Take your chances and try to ride out a possibly life threatening hurricane on the coast, or go inland and stay safe and alive.
 

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This is what folks SHOULD be worried about....
Is that the stuff Bill Gates wants us to eat, while he's in his mansion eating the real thing?
 

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Still unable to get this vaccine. Prayed about it again and I blurted out two words "no vaccine" that I did not consciously chose to say this. It just came out. It looks like I will cancel the gym membership since I cant even get passports. But these are temporary measures. If the virus goes away or mutates into something less harmful they will be removing these passports.
 

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Still unable to get this vaccine. Prayed about it again and I blurted out two words "no vaccine" that I did not consciously chose to say this. It just came out. It looks like I will cancel the gym membership since I cant even get passports. But these are temporary measures. If the virus goes away or mutates into something less harmful they will be removing these passports.
No, you chose not to get the vaccine. Didn’t I say pages back you won’t get it?
 

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I just got back from a major bike ride near the lake on a crowded trail. Wore an n95 mask the whole time. I was thinking, if I had taken the jab earlier, then I wouldn't have had to wear a mask, like everyone else there who did not, and be the only odd one out wearing a full N95 mask, with dark glasses and a bike helmet.

The summer season is almost coming to an end so it doesn't matter anyway. The season is gone. Any vaccine decisions are up to the autumn now. Again there is ZERO incentive to get the vaccine. My dad is still nervous about me going to the gym, even if I got vaccinated, in terms of going into the swimming pool or hot tub, during the middle of the next fourth-wave great Canadian Covid Pandemic with the Delta. People who have taken the vaccine that I know have taken it out of fear and are worried about the virus. They are not thinking of starting to party all of a sudden and be with lots of people because they took the vaccine.

This sort of kills it for me if I can't go swimming, use the hot tub, or visit an IMAX cinema at the release date of a new movie and pretend the pandemic is over while the case counts around me are like over 20,000 new cases a week because I got vaccinated. That mindset doesn't gel.
 

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Coviid backwards "divoc" in Hebrew is "possession of an evil spirit". For those who are unaware the Jeews run this world. There is a lot of code that translates back to Hebrew & Gematria. Or the word Coronaa broken down in numerology is 666. Why don't you call Pfizeer and ask them about their fake approval? Here is their number-1800-666-7248. Satan is no longer hiding in the shadows, he is out in the open for all to see.
If jews run the world, why is israel the most vaccinated country in the world?

The virus was created by the Chinese not the Jews, the Jews in israel are suffering like the rest of us.
 
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