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Mr.Positive said:
I stand by what I've posted though, I'm very much against this thread.

We'll have to respectfully disagree on this one.
I'm not for having sex with a married woman, but then again there's a million things in life I'm not really for. Let's turn this argument around, despite plenty of single guys married women often times cheat with another married guy (that makes them both a double cheater in my book). Str8's not even maried. And if she didn't do it with him she probably would've done with someone else. Not saying that automatically makes it right for a single guy to get with a married woman, but let's not forget who is to blame here, the married person is.


I think I got into this discussion before with Macavoy that a commitment is a commitment regardless of a marriage crtificate or not, and along the lines of what Str8 was saying, a woman is always in a some "relationship" with someone. You can rarely have sex with any girl without her cheating someone if no one but herself and the "realtionship" she has created in her mind. Point is, most women are branch swinging and if you want to play with women you're going to have to get your hands a little dirty.
 

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lookyoung said:
I agree that woman were better back in the day. But men were always the same. They were a little more alpha back than but they cheated on there woman just as much if not more than the feminine modern man. Back in those days there were no diseases and men were more than likely to sleep with prostitutes.

As far as woman go cheating is much more acceptable in todays society. Back in the day her own parents would look at her as a slut. So would her friends. Her brother would smack her. And her husband would probably be looking to do some physical damage.

Today those days are over.

Her parents will tell her it didn't workout but we still love you honey. Marriage is tough but you will find someone you truly love. She will also tell her family that you were a jerk.

Her friends will take her out for drinks after she files for divorce and she will flirt with a bunch of guys on girls night out. Maybe even fvck one.

Her brother will give her support and the shoulder to cry on. He probably will be with her having drinks with her friends while she is flirting with other guys.

Her husband will sit there like an AFC saying I can't believe the slut cheated on me. I got a good attorney and I am going to fvck that b1tch. Even though he says this he will get fvcked royally in court.

I would also like to add that men and woman in todays society have changed. But woman have changed more. If you get a guy from the 50's and have him date in this era he is going to have alot of problems with these cvnts. You get a girl from the 50's she will not have any problems dating today.
I agree with every single point here.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
I can't believe everyone's patting str8pu on the back for fvcking a married woman. I'm disappointed with this field report, and the responses.




I'll agree with you that it's the woman's fault for cheating, but how can you say the moral of this is to become a better man?!?

A better man does not fvck married women. He has choices.

It makes me sick thinking that people can justify fvcking married women. As men, we are soo much more than just jumping on top of any woman that let's us.

We should have standards....men used to have standards back in the day. Ironically, women were actually women back then, feminine. Funny how these days we complain there's no good women around, yet it's ok for us to have the same low fvcking standards and values.

I actually agree with you. I know I have done the same in the past...but in reallity...it is not a DJ thing.
 

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ZenGodMod said:
I believe you already know this, if you willing to help your single friend out. Make her realize, that this man she holds herself on to is no different to so many quality males. However she's self inflicting her own misery by not releasing her attachments toward this man thus blinding herself to other men.
This wasn't really meant to be a "lay report", and I didn't want this to turn into a morality debate, since most people know where I stand on this anyway, so I'm glad to see this kind of response.

With this chick there is NO telling her anything.

Just goes to show the power of attraction and how intense a woman's feelings can be. Once she is focused on a certain man, it takes a VERY strong attraction for someone else to pull her away. And in the interim she will close herself off to any new prospects. She might DATE, but the sad thing is some poor sap who thinks he has a shot with her is out buying her dinner, meanwhile she's fantasizing about the other dude and counting the minutes till she can get home and see if he responded to her email.

Then on the other hand are her friends who supposedly have what this girl is longing for, and they don't even WANT it! So they are out there looking for some action on the side.

The new joke for her is that "the married girls get all the action", haha

This kind of thing is more prevalent than most guys think, I can assure you.
 

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Latinoman said:
I actually agree with you. I know I have done the same in the past...but in reallity...it is not a DJ thing.
Well, I'd rather go hungry than take another man's food. If I'm hungry, I'll hunt and get my own food.

Str8up posted a field report, and I jumped on him like the "morality police." That's not a cool thing to do. We've beaten that horse too many times...

So, str8up, I apologize for that, and won't post in this thread again so as not to de-rail it.
 

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guru1000 said:
And YES, it is the QUALITY GIRL.

Some say it's a MYTH. I know DIFFERENT.
The "Quality Woman" isn't a myth in the same sense as a unicorn. She is a myth in that she is so RARE that she might as well be non-existent. In the US and probably the rest of the western world anyway, that is.
 

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STR8UP said:
Once she is focused on a certain man, it takes a VERY strong attraction for someone else to pull her away. And in the interim she will close herself off to any new prospects.
And this can happen, even if he hasn't fvcked her. I've had girls obsessed that I haven't banged. Yet here we say if you don't bang her ASAP she loses interest. Or that if you're not fvcking then you are her girlfriend.

There's a lot of contradictory views on this site. I'm not complaining. It seems like everyone has a different experience and everyone seems to be right even when they do different things. Interesting.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
Well, I'd rather go hungry than take another man's food. If I'm hungry, I'll hunt and get my own food.
I guess Character and Integrity is all in Perception.

I consider myself high character but when it comes to survival I play by Darwin's theory, Survival of the Fittest.

Being sex is not NEEDED for survival, I take a passive respectful stance on the issue.
 

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Mr.Positive said:
Well, I'd rather go hungry than take another man's food. If I'm hungry, I'll hunt and get my own food.
Taking a man's food is a little different than sleeping with his wife who is gonna fukk SOMEONE ELSE anyway, if you aren't interested.

See, this is what I'm talking about, and it was one of the points of this thread.

Women are almost always, at minimum, LOOKING.

Not all of them are actively pursuing and extramarital affair, but rest assured they all have their eyes open and many of them continue to cultivate potential "branches", even after they are married.

Women like this are unhappy. They were sold a fantasy and woke up to reality. Now they are two kids in (this one anyway) and "trapped" in a situation where they aren't getting their emotional high, that "fix" that makes them feel alive, so they actually seek it from an outside source. It ain't right, but don't kid yourself.....it's REAL, and it could happen to you too.
 

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Wow.

Got an email from this chick earlier today (we exchanged email addy's the last night she was here).

Then I get a text from my friend saying "People are talking about you!"

Then I get a text from the MARRIED CHICK who evidently asked my friend for my number.

I'm glad she lives 1100 miles away.....
 

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STR8UP said:
Women like this are unhappy. They were sold a fantasy and woke up to reality.
I agree they are unhappy but I disagree that they "woke up" to reality. What is really happening is that they are trying to 'stay asleep' because they can't handle what they see.

If they were actually awake they would realize that 1.) things aren't that bad, 2.) most of what they don't like could be fixed without their childish drama-ho bullsh!t and 3.) living in the fantasy is what is causing thier missery, living in reality will set them free of their pain.

Reality is only ugly for those who don't have the fortitude to deal with it. Those skills used to be taught in childhood... but not anymore in this AFC world. The AFC world is based on fear and avoiding pain. Yoda was right, fear is the path to the darkside... or at least to a miserable life.
 

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STR8UP said:
They were sold a fantasy and woke up to reality. Now they are two kids in (this one anyway) and "trapped" in a situation where they aren't getting their emotional high, that "fix" that makes them feel alive, so they actually seek it from an outside source. It ain't right, but don't kid yourself.....it's REAL, and it could happen to you too.
Christ. I'm gonna end up doing this stuff.
 

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According to some evolutionary biologists, we are a species of cheating monogomamers. Every woman, deep inside, wants TWO men. An alpha to fukk, and a beta to provide. Mr. Right, and Mr. Right now. To the extent they can find both in one man, they will be happy and content. This rarity of this IN A MAN leads to the myth of the rarity of the "high quality woman".

To some, a "high quality woman" is one that will not cheat, and be a good partner.

In my opinion, the extent a woman will live in accord with this "myth", i.e. staying loyal to her man (who is not the ideal comibination of ALPHA and BETA), is the extent to which she has accepted the brainwashings of a modern society, in which case she will live in conflict and not be truly happy.

In my opinion, the reason their is so much divorce, and branch swinging and all that, is because most people, of both genders, fall in love, get married, and think "That's it". It should take care of itself. To have a woman, and keep her attracted and satisfied enough NOT to cheat, is the responsiblity of the man. That is reality. Harsh, but true (again, my opinion).

Again, to the extent marriages stay together without this continuous effort on the males part is the extent they have accepted the brainwashings of society, which as a whole, prefers stable family units, rather than cheaters.
 

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I'm actually interested in this thing with how married women behave when they're on the prowl.
 

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The "Quality Woman" isn't a myth in the same sense as a unicorn. She is a myth in that she is so RARE that she might as well be non-existent.
I'm going to again liken a woman to a house. They're about the same size.... just kidding :D

Getting a "quality woman" is like buying a "quality house". If it's been used before, it'll likely need some fixing up. You have to choose what kind of damage you're willing to work with. If some guy beat the 5hit out of the house, you're in for a lot of work and it may not be worth trying to fix. Get one that has little damage, and you'll have something to work with.

However, unlike a house, you cannot actually fix a woman, but you can train her, kinda like a dog. If the dog got the 5hit kicked out of him, she's gonna growl and bite.

Man, WTF is up with my medaphores today?

But seriously, women can be taught not to waste money, not to lie, and not to visit their ex-bfs. The less baggage she has, the better she's going to listen and the more she's going to respect you. Get a woman with two kids and an abusive ex-husband, you'll be wasting your time trying to teach her anything.
 

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Desdinova said:
I'm going to again liken a woman to a house. They're about the same size.... just kidding :D

Getting a "quality woman" is like buying a "quality house". If it's been used before, it'll likely need some fixing up. You have to choose what kind of damage you're willing to work with. If some guy beat the 5hit out of the house, you're in for a lot of work and it may not be worth trying to fix. Get one that has little damage, and you'll have something to work with.

However, unlike a house, you cannot actually fix a woman, but you can train her, kinda like a dog. If the dog got the 5hit kicked out of him, she's gonna growl and bite.

Man, WTF is up with my medaphores today?

But seriously, women can be taught not to waste money, not to lie, and not to visit their ex-bfs. The less baggage she has, the better she's going to listen and the more she's going to respect you. Get a woman with two kids and an abusive ex-husband, you'll be wasting your time trying to teach her anything.
Maybe the best solution is to get a new "house". They don't really cost anymore than a used one and no ones even slept in them to damage them at all. A sort of LMS perspective on things :D . Only problem is they don't stay new long enough to really go on the market :D .
 

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Latinoman said:
How do I know that? Because of the quality of her female (married) friends. In my years of dealing with women...one thing I have found in common...very rarely you will find a woman that does NOT phuck hanging around with female friends that cheat. If she goes out of her way to entertain two married friends that are cheating...I can assure you without any reasonable doubt that she has done some nasty things too.
I will be the first one to say that you never know what a woman does when you aren't around her, but with this one I think it is safe to say that she is NOT having sex with anyone at the moment, nor has she in a long time. I know her pretty well and she would most likely tell me since our group is pretty open about stuff like that.

And I don't agree that "birds of a feather" necessarily applies in a case of women's sexual habits. I see a BROAD range in most every female peer group I have ever known.
 
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