The dangers and potential destructiveness of anti-feminism
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I recently discovered the ignore feature. I must say that utilizing sure helps minimize the negativity on this forum!
It's really a shame so many guys are jumping on this thread only to post insults and flame bait and never even post on topic.
It's really a shame so many guys are jumping on this thread only to post insults and flame bait and never even post on topic.
diplomatic_lies
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Go back to the kitchen, b*tch.
I'm not much of a debater.
I'm not much of a debater.
Correct...a DJ, according to THIS site IS supposed to be a positive, happy and pleasant guy who you enjoy being around. Something has gone horribly awry on this site and there are MANY guys on here who are so negative, miserable and vile that it's genuinely hard to imagine that they could actually be happy, positive or pleasant. Negative people suck the energy out of everyone they are around, and people tend to avoid them like the plague. What some here fail to realize is that this thread was posted to try to help the ones who have become negative or are at risk of becoming negative realize that how they are being is in direct conflict with what they are supposedly trying to become. As is quite apparent by all the sniping and personal attacks directed at me in this thread...there really IS a very serious problem here.
So Many Ways
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It amazes me that guys like Player_Supreme, who actually posted useful information got banned while this kind of garbage permeates this site. It's a damn shame.
Guys, you're wasting your time arguing with this broad. It serves no purpose.
Guys, you're wasting your time arguing with this broad. It serves no purpose.
Well if we're realistic the insults/etc probably come from baiting from you if anything. Saying a lot of the people here are wrong in your introductory post isn't going to endear you to anyone is it?
Feminism is a sexist ideollogy. Much like anything which illogically places one person above another...I despise it.
I'm not pent up and aggressive. I'm anti-feminist.
But guys - get your emotions in check. Debating is like war. You cannot show the opposition your opinions, as they will learn your weakness.
ThunderMaverick
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Everyone here arguing against Wyldfire has proven to be in my eyes, trolls.
Never in her post did Wyldfire say she believed in feminism or supported it.
I'll break down what she said simply. Now this quote will have nothing to do with me or women, color or creed, etc:
"those who fight monsters must be careful not to become monsters themselves"
There was no defending. No bashing. Just a warning. And bascially, I've taken heed.
Guys, put your egos and overloaded testosterone to the side and understand that she made a good point. Why are you arguing against a damn good point? And why are you briging up past topics, calling names, and doing other garbage to ruin a good point. No matter how hard you try, you can't take that away from her; a damn good post.
Sorry. You guys lose. Keep up the good work, Wyldfire. I hear you. So do a lot of others.
Q- she didn't defend feminism for the last FUCKING TIME!!! And she didn't bait either. If you felt that she was reffering to you guys when she said "MANY" guys on this site have the wrong idea, that was just your own insecurities telling you to say "she's just being a typical bitch" without listening.
Listen to the message guys. Think calm and clearly. Be cool. You catch more flies with honey.
Never in her post did Wyldfire say she believed in feminism or supported it.
I'll break down what she said simply. Now this quote will have nothing to do with me or women, color or creed, etc:
"those who fight monsters must be careful not to become monsters themselves"
There was no defending. No bashing. Just a warning. And bascially, I've taken heed.
Guys, put your egos and overloaded testosterone to the side and understand that she made a good point. Why are you arguing against a damn good point? And why are you briging up past topics, calling names, and doing other garbage to ruin a good point. No matter how hard you try, you can't take that away from her; a damn good post.
Sorry. You guys lose. Keep up the good work, Wyldfire. I hear you. So do a lot of others.
Q- she didn't defend feminism for the last FUCKING TIME!!! And she didn't bait either. If you felt that she was reffering to you guys when she said "MANY" guys on this site have the wrong idea, that was just your own insecurities telling you to say "she's just being a typical bitch" without listening.
Listen to the message guys. Think calm and clearly. Be cool. You catch more flies with honey.
Lost In Translation
Master Don Juan
So Many Ways
Unban PuertoRican_Lover and Player_Supreme!!!!!!!!!
i agree 100%
Lost In Translation
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Unban PuertoRican_Lover and Player_Supreme!!!!!!!!!
i agree 100%
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spider_007
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I'm sad to see pook go down that same road (If you read some of his leatest work, you'l know hwat i meen). He is a mentor of a lot of people on here (and a legend). He needs to stop spending his days inside a divorce court. I'll make for a short and depresing life.
It is nice to be aware of all this stuff in our culture. Hawever, you have to decide what you want to deal with in your life and what you don't. If you meet a wery femenist woman, and you realize that her path in life is not the same as yours.....turn around and walk away, and be happy that you have enought understanding of life and enough control of your life to make that decision and make it hapen.
It is nice to be aware of all this stuff in our culture. Hawever, you have to decide what you want to deal with in your life and what you don't. If you meet a wery femenist woman, and you realize that her path in life is not the same as yours.....turn around and walk away, and be happy that you have enought understanding of life and enough control of your life to make that decision and make it hapen.
K B
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Wyldfire, I PARTLY agree with you. Let me tell you what happened to me just last weekend. My girlfriend and I were at her grandparent's house, and were watching television. After about the sixth commercial that illisited laughs from the females there that portrayed men as bumbling, incompetent fools, and the woman as the smart and poised supermom/career woman, I decided to speak up. All the women there thought they were funny, but I pointed out how most of the television shows and commercials today are disrespectful to men, and how it is giving both women and men an unhealthy look at how relationships are supposed to work.
Let me tell you, they all looked at me like I was CRAZY! We got into a debate, with the women there all banding together and telling me that that is how most men are, and can't I take a joke? Sure, but it is not a joke, it is an ATTACK on being male (and white) that bothers me. After giving numerous examples, my girlfriend started to become upset and her mother angry. To make matters worse, her grandfather and her father and uncle just sat there with blank looks with their thumbs up their butt!
I was dismissed as being bitter by my girlfriend and her mother, but then, something took me by surprise. Her grandmother, God Bless her, stood up for me and agreed with me. She simply regurgitated what I had said back to the ladies and threw in some examples of her own. And you know what happened? Suddenly, they could understand. It took ANOTHER FEMALE to get them to listen. Maybe I wasn't so wrong after all, maybe I had some good points. Their grandmother was a respectable, logical woman, but coming from a man, they wouldn't hear it.
Wyldfire, if we are supposed to "not fight" what are we supposed to do about it? The reason why men are in this jamb in the first place is because most of us (read my obove story about the other men who sat there while I got ripped apart) just sit there and take it like good little boys.
Using feminism, women changed things to get what they want, to get "respect." Feminism was their movement, they fought back. Men do not have a movement to be heard. If we tried, women would accuse us of being "bitter" and not being "manly." You said it yourself, things are not fair for men these days. But now you are saying to not fight the ill effects that feminism has had on us (men)? If we do not challenge women to change their thinking about how they view, portray, and disrespect men, WHAT is going to change?
Let me tell you, they all looked at me like I was CRAZY! We got into a debate, with the women there all banding together and telling me that that is how most men are, and can't I take a joke? Sure, but it is not a joke, it is an ATTACK on being male (and white) that bothers me. After giving numerous examples, my girlfriend started to become upset and her mother angry. To make matters worse, her grandfather and her father and uncle just sat there with blank looks with their thumbs up their butt!
I was dismissed as being bitter by my girlfriend and her mother, but then, something took me by surprise. Her grandmother, God Bless her, stood up for me and agreed with me. She simply regurgitated what I had said back to the ladies and threw in some examples of her own. And you know what happened? Suddenly, they could understand. It took ANOTHER FEMALE to get them to listen. Maybe I wasn't so wrong after all, maybe I had some good points. Their grandmother was a respectable, logical woman, but coming from a man, they wouldn't hear it.
Wyldfire, if we are supposed to "not fight" what are we supposed to do about it? The reason why men are in this jamb in the first place is because most of us (read my obove story about the other men who sat there while I got ripped apart) just sit there and take it like good little boys.
Using feminism, women changed things to get what they want, to get "respect." Feminism was their movement, they fought back. Men do not have a movement to be heard. If we tried, women would accuse us of being "bitter" and not being "manly." You said it yourself, things are not fair for men these days. But now you are saying to not fight the ill effects that feminism has had on us (men)? If we do not challenge women to change their thinking about how they view, portray, and disrespect men, WHAT is going to change?
Firstly, it wasn't just about this post. She has flamed and insulted members of this board on a continual basis.
I love how you use the same tactics she does. If we disagree, then we have an "overload of testosterone" or we're trolls???
Why don't you get a grip? It's not just a few people who have a problem with her. Sure she makes some good points, but they get lost because she chooses to make her points in an arrogant, condescending manner. And like her, you think anyone that disagrees with her is insecure or a woman basher.
Check yourself before you give us your sage advice about manhood.
I haven't met too many women like wyldifire in my life. She thinks she possesses none of the usual "women" traits. She thinks being 10 to 20 years older than most members of this board gives her the right to condescend to younger members, and she thinks anyone who disagrees with her has problems with their masculinity.
And of course she has her cronies that come on here and defend her. They want to make themselves look like the sensible ones amongst the rest of us barbarians.
What a joke.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
Whenever you disagree with the feminist bullsh*t, the first word out of a woman's mouth will be to say that you are BITTER, every single time.
This is the same defence if you were to admit to not really liking homos. They will immediately question your security with your own sexuality.
This is just par for the coarse with lefty whackos. You shouldn't have even broached this topic. Know it and understand it for what it is, and leave it at that.
And guys, everytime the batteries die in Wyldfire's dildo, she has to amuse herself by starting controversial threads.
This is the same defence if you were to admit to not really liking homos. They will immediately question your security with your own sexuality.
This is just par for the coarse with lefty whackos. You shouldn't have even broached this topic. Know it and understand it for what it is, and leave it at that.
And guys, everytime the batteries die in Wyldfire's dildo, she has to amuse herself by starting controversial threads.
And what does that have to do with the topic? Nothing. PLEASE stay on topic. If you aren't interested in this particular discussion and taking part in a mature and logical way then kindly visit one of the mulititude of other threads on here to choose from.
Thanks in advance!
I think the reason I felt the need to start this thread had a lot to do with the recent posts by Pook. It saddens me a great deal to see such a bright, well spoken man become so consumed by something so damn destructive to his soul. And because he is, indeed, a mentor to so many of the guys who make their way here, those posts he's making lately are very dangerous and harmful to the guys who put him on a pedestal. They need to stop doing that. It's no different than putting women on pedestals. It may help guys break the habit of putting the women on that pedestal, but most of them who idolize him are only replacing the women with a dude. Not good. Especially when that dude has crossed the line of concern and awareness to a very unhealthy obsession. I really hope he snaps out of it soon.
Her Grandmother was helpful because based on what you say about her...she is abe to think like a man AND like a woman. That's the way that I am. Men often have a hard time talking to women about feminism for a few reasons. The first one is that when a man realizes what's going on, they get kinda angry. If any anger shows when you try to talk about this with women you WILL sound a bit bitter. That doesn't necessarily mean that you are...only that it's how you may have portrayed yourself...the impression you gave. Women and men communicate very differently as a rule. Men try to communicate with women as if they thought like men. Women try to communicate with men as if they thought like women. That doesn't work. Instead of talking about right and wrong, true and false or any black and white or either/or discussions with women about feminism you HAVE to make it about feelings and emotions. You'll get much further talking to women about feminism if you explain how the commercials are emotionally hurtful and mean to men.
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
Try duracell next time, sweetheart.
This thread started out reasonably, but it was only ever a wind up to begin with.
This thread started out reasonably, but it was only ever a wind up to begin with.
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