Vaccines got full FDA approval

[speed dawg]

I just love the people who protest against lockdowns.

"Oh no, the government wants to pay me to stay home so I don't get or spread a deadly virus! The horror!"

Lockdowns suck and wreck the economy. They are awful and do more harm than good.

I support vaccines and am vaccinated. I might even support a mask in indoor places where you can't distance (N95 only, not the cloth bullsh*t). But the lockdowns are stupid.

Vaccines are the answer, they always have been, since the beginning. It's very simple. Instead of clamoring for more lockdowns and restrictions, you should be helping educate people on vaccines. I even support restrictions for unvaccinated people (but not lockdowns). While I would like to punch you in the face for suggesting lockdowns, I want to punch even harder, the anti-vaxxers.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Covid-19 Live Updates: Japan Suspends 1.6 Million Moderna Doses Over Contamination Fears

Japan said it would suspend use of 1.63 million doses of Moderna Covid-19 vaccine after foreign substances were detected in some sealed vials.

www.wsj.com

Lockdowns suck and wreck the economy. They are awful and do more harm than good.

I support vaccines and am vaccinated. I might even support a mask in indoor places where you can't distance (N95 only, not the cloth bullsh*t). But the lockdowns are stupid.

Vaccines are the answer, they always have been, since the beginning. It's very simple. Instead of clamoring for more lockdowns and restrictions, you should be helping educate people on vaccines. I even support restrictions for unvaccinated people (but not lockdowns). While I would like to punch you in the face for suggesting lockdowns, I want to punch even harder, the anti-vaxxers.

So would you punch me for pointing out that the currently offered "vaccines" are a Medical Experiment? And if so, exactly how hard?

Also are you aware that any attempt of influencing someone to partake in a medical experiment is a violation of the Nuremberg Code? And finally, what is the ultimate penalty for Nuremberg Code violations?

If you're able to answer, that is.

 

[Billtx49]

Lockdowns suck and wreck the economy.

Vaccines are the answer, they always have been, since the beginning. It's very simple. Instead of clamoring for more lockdowns and restrictions, you should be helping educate people on vaccines.

I agree, in some areas the governing entities will only call for masking and/or lockdowns because their vaccinated percentage is not high enough. The obvious solution is to get vaccinated if some are opposed to the above two solutions, but complaining about all three is a fools errand that ignores reality…
An old friend always said - Those that are not part of the solution, are part of the problem.

 

[2Rocky]

 

[2Rocky]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/23/refuse-covid-treatment-unvaccinated-triage/

 

[EyeBRollin]

Your numbers are way off.

No. They are not.

 

[corrector]

I agree, in some areas the governing entities will only call for masking and/or lockdowns because their vaccinated percentage is not high enough. The obvious solution is to get vaccinated if some are opposed to the above two solutions, but complaining about all three is a fools errand that ignores reality…
An old friend always said - Those that are not part of the solution, are part of the problem.

All solutions wont work if you dont believe covid is a real virus in the first place or its being overhyped by the media. Most people like this were not affected or know anyone close who got the virus.

While most of my posts are deceptively pro vaxx, I have first hand heard more negative things about the vaccine than knowing anyone who personally died from covid or who has long haul. Apart from the news there has been no personal connection with any of this (not that I want any). Otherwise its quite conceivable I would have got vaccinated since May if I had no negative issue about the vacccine.

However I also know lots of family members who had no side effects at all on either dose which has helped the vaccine back on my radar and to do list.

 

[Billtx49]

However I also know lots of family members who had no side effects at all on either dose which has helped the vaccine back on my radar and to do list.

Same here, 100% No vaccine deaths for myself, family, and large circle of friends. It includes a vaccinated M.D.
I chose my personally known reality last Feb.
Still breathing

 

[EyeBRollin]

While most of my posts are deceptively pro vaxx, I have first hand heard more negative things about the vaccine than knowing anyone who personally died from covid or who has long haul.

It’s amazing that the worst of the vaccines only caused 1 death per 676,000 jabs yet everyone seems to “know someone who has negative experiences with the vaccine.” Curious…

 

[corrector]

As @RickTheToad weighed in on another thread. It's best to get a blood test done if anyone's paranoid about the vaccine, especially if you haven't been tested in a while. That way if anything does pop up after taking the vaccine (any myriad of potential side-effects) you'll know whether its the vaccine or yourself. As I haven't done one in 2 years, it's probably better to do this first.

Again, @RickTheToad works as EMS/emergency and he refused to take the vaccine (although I understand its being mandated by hospitals across the country) and has recommended extensive blood tests before taking the vaccine to make sure there are no pre-existing conditions that could be aggravated by this vaccine.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I quite frankly don't care if the FDA has approved the vaccine; they are just as incompetent and corrupt as any other government agency, so this means literally nothing to me.

I'm content to continue taking Ivermectin, NAC, Vitamin D, Zinc, going to saunas, getting sunlight, and generally taking care of my health. I'm in the best shape of my life and that's all I need.

 

[EyeBRollin]

As @RickTheToad weighed in on another thread. It's best to get a blood test done if anyone's paranoid about the vaccine, especially if you haven't been tested in a while. That way if anything does pop up after taking the vaccine (any myriad of potential side-effects) you'll know whether its the vaccine or yourself. As I haven't done one in 2 years, it's probably better to do this first.

Again, @RickTheToad works as EMS/emergency and he refused to take the vaccine (although I understand its being mandated by hospitals across the country) and has recommended extensive blood tests before taking the vaccine to make sure there are no pre-existing conditions that could be aggravated by this vaccine.

Anecdotal fallacy. Rick is neither an epidemiologist nor virologist. That is akin to asking a plastic surgeon about heart problems.

 

[RickTheToad]

Anecdotal fallacy. Rick is neither an epidemiologist nor virologist. That is akin to asking a plastic surgeon about heart problems.

My masters was in infectious diseases, but ok, you're right again (on dwarf planet Pluto).

 

[EyeBRollin]

My masters was in infectious diseases, but ok, you're right again (on dwarf planet Pluto).

Sure it was. What is your current field of practice?

 

[zekko]

I don't really care about the FDA approval either. The only thing it means to me is that anti-vaxxers can't open all their arguments with "It's an unapproved vaccine".

 

[Morpheus]

I don't really care about the FDA approval either. The only thing it means to me is that anti-vaxxers can't open all their arguments with "It's an unapproved vaccine".

If you check the posts on pages 1 and 2 of this thread, you will find that you can't even claim that. ''It'', that is, the Pfizer vaccine has actually NOT been approved. Another vaccine product, which isn't even available at present was approved.

 

[RickTheToad]

Sure it was. What is your current field of practice?

Reading your brilliant posts on So Suave.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Reading your brilliant posts on So Suave.

What medical application is that?

 

[corrector]

Same rules apply. There has to be proof of causation.



Being vaccinated with Pfizer is safer than being unvaccinated. That is the fact. Your belief is that Pfizer is not 100% safe.

New Zealand woman dies after receiving Pfizer vaccine

Officials say she also had other medical issues which could have contributed to her death.

www.bbc.com

 

[corrector]

Anti-vax are so desperate.

But I’ll play ball. From his own article:


72 deaths out of 48.7 million jabs. That accounts for 1 death out of 676,000 jabs. And this is the “bad” vaccine they won’t even allow in the USA & Canada.

A leaked source says there are 4 times as many deaths from the Pfizer vaccine than the Astrazeneca vaccine.