Vaccines got full FDA approval

EyeBRollin

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Desperation. Give it up my friend:
Two conditions were linked to the vaccines - inflammation of the heart muscle itself, known as myocarditis, and inflammation of the fluid-filled sac the heart sits in, known as pericarditis.

The EMA analysis of cases found:
  • Pfizer-BioNTech - 145 cases of myocarditis and 138 cases of pericarditis out of 177m doses given
  • Moderna - 19 case of myocarditis and 19 cases of pericarditis out of 20 million doses given
Five people died. The review said they were all either elderly or had other health conditions.
The lottery has better odds…
 

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Thanks again Corrector.

Now, I want to raise your example of a single death by roughly a hundred thousand fold.

One credible estimate of the numbers of deaths from these vaccines in the United States is between 72,000 and 180,000.

Covid vaccine injuries [rumble.com]

If in a hurry, you might want to skip to the 6 minute mark where the speaker is Dr Robert W Malone.

The full episode, from which it is an excerpt:

Combating covid - A Drs special [rumble.com]

Of course, the total of other adverse events would be much higher, presumably well over a million.

Also: @BillyPilgrim

How do you post the fancy links to rumble.com with the nice previews etc?
 

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Desperation. Give it up my friend:


The lottery has better odds…
like I said before there is no reason to send you facts, you will disregard and keep trying to push your feelings, you are worse then a woman now, serious I don't even feel satisfaction on being right, kinda sad really
 

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That's one in the death column for the vaccine, no point in denying it. I wonder how old she was?
Also this link doesn't really help anti-vaxxers, because it's from the MSM and is therefore a lie.
The link is from BBC.
 

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The lottery has better odds…
Correct.
We all know your odds of dying from covid are extremely low. The reason why some of us don't want to get the covid 19 vaccine, is how we see it being forced upon society ("lol nobody is forcing you to take the vaccine bro" "take the vaccine or your fired/can't eat here/workout here/go to school here."). Ask why? Instead of submitting to authorities. Those who spread their message (mainstream media/peers) and shame/ridicule you for it (mainstream media/peers).

So when you actually stop and ask "why"Its not crazy to think there is an ulterior motive at play here.

"Walk in and schedule your FREE COVID-19 vaccine today."

When you get something for free, "you" are the product.
 
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I Really hate it when some of those pesky facts get in the way of a decent conspiracy theory…
 

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Source? Especially physicians. There have already been surveys of highly educated people (eg. PhDs etc.) saying that they are avoiding it and people with medical backgrounds are clearly also exceedingly hesitant to say the least. For instance, I have direct evidence of this from from this very forum itself, and another forum, more medical in orientation than this one, that I have some familiarity with. As with everything, it is not 100 per cent either way and many have been vaccinated. Clearly there are also confounding factors like all the presidents being in a high risk group, the elderly. Many doctors are emphatic that children should not be vaccinated with these experimental vaccines and I really cannot see the logic to its myself. Why? But there seems to be very little logic or understanding about, especially in places like Australia.
 

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I guess one could also argue that doctors are a high risk group, exposure wise.
 

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It makes sense now that the shot that was causing the most reactions, moderna, we now know makes twice the antibodies as the phizer shot, which I had about six months ago. This is the point in time where the phizer shot begins to crater in effectiveness.
 

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@samspade

I can't be at peace with it. Knowing that it makes my life a lot more difficult. By restricting my freedom. Thereby affecting my happiness.

That a bunch of blind posters here blindly accept 2rocky's Facebook boomer meme as "fact". Not knowing that that 99.2% number was pulled from out of thin air.

That I should be dead by now. Have spread the virus to all my coworkers. Girlfriend. And anyone else I've come in contact with. Due to being unvaccinated and vulnerable. Never wearing a mask or abiding by the 6 feet rule.



Common sense would say if the covid vaccines were effective in preventing the spread of the virus, the two charts above would be impossible.

Therefore it's a placebo. If you got infected, and were going to die, you were going to die anyway (vaccinated or not). If you weren't going to die, you weren't going to die (vaccinated or not). But because you survived, you'll say it was the vaccine that prevented your death. Causation correlation. And ignore those who survived, that did not get the vaccine (99.9%). Because it doesn't fit the narrative.

but yeah If it did not affect my freedom at all, sure I wouldn't give a sht lol. I'd just keep doing me. But I can't. So I come in here to stop the fearmongering. By spreading common sense instead. People are followers. What I've noticed is if they see you not wearing a mask. They will be less inclined to wear one. What I've noticed on NYC subways and bodegas. Stop the spread of propaganda. You are their messenger boy.
 

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Whatever decision you make, you must be willing to accept the price or potential price. In that way it can't restrict your freedom or your happiness
Not being allowed certain places ("alright can't go there. Can't apply there") only because I refuse to submit to those who wanna force everyone to take something even if they don't even need it is literally restricting freedom lol. Your trying spin zone it. Let's call a spade a spade, Samspade (had to...)
Someone ridiculing you for wearing a mask (or not wearing one) is just another frame test.
Eh not so much ridicule with the mask. More just get questioned by peers why I'm not vaccinated. Annoying more.
 

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Not being allowed certain places ("alright can't go there. Can't apply there") only because I refuse to submit to those who wanna force everyone to take something even if they don't even need it is literally restricting freedom lol.
I don’t “need” a seat belt either but I wear one.
 

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I don’t “need” a seat belt either but I wear one
I know the long term side effects of wearing a seat belt (lol). I do not know (and neither does anyone else who isn't an insider) the long term side effects of getting injected with the "solution" to the problem they created.
 
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