The Importance of Money in Men's SMV

[BaronOfHair]

Because they would be chasing skirts instead of be interested in the art.

Goes to a conversation had over here https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...ans-world-real-or-parody.282324/#post-3120959

In the same way Wokeness has conned many gays into thinking they're entitled to act like this

and not be reviled by the rest of humanity, Red Pill Theology has scammed entirely too many men into believing that they too can go through life acting like teens broadcasting their "outcastness"(I.E. Scoffing at so-called bourgeois living I.E. Going to art galleries and pheasant hunting, in favor of acting like fools in public) to everyone in the vicinity, and not incur damage

So many men's insistence on remaining finacially destitute really seem to be yet another form of us trying to prolong our adolescence

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Red Pill Theology has scammed entirely too many men into believing that they too can go through life acting like teens

The art world is rife with fakers the real artists try to avoid, so either you have to be the real deal (or a master at faking it) to have any success.

 

[BaronOfHair]

The art world is rife with fakers the real artists try to avoid, so either you have to be the real deal (or a master at faking it) to have any success.

Not coincidentally, many of The Manosphere's most prominent preachers are folks who admit to having had artistic pretensions, and now come across as try-hard

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Not coincidentally, many of The Manosphere's most prominent preachers are folks who admit to having had artistic pretensions, and now come across as try-hard

A reflection of society on the whole.

 

[BaronOfHair]

A reflection of society on the whole.

Red Pill Theory has a fair amount in common with offender profiling https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th.../psychological-profile-behavioural-psychology https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ps...4/is-criminal-profiling-dead-should-it-be?amp , who's defenders also continually duck and dive with the phrase: "What we do is just as much art as it is empiricism"

It may.not be possible to conduct a metanalyis of Red Pill Theory in a vein similar to
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160252720301291?via=ihub , nonetheless we could all benefit from such a thing. 98% of both OI and TRP can likely be tossed out, with zero loss to humanity

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

98% of both OI and TRP can likely be tossed out, with zero loss to humanity

Well, every lie contains at least a little truth to make it more palatable to the people who have to swallow the deception.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Well, every lie contains at least a little truth to make it more palatable to the people who have to swallow the deception.

A few folks on YouTube labeling themselves Red Pill has allowed the sort societal detritus who, in the not too distant past, wouldn't have gotten beyond ham radio and local access TV to FEEL as if they're elites amongst us mere plebs they've been cursed to share this planet with

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

A few folks on YouTube labeling themselves Red Pill has allowed the sort societal detritus who, in the not too distant past, wouldn't have gotten beyond ham radio and local access TV to FEEL as if they're elites amongst us mere plebs they've been cursed to share this planet with

"I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me."

 

[SW15]

being bluepilled/beta does NOT mean a man won't get coochie. I do agree that it becomes harder for such a man because most women nowadays have had their fait share of "Bad boys" so the temptation is always lurking. And it takes ONE moment of weakness for her to destroy everything you've build.

Don't forget how sheltered a lotta women live life: work, family, visiting friends rinse and repeat. Occasionally a night out

Plenty of bluepilled/beta males are in relationships and have some mediocre sex life. The types of people profiled in this thread below are beta males in LTRs.

Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies

Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...

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Plenty of beta males get LTRs from their social circle and live an unremarkable partnered up life.

 

[BaronOfHair]

"I'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me."

I've yet to encounter a self-described Red Piller who's worldview isn't a mild variation of

 

[Jumbo Gumbo]

Make no mistake, money is #1.

I think it does matter a lot. Having loads of money is an aphrodisiac for women.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Plenty of beta males get LTRs from their social circle and live an unremarkable partnered up life.

Plenty of men are today in situations similar to Peter Gibbons and The Narrator in Fight Club career wise... Making just enough to get by, yet unsatisfied and desiring more. Advancing further requires that we bring our heretofore unconscious thoughts and beliefs into the light, test them for falsifiability, then adopt more functional ones

The same is true in the realm of dating and mating

 

[Salvation]

- Sure the attraction towards whiteboys in Philippines or Thailand is partly money, and partly positive racism towards whites (it's kinda special for these two countries, that's just what countless anecdotes say). Their 'stars' on tv just look kinda white, they have white skin fetish and so on

- looks money status: I would put looks clearly first (even if you are just the postman women will look and will have lust), status next (women go cracy for fame, either you have female fans or female fans give social proof and preselection)
Money is totally last, it itself is kinda invisible if you don't choose to show it, it's logical information, it's just a little cool information.
While looks activate the 'i wanna **** this guy', money activate more the 'i wanna trap this guy into a relationship'. Who wants that.

- I live basically in a small room, tiny 23 m2 apartment. Still basically all girls that entered that room ****ed me.

- Funnily enough one girl who knows i am a millionaire, cause he is in a talking group with me, we had something, and she answered upon a question that me being a millionaire was a factor and she implied that she is unhappy in her job and would love someone to finance her taking 3 months off work

- I think money is for:
Having lots of freetime instead of having to work, time for dating and sex

My plan is to spend money for:
A cool house with garden and pool and event-room where i do my seminars and also give hippi tantra seminars
Basically getting constant boatload of women into house because of yoga seminars and ****, me being the 'cool guy that owns the house' basically being a mini-celebrity in that environment, being the guy to know to be invited to this house, being nearly the only male there, basically have the best logistics of having bedroom just a few metres away, having a great place to invite first dates eg
But it should be a house easily reachable = in the city, which is tough and costs like 2mill in my city.. i would like to have 4mill before i do that

 

[Salvation]

I think it does matter a lot. Having loads of money is an aphrodisiac for women.

Like what is poor, normal and 'loads of money'?


I mean millionaire in a US-City is mostly just having a normal house and normal car isn't it..

Where are you in the global distribution of income?

Use our simulator to position your income relative to the income of others

wid.world

-> To be millionaire you have to be in top 5% wealth of US (top 1% in the world). And mayority of these rich people are in their 60ies, much much much less in their 30ies.
So this is already hard to achieve + still not impressive at all

Mansions go for 10 - 100 million usd, so i guess you have to have at least 15 million to have one of these. 15mill is top 0.1% in US.

 

[Jumbo Gumbo]

Cmon man, having a mansion is not going to repel ladies. But truthfully I do not have a mansion or fame and never really did.

Look at women’s totally lavish dating profiles. When women have all international vacationing photos and no photos of them locally, they’re looking for a guy who will fund their travels. Or when their photos show lavish expensive lifestyles. Or they are trying to hold on to their more youthful years of when rich men would take them on fancy trips around the globe before discarding them.

When a slim woman posts extravagant photos online displaying wealth and even in real life if they dress in luxurious fashions and attitudes. These babes are already fully aware of what types of men are found in their cities.

My biggest complaint with online dating are the international traveling weirdos. None of their photos say they are even in my city. They are generally on vacation 8,000 miles away.

 

[hellonwheels]

Women care about money. The difference is in how you make it that can turn her on. If you're a 9-5 guy, that's not sexy. If you're a hustler, that's sexy. That's why when Trump walks into a room, everyone reacts whether positively or negatively. Money works for him, not the other way around. Every girl from every walk of life loves the guy who isn't dependent on money to walk the world. He pursues what he wants and money happens to land into his hands one way or another. That is what decides your SMV. Most men cannot exhibit this behavior because it goes deeper than just being able to fake it.

This is spot on in that status is most important. People acting like money isn’t attractive to high quality women are off on that assessment.

Now if money is all you offer and it’s a boring career/lifestyle, then yeah, that’s mainly gonna get you a sugar baby that only sees you for that.

 

[p_1337]

To attract hot, young girls In 2024: looks and status trump money.

These types seem to prefer a guy with social media clout (celebrity / quasi-celebrity status) and/or is 6 ft+ with a ripped gym-bro physique -- versus the semi-unremarkable dude who makes 150-300k per year (even if it's coupled with other favorable attributes: great career, nice car, his own place, etc.)

The only way I could see money touching looks and status, is if you're clearly in the top echelon of earners (making roughly 400-500k per year or more, and have the commensurate lifestyle to match).

From what I've experienced, the only kinds of girls who seem to value men with money/stability are: those looking for a serious relationship (they're also generally 25+ years old) or sugar babies.

 

[TheGambino]

Women care about money. The difference is in how you make it that can turn her on. If you're a 9-5 guy, that's not sexy. If you're a hustler, that's sexy. That's why when Trump walks into a room, everyone reacts whether positively or negatively. Money works for him, not the other way around. Every girl from every walk of life loves the guy who isn't dependent on money to walk the world. He pursues what he wants and money happens to land into his hands one way or another. That is what decides your SMV. Most men cannot exhibit this behavior because it goes deeper than just being able to fake it.

Thaaats me.

 

[BaronOfHair]

To attract hot, young girls In 2024: looks and status trump money.

These types seem to prefer a guy with social media clout (celebrity / quasi-celebrity status) and/or is 6 ft+ with a ripped gym-bro physique -- versus the semi-unremarkable dude who makes 150-300k per year (even if it's coupled with other favorable attributes: great career, nice car, his own place, etc.)

The only way I could see money touching looks and status, is if you're clearly in the top echelon of earners (making roughly 400-500k per year or more, and have the commensurate lifestyle to match).

From what I've experienced, the only kinds of girls who seem to value men with money/stability are: those looking for a serious relationship (they're also generally 25+ years old) or sugar babies.

As we've mentioned elsewhere https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...-taught-you-so-far.282214/page-4#post-3122390 , a man can use cash to enhance his looks, in ways which are mostly nonsurgical. Another way to think of all this:

In 1996, Botswana's vice-president said of The Kahalri Bushmen: "How can you have a Stone Age creature continue to exist in the age of computers? If the Bushmen want to survive, they must change or otherwise like the dodo, they will perish." https://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/14/world/botswana-is-pressing-bushmen-to-leave-reserve.html

Men in Post-Industrial nations who are on the bottom rungs of the socioecomic ladder might as well be Stone Age creatures, in an era where private space travel and transhumanism

will soon be fixtures of daily life. Like The Bushmen, they also have to adapt or fade away.


Just as Botswana has been "coaxing" The Bushmen out of their primitive ways and into the larger society, the most we can do for men like this in The West is abolish most forms of state aid in favor of directing those who are ready to help themselves into steady work + provide vocational training so they can continue to move up the food chain

 

[Vanderdonck]

My take - you can do it without money, but it helps a lot. Forget her for a moment. If you know you can afford a great apartment with good logistics, a nice car or to pay for a taxi whenever you want, or to take her on a boat, get a nice table at a bar etc. etc. you will simply be more relaxed. When $100 feels like $1 you're not going to GAF if you burned some cash on a chick. It'll reflect in your game. However you'll be more stressed about potential gold diggers and hood rats.

That said I currently am making peanuts and attracting women like never before.