Red Pill Role's - Do Not Overdose

[VikingKing]

We should all meet up together one day. Then we can just poo in our hands and fling it at each other.

Every one go for hn first.

 

[Vice]

You spend more time picking fights with men on this site than you spend providing any useful or helpful information AT ALL.

Yeah, we really need to get away from this and focus on what it takes to touch boobies on the weekend and stuff

 

[dasein]

Overdose case # 1
Here is a guy who spends 3 paragraphs on why the word "bitter" should be erased from the dictionary. "Bitter" is a word made up by society and if you use that word you are still blue pill according to dasein. Too much mental masturbating about stupid things. "Bitter" is a synonym for "resentment" pal and congratulations on being "too macho" to use the word. Nobody cares. There are more important things going on here than to nit-pick at select vocabulary.

And notice how he uses the word "shaming". I was once a very strong user of this word, but lately people are destroying it and the purpose it was meant to serve. It originally was to be used AGAINST WOMEN...who would attempt to make a man feel bad about his sexual nature and being. NOW...."red pill extremists" use it against other men because they cant take criticism for their illogical views. One ounce of criticism and they rationalize that the criticism is an attempt to shame them.....pathetic.

1. I don't really like the red pill analogy/metaphor that much, but it is useful in a very basic way for men who have received bad advice, often for years, often from many angles and sources, so when people include the analogy in their posts and threads, I will often incorporate it into my replies. That said, it's not nearly as bad or misleading or especially AS BIG A DEAL as some in this thread have posted when people use it.

2. The reason I spent an eternity... erm -5 minutes-... on a particular use of the word "bitter" is twofold: a) OP used it which led me to believe that he is still subject to certain gynoculture conditioning because that particular use of the term is suspect, typically learned from exposure to a certain POV that I believe is contrary to clarity and truth for younger, inexperienced men; b) I am sick of seeing and hearing the term everywhere used in that way, and only used by a certain type or mindset of person (I believe OP was simply parroting its use in that thread). Otherwise, I stand by everything I said about the term, and tits added to that nicely. He got the point, as I imagine several did. That's good enough for me, and if you don't like it, that's fine too. When someone uses the term "chemistry" down the line to describe sexual attraction, I'll be providing another 5 minutes of commentary, hope that doesn't offend you too much.

3. I used the term "shaming" accurately, not "against" men or women, but to describe people who forward the use of weasel words like "bitter" towards shaming ends or parrot that language unknowingly. It's plainer than plain from that thread that the OP there felt shame based on his "bitterness" after having an eye opened but not the other just yet. I could care less what gender of person engages in it, and will continue to use "shaming" as opposed to the more precise but dry latin informal logic fallacy terms. Moreover you ignored the positive, encouraging MAIN POINT of my post to that OP about freedom from cultural conditioning.

4. Call my posts "mental masturbation" some more in an OP and long gizzmy thread that literally gizzes all over the page in founts of sparkly gizzmy gizzm, your gizzship. Thanks for the laugh. And FYI, lots of what I post here is/will be -exactly- mental masturbation because I get paid very well to write anything else more substantive and I simply don't know where to send the bill should I post such fare here. Shall I send it to you?

 

[Atom Smasher]

To bb and zekko, I think you guys don't quite realize how rare it is to have found what you have found in mates/girlfriends. Sometimes when you have it good and get used to it the rarity of it becomes largely invisible.

I have a feeling that if you both went back into the dating world you might be shell-shocked to see how far these women have fallen, again within the dating context.

At any rate I'm genuinely happy for both of you.

 

[backbreaker]

oh i very well do. i've been out there.

but that's my point AS. It's not that hard to do. just spin plates, don't settle, and screen screen screen until you find someone that is worth a ****. then when they are worth a ****, treat them like they are worth a ****, while still maintaining the frame of a relationship.

when i met my wife, i had been single and activity dating for about, 4 years. 4 years of 2-3-4 plates at a time.


What I do find interesting however,r is that you are 56. ARe you saying that women YOUR AGE or the women you'd be intrested in, i'm assuming 35+ are going downhilll as well or the women the vast majority of men are going for are down hill

zekko hit on a good point.. my wife is older, just turned 36 3 months ago. Doesn't look it whatsoever but still. I think that's one of the things that drew me to her, that and she takes great care of her self physically. she doesn't do drama. at all. none. she doesn't play games, she is the most rational level headed women I've ever met. I don't' think i could get that out of a 24 year old. The biggest issue i had when i was spinning plates are women wanting too much of my time becuase they didn't have their own life. I don't have time like that. Too much going on. My wife doesn't get butt hurt or in her feelings if i got **** going on and don't' want to spend the day with her. She doesn't need me to express my feelings and all that **** all the time to show her i love her. she's just not.. she's not a stupid girl if that makes any sense.

i'd probably **** a 24 year old, i know i would lol. just like the girl in the other thread i'm catching hell for. no way in hell i could date this chick, she's cool but emotionally she's not there yet. at least what i'm used to emotionally. And she's 26.

 

[Bokanovsky]

You say its ok for people to disagree.. then you say --> "I don't think enough of anyone else on this forum to bother with reading anyone else's thoughts."

So you want to have a discussion.. but you only want to listen to certain people? Totally contradicting yourself. :crackup:

Backbreaker is a beta provider for a woman who is five years older than him (and does not work). He is also extremely insecure about all sorts of things, including his looks. Not saying this to insult him; it's just an observation based on his previous posts. You know someone is insecure and has issues when he tries to impress random dudes on the internet by constantly telling stories about how much money he is making and how good looking he is. It all so transparent.

 

[zekko]

These ongoing jabs in this thread are going to have some resistance eventually. The message you sent here was very clear.

Seriously, I'm not meaning to throw any jabs. I'm just trying to say that things are possible, they can be done if you put a little effort in. Even if yeah, the state of women and the state of the world are in pretty crappy shape.

But the main thing is I get tired of coming here and reading these same one sided narrow minded opinions where they don't leave any room for any alternatives.

Like I remember this one thread where they were talking about how serial killers get marriage proposals in the mail. And this one poster basically said that while not every woman sends those proposals, ALL women get their panties wet when they see a serial killer. I wonder if they got wet for the 12 year old who committed the most recent school shooting?

It's that kind of black and white thinking that drives me nuts. I've known a few women who have gone after incarcerated men. They were, without exception, fat and unattractive, not to mention batsh!t crazy. Of course, the kind of gals who make the news are the prettier versions because otherwise the story wouldn't sell.

Look at men, some guys have foot fetishes, some guys like butt sex, some guys are into bondage, some guys like to eat pvssy, some guys are repulsed by all of the above. Human sexuality is far too varied to say that all women are alike, and they all respond to the same thing.

Then every other guy here spews hatred toward the poor beta schlub, who is probably sitting home on Friday night, afraid to even talk to a girl. Yet he gets blamed for the sh!tty state that the world is in, and all the sh!tty things women have ever done lol. Meanwhile, would be PUAs are only too happy to trip over themselves to act like jerks if it will give them a shot at scoring some pvssy. Nice standards there.

ON TOP OF THAT ZEKKO SHE'S NOT AMERICAN she's British. you would think the foreign women game dudes would make me their president or something lol.

Western Woman!

 

[PlayHer Man]

Backbreaker is a beta provider for a woman who is five years older than him (and does not work). He is also extremely insecure about all sorts of things, including his looks. Not saying this to insult him; it's just an observation based on his previous posts. You know someone is insecure and has issues when he tries to impress random dudes on the internet by constantly telling stories about how much money he is making and how good looking he is. It all so transparent.

Indeed.

Backbreaker has also posted that his wife has a special needs child that was fathered by another man.

He is no where near being the "alpha" he claims to be. He is a pandering beta taking care of another man's seed.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Indeed.

Backbreaker has also posted that his wife has a special needs child that was fathered by another man.

He is no where near being the "alpha" he claims to be. He is a pandering beta taking care of another man's seed.

That explains why he always rants about the "manosphere" and "red pill" and why there are only two posters on SS who's opinions he "respects". His life choices are diametrically opposed to the generally accepted DJ principles. In fact, I mystified why backbreaker has been hanging around here for over a decade (despite his numerous promises to leave for good he always seems to come back).

 

[BeDJ]

Seriously, I'm not meaning to throw any jabs. I'm just trying to say that things are possible, they can be done if you put a little effort in. Even if yeah, the state of women and the state of the world are in pretty crappy shape.

Thanks for clearing that up, I was under the impression that you were throwing some jabs.

Like I remember this one thread where they were talking about how serial killers get marriage proposals in the mail. And this one poster basically said that while not every woman sends those proposals, ALL women get their panties wet when they see a serial killer. I wonder if they got wet for the 12 year old who committed the most recent school shooting?

It's that kind of black and white thinking that drives me nuts. I've known a few women who have gone after incarcerated men. They were, without exception, fat and unattractive, not to mention batsh!t crazy. Of course, the kind of gals who make the news are the prettier versions because otherwise the story wouldn't sell.

I remember skimming the jail marriage proposals thread. Although I do believe that women are aroused by mischievous, implying that women get their panties wet for serial killers is preposterous. However, if you use that absurd statement to say that women aren't aroused by mischievous behavior is equally as bad. It's almost the same thing going on in threads like this, where a poster throws around terms 's|uts' 'wh0res' 'carouselers,' and people jump at the opportunity to point out that he thinks of women negatively. The poster might be red pill and others jump on the bandwagon to claim he's bitter and that all red pill men are bitter. I'm not saying you are doing it, but I see that transgression going in red pill related threads where the opening takeaway is "Don't be negative, guys."

Human sexuality is far too varied to say that all women are alike, and they all respond to the same thing.

I agree, as mentioned earlier. I do believe all women respond well to seduction and that being mischievous/dark is one of the many tactics that are used effectively. Just don't blow it out of proportion.

Then every other guy here spews hatred toward the poor beta schlub, who is probably sitting home on Friday night, afraid to even talk to a girl. Yet he gets blamed for the sh!tty state that the world is in, and all the sh!tty things women have ever done lol. Meanwhile, would be PUAs are only too happy to trip over themselves to act like jerks if it will give them a shot at scoring some pvssy. Nice standards there.

I'm at the stage in the game that I've accepted gender relations are pretty sh!tty and I'll take what I can get. I am spreading awareness to 'poor beta schlubs' that are willing to listening. You would not imagine how clueless some of these guys are regarding marriage laws and female nature. Not only am I bouncing red pills off their foreheads, I am getting them to realize their masculinity. I'm getting their asses out and approaching women, not having that anxiety. Be social and get laid.

I think maturity is knowing that the world is a fvcked up place, but at the same time, trying to make it better.

 

[zekko]

To bb and zekko, I think you guys don't quite realize how rare it is to have found what you have found in mates/girlfriends. Sometimes when you have it good and get used to it the rarity of it becomes largely invisible.

I've always said it can take years to find a woman who is worthy/compatible of being a mate. On the other hand, I recall Rollo suggesting that it isn't so much that the woman is worthy, but that you are "alpha" enough to make her want to submit and stay in line. I think there is a point to that, although as in most things the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I know this is a young man's website, so the emphasis here will usually be on spinning plates. Most guys will want to take a turn at being the man. But I think for a person to get into a relationship they have to be open to the idea. It doesn't help when the idea of wanting a relationship (ultimately) is shamed and discouraged around here. There are pluses and minuses to being attached or unattached, that's the way I would most like to see it presented. You get to choose what you want.

That said, I would never fully trust any woman, LTR or not. People are unpredictable and dangerous. I tried the marriage route, and it didn't work for me. Maybe because I was selfish and didn't want children - there was no family to keep together. So now I will enjoy my girlfriend but minimize any damage she can cause me should she change. Because people can change, there is always that potential. The only person you can really fully trust is yourself, and even that may not be a good idea lol.

I remember skimming the jail marriage proposals thread. Although I do believe that women are aroused by mischievous, implying that women get their panties wet for serial killers is preposterous. However, if you use that absurd statement to say that women aren't aroused by mischievous behavior is equally as bad. It's almost the same thing going on in threads like this, where a poster throws around terms 's|uts' 'wh0res' 'carouselers,' and people jump at the opportunity to point out that he thinks of women negatively

Yeah, the extreme views are often wrong. Again, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

 

[sylvester the cat]

Again, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

i wonder if you realize how true that is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_way

 

[TheException]

Yeah, the extreme views are often wrong. Again, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

This best sums up what I was really trying to get at with this post.

After, re reading the OP I still feel like, that was the main theme and I accomplished what I meant to do. I may not have presented it in the best way, and that is why people took off and brought their egos into it. I was not trying to throw jabs and undermine anyone.....its just best to SHOW through examples. Nothing personal.

Its one thing to learn how to better yourself and to learn how the female works as a person. What things turn her on, what turns her off, why insecurity is bad, what "fear" is, etc. I want this for every man. It is only to their own benefit.

But....in my opinion....there is a thing as "in too deep". When you condemn marriage for "betas only no matter what" and for "faggots". When you want to ban common words from the dictionary because you believe them to be the work of "gynoculture" and somehow by using it, it will make you less of a man. Its too much.....zekko said it best...."in balance".

Something I was apparently unable to articulate correctly.

 

[zekko]

i wonder if you realize how true that is...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_way

Makes sense to me!

Side note: Buddhism, eh? RSD is big on eastern religion/philosophies. All that mediation makes you better at pickup type of stuff.

 

[sylvester the cat]

Makes sense to me!

Side note: Buddhism, eh? RSD is big on eastern religion/philosophies. All that mediation makes you better at pickup type of stuff.

Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, JC etc all talk about meditation. It is the fundamental principle of all philosophy (lover of Wisdom/seeker of Truth). Too bad religion don't want people to know this.

Absolutely agree it helps with pick up. It helps with everything.

 

[dasein]

This...

After, re reading the OP I still feel like, that was the main theme and I accomplished what I meant to do. I may not have presented it in the best way, and that is why people took off and brought their egos into it. I was not trying to throw jabs and undermine anyone.....its just best to SHOW through examples. Nothing personal.

then this takeaway which simply repeats your mistakes as if no one had reacted to them at all... "nothing personal?" My ass.

But....in my opinion....there is a thing as "in too deep". When you condemn marriage for "betas only no matter what" and for "faggots". When you want to ban common words from the dictionary because you believe them to be the work of "gynoculture" and somehow by using it, it will make you less of a man. Its too much.....zekko said it best...."in balance".

Something I was apparently unable to articulate correctly.

Passive aggressive much? You should have stopped at "my bad." You cross quoted a post of mine (out of context) from another thread to make a non sequitur, unnecessary, airy, ****ty thread about POVs you don't agree with here. I didn't do that, you did.

As far as marriage, if that's directed at me, I have posted recently here that children and fundamental religion are acceptable rationales for marriage. I NEVER posted that any word should be "banned from the dictionary," but took exception to a particular overuse of the word, "bitter" as a common feminine shaming tool, and more importantly, that exception was based on trying to help a particular OP reach a more positive place by recognizing how certain words can be charged for shaming and so ignore or stop using them.

In the future, if you disagree with something I post, how about 1. not cross posting it to start another windy, rambling thread, but rather reply in the thread and in the context it was posted, and 2. not putting words in my mouth with all the inane "ban from the dictionary" and "overdosing on red pill" strawman bull****.

 

[TheException]

"nothing personal?" My ass.
You cross quoted a post of mine (out of context) from another thread to make a non sequitur, unnecessary, airy, ****ty thread about POVs you don't agree with here. I didn't do that, you did.

In the future, if you disagree with something I post, how about 1. not cross posting it to start another windy, rambling thread, but rather reply in the thread and in the context it was posted, and 2. not putting words in my mouth with all the inane "ban from the dictionary" and "overdosing on red pill" strawman bull****.

First and foremost pal....if you post something on the internet, especially in "discussion forums", you words are subject to criticism by anyone. If this bothers you or offends you, your in the wrong place. Don't be butthurt and instead defend yourself. Now....onto your other points.

Passive aggressive much? You should have stopped at "my bad."

You misunderstand. Its not a "my bad" or "apology post"...its a "hey zekko, that's a very articulate way of saying it...wish I had inserted that into my post". Get it?

I NEVER posted that any word should be "banned from the dictionary,"

Sorry.

"It has no place in any kind of precise language"

"So perhaps the first step is to choose a noncompromised vocabulary to describe feelings more precisely and realize there are vocabulary traps set all around us by "blue pill" gynoculture. We haven't really taken the red pill until we have flushed out ALL of the blue conditioning"

"Move past gynoculture language, be it the word "bitter" or otherwise"

Better? Allowed in dictionary, just not in a man's "spoken vocabulary".

In the future, if you disagree with something I post, how about 1. not cross posting it to start another windy, rambling thread, but rather reply in the thread and in the context it was posted, and 2. not putting words in my mouth with all the inane "ban from the dictionary" and "overdosing on red pill" strawman bull****.

As I clearly stated...you served as a foil. I don't care if you don't like how I used your words....they served a purpose in my post.

And....I quoted the 3 paragraphs in their entirety. Didn't nitpick, cut and snip, or infer any additional meanings on your work. Its there for everyone to read and if they wish to view the thread from which I pulled them....its posted.

 

[May_Day]

Women are humans just like us....but operate on a different system. They're emotional whereas us men are logical. Understanding this concept and being able to see women for what they are WITHOUT placing terms such as "manipulative", "evil", "selfish" on them is paramount to your success as a man, not just in the art of "game". Women are very predictable and answer to a higher authority called "hypergamy". Look look it up if you are unfamiliar. Everything a woman does is explainable.....they are no mystery.

basically you're saying that women can f*ck men over, ruin their lives, cheat, steal, and act how they please without us calling them for what they are. Just give them a free pass and deal with it because they're women and operate on a different system.

 

[zekko]

Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, JC etc all talk about meditation. It is the fundamental principle of all philosophy (lover of Wisdom/seeker of Truth). Too bad religion don't want people to know this.

Religion doesn't want people to know?
I thought religion encouraged meditation.

Unless you're talking about religion in some sort of "organized religion keeping people sedated and taking their money" sense, as opposed to actual spirituality.

 

[dasein]

First and foremost pal....if you post something on the internet, especially in "discussion forums", you words are subject to criticism by anyone.

And you keep on and on compounding the straw and idiocy. I can't and couldn't have been more clear -pal-, the above is just more distortion, backpedaling bullsh-t from you. If you disagree with something I post here or anywhere, take it up in that thread in its context OR don't take it totally out of context elsewhere to attempt some half-ass "point" you are failing in another thread. You put words in my mouth that I didn't post or even imply. I didn't do that, you did. What you did is not good manners on internet forums, never has been, and I've been a member of net forums longer than you've been alive in all likelihood.