Red Pill Role's - Do Not Overdose

[SamTheHobit]

Fortunate is the man who finds one of the 3% who exhibit a tolerable degree of character.

This quote will become famous one day.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Feel free to go back into that thread and quote me on it pal. Context is everything. I stated that the "day to day" things women do such as sh1t tests, withholding sex, LMR, b1tch shields, etc are NOT manipulative. You disagreed. You believe women seek "power". You take that simple point to the extreme to say "Look ah ha....The exception thinks women are NEVER manipulative". Do I think women have the capability to be manipulative? Sure, everybody does. Im sure women have gotten pregnant on "accident" to get a nice rich guy. Thats not what Im talking about. Chump guys come here to sosuave and complain about the "day to day" sh1t and complain about it. You brush their face and tell them "its ok, women are just trying to manipulate you and make you a slave. Do what I do and never get close to one."

Women absolutely seek power in relationships. Once they're done with the c0ck carousel they need a secure relationship with a man who will never leave. They can only get this from a beta fag who will willingly submit. But beta fags have options too (believe it or not). This is were the manipulation, testing and mind games comes in. They would scare the beta away if they were totally upfront with him from the start.

The goal is security which comes from having power over a man. With no power there is no security.

False. Marriage fails because men turn into vag1nas and their wives no longer find them attractive. You think women really give a sh1t about your loyalty? No they care about if you turn them on or not. The "loyal beta fags" bit....is SPOT ON AND THE REAL REASON for the failure of marriages.

For instance....being a beta male = an obese woman. Those are the two things that repulse the respective gender. Today's marriage situation is equated to if the mass majority of women WERE OBESE....do you think us men wouldnt treat them different than we would have if they were hott? Let that sink in...

This is actually true. Pandering beta faggots let women's anti-social behavior go unchecked. Without consequences.. the behavior gets worse. Like a bratty child.

HOWEVER.. its a chicken or egg argument. What came first? Beta fags or c*nty women? Are women only b!tches because men are faggots? I don't think so. But its part of the problem.

"Loyal beta fag men" never WERE respected. The number of them....have simply increased. I am in a relationship with a woman currently....and guess what? No one is taking advantage of me. I am red pill and am fully aware of society "forcing me" into the beta fag role....problem is....I wont go. Its up to us, as men to change the society. Im sure you are aware of Rollo Tomassi.....hes married. Certainly you wouldnt call one of the best bloggers a beta fag simply because he is married?

Marriage is a fools domain for a man. I don't care who does it. Its beta.

However, I've said many times that not spinning plates or only f*cking one woman doesn't make a man beta. Oneitis is what makes a man beta. It is a form of pedestalization. Its beta no matter who does it. It doesn't stop being beta just because a "red pill" man or high profile man does it.

Alpha is a dynamic thing. Few men spend their entire lives as alphas.

 

[zekko]

To be honest all this red pill stuff is nothing new to anyone who has a clue before hearing the term "red pill" related to whatever they dislike in regards to chicks.

Agree with this. I've never understood why posters on this forum make such a big deal about this "red pill" as if they've turned themselves into Neo just because they've learned what a sh!t test is. Maybe it's because I'm not the biggest Matrix fan in the world. As a movie, I give it an "okay".

Totally agree with the OP. Hypergamy, in one word, pretty much explains the whole lot. Your skill in the game determines whether you are on the good end or the bad end of it.

They say never listen to women's dating advice. But I've always remembered something my mother told me: "Women are fickle". I think that's an even truer statement than "Women are hypergamous" - because women will dump you for another man of equal or less value than you (not just higher value). Once they tire of you, they will go to any guy who stirs some fresh excitement in them. Could be the pool boy, the trash guy, whatever.

Well, you know what? That's life. Nothing is forever. Nobody here is going to live their earthly lives forever either. It doesn't matter how many plates you spin, or how far down the rabbit hole you go, or how far into the "matrix" you think you can see. So man up and deal with it.

 

[HumbleNinja]

Any point you think you made was made 50 posts ago when this mania started with you.

Either the point flew over a few diseased minds or they refuse to aknowledge their own foolery.


I ain't the dude crying over some "BPD" in threads, nor one of the mass amount of dudes who flock to the NC thread yet for some reason cannot implement or stick with it, nor am I one of the Talibanosphere control freaks who complain and attempt to disguise it as "helping" others or simply "informing" them, nor one of the dudes who trips over themselves going after slvts then acting like it isn't their own fault. (How many times does one keep seeking out slvts and not realize THEY just might be the problem?)

Some dudes on here are one more red pill menstruation away from sporting their own vag!na.

 

[Epimanes]

Either the point flew over a few diseased minds or they refuse to aknowledge their own foolery.


I ain't the dude crying over some "BPD" in threads, nor one of the mass amount of dudes who flock to the NC thread yet for some reason cannot implement or stick with it, nor am I one of the Talibanosphere control freaks who complain and attempt to disguise it as "helping" others or simply "informing" them, nor one of the dudes who trips over themselves going after slvts then acting like it isn't their own fault. (How many times does one keep seeking out slvts and not realize THEY just might be the problem?)

Some dudes on here are one more red pill menstruation away from sporting their own vag!na.

Hahahaha omg I almost choked on my coffee right there. Fukin hilarious!
*eats some popcorn*

 

[BeDJ]

This sh!t again, I can't believe my words are being used to support NAWALT propaganda. The same fvcking "You've just been dealing with trash, find a keeper and stop b!tching mantra." Doesn't it spark some curiosity that a ton of men are agreeing about it? Wait, maybe they are just a bunch of whiners and should just Man Up!

Originally Posted by HumbleNinja
To be honest all this red pill stuff is nothing new to anyone who has a clue before hearing the term "red pill" related to whatever they dislike in regards to chicks.

That's biased. You are telling me that toddlers know 10+10 = 20? If that's the case, why do we need diagrams and Skittles to teach them. The amount of men who had their eyes open after being introduced to the red pill far outweight the 'Pfft that's common sense.' Not so humble now, are we?

Totally agree with the OP. Hypergamy, in one word, pretty much explains the whole lot. Your skill in the game determines whether you are on the good end or the bad end of it.

What you are saying is that if a woman cheats on you, it's obvious that you didn't have enough good game to prevent her from doing so.

......

WAKE. THE FVCK.. UP

This is every feminist, mangina, savior of S|utopia argument. It's not the woman's fault, it's the man's fault.

IT'S NOT MY FAULT I SAID FOR BETTER OR WORSE WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT WAS!
IT'S NOT MY FAULT HE GOT UNEMPLOYED AND NOW I HAVE TO SHOP AT WAL-MART!
IT'S NOT MY FAULT FOR LEAVING BECAUSE I WANT A BETTER LIFE!

Women no longer have any accountability and MEN ARE ALLOWING IT TO HAPPEN.

 

[HumbleNinja]

This sh!t again, I can't believe my words are being used to support NAWALT propaganda. The same fvcking "You've just been dealing with trash, find a keeper and stop b!tching mantra." Doesn't it spark some curiosity that a ton of men are agreeing about it? Wait, maybe they are just a bunch of whiners and should just Man Up!

That's biased. You are telling me that toddlers know 10+10 = 20? If that's the case, why do we need diagrams and Skittles to teach them. The amount of men who had their eyes open after being introduced to the red pill far outweight the 'Pfft that's common sense.' Not so humble, are we now?

If some dude who's old enough to join SS isn't aware that men and women get married and it could end in divorce, isn't aware that women lie just like men do, isn't aware that chicks and people in general get influenced by the world around them including TV etc., isn't aware that women have sex just like men do etc...that dudes or dudes have some serious lack of exposure to the outside world period let alone women. Obvious is obvious.

And instead of playing with p0rn diagrams and bags of Red (pill) Skittles in their basement, shouldn't even bother trying to learn to pick up chicks, nor go after them, but seek out some serious mental health counseling instead and possibly seek the authorities (Or Charles Ramsey himself) to investigate the possiblity they were held hostage from life by an unknown captor.

 

[VikingKing]

If some dude who's old enough to join SS isn't aware that men and women get married and it could end in divorce, isn't aware that women lie just like men do, isn't aware that chicks and people in general get influenced by the world around them including TV etc., isn't aware that women have sex just like men do etc...that dudes or dudes have some serious lack of exposure to the outside world period let alone women. Obvious is obvious.

And instead of playing with p0rn diagrams and bags of Red (pill) Skittles in their basement, shouldn't even bother trying to learn to pick up chicks, nor go after them, but seek out some serious mental health counseling instead and possibly seek the authorities (Or Charles Ramsey himself) to investigate the possiblity they were held hostage from life by an unknown captor.

Now wait a second here. A therapist? You mean bartender right?

 

[BeDJ]

If some dude who's old enough to join SS isn't aware that men and women get married and it could end in divorce, isn't aware that women lie just like men do, isn't aware that chicks and people in general get influenced by the world around them including TV etc., isn't aware that women have sex just like men do etc...that dudes or dudes have some serious lack of exposure to the outside world period let alone women. Obvious is obvious.

And instead of playing with p0rn diagrams and bags of Red (pill) Skittles in their basement, shouldn't even bother trying to learn to pick up chicks, nor go after them, but seek out some serious mental health counseling instead and possibly seek the authorities (Or Charles Ramsey himself) to investigate the possiblity they were held hostage from life by an unknown captor.

If you retort to mocking men who are debating your opinion, you know your argument is weak. Stop hanging out with metro-sexuals at high-end department stores, there's more than meets the eye-liner.

To sum up YOUR argument.

Men should know better

Anyone care to debate this claim?

 

[VikingKing]

If you retort to mocking men who are debating your opinion, you know your argument is weak. Stop hanging out with metro-sexuals at high-end department stores, there's more than meets the eye-liner.

To sum up YOUR argument.



Anyone care to debate this claim?

Humble ninja sounds like he is in support of mainstream gender equality, and a liberal.

 

[Don_Dom]

If some dude who's old enough to join SS isn't aware that men and women get married and it could end in divorce, isn't aware that women lie just like men do, isn't aware that chicks and people in general get influenced by the world around them including TV etc., isn't aware that women have sex just like men do etc...that dudes or dudes have some serious lack of exposure to the outside world period let alone women. Obvious is obvious.

And instead of playing with p0rn diagrams and bags of Red (pill) Skittles in their basement, shouldn't even bother trying to learn to pick up chicks, nor go after them, but seek out some serious mental health counseling instead and possibly seek the authorities (Or Charles Ramsey himself) to investigate the possiblity they were held hostage from life by an unknown captor.

When someone suggested in another thread that you were a woman I didn't see it. But I do now. You argue like a chick. Specificly distorting and oversimplifying points that have been made althewhile conveniently skipping over the operative elements of those points, being totally condescending about it in the process, and attempting to use to your distorted version as a shaming tool. Particularly, shaming by insinuating that those making the points you disagree with are of poor upbringing, socially maladjusted or psycologically damaged. All TEXTBOOK chick tactics. Most telling of all, you open by questioning maturity, which is a uniquely female obsession and constant fuel for shaming tactics.

I grew up with the *****iest, meanest **** of a sister and learned very early in life how to argue with women. Little did I know that the joke was on me because there is no point in arguing with women. They are just right because they are right....I guess that's why you start 3 threads a day spewing the same blather over and over. People engage you in legitimate debate in threads and you just repeat yourself over and over. I can smell "chick argument" from a mile away.

I have no idea if you are a woman or not but you most certainly argue like one. If you are a guy, you are the *****iest one I've encountered in quite a long time. That isn't gay, at least. And I'm not even entirely sure about that. Have a bunch of gay friends and only a couple of them argue like girls to the extent that you do.

 

[HumbleNinja]

Humble ninja sounds like he is in support of mainstream gender equality, and a liberal.

In your diseased mind I could be if that's what suits it. Then again...Maybe not..Maybe...just maybe..there are some of us who aren't going to go off the deep end because they can't always have things their way.

If you retort to mocking men who are debating your opinion, you know your argument is weak. Stop hanging out with metro-sexuals at high-end department stores, there's more than meets the eye-liner.

To sum up YOUR argument.



Anyone care to debate this claim?

Hell I mock myself! I'm a 44yo BETA and PROUD virgin! Why is it that "real mens" feewings get hurt so easily on these forums? They can dish it out but can't take it. It's pretty telling sign of just how "Alpha" they really are..

Oh I forgot. No one does that on here. It's only the "beta feminist supporters". lol

I'll continue to hang out with the other "metrosexuals" at high end department stores who actually pick up chicks on a daily basis that never needed or heard of SS rather than hanging out with the "real men" who complain about sht every normal person has already been aware of long ago and succeeds regardless...if that's ok with you PBJ?

 

[VikingKing]

"In your diseased mind I could be if that's what suits it. Then again...Maybe not..Maybe...just maybe..there are some of us who aren't going to go off the deep end because they can't always have things their way."

Like you would know anything about any one on here.

 

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Backfire thread of the year. Ironically the quoted dasein post the OP was trying to "disprove" was the best part of this entire trainwreck.

1. "Bitterness" is a gynoculture word, a shaming term, a semantic nullity. It has no place in any kind of precise language that attempts to describe emotions. You won't hear any scientists, scholars or legitimate thinkers using it, so where did it come from?

"Angry," "annoyed," "frustrated," "unhappy," etc., many better words. So perhaps the first step is to choose a noncompromised vocabulary to describe feelings more precisely and realize there are vocabulary traps set all around us by "blue pill" gynoculture. We haven't really taken the red pill until we have flushed out ALL of the blue conditioning, and that's much more difficult and time-consuming than the "pill taking" analogy suggests.

Almost all of the time I've heard "bitter" being applied has been by a woman to a man or by an effeminate or gay man towards whomever. My male friends and I don't use it... certainly never heard my dad, grandfathers or uncles say it. It is a feminine word and operates as a simple shaming tool. If someone is just angry, they may not be at fault, after all, many situations in life deserve an angry response. If they are 'bitter' though, there is a presumption that their feelings are misplaced and that they share blame for having them. Don't play.

"Bitter" is a taste sensation, people who use it as a "feeling" term generally have manipulative, feminine intent IME. Move past gynoculture language, be it the word "bitter" or otherwise to move past -their- frame towards -your- frame.

BINGO!!!

Gynoculture language. Young manginas and old T level lacking baby boomers eat that sh!t up unfortunately.

Whenever I hear a man parrot back jilted fat chick words, nine times out of ten it's a gimmie I know I'm dealing with an oblivious manboob and thats when the trolling usually commences.

Common gynocentric language :

*Homophobe
*Commitmentphobe
*Wow...just wow
*Ummm
*Not Ok
*Equaaaaality
*Rape culture
*OMG

 

[VikingKing]

Whelp. much as we'd all enjoy seein' somethin' like that, no one cheats the hang man in my town.

Thread is dead.

 

[skinnyguy]

It sounds like the red pill is for men who can't handle women.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Welp this thread escalated quickly.

 

[rascal99v]

40 years ago women had a far greater capacity for rational thought, nurturing, propriety, and dare I say even loyalty. The media has opened the floodgates in them and these admirable qualities have poured out of them en masse, leaving easily 97% of women almost completely bereft of the qualities we men admire.

Atom Smasher is one of my favorite posters on SS. He is always spot on with his advice. He has seen the reformulation of women first hand. He has the knowledge and the experience. You should post more in the forum sir. Theexception is either delusional or has very little experience with women. I know people just like him. They always find out later when their fictional bubble about women bursts.

Backfire thread of the year. Ironically the quoted dasein post the OP was trying to "disprove" was the best part of this entire trainwreck.

Great job pointing that out t!ts. I don't agree with dasein with his misconceptions about the conservative right wing media, but here he is spot on with the using of the word "bitter".

Overdose case # 1

Here is a guy who spends 3 paragraphs on why the word "bitter" should be erased from the dictionary. "Bitter" is a word made up by society and if you use that word you are still blue pill according to dasein. Too much mental masturbating about stupid things. "Bitter" is a synonym for "resentment" pal and congratulations on being "too macho" to use the word. Nobody cares. There are more important things going on here than to nit-pick at select vocabulary.

And notice how he uses the word "shaming". I was once a very strong user of this word, but lately people are destroying it and the purpose it was meant to serve. It originally was to be used AGAINST WOMEN...who would attempt to make a man feel bad about his sexual nature and being. NOW...."red pill extremists" use it against other men because they cant take criticism for their illogical views. One ounce of criticism and they rationalize that the criticism is an attempt to shame them.....pathetic

I don't know, but you sound like a woman. Your threads always take a feministic point of view. Similar to how a proud feminist authors in the articles below. She proudly uses the word "bitter" for her site.


Bitterness by request: The “F” word

http://canbebitter.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/bitterness-by-request-the-f-word/


http://canbebitter.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/i-am-woman-so-dont-call-me-a-female/

 

[backbreaker]

A few random thoughts


1.

40 years ago women had a far greater capacity for rational thought, nurturing, propriety, and dare I say even loyalty. The media has opened the floodgates in them and these admirable qualities have poured out of them en masse, leaving easily 97% of women almost completely bereft of the qualities we men admire.

I don't think it's so much the media as much as it is man's worshiping at the feet of *****.

At the end of the day, a woman is only able to get away with what she is able to get away with.


2. In general I'm a much happier person when I"m busy and don't have time to come here. When i come here and visit after a few days it's like walking tinto a tar pit. This place is ****ing depressing. Which leads to

3. When I first came here, there was no red pill / blue pill, no alpha / beta talk. all that stuff starting popping up 3-4 years ago really. You came here becuase you wanted to have sex with women. No one particularly gave a **** back then the whys of why i'm not getting any or the hows of how society works or anything remotely that deep webish


3. If you are 30 years old, and you come here and you've NEVER had sex... women aren't your problem. you are your problem. and your problems are deeper than understanding what alpha / beta is. i mean, it's pretty hard to go 30 years and not have sex. ever. never getting lucky drug girl. never getting a blow job from a woman from a losing bet.

I don't mean that as a slight, I mean, you aren't going to do anything but make whatever underlying problems you have worse with all this pill talk.


5. I wonder how many people on this forum are truly happy.


6. If you hang around here too long and don't mix this site with some real world/ women speak, you are going to never, ever, EVER be able to get laid because you are going to lose your ability to empathize with women. The guys on this site who bring a feministic point of view to discussions, are doing so (gasp) becuase they real with women! shocking thought I know.


The funny thing is,, that's what "game" is. that's real game. being able to understand where a woman is coming from and use that to your advantage.


7. I had a pretty interesting conversation a few days ago with some people about black women. Anyone who reads my posts know that I'm not particularity happy with the Americanized black woman.

In the middle of the conversation it hit me like a ton of bricks. lol

black women and keyboard jockeys / Red pillers so to speak if you will, are the exact same.

the same reason guys laugh at black women are the exact same reasons that people outside the manophere laugh at red pillers.

A. The black woman does not want to accept mainstream Americanized culture which they see as "white culture". This causes a lot of problems. The majority of well adjusted men, just want a normal american girl. Not a woman who is going to bust their balls about being / not being black enough.

The Red Piller does not want to accept mainstream Americanized culture which they see as "blue pill". This causes a lot of problems. The majority fo well adjusted women, just want a normal american boy. Not a boy who is going to try to maintain alpha status throughout the relationship or plays games


B. Black women blame all black men for a few black men's problems. while at the same time, not being attracted to the ones who don't present these problems

The red piller blames all women for a few women's problems. while at he same time, either not being attractedc to, being scared of or not being in the vicinity of women who don't' present these problem. you deal with trash and wonder why you keep getting up with fleas


C. Most black women aren't feminine enough.

Most Red pillars aren't masculine enough. Most wouldn't know what to do on a squat machine or would not know flaxseed oil is. They have no lives of their own


D. When a black woman sees something she doesn't agree with, or something that requires restraint or effort, she just calls it a white people thing and shames you for it. Going to the gym" that's what white people do, and a real man can appreciate a girl with some meat on her bones. Eating food that's not fried? White people food lol. "real man" eat fried chicken and sweet potato pie.Doing your hair on a daily basis like normal women lol? white people. you better respect my natural hair (nappy) And how dare you suggest i have white people hair and actually put a hot iron to it!

Red pillers see something he doesn't agree with and calls it BETA, or even worse, a faggot. Dressing up / learning how to dress? gay/ faggot. Getting a job / busting your ass at work to make more money? BETA. Actually maintaining a relationship with a woman and not ****ing and dumping? BETA game.


'Both black women (in general) want he benefits they simply have not earned on their merits alone.

9. IN general, I don't think that the red pill / blue pill /apha/ beta discussions are conducive to action which in turn, leads to a circle jerk feeling that the whole manophere gives off

in my drug addiction, it never failed. i'd go on a binge, then i'd feel like ****. then i'd finally get to sleep but the next day i'd be so out of it i couldn't really do anything. so i'd plan. i'd make lists. the more detailed the better. it made me feel like i was about to do something, but it never required me to actually go out and do something lol.

My point is, why are you here? are you here to get laid or are you here to figure out why you aren't getting laid? Because that's 2 different things. I can tell you how to get laid in about 1 page. Buy a few books on clothes/ style, stop being afraid to to women, go to the gym, get out the house. that will get 80% of the guys on this forum that aren't getting laid laid within 6 months.

Every guy I have met in real life who wanted to get better with women are now doing 180's from where they were. Guys who were petrified of women are now going up and cold approaching chicks in bars. and closing. Just becuase they feel more confident about themselves. It's not hard. at all.

the older I get the more I realize you can't reason with alot of guys. They don't want to get better. Because getting better requires real work.

 

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Great job pointing that out t!ts. I don't agree with dasein with his misconceptions about the conservative right wing media, but here he is spot on with the using of the word "bitter".

I hope you were being sarcastic. I'm presuming you were.

Edit: I just remembered you were the dude saying that a few months ago, lulz the first (and presuming only) person in the entire manosphere to think the cathedral is actually right wing conservative :crackup: Impressive . Don't take this the wrong way mate but do you actually understand what right/left wing actually means and the ideologies of each party?

Again I'm not trying to be an ass but perhaps you should have another look at the mainstream media, then maybe another look at both ideologies my friend.