Someone explain to me why Incels are so heavily involved in discussions about game/dating/sex.

[Bigpapa]

This is the issue, a lot of incels possess an unhealthy amount of narcissism, victim complex and psychopathy in them to the point it makes them unattractive with most women and provides inaction

This is solid gold

the same I would say about guys who are obsessed with f8cking ( except the victim complex ofc )

 

[Bigpapa]

you're in the minority.
When I read pickup and redpill forums and/or reddit subs etc, it seems like every guy has a strong need to let everyone know that they are an alpha male in every post. It honestly makes me giggle when I read posts like that.

you know, one thing is to be focus on being the alpha male and a totally different thing is to actually be one

real alpha males are actually relaxed and rarely want to demonstrate something to someone

especially in now days, being relaxed is a strong tale if someone is really high value or not

 

[member160292]

you know, one thing is to be focus on being the alpha male and a totally different thing is to actually be one

real alpha males are actually relaxed and rarely want to demonstrate something to someone

especially in now days, being relaxed is a strong tale if someone is really high value or not

There’s many here that get easily offended and quick to counter-argue. Tooting their alfalfa maleness

 

[CollegeMan22]

There’s many here that get easily offended and quick to counter-argue. Tooting their alfalfa maleness

Many of the arguments on here would end better if no one replied to the troll or debby downer. I think it is stronger to not reply to someone than to instinctively react and try to defend yourself. The need to defend your beliefs to an anonymous, online presence means that you do not hold your belief strong — you are insecure about it.

 

[characternote]

There’s many here that get easily offended and quick to counter-argue. Tooting their alfalfa maleness

As an alpha male, I probably agree.....

 

[SW15]

It's like most of these dudes are convinced that something about themselves they cannot change will forever stop them from getting laid and doing well with women.

Here is where I get lost.

Why not just move on?

So why not just give up entirely and dedicate your life to something else?

Why not just butt out of all of these discussions and all of these things centering around game, sex, and dating and just go focus on something else entirely?

The biggest problem with this idea of moving on is that it is not possible to do from a mental health standpoint and not in line with human nature.

Psychologist Abraham Maslow created Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. According to this model below, sex is a basic human need. Maslow believed that if a human cannot satisfy their needs on a certain level of the pyramid, they cannot consider other hierarchical elements. Incels are lacking sex, one of the most basic human needs. The lack of one of the most basic human needs makes achieving that need the sole focus of their lives.

 

[corrector]

The biggest problem with this idea of moving on is that it is not possible to do from a mental health standpoint and not in line with human nature.

Psychologist Abraham Maslow created Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. According to this model below, sex is a basic human need. Maslow believed that if a human cannot satisfy their needs on a certain level of the pyramid, they cannot consider other hierarchical elements. Incels are lacking sex, one of the most basic human needs. The lack of one of the most basic human needs makes achieving that need the sole focus of their lives.

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You are confusing sexual intimacy with sexual need. Baseline sexual need (which a voluntary celibate may choose not to do anything about) can be satisfied with fapping, sex-toys (fleshlight, sex-dolls, whatever), or hiring an escort. Afterall, it's just a physiological bodily release you are comparing to the other biological functions (which don't need a partner to facilitate them). Again it's arguable because you would actually die if you stopped breathing for 6 minutes, if you stopped eating for a long-time, within days to a week if you stopped drinking, sleep-deprived people can't function and eventually die as well, if you don't excrete you are also in trouble, that leaves sex and homeostatis. People choose not to have sex and guess what, nothing happens with them. In fact, if you don't fap even and stay celebate then there is no physical break-down.

Sexual intimacy belongs to love/belonging and is the third need up that pyramid. Otherwise, it doesn't fit the way you are portraying it. I'd say other issues, like notch-counts, conquests, is even higher up that pyramid and is more likely "esteem".

 

[SW15]

The guy who faps all the time to OnlyFans or PornHub is not the most mentally healthy guy out there. An orgasm from sex and an orgasm from masturbation are not the same thing.

 

[corrector]

The guy who faps all the time to OnlyFans or PornHub is not the most mentally healthy guy out there. An orgasm from sex and an orgasm from masturbation are not the same thing.

Which is why they are in different categories on the pyramid. There is no true psysiological difference if an orgasm happens. The quality of the orgasm is irrelevant to a purely psysiological process. It's only relevent to a higher echelon of need. Otherwise, what does sexual intimacy mean in level # 3?

 

[Bigpapa]

The biggest problem with this idea of moving on is that it is not possible to do from a mental health standpoint and not in line with human nature.

Psychologist Abraham Maslow created Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. According to this model below, sex is a basic human need. Maslow believed that if a human cannot satisfy their needs on a certain level of the pyramid, they cannot consider other hierarchical elements. Incels are lacking sex, one of the most basic human needs. The lack of one of the most basic human needs makes achieving that need the sole focus of their lives.

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if you were a woman, would you bang you?

this is the ultimate question

if the answer is no, then it means that you still have to develop yourself physically, socially and spiritually further, otherwise the complains are not justified

Otherwise you are as delusional as an ugly women who demand male models

 

[Gamisch]

you're in the minority.
When I read pickup and redpill forums and/or reddit subs etc, it seems like every guy has a strong need to let everyone know that they are an alpha male in every post. It honestly makes me giggle when I read posts like that.

The irony is that its just a kind of insecurity and desperate need for validation and is coming from someone who is kind of the opposite of an actual 'alpha'. Imagine this persons friend group and having to hear them refer to themselves as an alpha male down the pub every 20 mins!! lol

Imo it's not strange that on a seduction forum men attemp to be alpha or whatever. Its a man space. Men among each other will act like peacocks.

And it's healthy. Lets say someone says he went doing cold approach at a party and he shares some success stories. For all we know he's making it all up. That doesn't even matter, it can still be inspirational and trigger the next man to take action. At the end we all remember what we think is beneficial for us.

In my culture Alpha/beta is really a thing. I always detested this as I am more of an introvert, but lately as I'm getting older i start to embrace it more. Imo its important to strive to be at least the Alpha of your own universe, doesn't matter who or what follows after that.

But that's me.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

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Which is why they are in different categories on the pyramid. There is no true psysiological difference if an orgasm happens. The quality of the orgasm is irrelevant to a purely psysiological process. It's only relevent to a higher echelon of need. Otherwise, what does sexual intimacy mean in level # 3?

Which is why they are in different categories on the pyramid. There is no true psysiological difference if an orgasm happens. The quality of the orgasm is irrelevant to a purely psysiological process. It's only relevent to a higher echelon of need. Otherwise, what does sexual intimacy mean in level # 3?

 

[NealIRC]

I'm curious to know, what do women actually know about incels? What kind of stereotype beliefs do women have on them?

 

[CornbreadFed]

I'm curious to know, what do women actually know about incels? What kind of stereotype beliefs do women have on them?

they aren’t good lol

 

[NealIRC]

they aren’t good lol

Yea, but do they have a narrow view of incels, or do they think incels can be broadly different? Ask around...

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yea, but do they have a narrow view of incels, or do they think incels can be broadly different? Ask around...

pretty narrow but it’s not like incels are helping their case either.

 

[corrector]

Yea, but do they have a narrow view of incels, or do they think incels can be broadly different? Ask around...

You can find that on reddits/quoras/enotalone/ pretty much any site that is out there. They view incels as feeling entitled to a woman when we/they should just roll-over and die. They just hate us. Any expression that you want a woman is anti-feminist to them.

 

[NealIRC]

You can find that on reddits/quoras/enotalone/ pretty much any site that is out there. They view incels as feeling entitled to a woman when we/they should just roll-over and die. They just hate us. Any expression that you want a woman is anti-feminist to them.

Cool, here's an opposite response I got elsewhere:

Most women don't realize incels exist. They think all virgins are by choice, either for religious or health reasons.

 

[corrector]

Cool, here's an opposite response I got elsewhere:

Most women don't realize incels exist. They think all virgins are by choice, either for religious or health reasons.

From where? Sounds like an old website you discovered from the late-90s.

 

[NealIRC]

From where? Sounds like an old website you discovered from the late-90s.

No another forum. 1 with less rules.