The girlfriends ex

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As a woman who has been around long enough to have the same thing happening to this woman happen to me plenty of times I'm telling you all he can NOT act jealous or controlling. That kind of behavior reeks of insecurity. An insecure man is NOT attractive or appealing. You guys should ALL know this by now, but apparently you can keep things consistent.

The quickest way for him to be dumped is to act insecure and jealous. Would you guys like him to simply tattoo "AFC" to his forehead?

Pay attention to the likely effects your advice will have if it is taken. There aren't enough people here who take the time to think before firing off something in an emotional way. He needs to act like a SECURE, CONFIDENT MAN not a pathetic simpering insecure wus.
 

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a SECURE CONFIDENT man knows that he can GET a GOOD woman any time he wants and doesn't let some ho kick him in the balls. and when she does, he calls her on it and says "when you know what you want get back to me. i KNOW what i want, and right now, because of your behavior, you aren't it."

but yes, if he wants to be an AFC slave to this woman he should act like he's got no problem with her going to meet some guy who has told her that he wants her back and he loves her (and as implied, would like to f*ck every little orifice in her body).

wyldfire, you're smoking crack today. i swear to god you are smoking crack.

J
 

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Typical...

The woman is the PRIZE here right?
Wrong. That's why as men, we
recognize that this flighty girl isn't worthy
of being his partner, demonstrated by her desire to go back to the ex to see whats up.

This is not a competition to see which "MAN" gets to save the damsel in distress.
We don't play that game around here. We are advising an immediate premptive next
of the bad actor. He has his hooks in the Wrong girl and he is being notified of that in this thread.

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Again...it's okay for him to not want her to see her ex. What I am saying is that he CANNOT let her know that he feels threatened by the ex. If he shows any insecurity at all he is essentially admitting to her that he is NOT "the prize".

You guys have A LOT to learn...

I showed him a simple way to retain his pride, avoid looking jealous or insecure, come off as calm, confident and strong while still nipping this ex problem in the bud.

Furthermore...the fact that this woman is able to still love an ex is a good sign that she will love Clooney as long as he stays with her. With how many women just use men and don't give a rat's ass about their boyfriends or husbands you guys are dead wrong in saying that she's not worth his time.

It's such a shame how lost this site has become...
 

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wildfire, i think your personal experience are totally biasing your judgement in all this.

you said in an early post that you had a similar situation. fine, thats how YOU thought, felt and behaved. it doesnt make it right.

when you love someone you DON"T pull this kind of crap, male or female.

and let me explain, once and for all, for the sake of this thread, why there is so much bickering and arguing going on.

SHE has created a sitaution in which HE CANNOT win. if he lets her go see him thats AFC. If he forbids her thats AFC. either way she kicks him in the balls and asserts herself as the PRIZE.

the ONLY option he has, in my opinion, is to call her on her immature behavior and take a break. the break is critical, because it lets her know that when you cross the line, as she has done here, that she's going to lose you.

i completely disagree with your advice wildfire, i don't think that will prevent AFC status what so ever.

I can just see her meeting with this guy, and two weeks later dumping her bf and saying "listen, i TOLD you that he loved me and you let me go see him anyway. don't blame me, you obviously don't care about me as much as you say or you wouldn't have let me go. I even told you I wouldn't go but you let me go anyway".

her actions have created a lose lose no matter what he does. the ONLY option he has is to call her on her behavior and walk away, only staying IF she recognize what a dumb and idiotic thing she did.

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Apparently you missed the part where Clooney admitted that he was slacking off on doing his part to maintain the relationship.

He wasn't giving her what she needed from him and she still loves the ex while also loving Clooney. Her reaction is pretty normal and even a woman who is deeply in love with a man will get discouraged if they aren't feeling loved in return. Based on what Clooney has said, that's what happened here. He was slacking off and the ex contacted her and told her he wants her back. It sounds like she wants Clooney and felt torn between him and the ex because she's not so sure Clooney wants her as much as she wants him. And there's the ex who is making it clear to her that he does want her.

If your girlfriend stopped having sex with you and one of your exes told you she wanted to have sex with you are you saying you wouldn't feel torn or tempted at all?
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
Furthermore...the fact that this woman is able to still love an ex is a good sign that she will love Clooney as long as he stays with her.
No its not. Just because a girl can fall in love with one guy does not mean:

A) that she will be a good girlfriend to another guy.

b) that she will not cheat on you with other guys. If guys didn't put their foot down, girls would have been keeping in touch with their exe's from the time they lost their virginity.

A girl's character, morals and beliefs come into play in this sort of decision whether she cheats or not. By deciding to put herself in this situation its either because she is really good/smart (telling the ex its over for good) or really bad/dumb (hope something will happen/ or thinking being platonic with the ex will work out).
 

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Originally posted by Wyldfire


If your girlfriend stopped having sex with you and one of your exes told you she wanted to have sex with you are you saying you wouldn't feel torn or tempted at all?

damn straight i wouldn't. if my girlfriend stopped having sex with me id say "babe, something is wrong here and we need to talk about it."

if she refused to talk about it, i'd say "ok. well im not really sure at this point where your interest and focus lies, so i think we need to take a break. when you've figured out exactly what it is you want, give me a ring and we'll discuss things"

THEN i'd go bang the ex if i felt so inclined.

i wouldn't play the two off each other wondering "which one will spread her legs for me first".

damn wyld, im serious, are you smoking crack today?

J
 

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Okay...you two simply don't appear to be actually reading and comprehending what I've written. So, I'm not going to waste anymore time trying to explain such basic, common sense concepts to you. Clooney understands exactly what I was saying and knows my advice fits the bill. That's what's important here. My time is too valuable to waste on people who just don't get it.
 

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wyldfire, are you on the rag this week?
that would explain a lot.


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SOME TOUGH LOVE :

first i agree 110% with everything OneArmDeeJay has posted

so i am gunna try and skip the stuff he said because its what i was thinking when reading your post

second let us examine the words of a guru

Quote: Player_Supreme
“ Your woman in my opinion shouldn't be talking to an ex. It's ok to have men friends but friends whom she used to suck their dycks is not in my picture. “

this is something all Don Juans should know off by heart

woman talks to ex = relationship is in serious trouble

also the woman is disrespecting you and you should not stand for this

now lets examine some more wisdom

" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation

now this goes against what 90% of the forum preach

don't say anything if you do it makes you look insecure

no no NO NO NO NO !!!!!!

if you sit there and say nothing

YOU LOOK LIKE A B*TCH

hey i am busting moves on your woman and you sit there all quiet

YOU MAKE IT EASIER FOR HER TO CHEAT !

she doesn't have to hide or be sneaky or nothing

alright it's hammer time

BREAK IT DOWN :woo:

Quote : CLOONEY
Anyways, just recently, he has been ringing my girlfriend, telling her all his mistakes, that he loves her, always has and that he realises he treated her badly and wants her back. Says that he always felt like she was his and now he is ready to not take her for granted and have a good relationship with her.

she is taking his calls

my woman would be AFRAID to take a damn call from an ex

afraid i would dump her

yes to all you AFC/feminist types i keep my women on a SHORT LEASH but they love me for it and the benefit from being WITH A REAL MAN

Quote : CLOONEY
So she tells me, yeah she thinks she could have a good relationship with him now he has grown up and would probably be happy with him.

damn CLOONEY you must be one easy to talk to dude

none of my girlfriends would DARE say something so f*cking stupid to me

ok apart from this b*tch coming of as having ball$ as big as texas i think it's a SH*T TEST

will CLOONEY let me diss him like that ? is there room for me to go and have a fling and get back what was **stolen when my ex dumped me ?

**NOTE**stolen

b*tches are mental and for whatever reason nothing drives them more insane than being dumped

it rips at the fabric of their little reality

they are perfect and all men are lucky to be in their precense

then a man dumps them

the sun darkens and the stars fall from the sky

the b*tches brain goes into overload trying to figure out WHY they are not perfect

and they plot revenge..... murder bloodshed....

this can afffect a womans mind for the rest of her life

so we must understand that a LARGE PART of her wanting to get back with her ex

for good CLOONEY

or just so she can dump him

is to get back that little part of her brain that has short circuited

so realise CLOONEY he is not better than you

he just has a piece of her no woman can resist

Quote : DJDamage
Being REJECTED is almost like an aphrodisiac for those types of women. They want someone which they cannot have or cannot control.

this is summed up the root of your problem CLOONEY

great posts DJDamage :)

Quote : CLOONEY
Says that he always felt like she was his and now he is ready to not take her for granted and have a good relationship with her

now you didn't hear him say it. she is telling you the phone convo.

"always felt like she was his"

maybe i am reading too much into that but i think she is saying "she has always felt like she was his"

Quote : CLOONEY
Just the other night he messaged her, they talked and now she is meeting up with him for coffee "just to catch up".

IMPORTANT : did this woman ASK FOR YOUR PERMISSION ?

did she ask if it would be ok ?

she don't even care what you think ?

that h0 has a PLAN

and coffee is code for sex

he knows this and she knows this

she knows this and she still goes ?

Quote : CLOONEY
However, my friends say this is a big deal, if she didnt feel anything for him, she wouldnt want to meet up with him, especially considering she knows he still loves her and is going to try and pull all the moves he can to get her back...........

you got smart friends

Johnnie5
so in the end if she has a strong enough emotional connection then there isnt a lot you can do about it

he is right it sounds like your ship is sunk

dump her and go out with chick B who sounds good

UPGRADE :D

"i don't chase em i replace em"

Quote : CLOONEY
but either way, that is why I do not care too much, whatever happens happens and I will be fine anyways.

i don't understand that attitude enlighten me :)

your woman coming home and giving you a big wet kiss with her exs c*m still in her teeth don't bother you ?

Quote : CLOONEY
Not to mention, she is still pushing me to go away overseas with her for a couple of months in a few weeks for a holiday! Definately not something she would be trying to plan if she was planning on fukcing her ex.

:eek:

planning ? maybe she plans on saying no

till she has one glass of wine and he says he just wants to give her a shoulder massage and she gets too turned on

but she won't feel guilty she will just blame the wine

LET ME SCHOOL YOU ON CHEATING B*TCHES

they are my specialty

i am the "other guy" the one who seduces them

no i am lying i don't seduce them they come to me and i f*ck them

maybe i buy them a chesseburger afterwards at McDonalds then i drop them off

now most people on the forum are the "boyfiend" fighting off the "other guys"

so i bring a unique perspective

i got 3 chicks at the moment text messaging me wanting to "hang out"

now as i am a pimp in my game that is code word for sex

i operate on the lower levels here so there is no coffee

now i got this one chick i haven't seen here in 1 year

she texts me from her boyfriends house

i ask her who her boyfriend is because i am curious if it is the same guy as before

she has a new boyfriend WHO SHE LIVES WITH

if you have seen the movie " Once Were Warriors " her boyfriend = Jake The Muss

now her boyfriend probably f*cks her till she turns blue

he provides for her

why does she want to f*ck me ?

is my d*ck bigger than his ? i doubt it

i don't spend any time with her she doesn't know where i live and we have nothing in common

i f*ck her in the back of my car then drop her off ( she always says no to cheeseburger at McDonalds drive-thru )

so why does she want me ?

Quote : CLOONEY
I could be wrong, I am not defending her, just stating some logical of my own.

my story above shows there is NO LOGIC with women

only emotion

i must make that chick FEEL something different

Quote : CLOONEY
I do love her, one of the only 2 I have in my life

then you must care

and your must protect your heart

my advice : TAKE CHARGE

call the shots. act. don't re-act.

lay down the law to this dizzy b*tch and set her straight

CLOONEY's way or the highway b*tch

pimp style

women respect that and YOU have self respect

YOU make a decision to dump her if she doesn't get in line

DUMP her and hook up with your other chick who sounds like she has CLOONEY written all over her

as always

i wish you the best success


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" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation

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“Many girls merely upgrade their boyfriends and never become single “

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“ the 'pimp' mentality works today because you are living in a time such that there are an overabundance if hors - this is the Pimps playground!! Pimps and hors go together like bread and butter - they are complementary natures!!! Pimps need hors like hors need pimps!! “

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“ You NEVER pay as a supplicative or bargaining measure, though. The reward that she gets for her affection is YOUR affection. The reward she gets for her sex is YOUR sex. The second you start buying her stuff to keep her around, keep her entertained in your presence, etc...you're compensating for not having what it takes to seduce the woman, and that's totally unacceptable. “

Quote: maddman75
“ I am the prize. I like what I see so far, so I'll give her an opportunity to show me that she's worth my time and effort. If she rejects me, she's a fool. I'll just go find the next lucky chick and let her have what this chick is throwing away. “

Quote: Player_Supreme
“ Your woman in my opinion shouldn't be talking to an ex. It's ok to have men friends but friends whom she used to suck their dycks is not in my picture. “

The DJ Code :

1. his pleasure comes first
2. he will quickly dump a woman who gives him trouble
3. doesn’t suck up to women or put them on pedestals
4. doesn’t let women or people disrespect him.
5. Gets pissed off and isn’t afraid to show it
6. Aren’t afraid to hurt women emotionally.
7. Doesn’t care what others think about him and isn’t looking for approval.
 

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Fukc, damn, I didnt expect to get so many replies.

As far as the guys saying she does not love me? This maybe only a one sided relationship, you can say what you want but its blatantly obvious if its one sided, its me doing all the taking, sadly.

She is a giver, I am a taker. She does everything for me, and I do, well, not much for her. Just our personalities I guess, all my mates have seen how many times she has cried over me (yes, unfortunately sometimes I am rude when I am drunk, that is, when I used to drink).

It is not a matter of her loving me, it is a matter of her not sure if I want her or not (like most woman, she needs a lot of validation), the ex calls, and gives her what she is missing.

As far as me being insecure over him, that is no way true. This guy sadly is short, chubby, and not the most eye pleasing. Further, not many people like him because he is an annoying (thinks he knows everything). Only thing I am concerned about is that no matter what he looks like etc, he held something over her for a long long time. Something he doesnt hold over her anymore because she fell in love again. Although of course, naturally, there is still something there.

As far as me being just as bad as her, yes I am. I should not have this other girl around, but hey, I am looking out for #1. I have seen girls eat up mates and spit them out, I have been around the game long enough to know its good to leave your options open, as long as you dont touch them, until your single. Either way, its still wrong what Im doing, but hey, Im doing it and life goes on. And as far as "being tough", I am not trying to bullsh*t with my carefree attitude, I honestly dont care too much at the moment, but like I said, I know once it happens it will probably be a different story. Either way though, life goes on. I have dealt with a breakup with a girl I love before, and I can do it again. If anything though, I loved the other one deeper, so it would have been harder to get over than this one.

Not sure what else I have missed, as I have a killer headache from a long days work. But either way, I can only play the waiting game now and see if she sees him or not. If she does though, she is heading for the door instantly!

Funny how I came on here not worrying too much if she sees him or not, and now I have told her she cant see him. Either way, I have put the foot down, and either way she knows I mean it because I have already put the foot down on many other issues (male guy friends, smoking, drunking etc) and she has stopped every single one.
 

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Well, its all unfolding now. I told her just then he only wants to meet up for one thing, to get you back, he already admitted it a while back.

He sent her a message today apparently, saying he only wants to meet up as friends, and he has met someone else anyways. (his trying anyway he can to get her to meet up so he can put down his moves).

My girlfriend just sent him a message saying we should all meet up, him, me, and the two girls and see if we can all get along. Should be interesting to see his reaction, hahaha. Plus will be funny and kinda interesting in a weird way to meet up and talk to this guy.
 

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ROUND 2 :

well i guess i am stuck in the rut of replying to AFC posts about dubious girlfriends

so i may need to re-calibrate the pimp rifle for this special mission

Quote : CLOONEY
As far as me being just as bad as her, yes I am

this is sosuave a mens webiste

we are a band of brothers

i don't judge you CLOONEY

i think it is WISE to have another chick to make sure you don't catch oneitis

Quote : CLOONEY
I should not have this other girl around, but hey, I am looking out for #1. I have seen girls eat up mates and spit them out, I have been around the game long enough to know its good to leave your options open, as long as you dont touch them, until your single.

CLOONEY i appreciate your honesty

i would do / have done the exact same thing

Quote : CLOONEY
But either way, I can only play the waiting game now and see if she sees him or not. If she does though, she is heading for the door instantly!

how rare to see someone act like a man on these forums

" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation

Quote : CLOONEY
Funny how I came on here not worrying too much if she sees him or not, and now I have told her she cant see him.

maybe it is all good

Quote : CLOONEY
she knows I mean it because I have already put the foot down on many other issues (male guy friends, smoking, drunking etc) and she has stopped every single one.

sounds like she is a well behaved yong lady

see i am used to dealing with crack h0es

and most of the posts on the forum are about problem women who qualify as wh0res / cheating b*tches

i think i may have been wrong about her CLOONEY

women are like little kids

they like to test the boundaries to see if you will tell them off

you said she has changed for the better under your supervision in the past

maybe she is just doing this for attention ?

maybe she is just trying to see if you act like a man and tell her "hell no b*tch you see him and you out the door"

mabe she is just reinforcing what she already knows

she is with the man she loves


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" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation
 

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his relpy:

"i dont want 2 meet him i c it ended badly not sure wat positive purpose it will serve. im still here if u need me".

He aint want to meet me, hahaha, no wonder why. My girlfriend says she sees my point and knows now he only wanted one thing.
 

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Yeah lost, thanks mate.

I do see your point though, so many other guys winigng about hos on this site, it sometimes gets hard to see the genuine girls.

As I said, I have dated probably tripple most guys on this site have, and have only found 2 I find worthy of my time. The woman I have dated would be near the 3 digits mark.

Anyways, the ex knows his place now and my girlfriend sees his intentions (hence why he doesnt want to meet her while I am present).

Cheers guys, problem solved. (for now). Sure its only a matter of time until the next problem, relationships are, afterall, hard work!
 

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insecure

yeah i just hope the AFCs that run rampant with their

"you don't own her you can't tell her what to do"

"she can see her ex if she wants you're not her boss"

"if you speak up you will look insecure"

"do nothing pretend you don't notice let her go"

"she is like a butterfly let her go and if she comes back she is yours but if she doesn't then it wasn't meant to be"

i hope those FOOLS see that by TAKING CHARGE

CALLING HIS WOMAN ON HER BULL$HIT

PUTTING HIS FOOT DOWN

CLOONEY averted disaster and his woman probably loves her big strong SMART CLOONEY now more than before lol

not only did he kick her into line but he put FEAR into her ex

she saw all this her eyes brimming with pride

a bad situation is turned around an adds 300 points to CLOONEYS Alpha male status with his woman

meanwhile her ex looks like a punk b*tch


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Originally posted by CLOONEY
his relpy:

"i dont want 2 meet him i c it ended badly not sure wat positive purpose it will serve. im still here if u need me".

He aint want to meet me, hahaha, no wonder why. My girlfriend says she sees my point and knows now he only wanted one thing.
Clooney...did you do what I advised you to and tell her what he's playing at?

I gave the suggestion I did because I knew it would keep her from seeing him while also allowing you to turn the tables on him. In a situation like this a man cannot show any weakness or insecurity at all or it will bite him square in the ass. At the same time, you need to make it clear that you don't think she should see the ex without doing it in a way that makes you look like a wus. The only way to really do that is to lead the woman into deciding for herself not to see the guy. The method I suggested is a very effective way of doing that.

Glad it worked out for you.

With that being said...throw the woman a bone once in awhile and you won't have issues like this pop up. She needs to feel like your relationship is progressing and growing. It doesn't sound like you're providing for that need. She sounds like good LTR material and you really should value that and treat her a bit better. As long as you don't turn into a simpering lap dog who becomes all needy you can get away with showing more affection and attention.
 

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Yeah, she sees now that he only wanted one thing with her, and that was to hook back up with her at all costs.

I told her to tell him that boat already left the dock, and he aint on it.

I also told her to see his intentions and if he truly just wanted to be friends, he would not mind if I was there also.

Hence, why he didnt want to meet up if I was gonna be there. She said it is clear his intentions now and that she will not meet up with him. No doubt he will try again within a few weeks, its just now time to see if her actions speak louder than her words. Afterall, words are cheap!
 

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