men don't want easy women

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your mailbox is full....

while you are contributing, why don't you clean this thread up alittle? pleassseeeee!!!!! some of the tennis match flames are ridiculous, and taking up way too much space! this is a great discussion, don't want it to lose integrity due to bullsh!t.
 

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Originally posted by prosemont
Can I quote you as a definitive source in this "debate" now? :D
sure :D


Originally posted by prosemont

In that same vein, aren't women just doing what many men have always done: having emotionally detached sex?
Definitely. However, with the more intelligent girls, i see the same conservativeness and need for emotional attachment before sex.
 

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Originally posted by prosemont
Does this mean that women who do so have less self-esteem while women who don't have many and varied sex have more self-esteem? I don't see the correlation.
This is a two-edged sword in my opinion. Yes many girls will be easy due to self-esteem issues, group-pressure and so forth but also alot of girls can have easy sex BECAUSE their self-esteem is so great and they don't care and don't get emotionally attached.
 

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So What.

If Tupac wants to what you call Brown Nose, get off his balls. I am growing sick of this little female massacre some of you guys started here. IQQI and Eileen have a clue ... you know why? Maybe JUST Maybe, cause they are females, who have been around the block a few times. You can bash us others for actually thinking with our right heads, but looking at the quality of the posts I would say that most of you half brain dead imbeciles have no freaking idea what your running your mouth about.
 

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Originally posted by California Love

Definitely. However, with the more intelligent girls, i see the same conservativeness and need for emotional attachment before sex.
I DO think that say the "intellectuals" tend to guard their body more (Which imo is good, a challenge is fun! And these girls tend to be very good for other stuff than sex such as conversations, debates and so forth) but you cannot label them all.
 

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Originally posted by Paid, Laid & Made
So What.

If Tupac wants to what you call Brown Nose, get off his balls. I am growing sick of this little female massacre some of you guys started here. IQQI and Eileen have a clue ... you know why? Maybe JUST Maybe, cause they are females, who have been around the block a few times. You can bash us others for actually thinking with our right heads, but looking at the quality of the posts I would say that most of you half brain dead imbeciles have no freaking idea what your running your mouth about.
iqqi does yes. Eileen i'm a bit weary about... Something tells me Eileen is 30+ ...

The problem is that girls views on sex (that is the younger generation that is in their 18-25s) has changed _ALOT_ the past 10 years. It's almost as if the age of flowerpower and freefunfilled sex is back. More and more girls want to experiment, more and more girls just want a hot lay on a saturdaynight, more and more girls know their sexual power and USE IT.
 

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Originally posted by iqqi
why don't you tell us why YOU don't go for promiscuous women.
Like I said, I cannot reconcile in a way that is satisfactory even to myself.

I'll try my best, but understand that even I think my thinking is severely flawed here in many respects. Here it is:

First, the best that I can think of is that I somehow that the thing that most men want is a woman sexually (because all else is platonic without the sex). Therefore, the single thing that makes it sexual is a woman's vagina, by definition, and therefore the vagina is a most coveted and valuable thing. It is also something that women can freely give away, ie. if a woman were to walk down the street, she could fvck men by the thousands. So, if a woman did in fact give it up that easily, it decreases the value of her vagina.

The flawed thinking in this: a women is not wanted merely for her vagina and hence giving it up so easily has zero effect on the value of her as a human being. Sex is sex, that emotional bond that two special people might have has nothing to do with the actual sex.

Second, that if a woman is able to have emotionally detached sex at any time and does so with a multitude of partners, she would be better able to have that same unattached emotionless sex tht would enable her to be unfaithful with greater ease and without being detected as easily. E.g. if a particular woman views sex emotionally, if she wer to cheat, chances are it would be more evident and harder to hide. If, however, a woman is able to fvck nearly any guy without emotional involvement, she could go years without being detected.

The flaw: merely having been sexually active is no indicator of a woman's integrity, honesty, or loyalty in any given relationship.

As I said, I still find both these answers to be unsatisfactory either for or against.
 
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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
iqqi does yes. Eileen i'm a bit weary about... Something tells me Eileen is 30+ ...

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No comment. I promised Iggster. :D

This thread is getting interesting. Prosemont is correct in younger ones not so much into the relationship thang. Although I've found that the majority of women above 25 are. I guess that ole time clock really gets to ticking.

I wonder if social values are changing these days. It certainly is in how we define men. Look at the goober who had that 4 million dollar wedding on t.v. sensitive, crying, pouting, babyboy.
 

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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
Something tells me Eileen is 30+ ...
I am 38, what of it?

You'll find, as I did, that all the adults you don't believe, are right after all. It's not a lesson I expect you to learn until you are in my age bracket. You can fight it all you want, but it will happen.
 

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No comment. I promised Iggster. :D
Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of my age. I don't look it, so I don't have to worry about it. Besides, you talk like you might actually know something about me. You don't ... so hit the bricks. I'm tired of you.
 

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Originally posted by Eileen
I am 38, what of it?

You'll find, as I did, that all the adults you don't believe, are right after all. It's not a lesson I expect you to learn until you are in my age bracket. You can fight it all you want, but it will happen.
That might be true for many but sorry to say life isn't like that. Actually the more someone tend to has seniority complexes thinking that a much higher age gives them more weight in certain discussions are very much off...

Ok I'm not going to sit here and say that I'm normal and that my actions are 100% socially acceptable but I have never EVER let older people or authorities without reason belittle or win a discussion based on it. Since highschool I've corrected, challenged and gone head to head vs teachers, parents, olders and what not. There is no way I can say it without sounding arrogant but you know what? I tend to come on top.

Of course my views on certain things will change in life and I will realize my mistakes and failures, most certainly due to my intellectual arrogance but it's your failures you learn from.
 

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Originally posted by Eileen
Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of my age. I don't look it, so I don't have to worry about it. Besides, you talk like you might actually know something about me. You don't ... so hit the bricks. I'm tired of you.
You should not be ashamed of your age at all =) I'm just saying that your views on girls and sex reflects your agegroup and your generation. I'm not quite sure if you are aware of todays "youths" views and opinions on the subjects at hand...
 

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Originally posted by Eileen
Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of my age. I don't look it, so I don't have to worry about it. Besides, you talk like you might actually know something about me. You don't ... so hit the bricks. I'm tired of you.
Holy sh1t, this is one tough cracker :D

Eileen, on your comment about people not realizing things until they hit a mature age, I totally disagree. A ton of us are less than half your age and we aren't that shabby at all.
 

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Originally posted by Kineti[C]harm
You should not be ashamed of your age at all =) I'm just saying that your views on girls and sex reflects your agegroup and your generation. I'm not quite sure if you are aware of todays "youths" views and opinions on the subjects at hand...
I teach at uni. Wouldn't that give me a slight advantage over someone else in my age bracket when it comes to understanding today’s youth? (I'm also considered by my students to more in tune than many of my peers. I think they just like my accent and colourful vocabulary.)

I'm not, by any means, saying I have all the answers. I am saying that to discount my thoughts and views based only on age is selling yourself short.
 
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Originally posted by Eileen
Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of my age. I don't look it, so I don't have to worry about it. Besides, you talk like you might actually know something about me. You don't ... so hit the bricks. I'm tired of you.
***cough cough***somebody count the number of times I stated my age and corrected others who stated the wrong ones on this thread for me***cough cough***

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45119

Thinking you look young and actually do are *cough cough* two different things:

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbro...selected=570549

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbro...selected=583617

But I didn't say anything.

How are you tonight eileen. I'm fine thank you very much mylady!
 

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Originally posted by Eileen
I teach at uni. Wouldn't that give me a slight advantage over someone else in my age bracket when it comes to understanding today’s youth? (I'm also considered by my students to more in tune than many of my peers. I think they just like my accent and colourful vocabulary.)

I'm not, by any means, saying I have all the answers. I am saying that to discount my thoughts and views based only on age is selling yourself short.
Yes it actually helps alot on your insight in youth. I don't doubt that you can deal with 18-25 year olds, how they tick etc. But their sexual desires, opinions, prowess and their generall views of sex might be slightly outside of your radar.
 

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Originally posted by Eileen
I teach at uni. Wouldn't that give me a slight advantage over someone else in my age bracket when it comes to understanding today’s youth? (I'm also considered by my students to more in tune than many of my peers. I think they just like my accent and colourful vocabulary.)

I'm not, by any means, saying I have all the answers. I am saying that to discount my thoughts and views based only on age is selling yourself short.
Perhaps I took one of your posts out of context, but did you say you are in Utah? If so, Utah is considered by many to be extremely "morally" conservative. Your experiences with "today's youth" there may not be indicative or an accurate representation of today's youth. Pardon me if I'm wrong about your location.
 

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Originally posted by California Love
Holy sh1t, this is one tough cracker :D

Eileen, on your comment about people not realizing things until they hit a mature age, I totally disagree. A ton of us are less than half your age and we aren't that shabby at all.
I can be a real bytch. It's the Irish in me :p

Here's the difference: I know I can learn from the younger generation. It's the younger generation who seem to feel they can't learn from the older. It's typical. I was exactly the same in my younger years. I had to get older to understand it.

As I said, I teach at uni. I'm a full Professor actually. I get to see young, bright minds in action all the time. I don't discount anything anyone says. However, I do apply my experience to it. And I have a lot of experience. I’ve lived and studied in many countries around the world.
 
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