I liked the point
@Maxtro made about mixers/events, because I started a thread about mixers/events in July 2022, just over a month ago.
Maxtro has the same type of issues and personality as
@Zimbabwe. He had like a black lady friend but I'm not sure if he went anywhere with her or if he was just friendzoned. He was of the fat sort and had allot of negative threads at the time, in a similar way as
@Zimbabwe does now. In some ways he reminds me of
@Zimbabwe, more of an 2011's incarnation of him if you are able read his posts. It just shows allot of issues are not new but are timeless.
You had fitness classes 10 years ago, and you have them today. If one is sensitive to covid and the pandemic, then I can see that one may not be keen to want to go into groups because maybe one might catch covid from them, etc... I think the pandemic has left a bad taste into group things. If things really get back to normal and the covid threat is gone, then the same freedoms of attending these classes might exist again. Apart from that, I think it's a good venue because women aren't on their smartphones.
Game inefficiency might be alright if it's all you have to work with. You got dates, your rejections there look like they are managed (ie 5 minutes before and 5 minutes afterwards), you can't really get rejected where it leaves a bad taste since you'll move on with your day if it's after the class, or will be engaged with the class if it's before the class. You might get healthy and lose weight or be better off anyway and hit two birds with one stone. In this way, getting a date from a healthy exercise with a tonne of eye-candy is icing on the cake rather than the main event. It adds to your day, it adds to your health, you are around other women, you may get their energy and do cold approaches somewhere else, etc....
SW15 said:
As a whole, almost all bars/nightclubs are going to have excess males. Bars/clubs were the biggest sausage fests until online dating got big, first in the website era (in 2011, when this thread was going) and then in the swipe app era.
The website era was still very bad. Women would flake, go for their chads who would pump & dump them, it's the same dynamic as it is today. Again, they make it sound like the 00s was this last ideal time to meet women, when my memory of that time was it's not that much different than it is today. In many ways I think today is better because you have all these gigantic online communities, videos, and reddits, that YOU CAN'T TAKE WOMEN'S BEHAVIOUR SERIOUSLY period, or personal. Whereas before in the 00s, you might blame your game, confidence, try to see where you went wrong, blame yourself for everything that went wrong, maybe pay money for a bootcamp or dating coaching, whereas now it's a joke. When you see What Waffles videos, how can you take anything seriously?
SW15 said:
It's a tough adjustment to date post-college as compared to college life.
More like a head-long cliff.
SW15 said:
Yes, it is a good idea in the mall to do the whole shopping for a gift for a female sister or cousin thing. Even if the gift buying occasion is fake, the person you mention in the gift buying scenario must be real. You don't want to tell a woman during pickup that you have a sister you're buying a gift for and then she later finds out you don't actually have a sister. I always have used the female cousin excuse. I don't have sisters but I do have a female cousin.
Would this work today or seem disingenuous. People do have smartphones that they can google for answers. Would asking a woman for the date/time as a soft-opener or for advice for buying clothes show that either you don't have a smartphone or don't know how to use one to get the information yourself? Both would indicate a lack of status.