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iqqi said:
Now you can add yourself to that mix of things you once found despicible.
See, this is where everyone is confused.

I never found cheating "despicable". I don't believe it is RIGHT to do, but I DO believe it is a fact of life, and therefore people should accept that it happens and live life accordingly.

People want SOOOO badly to believe that humans are not an animal, that we are a higher being, not subject to the rules that keep nature moving on its proper course, but the fact of the matter is that despite feminism and any other perversion of the natural order of male/female interactions, it all comes down to the fact that NATURE RULES.

Women want, women desire, women NEED a man who normally does not exist in the same being. Therefore they are open to and often seek out in a secondary relationship whatever they perceive to be missing from their primary relationship.

We as "higher beings" label this as an abomination, but it is nothing more than nature taking its course, and we as higher beings SHOULD be able to recognize it as such.
 

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iqqi said:
EDIT: What I mean by this, is if you are going to condemn women for being cheaters or having low character... then you should not be taking part of it.
I would challenge you to QUOTE ME where I have "condemned" women for this type of behavior, but I know that as usual, you won't be able to find it unless you take something out of context, so I won't even bother, but fact is I am not condemning anyone for anything, I simply present the facts and state the truth.

Use this information as you wish.
 

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STR8UP said:
Yea, and what IS a marriage certificate anyway? It's a fukking piece of paper. I can use it to wipe my ass the same as a personal check. Both are only as good as the intent and circumstances of the person who signs it at any given point in time.

Oh wow, so you took an oath in front of your almighty creator....ooooooh....big whoop. If a woman can't be faithful when she has a committed b/f why would she be faithful in a marriage? A lot of you who are so against this say that it's fine as long as there is no ring on the finger. What the hell does it matter? The commitment is between two people and has nothing to do with paper or gold and diamonds or anything else. Trust is trust. Feelings are feelings. And if you start having sex with a woman, lots of times there is someone out there getting his feelings hurt, and lots of times some form of trust is being broken.

You know, I won't go into the story, but yesterday I heard the term "homewrecker" used for the first time in a long time.

Think about that word for a minute.

What is that word essentially saying?

It is taking the blame OFF of the person who is responsible for maintaining a trust bond with another person, and TRANSFERRING blame to someone else.

Personal accountability people....own your mistakes and deal with life, cause it ain't always what you might consider "fair".
I couldn't have said it better myself. And this is coming from a guy, myself, that is big on keeping a commitment and trust. I haven't really went through all the post past when this quote was originally posted but I already got the sense that the flame Str8 is in motion.
 

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STR8UP said:
See, this is where everyone is confused.

I never found cheating "despicable". I don't believe it is RIGHT to do, but I DO believe it is a fact of life, and therefore people should accept that it happens and live life accordingly.

People want SOOOO badly to believe that humans are not an animal, that we are a higher being, not subject to the rules that keep nature moving on its proper course, but the fact of the matter is that despite feminism and any other perversion of the natural order of male/female interactions, it all comes down to the fact that NATURE RULES.

Women want, women desire, women NEED a man who normally does not exist in the same being. Therefore they are open to and often seek out in a secondary relationship whatever they perceive to be missing from their primary relationship.

We as "higher beings" label this as an abomination, but it is nothing more than nature taking its course, and we as higher beings SHOULD be able to recognize it as such.
humans are just another primate. If you want to learn more about people all you have to do is learn about primate social behavior. Cheating is a fact of nature. There are ways to combat against it. But going out to find another mate for an evening or to upgrade to is wired into each and every one of us. Not everyone does it, its a secondary instinct not a primary instinct. There are variables at play here that make it impossible to write out a formula on human behavior but obviously you can still see human behavior tendencies..

His thinking might piss some people off. But its just another way of explaining reality.
 

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STR8UP said:
I would challenge you to QUOTE ME where I have "condemned" women for this type of behavior, but I know that as usual, you won't be able to find it unless you take something out of context, so I won't even bother, but fact is I am not condemning anyone for anything, I simply present the facts and state the truth.

Use this information as you wish.

Well it isn't like I have to dig deep.

In this thread here, Who are the "DOGS", men or women?, you call a woman who is "using" your friend to cheat on her husband a selfish b!tch, and use the word "justify" to describe what she is doing when she explains why. To justify usually means that one is trying to make right what is wrong, which would mean you found her behaviour "unjustifiable".

Or in your own words: So this chick uses my friend as a way to take shots at her husband, then she justifies USING MY FRIEND to get what she is missing at home by taking what her husband said LITERALLY when I am sure it wasn't intended that way.

What a selfish b!tch!

And I like the girl. She's nice. But when i step back and look at what is going on, she is unabashedly USING two men. It pisses me off cause I similar situations playing out all the time.


Furthermore in that very thread you also say I know, and that's what's disheartening about it all. It's EVERYWHERE I look! Why would I think that I am so special as to be able to avoid it?

Guess what? You're not.

Moving on...

Let's not forget THIS DOOZY, I don't know whether to laugh or cry..... in which you start a thread indicating there is a possiblily you might cry because of your frustration after dealing with a woman who has both a husband AND a boyfriend, oh the horror, and you actually go on to SAY here:

I dunno. I think I'm spent. I don't hold anything against this girl cause i see this sh!t happening every day, but at the same time it's simply another nail in the coffin for the idea of being able to maintain a decent relationship with a woman.

I've just about given up on the idea that MAYBE there might be one or two decent women out there who are honest and have integrity. It just seems like everywhere I look it's nothing but lying, cheating, and manipulative b!tches.



Which leads me to believe that you think women who DON'T cheat are honest and have integrity, and aren't lying, cheating and manipulative b!tches.

A far cry from what you say now,

I never found cheating "despicable". I don't believe it is RIGHT to do, but I DO believe it is a fact of life, and therefore people should accept that it happens and live life accordingly.

and now you are able to "recognize it as such":

Women want, women desire, women NEED a man who normally does not exist in the same being. Therefore they are open to and often seek out in a secondary relationship whatever they perceive to be missing from their primary relationship.


Or... were you meaning that the woman was just doing what is natural, when you said: It just seems like everywhere I look it's nothing but lying, cheating, and manipulative b!tches.

Let me know if I took that out of context.

To me, its just as I predicted. You are too much of a wimp to just BE indecent and without integrity. You need to try and then excuse women for doing it first, so that you can join 'em,... since you I guess can't beat 'em.

I personally award you Wimp of the Year award, congrats on FINALLY making it to a point where you can "justify" what you have been wanting to be all along.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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iqqi said:
You need to try and then excuse women for doing it first, so that you can join 'em,... since you I guess can't beat 'em.

I personally award you Wimp of the Year award, congrats on FINALLY making it to a point where you can "justify" what you have been wanting to be all along.
I have no need to justify what I do. I will provide reasons, but not justification.

Women cheat. Men cheat. Get used to it.

Am I a cheating "enabler"? I suppose you could say that. How many women get involved with a man who is already in a relationship, and then blame the MAN for everything that is wrong? Seen it many times.

Oh yea, and you really didn't show us where I "condemned" anyone for cheating. Expressed my frustrations? Yes. Condemned? If I came off that way it wasn't what I intended. It happens.
 

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STR8UP said:
I have no need to justify what I do. I will provide reasons, but not justification.

Women cheat. Men cheat. Get used to it.

Am I a cheating "enabler"? I suppose you could say that. How many women get involved with a man who is already in a relationship, and then blame the MAN for everything that is wrong? Seen it many times.

Oh yea, and you really didn't show us where I "condemned" anyone for cheating. Expressed my frustrations? Yes. Condemned? If I came off that way it wasn't what I intended. It happens.
Saying someone is a selfish B!tch sounds like a condemnation to me. So does lying, cheating, and manipulative b!tch.

But tell yourself what you want.

I'm done here.

Buh bye.
 

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If her husband knows about it & beats you to an inch of your life, or puts a bullet through your teeth, would you (before life flashes in front of your eyes that is) rationalize that it's OK, we're just bloody primates and it's only natural?
 

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Jitterbug said:
If her husband knows about it & beats you to an inch of your life, or puts a bullet through your teeth, would you (before life flashes in front of your eyes that is) rationalize that it's OK, we're just bloody primates and it's only natural?
that kind of violence is also shown by our primate cousins. natural? yes. good? not necessarily.
 

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Whether it's good or bad, it's part & parcel of being someone who fvcks another man's wife. It's only a matter of time & luck until you fvck with the wrong guy.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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What this all boils down to is opportunity. We're all opportunists. Each and every one of us.

I love how people can rationalize some behaviour as acceptable and others are not. These are the same people who run stop signs, who "borrow" supplies from work, who lie on thier job applications, who take an occasional toke from the bong, who promise not to cvm in her mouth; But find it absolutely offensive when someone sleeps with a married person?

Hypocrisy at it's worst.

Why is this act so injust and others, which all of us commit on a daily basis, so acceptable and self forgivable? Some laws and guidelines are easier to rationalize why?

I don't recall STR8UP committing to a spouse under God and country to remain faithful " 'til death do us part." She did that. She made committment to someone and broke the vow. STR8UP was the means to her end. Am I relinquishing his participation in it? No. But you must know that if it wasn't him it would have been the milkman or the stock clerk from the grocery store.

She would have fvcked someone. She bears the responsiblity. Her husband bears the responsiblity.

The fact that my man STR8UP has the wherewithall to share his PERSPECTIVE on what happened is testament to his veracity as a man.

iqqi is looking to pick a scab until it bleeds and that's his deal. So be it.

Why don't we all lay our stones down and help build a bridge instead of rebuilding our glass houses?
 

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KingPin SkinnyPimp said:
I may bang a married woman, but I wouldn't come on here and brag about it.
Instead of merely upping your post count why don't you read the fvcking thread first?
 

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STR8 is doing what 90% of guys in his shoes would do. It's easy poon from a hot girl you shouldn't be sleeping with (taboo just adds to the excitement, don't it?).

Whether that makes it right or wrong is up for debate, because morals tend to get fuzzy from person to person.

Me?

I like to abide by the Golden Rule. I don't particularly like the idea of some random dude banging my wife or girlfriend, so I've always done my best not to step on the next man's toes.

I turned down some seriously hot ass as a result, but in the long run it worked in my favor (I found out later that one of these girls had some nasty STD's)

Even in the prime of my wh0redom, I found that there are far too many hot, single cuties out there to even pay attention to these cheating skeezers.

JMHO
 

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Señor Fingers said:
STR8 is doing what 90% of guys in his shoes would do. It's easy poon from a hot girl you shouldn't be sleeping with (taboo just adds to the excitement, don't it?).

Whether that makes it right or wrong is up for debate, because morals tend to get fuzzy from person to person.

Me?

I like to abide by the Golden Rule. I don't particularly like the idea of some random dude banging my wife or girlfriend, so I've always done my best not to step on the next man's toes.

I turned down some seriously hot ass as a result, but in the long run it worked in my favor (I found out later that one of these girls had some nasty STD's)

Even in the prime of my wh0redom, I found that there are far too many hot, single cuties out there to even pay attention to these cheating skeezers.

JMHO
Str8up is LOVING the attention he is getting from this skank, and in some way he also feels as though he is getting back at women in general (of which he is very very angry with) by doing this.

It all goes back to the same issues he has been having WITH HIMSELF for the past year or so.
 

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What cracks me up is that there are two "irrational" fears that a lot of guys have that could be alleviated by using more than two active brain cells to process what they are thinking.

The first one is the big STD and AIDS scare.

"I won't sleep with a woman if I have used my proprietary mathematical formula to determine that she has slept with more than 3.4 men in the past 2 years, or my d!ck will probably fall off" Hahahaa....

The second one is the "Some dude is gonna come and put a bullet between your teeth if you fukk his wife".

I watched the movie American Beauty last night again. Love that flick. Kevin Spacey's character catches his cheating wife while he's working the drive through at a fast food joint. What does he have to say "Would you like some smiley sauce with that?" Fukking CLASSIC!

Is every guy gonna react that way? No. Are most guys gonna put a bullet between your teeth? Again, the answer is NO.

Any guy who reacts violently to a woman's infidelity is a WEAK, PATHETIC, AFC. And of course they are out there, but like I said, you are almost as likely to run across one of them if you fukk someone's girlfriend, and it's very possible to run across one even if the girl is "technically" single.

Maybe we should all become monks and go live in a monastery in Nepal.

Problem solved.
 

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STR8UP said:
See, this is where everyone is confused.

People want SOOOO badly to believe that humans are not an animal, that we are a higher being, not subject to the rules that keep nature moving on its proper course, but the fact of the matter is that despite feminism and any other perversion of the natural order of male/female interactions, it all comes down to the fact that NATURE RULES.

We as "higher beings" label this as an abomination, but it is nothing more than nature taking its course, and we as higher beings SHOULD be able to recognize it as such.
The old "NATURE/BIOLOGICAL TRUMPS" is an old card that is used to JUSTIFY your trangressions.

The only thing that actually SEPARATES us from the animal is CHOICE in spite of INSTINCT.

When an animal is hungry , he eats. When he is horney , he has sex. This is not true for the human. It is actually known that a MAN who does not eat whenever he is hungry and chooses to space out his meals in tiny portions with low carbohydrates that do not quench his hunger will be more fit than one who eats as an animal would.

In other words, MEN who discipline their CHOICE rather than fully indulge on their instinct are MEN of higher quality.

Just like the bodybuilder who restricts his calories and carbs to take first place in a contest, or the doctor who works 40 hours around the clock; CONVICTION will always TRUMP BIOLOGY/NATURE.

You can JUSTIFY it with any card you like.

Truth be told, men with fewer options will JUSTIFY sleeping with married women.

BTW, married women are the easiest lay. They are desperate and will sleep with anyone.

To say "If it is not me, it will be someone else" is the same criminal thinking a rogue on Wall St will say after he took someone for millions.
 

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Señor Fingers said:
I turned down some seriously hot ass as a result, but in the long run it worked in my favor (I found out later that one of these girls had some nasty STD's)
And you found this out how? Oh yea, I forgot....they passed that new law requiring people's official medical records to be posted on the internet.

Yea, I also heard about that that one chick has AIDS. Her recently EX b/f told me so!

Dude, I know you have more than two active brain cells.....c'mon now
 
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