The girlfriends ex

[Don Legend]

Wyldfire i would give you credit for a very well played game. I've had this subject on my mind for a while and reading your posts has been insightful. It is really easy to get insecure and make a mess of these things and come of in a bad way. Credit to Clooney for thinking constructively and keeping his cool.
I expect Clooney's lack of attention etc probably aided in her accepting her ex's advances, but lets be honest, plenty of women have pulled this **** even when the man is being a good partner! I think she would have doen exactly the same even if clooney was being a better boyfriend.
As it goes for the situation i think its a pretty **** thing to put onto your partner, which is a question as to why do it? The only person who benefited from the situation was the girl, for attention or having two blokes fight over her etc.
The situation may well have been sorted for now, but what happens if the ex keeps on contacting her or trying to meet up with her or any other bloke for that matter? Clooney cant alway be there to hold her hand and say 'only if i come with you honey'.
What happens when the relationship hits another rough spot or Clooney becomes insecure/downbeat for one reason or another? Is it ok for her to say 'well there''s problems in my relationship so its ok for me to entertain other guys?'
You are right in that she hasn't done anything wrong in this instance (she hasn't met up with him) but she still came very close to doing it at the expense of putting Clooney in an awkward position for her benefit, which is why so many guys are saying next cus that can be seen as selfish.
Im not looking to flame you or anything, just interested in you response. I admit i got burnt pretty bad from this, different situation, and some of my decision making was because i was a little insecure at the time. Clooney i hope it all works out in any case.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by CLOONEY
Well guys, just for a bit of interest, I told her if she does think ANYTHING is still there between them, that she should consider our relationship seriously, because if there is something then she knows what to do. If there is not, then to shut him down harshly once and for all and tell the dude to stop disrespecting me by harassing her.

This was her exact reply:

"He does hold a special place with me. But not as a lover, I do sincerely hope I can have him in my life only as a friend. Thats what I hold onto with him, I want the friendship. I want the passion with you, I want to be with you when things are good and bad, I want to be a part of your life and I want you in mine. I am more happy with you than you can ever imagine. I love you very much, I even love the things that annoy me cos thats who you are. There is only one guy I want to fall asleep next to and wake up next to. Its the nicest thing to fall asleep and wake up to".

Ha ha, a bit sappy, and I dont like the part about "friendship", but oh well, it is what it is and I am confident that this guy will soon be gone once and for all once I stamp the foot down if he pops his head up again.

Clooney...you have to try to remember that women ARE able to be just friends with a guy without wanting more. We're not as sexually geared as men are. I have a couple of ex's that I have wondered if they are okay when I've heard they have had something happen to them. I don't love either one of them and even though I'm not in a relationship now...I wouldn't get back with either of them or do anything with them.

You shouldn't be too concerned about her wishing they could be friends...as long as she isn't seeing him unless YOU are with her.

The problem with this situation isn't that your girlfriend wishes they could be friends. The problem is that her ex wants to interfere in her relationship and get her back. Just explain to her that since HIS intentions aren't just to be friends that she's not going to be able to be friends with him because they aren't on the same page. He wants more, she doesn't and all she'll be doing by trying to be his friend is leading him on and inviting him to interfere in her relationship with you. As long as you make sure she understands what his ploys mean in a calm, secure way you'll be just fine.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Don Legend
Wyldfire i would give you credit for a very well played game. I've had this subject on my mind for a while and reading your posts has been insightful. It is really easy to get insecure and make a mess of these things and come of in a bad way. Credit to Clooney for thinking constructively and keeping his cool.
I expect Clooney's lack of attention etc probably aided in her accepting her ex's advances, but lets be honest, plenty of women have pulled this **** even when the man is being a good partner! I think she would have doen exactly the same even if clooney was being a better boyfriend.
As it goes for the situation i think its a pretty **** thing to put onto your partner, which is a question as to why do it? The only person who benefited from the situation was the girl, for attention or having two blokes fight over her etc.
The situation may well have been sorted for now, but what happens if the ex keeps on contacting her or trying to meet up with her or any other bloke for that matter? Clooney cant alway be there to hold her hand and say 'only if i come with you honey'.
What happens when the relationship hits another rough spot or Clooney becomes insecure/downbeat for one reason or another? Is it ok for her to say 'well there''s problems in my relationship so its ok for me to entertain other guys?'
You are right in that she hasn't done anything wrong in this instance (she hasn't met up with him) but she still came very close to doing it at the expense of putting Clooney in an awkward position for her benefit, which is why so many guys are saying next cus that can be seen as selfish.
Im not looking to flame you or anything, just interested in you response. I admit i got burnt pretty bad from this, different situation, and some of my decision making was because i was a little insecure at the time. Clooney i hope it all works out in any case.

Clooney has boosted his value by the way he reacted to this situation. Because he didn't get all insecure she knows that she doesn't have him by the balls. It's unlikely she'll even think about seeing the ex after this. Because Clooney won this little battle the ex set up...it is the ex that is going to be insecure and look weak to his ex. He will lose some of his appeal on hold on her over this.

I don't think she will ask or try to see this guy again. If she does then he would be justified in dumping her.

 

[Lost In Translation]

Quote : Wyldfire
Just explain to her that since HIS intentions aren't just to be friends that she's not going to be able to be friends with him because they aren't on the same page.

that is spot on

Quote : Wyldfire
women ARE able to be just friends with a guy without wanting more. We're not as sexually geared as men are. I have a couple of ex's that I have wondered if they are okay when I've heard they have had something happen to them. I don't love either one of them and even though I'm not in a relationship now...I wouldn't get back with either of them or do anything with them.

that is you. you are able to act honourably. you are older and have been to hell and back. you no longer have a bone skeleton it has been replaced with Adamantium like Wolverine in X-Men.

clooneys chick is another generation. maybe she is not as strong as you Wyldfire...

Quote : Wyldfire
As long as you make sure she understands what his ploys mean in a calm, secure way you'll be just fine.

we are playing best case scenario. which is cool.

but the other thing is maybe she is not ignorant of what is really going on ?

maybe she knows ?

if so what does that mean ?

personally i think she has a plan and is looking at both men to see who will cross the finish line with her ( marriage )

clooney being a don juan worries her so she needs a backup plan

but she has to get close. close enough to fan the flames to keep her ex online as a plan B.

Quote : Wyldfire
It's unlikely she'll even think about seeing the ex after this.

maybe you missed the new message she sent clooney on page 5

what is your take on the ******** in the message ?

Quote : Wyldfire
Because Clooney won this little battle the ex set up...it is the ex that is going to be insecure and look weak to his ex.

new evidence is starting me to wonder if the ex is really behind all this

Quote : Wyldfire
He will lose some of his appeal on hold on her over this.

her ex is a loser. her wanting to be friends with him is not based on his actions or status.

clooney acting like more of a man and having more status doesn't seem to count.

this can mean only one thing.

her interaction with her ex are not based on the laws of attraction

there is something else going on

i have seen this before a long time ago

a young woman did this to me. set up a running mate.

SHE WANTED TO GET MARRIED

and because i was like clooney i scared her and she wasn't sure if i could be moulded into her agenda

Quote : Wyldfire
I don't think she will ask or try to see this guy again. If she does then he would be justified in dumping her.

:cheer:


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[Don Legend]

So effectively your saying hes passed her test this time around at least. so, lets say in few months time she tells him her ex is contacting her and then after a while she says to Clooney she wants to be able to meet up with him. Would you agree that Clooney should dump her?
I ask cus i dumped my G/F when she went to the cinema with her ex but got back together with her on the condition she didn't see him one on one but she could in groups. Anyway 6 months later she said she wanted to be able to see him and this was when i was going through a rough time. I dumped her, but have wondered what the best thing is to do in these situations. I just wonder if this might bite Clooney in the ass in the future.
It just seems to me that this is a very tactful way of giving a ultimatium, not too different from 'if you go and see him, we're finished' it probably is a useful one to use if you intend on keeping the girl. I wonder if its more trouble than its worth though, i mean it seems to me and others here that a decent girl wouldn't do this in the first place.

 

[Lost In Translation]

MYA - Case of the EX ( lyrics )

remixed by DJ Lost In Translation

vocals by CLOONEY

SoSuave Hit Squad productions 2005 :

Yeah clooney
Red zone wha what

It’s after midnight
And he’s on your phone
Saying come over
Cause he’s all alone
I could tell it was your ex
By your tone
Why is he calling now
After so long

Chorus
Now what is that he wants
Tell me what is that he needs
Did he hear about the brand new benz
That you just bought for me ( clooney wishes lol )
Cause y’all didn’t have no kids
Didn’t shared no mutual friends
And you told me that he f*cked tricks
When y’all broke up in 96

Hook
What’cha gonna do
When you can’t say no
When his feelings start to show
Girl I really need to know
And how you gonna act
How you gonna handle that
What’cha gonna do when he wants you back

Hook

There’s no need to
Reminisce about the past
Obviously cause that shyt did not last
I know how men will try to game you
So don’t get caught up
Because baby you’ll lose

Chorus

Hook 3x’s

Tell me why he on the phone
In the middle of the night
Tell me why he in your life
Trying to get what’s mine
He don’t know me
He’s about to know me
I’m in your life
That’s how it’s gonna be
I’ve seen his photo
He ain’t even all that
So if you want him back
You can take him back
Cause game recognize game
I could do the same thing
Get it right, change
Or give back the ring

Hook 3x’s


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[joekerr31]

she's playing games. i've said it a million times. in the end, wyldfire's advice will turn out to be misguided.

it's a total load of bullsh*t that women can be "just friends" with someone that wants to f*ck them. oh don't get me wrong, everyone woman thinks they can.

but think it through... a woman is basically saying "ya, that guy wants to f*ck me. and i really like him as a friend. but right now im not available or looking for those qualities in a lover. so i just want him as a friend"

check back in a year "ya, i dont know what happened. one night we were talking about our lives, and suddenly it hit me, this "friend" had all the qualities i want in a man. we ended up sleeping together, and after that i just had to leave my boyfriend."

im sorry, but no matter how you cut it, if thers a guy you like enough to have as a friend, and he wants to f*ck you, you are PLAYING WITH FIRE. no woman that i've meant has the long term control over their emotions to guarantee that such connection doesn't at some point spark into something.

a lot of women like having the "friend who wants to f*ck them" on the side, because they get a boost from it and feel they can stand up to their man more. they develop 'i aint taking no sh*t" attitude, because they have a backup plan.

if you are truly committed to your relationship, you don't risk its health with this kind of crap.

wyld - i will say that after say 40 its a whole different ball game. in your 20s this behavior 99% of the time leads to a break up. in your 30s it leads to a break up say 70% of the time. in your 40s probably only 10% of the time.

as people get older they develop the maturity to be able to know what they are getting in to and to manage it appropriately. thats not the case in your 20s and ealry 30s for most.

as for her email and ******** translation...

"i love you so much, but you aren't giving me everything i need. so i'm letting you damn well know that if you don't start giving me what i want i'm goign to pursue something with this guy. i don't care if i have to demean myself by f*cking a guy i dont care about, i'll do it if you don't start treating me how i want to be treated."

immature. like i say, shes playing a game. a mature woman would simply say 'im not getting what i want from this. either you start paying more attention to me or we are done."

this will end in disaster, in part also that Clooney seems to hold some responsibility in all this by actually not paying much attention to her.

J

 

[Lost In Translation]

i don't think it's about attention

clooney would have stepped up his game ( we assume ) since this sh*t began

my instincts say she is starting to get that way that chicks get at 20 they start looking for a man who looks like he will go the distance ( marriage )

clooney cannot be controlled or manipulated

this worries her

so she is setting up a plan B incase clooney falls through

the problem is that plan B is an actual person

he has needs

and no matter how tricky this chick is she is not going to be able to keep him online without SPENDING TIME with him

thus we have the "friend" excuse to spend time to keep him online

she knows plan B is an AFC

she knows he is perfect marriage material

BUT ONLY IF SHE CANT GET WHAT SHE WANTS

damn these young women today are ruthless


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" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation

 

[joekerr31]

LIT, i love your replies and your insight.

its damn refreshing whne you hear someone cut through all the bullsh*t and just telling it like it is.

props

 

[penkitten]

lost , how much could you sell those lyrics for ?
american idol should use it

 

[NewMan]

The problem with this situation isn't that your girlfriend wishes they could be friends. The problem is that her ex wants to interfere in her relationship and get her back. Just explain to her that since HIS intentions aren't just to be friends that she's not going to be able to be friends with him because they aren't on the same page. He wants more, she doesn't and all she'll be doing by trying to be his friend is leading him on and inviting him to interfere in her relationship with you. As long as you make sure she understands what his ploys mean in a calm, secure way you'll be just fine.

No that is EXACTLY the problem.

The problem is she wants a relationship with an ex of hers.

when a chick has sucked another guys dyck - when he's fvcked her - she should know better than to think they can be friends.

When a guy has fvcked a girl he thinks he has the key to the kingdom. she will always have that with him.

that is the difference between a man and woman.

and women should have enough respect for her guy to know better.

 

[Lost In Translation]

penkitten
lost , how much could you sell those lyrics for ?
american idol should use it

penkitten i can cut you in on a piece of the CLOONEY/William Hung pie

i am producing this sh*t so you can be manager and get 15%

CLOONEY hasn't won a singing contest since the Heinz Baked Beans sing-a-long when he was 7 ( and you had to send a coupon in to enter lol )

so you know what you are getting into i think he has a chance this year

he quit drinking and i reckon he has enough game to seduce Paula Abdul ( not that it is really difficult for contestants )

but hopefully this will force her to vote for CLOONEY to save another public scandal

what i was thinking for his final act get MYA to come on an do a duet

that sh*t would rock

because then the song goes both ways

he would win easy

and we would cash in :yes:

if he lost then we could always get him singing at shopping malls and circus events like alot of the ex idol stars do

WIN WIN SITUATION


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" stop being insecure " i hate that saying. it's a cop out for not having enough balls to confront a woman about what she is doing THAT IS WRONG or potentially damaging to a long term relationship. – Lost In Translation

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Don Legend
So effectively your saying hes passed her test this time around at least. so, lets say in few months time she tells him her ex is contacting her and then after a while she says to Clooney she wants to be able to meet up with him. Would you agree that Clooney should dump her?
I ask cus i dumped my G/F when she went to the cinema with her ex but got back together with her on the condition she didn't see him one on one but she could in groups. Anyway 6 months later she said she wanted to be able to see him and this was when i was going through a rough time. I dumped her, but have wondered what the best thing is to do in these situations. I just wonder if this might bite Clooney in the ass in the future.
It just seems to me that this is a very tactful way of giving a ultimatium, not too different from 'if you go and see him, we're finished' it probably is a useful one to use if you intend on keeping the girl. I wonder if its more trouble than its worth though, i mean it seems to me and others here that a decent girl wouldn't do this in the first place.

The ex is likely to keep bothering her. She can't control that and neither can Clooney. The answer to what he should do will depend entirely on how she deals with it. Because Clooney calmly made it clear that he knows what the ex is up to this time, his girlfriend can't get away with thinking a meeting would be innocent. She knows that if it happens again and she shows interest in seeing her ex it's going to have a negative impact on her current relationship. She knows this even though it was never spoken. (This was something I considered when I gave him the advice I gave him.) She knows that if she agrees or suggests seeing her ex now that she is telling Clooney that she is choosing her ex over him. So...if she sees the ex without insisting herself that Clooney come too, or plans on it then Clooney should break up with her.

Any advice I give to people I always consider the long term impact...not just the immediate impact. That's why you'll see me give advice that seems a bit different than anyone else's. Clooney had to draw a line in the sand without making it obvious and making him look weak. My advice allowed him to draw the line covertly yet effectively. He's made it clear where he stands without coming right out and saying it.

 

[Wyldfire]

You guys keep forgetting...it is MEN who have a hard time being friends with the opposite sex without wanting more. Women don't think like men. Women actually do like to be friends with men without wanting anything more...and yes, even if they used to date them or were involved with them. Basically...when a woman wants to be friends with an ex they just don't want the guy to hate them or talk badly about them to other people. It's part of the whole image projection thing. Women want to be viewed as being nice and sweet and not mean. It's an entirely different dynamic at work when a woman wants to stay friends with their ex than it is when a guy wants to be friends with his ex...usually.

Believe it or not, most women don't assume that when a guy or an ex says they want to be friends that they really want more than that. You have to point that out to women for them to see it most of the time...as Clooney did with his girlfriend.

I used to work with this girl waitressing. She was what all of you here would call an AW and a tease. She was covering the daytime bar and a guy came in two days in a row for lunch and left her a huge tip. She came into the kitchen and talked about how he was just trying to be nice because he knew waitresses didn't make much. I laughed and said, "No...he's just trying to get into your pants. He thinks if he's nice enough it will impress you so much that you'll show your appreciation by spreading your legs." The two male cooks looked at me in shock and then grinned. She was offended and said I was wrong. The cooks said, "No, she's actually right."

Young girls honestly don't usually have this figured out until someone tells them. Older women are a bit wiser and know the score.

Since Clooney's girlfriend has done nothing prior to this that he's mentioned that indicates she's a bad egg then perhaps she deserves to be given the benefit of the doubt.

If it comes up again...THEN would be the time to advise Clooney to dump her. Right now all you are doing in advising him to dump her is potentially lead him to second guess his own judgement. That, fellas, is not doing him any favors. Success with the opposite sex requires the ability to trust your own judgement. Clooney has that...don't try and take it from him. That's just encouraging him to take a step backwards.

 

[CLOONEY]

One thing that gets me about this entire forum and most of the guys on it, is that they honestly think a woman should NEVER think about cheating and should NEVER flirt!

The solid fact is, a woman will ALWAYS think about cheating and will ALWAYS flirt at times. It is human nature and you cant change it.

I even bet Wyld has flirted and thought of cheating on exes in the past. The fact remains, it is only when you actually give into that temptation that you have committed a sin. (exactly the same as Adam and Eve at the beggining of time). Temptation is always there, and impure thoughts will always cross your mind, it is only when you act upon them you have committed wrong. Did she act upon them? No. The opportunity definately arose, but she put out the fire (for now).

Either way, as I said before, only time will tell what happens. But if you go around dumping a girl for the first sign of trouble you see, I highly doubt ANY of the guys will end up with a serious LTR that holds for a long long period.

Either way, all this thinking is just frying my brain, time to relax and just enoy the moment for now.

 

[Lost In Translation]

OneArmDeeJay thanks for posting your story

i have been there too

now empty you damn PM box Mr Popular

Some women are like children in the sense that unless they are given definite rules and structures to live within, they will misbehave and push, push, push to see how much they can get away with.


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Quote: Pook
“Many girls merely upgrade their boyfriends and never become single “

 

[joekerr31]

either you buy into two camps in life and your outlook on women.

camp one (this is wyldfire's camp)

women dont know what they are doing. they are able to be friends with ex lovers that want to bang them, and all kinds of men in general, without any problems. men just have to realize that being with a woman means letting her do whatever she wants and accepting that yes, she might cheat, get HIV and give it to you, but thats the price of being with a ANY woman.

camp two

Most women are immature and like to be "friends" with anyone who will stroke their ego. Mature women will commit toa relationship, and that means making it clear to her man that she's loyal to him - which means no meetings or calls with an ex bf that's made it clear he wants her back and wants to f*ck her. A man always sees himself as a prize, and any woman that is not prepared to treat him as such either 1) NEXT or 2) becomes nothing but a sex toy while the man looks for a better upgrade


wyldfire is leading men right downt the AFC path. im really hoping guys arent buying this sh*t.

Think about it. would you call and meet an ex gf that wants to ride your c*ck? you'd only do that if you were

1) unsure about yoru current relationship and using this ex to figure out what your emotions truly are for the girl your with now
2) your a scumbag that will cheat on your gf cuz you want fresh puss* (scum assuming your in acommitted relationship)
3) your trying to make your gf jealous - sh*t testing them

no one, not even the most mentally retarded woman in the world, could possibly think that keepign in touch with an ex that wants to bang her is a GOOD thing for her current relationship.

As for the statement thrown out along the way that the NEXT camp is filled with guys who are bitter, inexperienced, etc.

thats just bullsh*t.

i can tell you that my advice comes from making mistakes earlier in my life. I'd have given anything 10 years ago to have known the difference between a good girl and a b*tch. back then i didn't. and as a result i let b*tches mind f*ck me, and didn't pay attention to the good girls. and you know what? i paid the price, because i lost out on the good girls.

Clooney's girl ain't one of hte good ones. maybe clooney ain't one of hte good guys either. so in that sense maybe they are made for each other.

all i can tell you is that the couple of good women that i've been with over the years, things just move along smoothly. you don't get ANY of this drama bullsh*t. and i can tell you, i may have been dumb in my 20s, but now that im in my 30s, the next good girl to come along gets treated like royalty - becuase thats how they treat their man. until then, all the b*tches are nothing but sex toys - and I treat them like sex toys because that's the level of respect they deserve.

J

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by backbreaker
I would never let a GF of mine see a guy who openly tells her he wants to bang her. I mean, I would let her, but if she came back her stuff would be packed outside.

But you are assuming that all ex's want to get back with their old partner, ,and that is the farthest thing from the truth... at least in my case.. they are Ex's for a reason. Ovbiously something went wrong.

If you would never let a GF of yours see an EX who openly tells her he wants to bang her, why would you then allow her to see an EX where you think she might still have feelings for him?? isn't that the same or worse?! Because the onus is now layed on the girl state of mind and not on the guy.

YOU CLAIM TO TRUST HER BUT AS SOON AS THE EX LETS HIS REAL MOTIVES BE KNOWN THEN ITS NOT OK FOR HER?? HOW WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT HIS MOTIVES AND INTENTIONS ARE?? MAYBE HE IS A WEEZEL THAT KEEPS IT WELL HIDDEN AND TRY TO WIN HER OVER??

I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU NEEDED TO TRUST THE GIRL??? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE??

The problem is when an EX dumps your girlfriend and she was in love with him, a part of hers would always want him back.

His rejection of her is a greater challenge then your acceptence of her. From everything we know about women being emotional and irrational don't you think that if the oppertuinty comes where her EX (whom she used to be in love with) now wishes to want to be with her because she is worthy again?? What is more exciting to a woman?? a lost love? or a current love? I think you can understand my point. Basically if she asks you that its ok to see her ex "as a friend" and you know the past history, you are letting her get in touch with her past and emotions. She is your girl do not allow it. By not allowing it you become a greater challenge by rejecting her "get together union" because you tell her you won't stand by and allow it. She now has two choices:

a) See the ex with your blessing. This way she still has you in the pocket because you "TRUST HER" and allow her to see him. She can now play this angle of seeing what the ex has to offer and if it won't work out then she can always return to you.

b) You let her known that if she sees her Ex, then its best that you start seeing yours and maybe the two of you shouldn't even be together. You now let her know that she can't play this angle, that if she risks rediscovering her feeling with the EX (which is not a sure thing it will work out) YOU WILL BE GONE. In this situation the risk is too great for her to try and she won't even bother risking it (unless she really wants to be with him and thus you know the truth now and you can get rid of her.)

Its a bad idea to have her meet with an EX of her's she used to love, just like its a bad idea to have her meet with an EX who still wants to fvck her.

DjDamage

 

[joekerr31]

see, personally, i think when a woman tells you

1) my past lover wants to see me again because he says he has feelings for me
2) im going to see him if its ok with you
3) (not said, but understood) you aren't paying enough attention to me

all of these thigns point towards disaster.

will she cheat? no.

will she keep him on the back burner, so that if Clooney doesn't smarten up she has another guy to run to? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

if a girl even has to bring this up its time to next her. no sane woman who is happy with her man and who is committed to that relationship would even bring this up!

she'd shut the other guy down and not even let her man know that it even happened.

woman ONLY let you know about this crap if

1) they think you might find out that they had contact with the other guy (and want to let you know nothing is going on before you get hte wrong idea) OR
2) they are testing you

god, everyone putting it on the man to fix this situation are nuts.

she created a lose lose the moment she told Clooney she wanted to see him.

now some are saying when a woman presents you with a lose lose, act confident and dont let it bother you. that's good advice, IF you want this kind of woman in your life.

im in the NEXT camp, but ONLY because i have no desire for these types of women in my life. and contrary to what wyldfire says, not all women would react the way clooney's did.

in fact, most women who have a high IL in their current relationship and were thinking long term, would tell the suitor - "Im sorry, im with someone right now. I can't have any kind of relationship with you." and then she wouldn't even tell her man she did that.

the reason why so many men are pissed off with their relationships is because they put up with this kind of sh*t out of desperation.

they are so afraid of being alone or having to find another girl, they put up with this crap. then, it eats away at them and they start getting mad with teh b*tch. then she dumps them telling them that they are controlling and insensitive.

for the love of God guys, when a woman starts showing these kinds of signs don't waste another minute of your life with her.

the move clooney should have made would have been to say -

"I don't know why you are talking to him, or why you are telling me about this. If our relationship is where your focus is, i'd think this was a no brainer. Obviously its not a no brainer for you, which means i need to take some time to think about what I thought we had. Because i thought we had a committed relationship, and in my world that means seeing some guy who has feelings with you is a no brainer. Do what you want to do, it's your life. I have no right to tell you to see or not see anyone. But i need a break from this to rethink whether you're the woman i want to invest my emotional energies with."

dammit guys, YOU ARE THE PRIZE. and that means you'll take a break if you suspect you're being treated like crap. you'll show her that you can live without her and that there are other women out there you can give your prize to.

too many guys keep thinking - i want to be the prize but not risk losing the relationship. OMG! How can you do that?! you can't if she's sh*t testing you and you arent prepared to walk away.

this is soooo basic.

J

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by CLOONEY


I even bet Wyld has flirted and thought of cheating on exes in the past.

As a naturally friendly person, I do flirt...or at least that's what it tends to look like. If I think a guy is interested and I'm not, I won't flirt with him, though. And in a realtionship, I tone it down. As far as cheating or thinking about cheating...nope. I have very solid morals and values and to me, to cheat is a very, very poor reflection upon myself. There are certain behaviors that if I showed would actually be more harmful to myself than my partner. Cheating is one of them. I would lose all self-respect if I broke a promise I made to someone. I don't commit lightly and when I do, I genuinely mean it. I don't think that's really that common a state of mind, though. I'd agree that most women and men DO think about cheating to an extent, whether they act on it or not. I'm not one of them, though.