backbreaker
Master Don Juan
over / under on how many more posts we go before cord posts the pic of his asian GF
I say under 7.
(just kidding buddy.. kinda)
I say under 7.
(just kidding buddy.. kinda)
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There is no scale that would be universally agreed upon. Some of the 9s were 7s in my book. Some girls were underrated and others were overrated. At the end of the day, the HB rating scale is very subjective. This why it doesn't even make sense when Stagger says "a male 6 couldn't pickup a HB7 even with 100s of approaches." We wouldn't even be able to reach a strong consensus on whether or not a particular girl is a 7.zekko said:Back to your scale, yeah I didn't really agree with it, but it would be hard to post one that everybody universally agreed with. I thought the HB8s were probably the most accurate, although they just seemed to be a series of pictures of very young girls.
Really, the 4s and below are fairly irrelevant and all blend together into one undoable mess. I noticed under the 1s there was a picture of that poor woman who had a face implant.
This is where I disagree with you. I've known plenty of guys that were not particularly bad looking, very socially awkward, poorly dressed and certainly not bad hygiene that couldn't score a particularly looks matched girl regularly with a 100 approaches. Sure they didn't excel in all of those area but they were pretty much near average at least in most all of them.Lexington said:If a guy can't score a decent piece of tail despite 100s of approaches, he must be particularly bad looking, socially awkward, poorly dressed/groomed, have bad hygiene or some combination of those things.
Women will always be hypergamous, but the sexual market operates like any market. Just because people want something doesn't mean they can get it. I want a Lamborghini Aventador. I don't think I'll be getting one anytime soon.Stagger Lee said:Where we are disagree is in just how hypergamous women can afford to be when it comes to the cold approach pick up.
The problem here is that "attractiveness credit" cannot be objectively quantified. So yes, while there are some women I would consider 7s who you would rate as 3-4s, it's also possible that your 7s could be my 3-4s.I feel you give women more attractiveness credit than they deserve and take for granted that the man can easily be above average and successfully hustle.
Again one's standard of an average or good looking girl varies. I like my girls slim, toned and tanned with long legs. Some guys hate that look. One of my friends is into girls with big round asses and a lot of meat on them (yes, he's black). His 9 is my 6.Things like age, hair, introversion etc, can make things nigh impossible to get what should be considered an average girl.
What women rate as hot can vary tremendously. Some chicks are into dudes with sleeve tats and lots of piercings....they want a particular look. A clean cut guy wearing a nice blazer is going to have a tough time with these types. Some gals are into beef bus juicers. Big muscles turn some women off. Some prefer skinny jean wearing hipsters.Men, and even women, tend to underrate men and overrate women. Women vastly under rate men and as either hot or not. In their minds maybe 20% of men are attractive and the rest are cannon fodder.
Precisely. This is why any discussion of SMV (or whatever) is absolutely pointless. Everybody (men, women) has their own subjective values in what they want, and their own skill level.Lexington said:Women will always be hypergamous, but the sexual market operates like any market. Just because people want something doesn't mean they can get it. I want a Lamborghini Aventador. I don't think I'll be getting one anytime soon.
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The problem here is that "attractiveness credit" cannot be objectively quantified. So yes, while there are some women I would consider 7s who you would rate as 3-4s, it's also possible that your 7s could be my 3-4s.
There are certain things that all women are attracted to. But we have to remember that Alphas come in different flavors.
backbreaker said:over / under on how many more posts we go before cord posts the pic of his asian GF
I say under 7.
(just kidding buddy.. kinda)
Every girl gets 10-15 years of being hot and desirable. For guys, it's different. You are either attractive all your life or not. Welcome to my world, woman.
I concur. Although you can certainly argue for the window women have..samspade said:Backbreaker - much respect but I don't think this guy nailed anything except himself to a cross. If this statement were true, there'd be little point to Sosuave. Or civilization for that matter.
That's true. It surprises me how a girl can be drop dead gorgeous to me, and some other guy finds her repulsive. Maybe the true HB9s are those who appear to be extremely hot to the most people, to the large majority of men.Lexington said:There is no scale that would be universally agreed upon. Some of the 9s were 7s in my book. Some girls were underrated and others were overrated. At the end of the day, the HB rating scale is very subjective. This why it doesn't even make sense when Stagger says "a male 6 couldn't pickup a HB7 even with 100s of approaches." We wouldn't even be able to reach a strong consensus on whether or not a particular girl is a 7.
I don't think any other normal guy can find a girl,who you think is drop dead gorgeous, repulsive.zekko said:That's true. It surprises me how a girl can be drop dead gorgeous to me, and some other guy finds her repulsive. Maybe the true HB9s are those who appear to be extremely hot to the most people, to the large majority of men.
I think there may be a little something to this. But on the other hand, some guys are simply late bloomers. Or some let themselves go.Every girl gets 10-15 years of being hot and desirable. For guys, it's different. You are either attractive all your life or not. Welcome to my world, woman.
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