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Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
She thought she could have best of two worlds the man she always wanted and a man that would treat her right.

Actually, she has told me herself that her ex treated her better than me in many respects. I will say it again, I have not been the best boyfriend to her, mainly due to my selfish nature and knowing that in the end, I will be fine, I seem to just do what I want. I am not justifying myself being bad, I am simply admitting it. Every single girlfriend of mine will tell you that I am their nicest, AND their meanest boyfriend they have EVER had. Guess I can just genuinely be both depending the mood I am in.

I do agree, it is disrespect telling me she is was going to see her ex. And I told her it was. But then again, I still keep in contact with BOTH my last 2 exes as I said before. It is what it is, and for this reason, I think she wanted to try make me jealous also in a way, to see I do care for her still, considering, for the past while I had been giving her little attention.

Also, I honestly do beleive she still does have feelings for her ex, he was the first and only guy she ever loved before me. Same as I beleive I will always have some kind of feelings for the first girl I ever loved. Its human nature that not always the girl will ONLY EVER love you, you just gotta accept that. If she does however, remain loyal to you (sometimes she may stray, as this one almost did), but in the end, she is still next to me, still fukcing me and still buying me gifts every single time she sees something she thinks I may like. Other thing is this girl does not do it to impress me, she does it because she honestly enjoys doing it just to see me happy. My brother has had a similar girlfriend for the past 11 years, and has a great great relationship still. This girl is definately a keeper.

As far as me being in love with her as much as I think. I know I love this girl, I dont doubt that, I also respect her in so many ways. The love is not as intense as it was for the first girl I loved (but I dont beleive it is for many people at all), infact NONE of my friends have ever loved a girl as intense as their first love.

Thats just a few of my own insights.

Damn, this thread has provolked much more debate than I imagined, but it is definately an interesting thread. Good work boys and girls.
 

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Originally posted by Lost In Translation
the young women said with her own mouth she still FEELS that she belongs to her ex

Hang on, I said HE feels SHE still belongs to him. This is why the guy cant handle it when she has another boyfriend, and hence, why TWICE he has tried to take her back once she does.

Either way, the fact that HE broke up with her, does mean he will always hold something over her. And is why I told my friends I really hope he does one day confess his undying love for her. As he did........giving the power all back to me. Since she has sidelined him until the day I break up with her (assuming I will one day).

The girl has also told me (and not just told, but once again, it is obvious through her actions, as you guys always say actions speak louder than words, I can tell you personally her actions are far more than her words) that one day she hopes I will marry her. That is a big statement, considering I have only been with her for several months, but still shows her intentions in this relatinoship.

I also think that it is the fact that I still keep in contact with exes, that she can also. This is why I told her IF I see my exes, she can be there also, as they know about her anyways. Much the same as if she sees her ex, I must be present also.

Anyways, in a way, this just makes if more fun and interesting (for now, if I get burnt it wont be so fun, but I hardly see that happening).

As far as girls keeping male "friends" around, hahaha, yeah that means guys they will fall back upon once you two break up, most of the time. My ex had a guy who was "like her brother" in her words, low and behold, once I broke up with her, she was with him within 2 weeks. Its just the easiest way most girls see of getting over a relationship. Just the same reason why I keep my options open, UNTIL I am married (assuming that happens). It is double standards, considering I dont allow her hanging out with guy friends unless I am there or she has too because it is a group celebration.
 

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Originally posted by NewMan
Interesting since you wrote....




So it was OK for her to hang with her ex (who wants to fvck her) - but the guy who's not getting laid by his wife has to be a good little dog.

I really don't get this.

The minute things are not perfect with Clooney, the chick is talking about meeting her ex. This is not the workings of a quality woman. She knows the ex wants to fvck her, and she knows that her goino meet him will have an effect on Clooney. Shouldn't she be understanding and working on this relationship?

It's a BS move. The minute you have to explain this to a chick - is the minute you've got to 2nd guess the relationship. You don't want to be married with 2 kids - with all the pressure and have her tell you she's meeting her ex.

Fvck that.


This works both ways.
It does, and hence why I clarified with her that I must be present.

Remember when you reply guys, I still keep in contact with 2 exes.

And it wasnt the minute things were not perfect, he just happened to time it perfectly. There has been other times where things have not been perfect, and his head didnt pop up anywhere in the picture. Many other times.
 

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Originally posted by Lost In Translation
the young women said with her own mouth she still FEELS that she belongs to her ex



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Hang on, I said HE feels SHE still belongs to him. This is why the guy cant handle it when she has another boyfriend, and hence, why TWICE he has tried to take her back once she does.

Either way, the fact that HE broke up with her, does mean he will always hold something over her. And is why I told my friends I really hope he does one day confess his undying love for her. As he did........giving the power all back to me.


yeah i saw that i didn't clarify that she didn't actually say that. like you said she said HE said that. but i was just repeating whati had in one of the posts earlier in the thread

it was my interpretation of why she was saying this to you

and we both come to the same conclusion

CLOOENY
Either way, the fact that HE broke up with her, does mean he will always hold something over her.

i apologise for the confusion :)


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Yeah, just wanted to clear it up, as a few facts seem to have been lost/changed along the way of the thread.

Hey lost, I be up in your neck of the woods on the 29th/30th, not sure which one of November. Its a wednesday night, whichever that is. In Newcastle, then down to Sydney (a few boys from the gym are doing a road trip and Im going along). I think we trying to tee up a party with some local girls at our apartment, then head out and see what the castle has to offer. Your welcome to join if you want champ....
 

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Originally posted by TheTrimReaper


Since women work on a different system, there are a lot of needs which are fulfilled from living this way. And we guys know this. We are not comfortable when a woman has "friends". It's a major flag because we know that women get so much out of it. But if we call a woman on it, we are the jerks. This is such bullsh1t. It's totally passive aggressive because a woman can say "But honey, we are ONLY talking."

This might provide a better illustration. What if a man fulfills what he needs by "interacting" with ex girlfriends or coworkers. What I mean is he is f*cking them(because that's what we like to do). Well, he can't really tell his wife "But honey, I was only f*cking her!" and be off scott free. You see, the passive aggressive technique doesn't work here because his actions are obviously wrong to all of society, whereas talking to people isn't considered taboo.
Excellent, excellent post, this little eye opener in particular.

Also reinstates why I don't think its ok.

And Wyld, a lotta very good thoughts... good thread.
 

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Originally posted by TheTrimReaper


Since women work on a different system, there are a lot of needs which are fulfilled from living this way. And we guys know this. We are not comfortable when a woman has "friends". It's a major flag because we know that women get so much out of it. But if we call a woman on it, we are the jerks. This is such bullsh1t. It's totally passive aggressive because a woman can say "But honey, we are ONLY talking."

This might provide a better illustration. What if a man fulfills what he needs by "interacting" with ex girlfriends or coworkers. What I mean is he is f*cking them(because that's what we like to do). Well, he can't really tell his wife "But honey, I was only f*cking her!" and be off scott free. You see, the passive aggressive technique doesn't work here because his actions are obviously wrong to all of society, whereas talking to people isn't considered taboo.

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I like this as well.

It is interesting because I got an LJBF recently (a boyfriend apparently?) and I told her I wasnt interested in being "just friends". She shaid she doesnt understand why we cannot be plutonic friends.

In other words she wants part of the relationship without "giving it up" - Very one sided in my opinion.

I would love to see her reaction if I said how about we dont be friends and just f**K

Funny if I was to say this I would be called an a$$hole but her position is considered to be legit!

Guys are you getting me here!
 

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Guys...pay VERY close attention to how Clooney is acknowledging his own responsibility here. This is SO important for you all to learn. That's probably the number one most important thing for you to learn in order to be happy and healthy in relationships. He's not blaming his girlfriend entirely. He's admitting he wasn't doing the things he should be doing. Being able to do that is power, boys. It's the key to self control and inner security. He's behaving just as a man SHOULD. He's not laying his balls on the line showing too much emotion.

I have a 19 year old daughter who just broke up with her boyfriend a few days ago. She made the comment to me that in their relationship she feels like she was the man and the guy was the woman because he is emotional and she isn't. She's right. It turned her off. He was constantly accusing her of things she wasn't doing because he is insecure and needs constant reassurance. It became a burden to her.

You've GOT to keep the emotions in check, fellas. You can't show any insecurity because that changes your relationship from something nice to something burdensome for the girl.
 

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Originally posted by NewMan




So it was OK for her to hang with her ex (who wants to fvck her) - but the guy who's not getting laid by his wife has to be a good little dog.

You are trying to compare apples and oranges with the quote of mine you used. I said it's wrong for a father to punish his own child for his wife not wanting sex. You know...refusing to spend time with his kid and such.

And as I keep saying...no, it's not okay for her to hang out with her ex. I NEVER said it was okay. I said that Clooney had to look at what he was doing to contribute to the problem honestly. I'd tell a woman the same thing if she came on here and complained about being cheated on. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong in situations like this...and the only person anyone can control or change is themselves. The only PRODUCTIVE way to deal with problems that pop up is to look at your part of it and what you can to better in the future.
 

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wyld,

i need your advice.

theres this girl im seeing. i caught her the other day getting banged by three guys at once. i asked her what she was doing and she said "we were fixing u pthe bedroom and i fell on the bed and so did they and our clothes fell off. then these guys starting poking me. i didnt ask them to, they just started doing it. and you werent here to tell me not to, so i didnt stop them. don't worry honey, its not what i looks like though, i love you."

i was going to say "whatchou tak'en bout willis?" but then i remembered your advice - I'M TO BLAME FOR HER ACTIONS AND EMOTIONS.

so i said "sorry honey. ill let you get back to painting."

i think its going to work wyld. i think im going to be able to keep this diamond in the rough because i showed her that im not jealous.

im a man, a real man.

i did good right:?
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Originally posted by joekerr31
wyld,

i need your advice.

theres this girl im seeing. i caught her the other day getting banged by three guys at once. i asked her what she was doing and she said "we were fixing u pthe bedroom and i fell on the bed and so did they and our clothes fell off. then these guys starting poking me. i didnt ask them to, they just started doing it. and you werent here to tell me not to, so i didnt stop them. don't worry honey, its not what i looks like though, i love you."

i was going to say "whatchou tak'en bout willis?" but then i remembered your advice - I'M TO BLAME FOR HER ACTIONS AND EMOTIONS.

so i said "sorry honey. ill let you get back to painting."

i think its going to work wyld. i think im going to be able to keep this diamond in the rough because i showed her that im not jealous.

im a man, a real man.

i did good right:?
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There's no help for you to be quite blunt. Your attitude sucks. As a result, you WILL be cheated on and you WILL get dumped.

Clooney's girlfriend didn't cheat on him. You're acting immature in making the posts that you are.
That is all...
 

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lighten up wyld.
damn, you always this serious in real life.

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Originally posted by joekerr31
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lighten up wyld.
damn, you always this serious in real life.

J
I have a great sense of humor. You're just not funny.

For some reason you seem to be under the impression that showing your ass in my direction repeatedly for the last few days will either impress me or the other guys here. I'm not impressed at all. In fact, if anything, I find that annoying and lame. I'm not here looking for dates or a man. If it's the other guys you're trying to impress with your contrived "C & F" I can't help but ask why. I mean...what's the point of that unless you are trying to seduce the men on here?
 

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Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
There is NO justification for cheating.

You don’t like they way things go leave.

Be the bigger man and end it.

Clooney although your girl didn’t cheat she thought about it.

And still does.

The fact that she still wants to meet up with him with you is still down right literally in your face disrespectful whether you meet him or not.

Whether you dump that ho or not is up to you but I hope you learn from this experience and hope things go well with you in the future.

But I have a feeling you will be back on this board with another major issue with this b1tch.
You know...Clooney doesn't seem to consider his girlfriend to be a biotch...so why are you calling her one? You don't know her. Clooney has resolved the issue to his satisfaction. It's his relationship, not yours. So why do you keep trying to convince him to dump her? Could it perhaps be because you can't maintain a LTR and hence don't want anyone else to try?

If you keep on with this negative mind set your chosen moniker will suit you quite well...you will always be a "One Arm" (or hand) DJ.
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
I have a great sense of humor. You're just not funny.

For some reason you seem to be under the impression that showing your ass in my direction repeatedly for the last few days will either impress me or the other guys here. I'm not impressed at all. In fact, if anything, I find that annoying and lame. I'm not here looking for dates or a man. If it's the other guys you're trying to impress with your contrived "C & F" I can't help but ask why. I mean...what's the point of that unless you are trying to seduce the men on here?
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you are killing me.

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The fact that she still wants to meet up with him with you is still down right literally in your face disrespectful whether you meet him or not.

interesting :up:


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Originally posted by OneArmDeeJay
There is NO justification for cheating.

You don’t like they way things go leave.

Be the bigger man and end it.

Clooney although your girl didn’t cheat she thought about it.

And still does.

The fact that she still wants to meet up with him with you is still down right literally in your face disrespectful whether you meet him or not.

Whether you dump that ho or not is up to you but I hope you learn from this experience and hope things go well with you in the future.

But I have a feeling you will be back on this board with another major issue with this b1tch.
Thanks man.

Did she think about cheating? OF COURSE SHE DID. Have you EVER been in a relationship and NOT thought about cheating? I highly doubt that, infact I think it is impossible!

I must admit, I think about it all the time, doesnt mean I do it to her (although I have done it to plenty of exes in the past sadly).

She did not want to meet up with him with me present, she only did this because I told her to send him that message so she could see for herself that his intentions are not just to be "friends", because if they were, he would have no problem meeting whilst I am present.
 

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^^^^^

At very first, she infact said, "you dont want me to meet up with him? Ok, no problem, I wont meet up with him". As explained before, the message about me being present was my idea to show her his intentions.
 

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Well guys, just for a bit of interest, I told her if she does think ANYTHING is still there between them, that she should consider our relationship seriously, because if there is something then she knows what to do. If there is not, then to shut him down harshly once and for all and tell the dude to stop disrespecting me by harassing her.

This was her exact reply:

"He does hold a special place with me. But not as a lover, I do sincerely hope I can have him in my life only as a friend. Thats what I hold onto with him, I want the friendship. I want the passion with you, I want to be with you when things are good and bad, I want to be a part of your life and I want you in mine. I am more happy with you than you can ever imagine. I love you very much, I even love the things that annoy me cos thats who you are. There is only one guy I want to fall asleep next to and wake up next to. Its the nicest thing to fall asleep and wake up to".

Ha ha, a bit sappy, and I dont like the part about "friendship", but oh well, it is what it is and I am confident that this guy will soon be gone once and for all once I stamp the foot down if he pops his head up again.
 

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the thoughts and prayers of a sosuave nation are with you clooney

in your moment of testing :)

clooney
"He does hold a special place with me. But not as a lover, I do sincerely hope I can have him in my life only as a friend. Thats what I hold onto with him, I want the friendship.

that must hurt you that the *crossed out b****

must hurt you that this young lady is still rebelling against your authority

so we can cross off from the list that this *must write* young lady was only seeing him to make you jealous

this ........ young lady actually is catching feelings for the toadstool

light a fire under your backup chick you may need her

get 3 more while you are thinking about it lol

i am trying to figure out her cryptic message

i speak alittle ******** but this one is tricky

the sincerely hope instead of just hope is tricky

i think it means "i have always done what you wanted i want to cash my chips in now and the one favour i ask is to allow me access to my ex so he can TRY and f*ck me. and if my strained sincerely doesn't get the point across we are 5 seconds away from a huge fight over this"

clooney you are headed for a showdown

a wild wild west showdown

now lets look at the other thing i see in her message

the facts :

she survived all this precious time without her friend that she needs to hold onto because the friendship is so special

so we know she is full of $hit

she didn't care about holding onto this special friendship that she can't live without 2 months ago

so we know she is full of $hit

clooeny
I love you very much, I even love the things that annoy me cos thats who you are.

wtf is up with that lol ?

in all my years of pimpin' i never had a chick tell me that and that she loves me in the same breath

she is using her brain too much

she is thinking too much

like i said from the start she has a plan


how old is she and has she talked about marriage ?

have you told her you don't plan to get married or plan to get married for xxxxx years ?

this could also be a factor


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