The dangers and potential destructiveness of anti-feminism

[mrRuckus]

Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by Wyldfire
So are you saying that you think it is good for men to behave and think like feminists and embrace victimhood by always looking for a reason to feel violated and mistreated?

Of course, it can't be that I was simply responding to the post made to me...I just HAD to have ulterior motives intended to in some way harm men.

For the record...I'm an anti-feminist, so if you are viewing me as a feminist there is a serious problem with your perceptions. Perhaps it is because you are LOOKING for a reason to feel like a victim...

um he didn't say any of that stuff. what's with women always taking things so damn far? the only thing he was talking about was the tiny bit he quoted from you.

The other night after sex my gf was falling asleep (haha unrelated) so i got up and went to the living room to watch tv instead of watching tv in the bedroom.

I fell asleep watching tv on the recliner and the next day i find out i had abandoned her ALLLL NIGHT and was involved in a battle of wills of whether i'd go back to the bedroom and sleep with her or if she'd come out and talk to me to find out what was wrong. "i woke up every hour and kept wanting to go home and leave like you left me. and no i wasn't going to beg you to find out what was wrong with you. it's your job to come tell me if something is wrong."

Nothing was wrong. I wasn't battling any wills. I wasn't trying to get her to come out and see what was wrong. I just fell the fcuk asleep and the only reason i was in the other room watching tv was to be NICE and not bug her with the tv while she's trying to sleep.

how the hell do women make up these fantasies? Advice to women: "SLOW THE HELL DOWN before your brain gets the better of you."

hmm off topic.

 

[mrRuckus]

Originally posted by Brainman
There are feminists that believe, like chauvinists, that their sex should be considered superior to the other.

The word 'chauvinist' does not imply male.

Neither does the word 'bastard.'


public service announcement.

 

[Don Juanabbe]

I banged Wyldfire....

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by mrRuckus
um he didn't say any of that stuff. what's with women always taking things so damn far? the only thing he was talking about was the tiny bit he quoted from you.

The other night after sex my gf was falling asleep (haha unrelated) so i got up and went to the living room to watch tv instead of watching tv in the bedroom.

I fell asleep watching tv on the recliner and the next day i find out i had abandoned her ALLLL NIGHT and was involved in a battle of wills of whether i'd go back to the bedroom and sleep with her or if she'd come out and talk to me to find out what was wrong. "i woke up every hour and kept wanting to go home and leave like you left me. and no i wasn't going to beg you to find out what was wrong with you. it's your job to come tell me if something is wrong."

Nothing was wrong. I wasn't battling any wills. I wasn't trying to get her to come out and see what was wrong. I just fell the fcuk asleep and the only reason i was in the other room watching tv was to be NICE and not bug her with the tv while she's trying to sleep.

how the hell do women make up these fantasies? Advice to women: "SLOW THE HELL DOWN before your brain gets the better of you."

hmm off topic.

My post:
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The only ones who will flame me over this post are the ones who have crossed the line from concern and awareness to obsession, because it will hit a nerve.

If what I wrote makes even one guy think and recognize the dangers I mention, then it will be worth all the flames I'm liable to get.

Bottom line...if men respond to feminism with feminism like behavior and attitudes it only worsens the situation. It's better to resist the negative messages, point out politely to non-feminist women when they aren't being fair to men and not allow the negativity and frustration to turn into anger and hatred.
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Titboy's post:
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LOL

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Originally posted by Wyldfire
The only ones who will flame me over this post are the ones who have crossed the line from concern and awareness to obsession, because it will hit a nerve.


Translation:

By saying the above I've set up a platform of shaming them so I'm covered if and when those come to disagree with my post.
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My post:
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Re: LOL

quote:
Originally posted by ( . )( . )
Translation:

By saying the above I've set up a platform of shaming them so I'm covered if and when those come to disagree with my post.


So are you saying that you think it is good for men to behave and think like feminists and embrace victimhood by always looking for a reason to feel violated and mistreated?

Of course, it can't be that I was simply responding to the post made to me...I just HAD to have ulterior motives intended to in some way harm men.

For the record...I'm an anti-feminist, so if you are viewing me as a feminist there is a serious problem with your perceptions. Perhaps it is because you are LOOKING for a reason to feel like a victim...
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Titboy has twice accused me of attempting to "shame" men. The first time was when I challenged his OPINION on another issue. This time he later admits that he didn't even bother to read the original post. He most likely didn't even read past that one sentence that he quoted in the other post, either. In fact, he totally ignored the actual topic and just focused in on one line that offended him and struck a nerve.

I didn't claim that he was saying anything...I ASKED him if he was saying that he thinks it's good for men to behave like feminists. Had he responded to the actual topic and made a logical response in the first place, I would not have had to ask that question. Instead, he reacted in an emotional way...just like so many of the guys focused too much on being anti-feminist do so often.

The whole point of this thread is to help the guys here realize and recognize that there is a real danger in getting obsessed with fighting feminism...it makes men sound and act very emotionally, they lose all sight of logic and rationality and sound like bitter, angry, hysterical feminists...the exact same people whose behavior they are so disgusted and angry with in the first place. This thread is a warning to guys here to NOT become that which you despise. Unfortunately, we have a lot of radicals on this site and just like radical feminists, radical pro-lifers, radical racists and every other radical group on the planet....they sound bug sh*t crazy. I happen to think we can really do without that here.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
I banged Wyldfire....

No you haven't...

You're off topic.

Cease and desist or get lost.

Thanks in advance!

 

[jprjrjr]

Let me preface this by saying I'm not trying to flame here. In the past, Wyldfire has accused me of making incendiary comments to her. She has said that apart from myself, only a few other people have a problem with her, so it must be our fault.

As you can see, this thread illustrates the fact that more than a few people have a problem with her. Almost all her threads turn into flame wars, because she thinks her advanced age gives her the authority to be pompous, arrogant and haughty towards those younger than herself.

Wyldfire likes to laud these "wonderful" men she's come across, as if they are these shining beacons of manhood, while the rest of us are just silly kids.

She claims she doesn't want to be a victim, yet how many times have we heard about her demon of an ex husband, and the abuse he bestowed up her?

Quite frankly, she is a drama queen. She claims that she's on this board to offer helpful insight, when in reality she just stirs up trouble.

What does she think we're going to say to her silly rhetoric? This is a board for MEN to discuss the very confusing world of dating women. She seems to think she's so different from other women, and what applies to other women doesn't apply to her.

I don't buy it.

 

[Big Eee Zee]

I won't read the last 4 pages, because frankly you all are morons with the IQ of paste if you're actually gonna argue about this over the internet. I swear, there oughta be an intelligence test you have to pass to use a computer.


Regardless...

I don't much care about feminism. I think it's cute. But even so, I think wyldfire has a good point. If you spend your whole life trying to fight something like that, you are gonna make yourself miserable.

So to wyldfire: I personally don't care about feminism. But if/when I start to, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by jprjrjr
Let me preface this by saying I'm not trying to flame here. In the past, Wyldfire has accused me of making incendiary comments to her. She has said that apart from myself, only a few other people have a problem with her, so it must be our fault.

As you can see, this thread illustrates the fact that more than a few people have a problem with her. Almost all her threads turn into flame wars, because she thinks her advanced age gives her the authority to be pompous, arrogant and haughty towards those younger than herself.

Wyldfire likes to laud these "wonderful" men she's come across, as if they are these shining beacons of manhood, while the rest of us are just silly kids.

She claims she doesn't want to be a victim, yet how many times have we heard about her demon of an ex husband, and the abuse he bestowed up her?

Quite frankly, she is a drama queen. She claims that she's on this board to offer helpful insight, when in reality she just stirs up trouble.

What does she think we're going to say to her silly rhetoric? This is a board for MEN to discuss the very confusing world of dating women. She seems to think she's so different from other women, and what applies to other women doesn't apply to her.

I don't buy it.

You are off topic. If you have something of value to contribute to the topic at hand...feel free. If not, kindly make yourself scarce.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Big Eee Zee
I won't read the last 4 pages, because frankly you all are morons with the IQ of paste if you're actually gonna argue about this over the internet. I swear, there oughta be an intelligence test you have to pass to use a computer.


Regardless...

I don't much care about feminism. I think it's cute. But even so, I think wyldfire has a good point. If you spend your whole life trying to fight something like that, you are gonna make yourself miserable.

So to wyldfire: I personally don't care about feminism. But if/when I start to, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

Thank you for taking the time to read the post and give a serious and thoughtful response. Much appreciated...

 

[jprjrjr]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
You are off topic. If you have something of value to contribute to the topic at hand...feel free. If not, kindly make yourself scarce.

Thanks in advance!

The topic was about anti-feminsim, and your perception that those on the board belittle women.

I think I was very much on topic. I merely pointed out your hypocrisy, and incendiary nature on this board. I thought it tied in quite well.

 

[jprjrjr]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by ( . )( . )
If your going to use my name I would appreciate if it you didnt bullsh!t.

When I challenged your opinion in that other thread and you could NOT give me a clear and logical response back you DID throw in the towel and you DID use a tried and true chick technique of attempting to shame the person when you failed to make your point and couldnt make any logical points.

I asked those AFC's and you to prove how their "love" differed from everyday oneitis, I asked them to clearly breakdown just what unique and totally selfless acts their girlfriends of 4 to 7 months have done that actually warranted them coming here and stinking up the place with declarations of "love".

When you and them failed such an easy request you DID realise you had nothing and hence you DID attempt to shame me by bringing out the "bitter" card.

Hell if you cant logically debate what the man says then attack and shame the mans character so attention can be diverted from what he actually says. Your aware of this little tactic as much as I am wildfire.





EDIT: Oh wait, now that I've defended myself and called you out again does that mean I'm "To focused on being anti-feminist and emotional"? I wouldnt want that lol.
I must say youve got this shaming thing down pat .

Bravo. what an insightful post. She likes us to believe she's "just one of the guys" but when you challenge her, she brings out the "But I'm a woman, and men should act a certain way or they're not real men" bullshyt.

Obviously I'm not the only one whose noticed this.

 

[jprjrjr]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by jprjrjr
Bravo. what an insightful post. She likes us to believe she's "just one of the guys" but when you challenge her, she brings out the "But I'm a woman, and men should act a certain way or they're not real men" bullshyt.

Obviously I'm not the only one whose noticed this.

P.S. We as men should be very vigilant of this tactic used by a lot of women. When they can't debate you on the facts, they'll quickly fall back on trying to shame you, or question your manhood. Then it's not about the topic anymore, it's about you defending your honor.

Women are keenly aware that society dictates that they can act just about anyway they want, but men must maintain a certain sense of manliness.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by jprjrjr
The topic was about anti-feminsim, and your perception that those on the board belittle women.

I think I was very much on topic. I merely pointed out your hypocrisy, and incendiary nature on this board. I thought it tied in quite well.

Where does my original post even use the term "belittle women"? It doesn't.

No, you aren't on topic...you are trying to instigate a flame war by coming onto this tread and insulting me in your OFF TOPIC posts. I'm not biting...

Again, please contribute to the topic or leave.

 

[Wyldfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by ( . )( . )
If your going to use my name I would appreciate if it you didnt bullsh!t.

When I challenged your opinion in that other thread and you could NOT give me a clear and logical response back you DID throw in the towel and you DID use a tried and true chick technique of attempting to shame the person when you failed to make your point and couldnt make any logical points.

I asked those AFC's and you to prove how their "love" differed from everyday oneitis, I asked them to clearly breakdown just what unique and totally selfless acts their girlfriends of 4 to 7 months have done that actually warranted them coming here and stinking up the place with declarations of "love".

When you and them failed such an easy request you DID realise you had nothing and hence you DID attempt to shame me by bringing out the "bitter" card.

Hell if you cant logically debate what the man says then attack and shame the mans character so attention can be diverted from what he actually says. Your aware of this little tactic as much as I am wildfire.





EDIT: Oh wait, now that I've defended myself and called you out again does that mean I'm "To focused on being anti-feminist and emotional"? I wouldnt want that lol.
I must say youve got this shaming thing down pat .

First of all...I most certainly DID provide a very clear, concise and logical argument to your claims. As for the whole "shame" thing...it was actually YOU who were pulling that stunt on the other guys on the thread. Ironically, the majority of the men posting on that thread took serious issue with the things you were posting.

Secondly...back to this thread now...let's stay on topic, please.

To anyone looking to disrupt this thread:

I'm going to be forced to start alerting on any post that is off topic and made to incite problems. I'm not going to be blamed for simply defending myself anymore. We'll let everyone see who the trouble makers really are.

 

[( . )( . )]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: LOL

Originally posted by jprjrjr
We as men should be very vigilant of this tactic used by a lot of women. When they can't debate you on the facts, they'll quickly fall back on trying to shame you, or question your manhood. Then it's not about the topic anymore, it's about you defending your honor.

Bingo, and in a nutshell thats pretty much the crux of what we are seeing here, textbook stuff, nothing new or out of the ordinary. Just a clever little tactic men should be aware of and call out when necessary.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by fuzzx
'logical thinking woman'

This is an oxymoron dumbass

PLEASE stick to the topic of the thread.

Thanks in advance!

 

[DJ_in_making]

Enough of your flaky tactics Wyldfire!!!:cuss:

 

[Wyldfire]

Unfortunately, I'm left with no choice but to alert all off topic and personal attack posts. I'm quite tired of being blamed for the derailing of threads that always is the result of someone else making personal attacks on me. Every attack or flame will be dealt with in this manner from now on.

Be warned...if you come here to disrupt, derail, attack, insult or start trouble...the moderators WILL be alerted.

Now...back on topic, please.

I have also put all the disruptive posters on ignore. It's mighty nice...

 

[wjh]

Wylfire, just for the record, I agree with you whole-heartedly.

I've had my fair-share of feminist bashing, and well, it was frankly a waste of time. It really was stupid.

It's simple folks, if a certain feminist or group of feminists has you cornered with some B.S. and you don't like it, ignore it and move on with your life. Don't get caught up in it. It's not generally worth the effort and it really does make you look like a jackass.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by wjh
Wylfire, just for the record, I agree with you whole-heartedly.

I've had my fair-share of feminist bashing, and well, it was frankly a waste of time. It really was stupid.

It's simple folks, if a certain feminist or group of feminists has you cornered with some B.S. and you don't like it, ignore it and move on with your life. Don't get caught up in it. It's not generally worth the effort and it really does make you look like a jackass.

Nice to see that there are at least some guys on here who were able to comprehend the first post.