Someone explain to me why Incels are so heavily involved in discussions about game/dating/sex.

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Incels are going to exist no matter what are the circumstances. This is why this forum, books, gurus, and all these self-help books exist.
I don't think they should not read the forum; they should. But opine on subjects they only know the theory on?

Really, no, they should not.
 

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I don't know. Don't really care. I think of this forum as a kind of 'all purpose' forum. A place to shoot the $hit. It's not as though people come here to 'learn', really. There's basically nothing TO learn. It's all terribly obvious. (hit gym, get as attractive and rich as possible, hit on girls, bang the ones who like you back). Plus nobody knows who they're talking too. Basically every poster refers to themselves as a dominant 'alpha male' super stud in most posts, but more than likely they're just regular guys banging a 5 here and there tbh. Don't' take any of it seriously

I guess one can know all the answers but still never get laid (probably applies to the incels we have on here?). They've read the mysterymethod and watch coach redpill on youtube or whatever, so they offer advice when they know the answers to others questions?

If you are some old, physically unattractive guy you have zero chance of banging hot 18 year olds (outside of paying them), but you still know what guys they like and how to get them and what to do (so they offer advice to others?)

Maybe it's like a boxing coach who knows it all (thus he coaches fighters) but isn't a good fighter haha
 

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I don't know. Don't really care. I think of this forum as a kind of 'all purpose' forum. A place to shoot the $hit. It's not as though people come here to 'learn', really. There's basically nothing TO learn. It's all terribly obvious. (hit gym, get as attractive and rich as possible, hit on girls, bang the ones who like you back). Plus nobody knows who they're talking too. Basically every poster refers to themselves as a dominant 'alpha male' super stud in most posts, but more than likely they're just regular guys banging a 5 here and there tbh. Don't' take any of it seriously

I guess one can know all the answers but still never get laid (probably applies to the incels we have on here?). They've read the mysterymethod and watch coach redpill on youtube or whatever, so they offer advice when they know the answers to others questions?

If you are some old, physically unattractive guy you have zero chance of banging hot 18 year olds (outside of paying them), but you still know what guys they like and how to get them and what to do (so they offer advice to others?)

Maybe it's like a boxing coach who knows it all (thus he coaches fighters) but isn't a good fighter haha
You get laid in intervals greater or less than 6 months.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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I think those Incels are quite rare these days. The typical Incel these days is nothing like you may have been used to on this forum. The typical Incel is far more sinister and far beyond help for this place or really any other place. A good example is Eliot Rodger, that is the kind of Incel I am talking about and the community he came out of.
This is the issue, a lot of incels possess an unhealthy amount of narcissism, victim complex and psychopathy in them to the point it makes them unattractive with most women and provides inaction. You offer them advice and they immediately respond back with But Chad or But 6ft.


Do what the men in Japan do and turn into videogame addicted herbivores.
Japan offers an environment much more suited for strong introverts compared to the US.
 

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You offer them advice and they immediately respond back with But Chad or But 6ft.
For the record, I have never said this with @SW15, @characternote, @Mike32ct, @mikedee, @DonJuanjr and a number of other people on here that I know are normies and are non-chads. Also I've never really said this with @Gamisch either.

You get one or two people who don't seem to get it that start ganging up on my posts and their posts seem to indicate that they have an easy time meeting women and getting action, then how is it wrong to make conclusions about some of the posters being chad/chadlite?
 

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Corrector you still haven't answered the question of this thread and your are the spokesman for the Incel Club. The answer you gave was childish. Shows more stunted development, imagine that.
 

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I think those Incels are quite rare these days. The typical Incel these days is nothing like you may have been used to on this forum. The typical Incel is far more sinister and far beyond help for this place or really any other place. A good example is Eliot Rodger, that is the kind of Incel I am talking about and the community he came out of.

Unfortunately, those are what most incels are these days. Hateful towards society, victim mentality, self-loathing mindset, and a parasite that just needs to infect every area it can. At its worst, they turn into school shooters like Eliot did.

You cannot reason with them, you cannot help them, and you cannot in any way show them the way. They are beyond help.

My whole reason for this thread is why these things cannot just move on from game and dating if they have given up. Why do they continue to discuss it and infiltrate discussions around it. Why do they continue to spread nonsense like the black pill.

My take is that they should just give up all discussions, thoughts, and anything of the sort around women altogether and get into a non-sexual hobby.

Do what the men in Japan do and turn into videogame addicted herbivores.
Admittedly, I don't know a lot of incels personally. My social circle is about 50/50 between married guys and then guys who have moderate to high success with dating women. The guy I mentioned previously is one of my best friends from childhood, but he is probably the only guy I know that I would consider "incel." That said, my experience with most of "incels" here is that they typically are open to discussion and ideas. I am not going to go through and name names of posters who are or who are not open-minded, but again, I think it is a small collection that are as you describe (completely toxic and talk like know-it-alls).
 

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You get one or two people who don't seem to get it that start ganging up on my posts and their posts seem to indicate that they have an easy time meeting women and getting action, then how is it wrong to make conclusions about some of the posters being chad/chadlite?
Ok, I'll spell it out:

1. Does it not bother you that you may be giving incorrect advice to men, given that you answer authoritatively in areas you have no experience in?
2. It seems that in your mind, any man that experiences more success with women than you do is a Chad/lite. It looks like a way to excuse your lack of progress and make changes in your life that you self-admittedly need to work on, pigeonholing others instead of taking a long hard look at yourself.

So what's up with that?
 

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So I rather hang with an reliable ,trustworthy incel than a sneaky, unreliable wingman who'd feck your wife and even your mother if he had the chance
lol, my friends group is fairly mixed, but I kind of know what you mean.
I've got a few slayer friends who would steal the girl off any mofo here if they wanted too.
I've got a few incel friends,
And then i've got a load of friends who fall somewhere in the middle (some of who read PUA material etc. They know all the theory, but of course it generally doesn't work since we all know that 'game' is futile if you are not her type)

The 3rd group are the ones who tend to be annoying wingmen or company in general (if women are involved). They just get weird around girls, do anything to try to get the lay and even destroy my sets (since they are generally only brave when it comes too appoaching if the set is already open thanks to me! haha)

With my slayer friends it's all good. One in particular used to actively help get me laid. Helped me get my notch count up a tonnw when I was a bit younger. He had so many options that he wouldn't dream of trying to steal a girl I was hitting on. Instead he was the one being approached! (although on a few occasions it happened through no fault of his own. There's been times i'm basically making out with a girl, seeding the pull, then she noticed my hot friend and then ditches me to try to seduce him!). But in general, I like gaming with these guys

And my incel friends are actually generally pretty chill. Certainly NOT the Elliott Rodger types! Someone mentioned earlier about how some dudes just seem to really not care about girls etc. They've basically admitted defeat and know that there's no way they can bang hot young girls without paying for it as they're just too old and ugly, and even though some have money, they have no interest in being a sugar daddy and genuinely seem happy enough with their other hobbies etc.
 
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Ok, I'll spell it out:

1. Does it not bother you that you may be giving incorrect advice to men, given that you answer authoritatively in areas you have no experience in?
2. It seems that in your mind, any man that experiences more success with women than you do is a Chad/lite. It looks like a way to excuse your lack of progress and make changes in your life that you self-admittedly need to work on, pigeonholing others instead of taking a long hard look at yourself.

So what's up with that?
Re-read my post you are replying to.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I don't know. Don't really care. I think of this forum as a kind of 'all purpose' forum. A place to shoot the $hit. It's not as though people come here to 'learn', really. There's basically nothing TO learn. It's all terribly obvious. (hit gym, get as attractive and rich as possible, hit on girls, bang the ones who like you back). Plus nobody knows who they're talking too. Basically every poster refers to themselves as a dominant 'alpha male' super stud in most posts, but more than likely they're just regular guys banging a 5 here and there tbh. Don't' take any of it seriously

I guess one can know all the answers but still never get laid (probably applies to the incels we have on here?). They've read the mysterymethod and watch coach redpill on youtube or whatever, so they offer advice when they know the answers to others questions?

If you are some old, physically unattractive guy you have zero chance of banging hot 18 year olds (outside of paying them), but you still know what guys they like and how to get them and what to do (so they offer advice to others?)

Maybe it's like a boxing coach who knows it all (thus he coaches fighters) but isn't a good fighter haha
I am not a ‘dominant alpha male’. Sadly.
 

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You got shadowbanned on dating apps and have recently tried unsuccesfully on Seeking Arrangements (ie which you've given up on game if you went there as going pay4play is "giving up") and now you are making up this post. You are seriously hemmoraging rep points.
At least he is honest

all guys run through a rough patch from time to time

it should not be something that a guy should be ashamed of
 

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At least he is honest

all guys run through a rough patch from time to time

it should not be something that a guy should be ashamed of
Continue reading the thread to the end as everything you have replied to has already been dealt with between JP and myself.
 

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I am not a ‘dominant alpha male’. Sadly.
you're in the minority.
When I read pickup and redpill forums and/or reddit subs etc, it seems like every guy has a strong need to let everyone know that they are an alpha male in every post. It honestly makes me giggle when I read posts like that.

The irony is that its just a kind of insecurity and desperate need for validation and is coming from someone who is kind of the opposite of an actual 'alpha'. Imagine this persons friend group and having to hear them refer to themselves as an alpha male down the pub every 20 mins!! lol
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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