Someone explain to me why Incels are so heavily involved in discussions about game/dating/sex.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Monkey see, monkey do.

Other individuals my lost friend. I never called out one incel in particular other than making an example of wheat waffles and when I did, I tied it into a larger issue with society. This post was that of genuine curiosity, not sure why you decided to go off on me.

 

[corrector]

I am not kicking down the incel who is trying to genuinely improve his life, I should have clarified that.

Yes, you should have clarified that. Noted.

 

[corrector]

not sure why you decided to go off on me.

It would be a boring thread otherwise.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

It would be a boring thread otherwise.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Incels are, by definition, unable to get laid.
Getting laid/ONS is ‘that hard’ for many. as an example;
My friends & I are gamers geeks & have been going to local game conventions for years. I have gotten lays from those conventions. I do nor know of any other guys at these conventions who gets a ‘convention lay’. By no means are they all incels. Many are married/relationship. But. If it weren’t ‘that hard’. there would be more hookups.

I don't think your friends care about getting laid. Even in my dark incel days, I was getting some action once every 3 months.

 

[corrector]

I don't think your friends care about getting laid. Even in my dark incel days, I was getting some action once every 3 months.

How did you get that action? The definiton is technically over 6 months so once in 3 wont make the cut. Of course his frienda wanted to get laid. His friend was rejected by a stripper who did not even want his money!

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

To add to the discussion:

what qualifies a self-described incel to offer advice about women, relationships, dating, seduction and sex? And why do so many of the forum incels/black pill crowd repeatedly try to offer advice on subjects they are utter failures in?

The question is mostly rhetorical.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

How did you get that action? The definiton is technically over 6 months so once in 3 wont make the cut. Of course his frienda wanted to get laid. His friend was rejected by a stripper who did not even want his money!

Yes. my friends do want to get action. And it isn’t 3 or 6 months. I seriously believe some are virgins. And they’re middle aged. My ‘strip club’ buddy definitely wants action.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

To add to the discussion:

what qualifies a self-described incel to offer advice about women, relationships, dating, seduction and sex? And why do so many of the forum incels/black pill crowd repeatedly try to offer advice on subjects they are utter failures in?

The question is mostly rhetorical.

Black Pill does not equal incel. Black Pill is just recognition that looks are the primary factor in attraction. (a Black Pill purist would argue it is the only factor.). I am not a purist. I believe a Black Piller can offer advice. Particularly in regards to looksmaxxing. An Incel. not so much.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Black Pill does not equal incel. Black Pill is just recognition that looks are the primary factor in attraction. (a Black Pill purist would argue it is the only factor.). I am not a purist. I believe a Black Piller can offer advice. Particularly in regards to looksmaxxing. An Incel. not so much.

Yes I’ve conflated both given one is a gateway drug to the other. In general though they are often one and the same.

 

[CornbreadFed]

How did you get that action? The definiton is technically over 6 months so once in 3 wont make the cut. Of course his frienda wanted to get laid. His friend was rejected by a stripper who did not even want his money!

The happiest time of my life was when I was in late middle school/early high school coming home from school and playing xbox live during it's peak. I was also a virgin then. The saddest time of my life was when I was getting those one-night stands once every 3 months. I think the longest dry spell I ever had was a year after losing my virginity, but I got a few hookups then. I would much rather be a curious/clueless virgin then get teased with one night stands every couple of months and constantly be thirsting for more.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Yes I’ve conflated both given one is a gateway drug to the other. In general though they are often one and the same.

I’m not an incel by any means. But I have observed that the Black Pill has some strong validity. However, I hold many Red Pill beliefs as well.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Personally I don’t subscribe to any one ideology, yes much of my belief set is based on what was traditionally called red pill, but I don’t like the limitations the label seems to imply.

I’m much more pragmatic - and institute practice based knowledge in my approach with women. I do what works.

What does chafe is when I am handing out advice that is based on experience and I get dismissed as a chad-chadlite by a Bp/incel/whatever defeatist with their dead end vitriol.

I am not a chad by any means, but I’m killing it.

BECAUSE I PUT IN THE EFFORT TO MAKE MYSELF SUCCESSFUL.

I’m not an incel by any means. But I have observed that the Black Pill has some strong validity. However, I hold many Red Pill beliefs as well.

 

[Learning Curve]

Most guys like my self come from dysfunctional f3ucked up families. They never had a quality relationship in their life with a hot 10.

When they see guys outside doing well, and banging chicks they would only dream-off this triggers a response of them wanting the same results. Hence the research starts of how to attract women, this has a very strong effect on guys who have zero clue how to attract women.

I find this quite normal, and i support anyone who wants to learn how to attract women. This should be in some-ones playbook if he wants to replicate and have a long term future with his kids not ending up being used and manipulated by the today's society which has all the women feminized and with a handbook of rules "don't kiss the first guy on a date" "don't **** a fist guy on a date" "play it hard to get" "show you are funny" "let him work for you".

All this bull crap which I'm tired of.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

1. Because they invade almost every online space to spread their lies

2. Because they have nonsense channels which are gaining large followings and causing shootings to happen (ie: Wheat Waffles)

3. Because they are corrupting the minds of young men who can be saved with LMS black pill nonsense

Just to name a few.

A lot of content out there I disagree with or don't like but I just "change the channel."

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

To add to the discussion:

what qualifies a self-described incel to offer advice about women, relationships, dating, seduction and sex? And why do so many of the forum incels/black pill crowd repeatedly try to offer advice on subjects they are utter failures in?

The question is mostly rhetorical.

There we go. The point I was trying to drive home as well. Why is it that long essays on attraction theory are written by dudes who have confessed to themselves that they suck with women?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The

Personally I don’t subscribe to any one ideology, yes much of my belief set is based on what was traditionally called red pill, but I don’t like the limitations the label seems to imply.

I’m much more pragmatic - and institute practice based knowledge in my approach with women. I do what works.

What does chafe is when I am handing out advice that is based on experience and I get dismissed as a chad-chadlite by a Bp/incel/whatever defeatist with their dead end vitriol.

I am not a chad by any means, but I’m killing it.

BECAUSE I PUT IN THE EFFORT TO MAKE MYSELF SUCCESSFUL.

Effort trumps everything. Even looks. I have seen it.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I have a friend that has been cheated on by every girl he has dated and struggles maintain any long existing relationship. He will be the first one to tell you what women want lol.

 

[NealIRC]

I'm telling you, the friendzone is the best place to be with women. In relationships, then it's a power-struggle, the whole do you like her more or does she like you more type sht.

 

[Barrister]

OP,

An incel who is actually trying is worth having here. Learning how game works and understanding female nature (along with bouncing back after a bad breakup and exchanging field reports) is probably one of if not THE primary purposes of SS. Generally, this place is to help men out with women. I agree that the guys who just complain nonstop and don't listen are annoying, but I think those guys are a very small, albeit vocal, minority. But regardless, there is nothing inherently wrong with incels being part of this community. They are wired just like we are and WANT to have sex with women.

One of my very best friends IRL who is like a brother to me is what I would consider an incel. He hasn't had a relationship since a high school girlfriend almost 20 years ago. I doubt he has been sexually active in that time. And he honestly isn't a bad looking guy. But I envision him being here. He wouldn't know anything about attracting women and he lacks confidence in even speaking to them. But if he wanted to get better, this place would be a great starting point for a guy like him. He is a guy I would want to help. Everyone has to start somewhere.