Spinning plates or dating multiple women is overrated advice

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I think the purpose of spin plates, is to be looking for a long term partner.
By being sexually active, you will reduce the chance of progressing a relationship that may not be good, but it's your only source of intimacy
 

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Hi BeExcellent,
@Scaramouche...Oh that will never do,call me Scarra,all my friends do....Yes since being "debauched" at 12 by Older Boys who got a vicarious thrill out of sharing a Gang bang with two young guys...I enjoyed the experience and from the age of 16 have always had an active Svex life....I like Women,can't live without them,the great thing is it gets easier and easier as the the aging demographic tilts things your way....Your own Ben Franklin had a penchant for Older Women wrote an essay on the little Darlings,he also opined that in aging the only thing you may rely on is a Good Woman an Old Dog and cash at the Bank...thanks to the grace of God I have all this and am grateful....Sure I am a Philander,there are 134 Synonyms for this word,one being a Don Juan,suggests the phenomena is very wide spread...These days I appreciate a Lady who finds pleasure in giving service an encounter with a Chinese Medicine Doctor some years ago opened my eyes to the delights of the Erotic East...As a young Man the Abdication of Edward the King Emperor was fresh in the minds of people around me,he gave up an Empire,at that time,the Worlds greatest economy for a rather plain Jewish Divorcee...Why? because for a few mispent years she had visited Shanghai Bordellos to learn the Ancient Art of pleasuring a Man...She had learned the Shanghai Squeeze,the art of controlling an ejaculation by subtle pressure on the Sphincter and more...For one brief Afternoon I was also an Emperor,scales were lifted from my eyes....A woman doesn't have to be young,nor beautiful to please me and be valued as long as she is willing to learn.
 

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Hi BeExcellent,
@Scaramouche...Oh that will never do,call me Scarra,all my friends do....Yes since being "debauched" at 12 by Older Boys who got a vicarious thrill out of sharing a Gang bang with two young guys...I enjoyed the experience and from the age of 16 have always had an active Svex life....I like Women,can't live without them,the great thing is it gets easier and easier as the the aging demographic tilts things your way....Your own Ben Franklin had a penchant for Older Women wrote an essay on the little Darlings,he also opined that in aging the only thing you may rely on is a Good Woman an Old Dog and cash at the Bank...thanks to the grace of God I have all this and am grateful....Sure I am a Philander,there are 134 Synonyms for this word,one being a Don Juan,suggests the phenomena is very wide spread...These days I appreciate a Lady who finds pleasure in giving service an encounter with a Chinese Medicine Doctor some years ago opened my eyes to the delights of the Erotic East...As a young Man the Abdication of Edward the King Emperor was fresh in the minds of people around me,he gave up an Empire,at that time,the Worlds greatest economy for a rather plain Jewish Divorcee...Why? because for a few mispent years she had visited Shanghai Bordellos to learn the Ancient Art of pleasuring a Man...She had learned the Shanghai Squeeze,the art of controlling an ejaculation by subtle pressure on the Sphincter and more...For one brief Afternoon I was also an Emperor,scales were lifted from my eyes....A woman doesn't have to be young,nor beautiful to please me and be valued as long as she is willing to learn.
You are kind my dear Scarra. Your contribution is valuable. For myself and others. Thank you :)
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I want it but women seem to sense when I’m with a girl and back tf off. Happens all the time.
 

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Hi BeExcellent,
@Scaramouche...Oh that will never do,call me Scarra,all my friends do....Yes since being "debauched" at 12 by Older Boys who got a vicarious thrill out of sharing a Gang bang with two young guys...I enjoyed the experience and from the age of 16 have always had an active Svex life....I like Women,can't live without them,the great thing is it gets easier and easier as the the aging demographic tilts things your way....Your own Ben Franklin had a penchant for Older Women wrote an essay on the little Darlings,he also opined that in aging the only thing you may rely on is a Good Woman an Old Dog and cash at the Bank...thanks to the grace of God I have all this and am grateful....Sure I am a Philander,there are 134 Synonyms for this word,one being a Don Juan,suggests the phenomena is very wide spread...These days I appreciate a Lady who finds pleasure in giving service an encounter with a Chinese Medicine Doctor some years ago opened my eyes to the delights of the Erotic East...As a young Man the Abdication of Edward the King Emperor was fresh in the minds of people around me,he gave up an Empire,at that time,the Worlds greatest economy for a rather plain Jewish Divorcee...Why? because for a few mispent years she had visited Shanghai Bordellos to learn the Ancient Art of pleasuring a Man...She had learned the Shanghai Squeeze,the art of controlling an ejaculation by subtle pressure on the Sphincter and more...For one brief Afternoon I was also an Emperor,scales were lifted from my eyes....A woman doesn't have to be young,nor beautiful to please me and be valued as long as she is willing to learn.
Poetic
 

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What I have observed in every player/playboy type I’ve ever known, is that they all typically give up that lifestyle in time and find a stable LTR or get married even. They may chase tail for years or even decades but in time they want more meaningful connection than an endless rotation of women provides.
Your observation is valid. Caleb Jones (Alpha Male 2.0, Blackdragon) had a similar observation in this 2015 article.


3. Be a player forever

This option means you stay in Charlie Harper mode forever, well in your old age, even as a very old man, eventually switching to paid sugar babies or hookers as your looks deteriorate.

This option is barely worth talking about because very few men will choose this option. The vast majority will chose to settle down and pair bond in some form or fashion. Regardless, it’s still an option technically.

The only big problem with this option is loneliness. I have never seen a guy choose this option and not wrestle with recurrent feelings of loneliness. Some form of pair bonding is more conducive to long-term happiness for a man, particularly as he gets past age 35.
The men who have stronger seduction skills eventually get a motivation to pursue a more meaningful connection with a woman as they age and this typically starts around one's early to mid 30s.

The men who aren't player/playboy types have weaker seduction abilities and often have a blue pill ideology. Most of these men will end up in a marriage by their 30s, usually with one of the few women who they can seduce with their meager attraction/seduction skills. These men are often called betas and often end up divorced somewhere in middle age and around the time their first child gets into elementary school.

Spinning plates is:

-exhausting
-expensive
-demoralizing
-time consuming
-hard keep track of everything you talk about with each girl
-leads to errors since you are likely to treat each girl the same (which is a critical mistake)
-unnecessary to cultivate abundance

True abundance comes from the self-assurance that you know you can find another, better girl.
Part of this is true. The player lifestyle is often exhausting, expensive, and demoralizing.

Few men can get the confidence and self-assurance without having had a track record of seducing many women. The seductions don't necessarily need to be simultaneous but a man with a poor history of attracting and seducing women will often lack confidence.
 

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I don't 'spin plates'. I just have multiple lovers. Different approach, way less 'exhausting'.
I like your approach on ‘lovers’

I somehow just find ways into a woman’s heart where they know I can’t be committed. I just need to give them the time and attention to be with me. One of the lovers has been with me for 2.5 years and the other 2 being over a year. They know they aren’t the only ones and do bring it up from time to time, but they still stick around.
 

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Spinning plates is:

-exhausting
-expensive
-demoralizing
-time consuming
Enjoying the company of multiple women is similar to being a Hezbollah operative, tasked with regularly raining rockets down on a neighboring state... IT can be exhausting, if you don't find immense enjoyment in doing such a thing
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hi Jhonny,
This quote was from Benjamin Franklin,advising a younger Man on selection of a Mistress....But I agree with him,I have five Kids,one is a delight,she could be relied upon,the others in varying degrees are disappointing...But then being fair about it,I probably reaped that which I sowed!
 

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The way to gain experience is to have as many bodycount, as many relationships at once, and as much variety as possible.
So a man should have this in his life.
If not in his 20's, well, do in your 30's, but you need to have a period of this aboundance.
But a lifestyle based on it, it's unrealistic.
How many years would be enough to gain experience, would be an interesting number to know
 

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If you mean 'gain experience' with 'nothing surprises me anymore', I'd say 7.3 years. Approximately.
There you have it. Set your timer boys....you should each emerge from your cocoon some 7 years hence as erudite gentlemen well versed in the seductive arts.

Cheers
 

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Definitely agree that a man should find a deep, emotional, loving connection with ONE women and commit to her forever and ever and ever.

I only have one condition: The man is allowed to have a young hot mistress on the side to make love to on the weekends, preferably hot Chinese or South Korean.
 

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Definitely agree that a man should find a deep, emotional, loving connection with ONE women and commit to her forever and ever and ever.

I only have one condition: The man is allowed to have a young hot mistress on the side to make love to on the weekends, preferably hot Chinese or South Korean.
Simple. Combine young hottie with deep loving emotional connection. Those girls get wifed up young boys. And typically don't come back on the market unless the husband dies or does something dumb, like cheat.
 

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Quality Over quantity it's important. I rather have a woman who checks most of my list than have 4 women who bring little value besides sex(was there this summer what a waste of time).
Plus this! Personally, I've also noticed that I tend to attract certain kinds of women, mostly engaged or married women—especially older women friends I've met in my teens. This should mean something about me, but I still have to figure it out.
 

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“Spinning plates” has its benefits. I’ve found that whenever I get out of an LTR, I typically do nothing and reset for a couple of months right after. Then, I will go for about 6-12 months of “spinning plates” and seeing multiple women at once. It’s exhilarating and helps me reset my brain to stop focusing on the one I just lost.

I do agree with others it’s exhausting at the same time, especially when there’s so much going on in my life outside of women and dating. Seeing 2-3 women at once requires time and energy. I typically start to look to trim it down to one woman after about the one year mark. But it certainly is always a fun ride and recommend it to anyone coming out of an LTR. I can see why some guys would always perpetually do it as well.
 
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It depends on your overall success level and good looks - if you have both looks and money, then love of many women will come easily - then the choice between lifestyles may be considered as real because you can easily interest multiple hq (or at least good looking) women in yourself.

If you are average in money/success or looks, it's better to concentrate on having a stable relationship with a single high quality woman, having children with her and not getting divorce-raped for your own convenience because otherwise the choice will be between that and plowing "market returned" 3/10s to 6/10's females - any female that is objectively higher than that either enters into LTR rather fast or is warming bed of more successful guy hoping he will treat her as gf beyond it - the overall pay-off is usually greater on the monogamous side (which most of us understand intuitively).

So I agree there is a real, dichotomic choice between one and the other - but this choice depends on your SMV. If you cannot objectively assess your SMV you will end up plowing three or four 3/10's to 5/20's in the same time, calling them "plates". Now, I agree that 5/10 may be considered a "plate" - everyone of us eats from time to time something that is perfectly average. However, do you really want to eat a dish that is below-average? Is it worth the hassle? For me it's a rhetorical question.
 
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