So I rather hang with an reliable ,trustworthy incel than a sneaky, unreliable wingman who'd feck your wife and even your mother if he had the chance
lol, my friends group is fairly mixed, but I kind of know what you mean.
I've got a few slayer friends who would steal the girl off any mofo here if they wanted too.
I've got a few incel friends,
And then i've got a load of friends who fall somewhere in the middle (some of who read PUA material etc. They know all the theory, but of course it generally doesn't work since we all know that 'game' is futile if you are not her type)
The 3rd group are the ones who tend to be annoying wingmen or company in general (if women are involved). They just get weird around girls, do anything to try to get the lay and even destroy my sets (since they are generally only brave when it comes too appoaching if the set is already open thanks to me! haha)
With my slayer friends it's all good. One in particular used to actively help get me laid. Helped me get my notch count up a tonnw when I was a bit younger. He had so many options that he wouldn't dream of trying to steal a girl I was hitting on. Instead he was the one being approached! (although on a few occasions it happened through no fault of his own. There's been times i'm basically making out with a girl, seeding the pull, then she noticed my hot friend and then ditches me to try to seduce him!). But in general, I like gaming with these guys
And my incel friends are actually generally pretty chill. Certainly NOT the Elliott Rodger types! Someone mentioned earlier about how some dudes just seem to really not care about girls etc. They've basically admitted defeat and know that there's no way they can bang hot young girls without paying for it as they're just too old and ugly, and even though some have money, they have no interest in being a sugar daddy and genuinely seem happy enough with their other hobbies etc.