intimidated by white chicks.

[traveling-salesman]

travelin experiences

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[IsiMan84]

Originally posted by jprjrjr
Now seriously; I actually went and checked all your sources. I'm not going to go through your whole argument and debunk each fact separately, because some of it is true, although you've skewed the statistics to make them sound more favorable to your argument. I'll breifly address a few of them:

1) Even if we accept the statistic that 24.5 percent of interracial marriages are between black and white, WE'RE TALKING 24.5 PERCENT OF 4 PERCENT, WHICH IS MINISCULE. Also if your 24.5 percent figure is right, what you're really saying is that more the 3/4 or 75.5 percent of interracial marriages ARE NOT BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES. See how one can skew statistics? Your percentage seems like a lot until you put it into perspective.

2) Considering the quality of white women that date or marry black men. According to your citation. "educated white women possessing a college degree are much less likely to marry a black man, and infact are more likely to marry an asian man" I think this speaks for itself. A lot of uneducated white women date black men. I'm not sure why that is, but that's the statistic.

3) Your inference that white women don't marry black men on a large scale, because they're more interested in fulfilling some "sexual fantasy" one night stand is laughable. Where are your statistics to back that up? You're assuming most white women find african american men attractive, which simply isn't the case.

I applaud your attempt to research this subject and cite sources, but please understand your sources before you try to push them off as something they're not.

1) You see, there's a difference between skewing and stating a number. 24.5 percent is 24.5 percent. I never said it was a large number, I never said it was a small number. There was no intention to make it sound like a huge number. But I did say it was more than you think. Subtracting 24.5 from 100 to get 75.5 is Captain Obvious caliber math right there. You say I am skewing numbers but yet you turn it around and say how miniscule 24.5% of 4 percent is, somehow not accounting for the fact minorities make up slightly less than ¼ of the population. You also forget to realize that other races exist in the country. Only 37% of minorities are black, so to say 24.5% is low couldn't be farther from the truth if they don't make up a large percentage of all minorities to begin with. So I think I understand my sources plenty. Or at least more than you want to make it look like.

2) I don't really know where this falls into anything, but this agrees with my statement about a woman looking for a man who is successful or has job security. But even then, a white woman who didn't get a college degree is still a white woman, no?

3) I use one reason and it somehow turns into the only reason. Nowhere did I make it sound like every white woman is going to act like her purpose in life is to get with a black man. Every instance you use is always an extreme. I'm sure at some point in their life every guy here has pictured himself having sex with a girl they didn't like or find attractive. Does this now mean we've all fantasized about ugly or fat chicks? Highly doubtful.

Nevertheless, since you like to play with numbers, try these on for size. Let's say every black man in the country had one white woman who was interested in him. Yep, every single black man. Ok now with 36 million blacks that amounts to about 17.5 million black men. 215 million white people, so 109 million white women (more women in the U.S.). That means 17.5 million of 109 million are interested in a black man. That's a whole 16%. Small, I know. Therefore even if every black man had himself a white woman that would only account for 16% of white women. So this interest percentage could never be high in the first place.

Then you throw in certain stigmas between races and the fact that many white people in certain parts of the country (read: the midwest or mountain states for example) have not seen more than a handful of black people in person by the time they're 18. Therefore not experiencing it firsthand, their perceptions are going to consist of the stuff they see on TV or hear from somebody else. People in high school asked me (read: only black guy) all the time why I didn't act like most black people. I asked "how do most black people act" and I got as a response "you don't dress or talk like a gangsta." I can't make this stuff up. Now I think even you could agree that some of the people with these views are going to be female, and that maybe, just MAYBE, wondered if any of it was true?

Not to be taken personal, but the one thing I just can't get is how you (or anybody for that matter), being a person on the outside included in neither of the two parties, can denounce every claim made just because you think so or haven't personally seen it. You are neither a black man nor a white woman. I'm being as truthful as possible and you still disagree. I wasn't even the one who said white women were all over me or every other black guy. I did say a friend or some 'other' guy, but not 'every' guy. I can understand being a white guy you probably wouldn't want any of it to be true. I'm not even trying to argue that it's a common occurrence, like you seem to make it look like I'm trying to do, but it does happen more than you think and more than you would know, given your viewpoint based on life experience.

 

[jprjrjr]

Originally posted by IsiMan84
1) You see, there's a difference between skewing and stating a number. 24.5 percent is 24.5 percent. I never said it was a large number, I never said it was a small number. There was no intention to make it sound like a huge number. But I did say it was more than you think. Subtracting 24.5 from 100 to get 75.5 is Captain Obvious caliber math right there. You say I am skewing numbers but yet you turn it around and say how miniscule 24.5% of 4 percent is, somehow not accounting for the fact minorities make up slightly less than ¼ of the population. You also forget to realize that other races exist in the country. Only 37% of minorities are black, so to say 24.5% is low couldn't be farther from the truth if they don't make up a large percentage of all minorities to begin with. So I think I understand my sources plenty. Or at least more than you want to make it look like.

2) I don't really know where this falls into anything, but this agrees with my statement about a woman looking for a man who is successful or has job security. But even then, a white woman who didn't get a college degree is still a white woman, no?

3) I use one reason and it somehow turns into the only reason. Nowhere did I make it sound like every white woman is going to act like her purpose in life is to get with a black man. Every instance you use is always an extreme. I'm sure at some point in their life every guy here has pictured himself having sex with a girl they didn't like or find attractive. Does this now mean we've all fantasized about ugly or fat chicks? Highly doubtful.

Nevertheless, since you like to play with numbers, try these on for size. Let's say every black man in the country had one white woman who was interested in him. Yep, every single black man. Ok now with 36 million blacks that amounts to about 17.5 million black men. 215 million white people, so 109 million white women (more women in the U.S.). That means 17.5 million of 109 million are interested in a black man. That's a whole 16%. Small, I know. Therefore even if every black man had himself a white woman that would only account for 16% of white women. So this interest percentage could never be high in the first place.

Then you throw in certain stigmas between races and the fact that many white people in certain parts of the country (read: the midwest or mountain states for example) have not seen more than a handful of black people in person by the time they're 18. Therefore not experiencing it firsthand, their perceptions are going to consist of the stuff they see on TV or hear from somebody else. People in high school asked me (read: only black guy) all the time why I didn't act like most black people. I asked "how do most black people act" and I got as a response "you don't dress or talk like a gangsta." I can't make this stuff up. Now I think even you could agree that some of the people with these views are going to be female, and that maybe, just MAYBE, wondered if any of it was true?

Not to be taken personal, but the one thing I just can't get is how you (or anybody for that matter), being a person on the outside included in neither of the two parties, can denounce every claim made just because you think so or haven't personally seen it. You are neither a black man nor a white woman. I'm being as truthful as possible and you still disagree. I wasn't even the one who said white women were all over me or every other black guy. I did say a friend or some 'other' guy, but not 'every' guy. I can understand being a white guy you probably wouldn't want any of it to be true. I'm not even trying to argue that it's a common occurrence, like you seem to make it look like I'm trying to do, but it does happen more than you think and more than you would know, given your viewpoint based on life experience.

Like I said, you make some good points, but most of your numbers and statistics are skewed. You babble on about these fantasy scenarios where every white woman dates a black man. I see what you're trying to say, but in the end it confuses the issue, and ultimately has no relevance. What it comes down to are a few simple facts.

1) I never disagreed with your statement that SOME white women date black men. Infact, there is a certain segment of the caucasian female population that dates nothing but black men. Where I took exception was with zolo, and school acting like every white woman is a black **** hungry bytch. It's not true, and you're intelligent enough to realize that.

2) However you want to skew statistics or sway opinion, we both seem to agree on these two things:

A) 96 percent of marriages in the US are NOT INTERRACIAL

B) Of the 4 percent of marriages in the US that are interracial, less than 1 percent of those are between blacks and whites.

Now as to your assertion that this "Jungle Fever" phenomenon is happening more than I'd like to think, I don't know. I'm just going by what the statistics say, and my own personal experiences.

I think I've made a sound argument, and stand by what I said.

I'd like to thank you for keeping this debate on an intellectual level. I've enjoyed the argument, and give you credit for researching the topic. Although I think I've proven my point that interracial dating and marriage is still quite rare, I understand that your experiences might be different.

 

[MindOverMatter]

This isn't a bad thread, but I think looking at marriages statistics as an indication of interracial dating activity is invalid research.

By the time a modern day woman hits 40, she will have at least 5-20 sexual partners and maybe 1-3 husbands. Just because the husband is white most of the time doesn't mean she hasn't hooked up with people of other ethnicities.

I'm a Serb (so yes I'm white), if you look at marriage statistics, you'll see that serb/canadian or serb/american marriages are almost non-existant, but I'm a Serb, and thus every girl that's hooked up with me has hooked up with a Serb.

Either way, this isn't something to think too much about. Like if someone said, if you own game is tight, why think about this? Focus on your own game, and don't hook up with wh0res.

 

[jprjrjr]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
This isn't a bad thread, but I think looking at marriages statistics as an indication of interracial dating activity is invalid research.

By the time a modern day woman hits 40, she will have at least 5-20 sexual partners and maybe 1-3 husbands. Just because the husband is white most of the time doesn't mean she hasn't hooked up with people of other ethnicities.

I'm a Serb (so yes I'm white), if you look at marriage statistics, you'll see that serb/canadian or serb/american marriages are almost non-existant, but I'm a Serb, and thus every girl that's hooked up with me has hooked up with a Serb.

Either way, this isn't something to think too much about. Like if someone said, if you own game is tight, why think about this? Focus on your own game, and don't hook up with wh0res.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's "invalid research", but I see your point. I don't think there's any way to actually track the dating habits of different races. All we have to go on are marriage statistics.

I guess it comes down to this; White women aren't running after black men in droves like zolo and school think, and they're not entirely ignoring black males like others think.

I agree with not dating wh0res.

 

[IsiMan84]

Yea sounds good to me. Not really our argument anyways haha.

But what I should be worrying about right now is what the crap I'm gonna do this weekend. I'm on internship in this town that I've never been in (25,000+) and I don't know anybody, or where people hang out, and I would really love to not sit by myself in my apartment the whole weekend again. Should probably be its own thread. You know what, I will do that.

 

[DLxX]

Originally posted by jprjrjr
It's common sense that if interracial couples aren't getting married in large numbers, that they're probably not co-habitating in large numbers either.

You just can't accept the truth can you? You try to pull shyt out of your azz to try and prove you point? YOU CAN'T PROVE YOUR POINT; YOU HAVE NO POINT.

By the way shythead...HOW COME YOU NEVER POSTED YOUR PIC?

Hehe now thats just plain ignorance man. Theres a huge difference between dating/having sex and marrying. Especially when it comes to interracial relationships between blacks and whites.

 

[penkitten]

Originally posted by david90
I find them very attractive. So attractive that I'm intimidated by them. They are so outspoken and outgoing that thye itimidated me even futher. They are everything I wish i can be. I feel like i'm too different from them. Ask me to approach asian, mex or black and i'll do it but not a white chick. I'm asian btw.

How can I overcome this?

by realising that a chick is a chick, no matter the color of her skin, its who she is inside that counts.

 

[jprjrjr]

Originally posted by DLxX
Hehe now thats just plain ignorance man. Theres a huge difference between dating/having sex and marrying. Especially when it comes to interracial relationships between blacks and whites.

Huge difference in what? I'm ignorant because I used valid statisitics to back my claim up? Or are you ignorant because you were proven wrong, then you pull something else out of your azz that can't be quantified?

Case in point: Zolo, was the only black guy who could show himself with some white women. I posted those pics. These white women were the UGLIEST BEASTS this side of the equator.

This "Jungle Fever" bullshyt is a myth that SOME black men, and Hollywood have tried to make us believe is true. The smug sounding rhetoric of some of these black guys is almost laughable.

I've heard some say "We just fvck your white women, and then hand them back to you"....or..."You're just jealous"..or "You're a racist"...I'm a racist???? You say you use white women for sex, and I'm racist?????....Their only defense to being proven wrong is to pull the "race card"...That shifts the attention off the argument, and the white guy is forced to defend himself against being a racist.....Neat little ploy isn't it?....I get a long with ALL races of people, but I'm not politically correct enough not to call bullshyt when I hear it.

The truth is..other than famous athletes, and rich guys..the only white women the average black guy is pulling are 300lbs, or live in a trailer park. Like I said, I'm sure there are a few exceptions, but that's the fact. Post pics and prove me wrong.....YOU CAN'T.

 

[skeeloo]

whats this world comming too. thumbs down to this thread.. a white woman intimidates you?.. asian,black.wateva you are a womans race shouldnt intimidate you. i hate this fuking thread

 

[So Many Ways]

Originally posted by skeeloo
whats this world comming too. thumbs down to this thread.. a white woman intimidates you?.. asian,black.wateva you are a womans race shouldnt intimidate you. i hate this fuking thread

hahaha I agree

 

[IGotGame]

The truth is..other than famous athletes, and rich guys..the only white women the average black guy is pulling are 300lbs, or live in a trailer park. Like I said, I'm sure there are a few exceptions, but that's the fact. Post pics and prove me wrong.....YOU CAN'T.

JP, you seem to be getting a little upset with the fact the black or other races have sex with white women. Seriously man it seems very appearant plus you wont let it rest. And you contradict yourself when you claim you arent racist. While I believe that you are not a racist, tell me that last qoute wasnt man?

Actually, WHO REALLY GIVES A SH!T WHO SCREWS WHO? Why can't they just be girls?
And this goes for every other race in here too. If you have game, you can get any girl you want. Thats why I love L. A. so much, its such a mixtures of races its unreal. You'll see an ASIAN GUY with a hot white, or blk chick. An Indian guy pulling spanish broads. You may not know it until you go to huge cities where people seem not to give two sh!ts about race. Or atleast its behind closed doors. Hit up L. A. and you'll see what I'm talking about. Don't ever think anybody is better than you. White, black, asian, we all have an equal share to everything in this earth as any other race-puzzy included.

 

[jprjrjr]

Originally posted by IGotGame
JP, you seem to be getting a little upset with the fact the black or other races have sex with white women. Seriously man it seems very appearant plus you wont let it rest. And you contradict yourself when you claim you arent racist. While I believe that you are not a racist, tell me that last qoute wasnt man?

Actually, WHO REALLY GIVES A SH!T WHO SCREWS WHO? Why can't they just be girls?
And this goes for every other race in here too. If you have game, you can get any girl you want. Thats why I love L. A. so much, its such a mixtures of races its unreal. You'll see an ASIAN GUY with a hot white, or blk chick. An Indian guy pulling spanish broads. You may not know it until you go to huge cities where people seem not to give two sh!ts about race. Or atleast its behind closed doors. Hit up L. A. and you'll see what I'm talking about. Don't ever think anybody is better than you. White, black, asian, we all have an equal share to everything in this earth as any other race-puzzy included.

Thanks for saying I'm not racist, because I'm not. But I find it interesting you find my last comment racist, but don't mention anything about what a lot of black guys have said on this thread. It was much worse than what I said. Tell me why there's a double standard? ...I'm sick of this shyt too...think what you want.

P.S. I've been to LA many times. I don't see what you see.. Mods..close the fvcking thread.

 

[sexualchocolate]

My friends and I usally date white women (i'm black). I think mainly b/c of the area. Not many attractive black women here and they are ghetto as hell. They black girls that are hot have their head stuck so far up their arses they cant see straight, being so few and far between. But go to a big city like Atlanta and omg the black women there are f'ing hot.

I have one black friend that WILL NOT date a black woman. This guy is a natural DJ. Banged well over 150 some odd chicks(no lie). Some of the chicks he has banged have been nasty. But some of them were hb10s, that had their own businesses nice cars, homes. The type of guy you wanna learn from.

Interracial dating numbers vary according to city. I admit we did start off with the 300 pounders, but its not like that anymore. I have dated very attractive white women. Not bragging, not trying to say ive bagged this many and it was nothing to me. We were just attracted to one another and that was that.

i think any (race) woman can be attracted to someone of any other race, it just takes the right mofo. Some white girls just arent familiar with blacks. Just like rednecks arent familar with blacks. But put the two of them together for a while and they will be the best of friends. I work with rednecks (HVAC)and they all treat me like anybody else. People dont like what they dont understand or not familiar with. So get to know people of every color b/c every culture has something interesting to offer. That is how ive dated (not just f*cked)so many white woman. We worked together and spent time 8 hrs on the clock together to where they couldnt get away, and learned to like each other.

Ive dated Korean, Cambodian, Latin, African, African American, White. And lemme tell you none is better than the other if the chick is a beatch.

 

[DLxX]

Originally posted by jprjrjr
Huge difference in what? I'm ignorant because I used valid statisitics to back my claim up? Or are you ignorant because you were proven wrong, then you pull something else out of your azz that can't be quantified?

Case in point: Zolo, was the only black guy who could show himself with some white women. I posted those pics. These white women were the UGLIEST BEASTS this side of the equator.

This "Jungle Fever" bullshyt is a myth that SOME black men, and Hollywood have tried to make us believe is true. The smug sounding rhetoric of some of these black guys is almost laughable.

I've heard some say "We just fvck your white women, and then hand them back to you"....or..."You're just jealous"..or "You're a racist"...I'm a racist???? You say you use white women for sex, and I'm racist?????....Their only defense to being proven wrong is to pull the "race card"...That shifts the attention off the argument, and the white guy is forced to defend himself against being a racist.....Neat little ploy isn't it?....I get a long with ALL races of people, but I'm not politically correct enough not to call bullshyt when I hear it.

The truth is..other than famous athletes, and rich guys..the only white women the average black guy is pulling are 300lbs, or live in a trailer park. Like I said, I'm sure there are a few exceptions, but that's the fact. Post pics and prove me wrong.....YOU CAN'T.

Calm the fvck down. All I said was that you can't use marriage statistics to get a valid picture of interracial relationships, because since society still attaches a stigma to interracial marriage, many people opt out of going that far, but it doesn't mean that the attraction isn't there, or that they've never experimented/dated. BTW man, even though you claim to be only concerned with this topic since its "bullshyt" I'm pretty sure most people here can see through that. What are you the "bullshyt" police or something? Do you get all riled up and make such lengthy posts on any post someone makes that contains "bullshyt"? No. The fact of the matter is IR bother you, whether you care to admit it or not.

 

[Heyjose25points]

This thread is very interesting. I agree with u JPRRRRR, it isn't as common as School and the other guy have said, eventho I'm a brotha like them. At my college, 20 minutes from Virginia Tech, it is 91% white and 4% black, and u rarely see black guys with white girls, well there are some that hang out with white girls at frat parties and such, but they are usually the ghetto white girls tho. I myself just like white girls, because too many black girls always try to act motherly around me and keep coming up to me, it kills me. . And yea, the sad truth is that usually black athletes or black guys in frat parties or black guys who host parties are the ones who get the HOT White girls most of the time. I myself aint one those guys(but people do recognize me as I'm at parties all the time), and have found it hard to actually get white HBs girls despite the bible stuff, i need to go out there more, but a few have given me IOI's, looking down and smiling and just smiling when walking by.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/Heyjose25points/Summer/Handgesture.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/Heyjose25points/Summer/IMGP0337.jpg

Red Heads are hardest for the brotha tho, in my experience(don't know why i like them so much), more so than even blondes since they are so rare.

 

[Heyjose25points]

What i meant to say was that the Black athletes and the black frat guys and the black hosters are usually the black guys who get the white HB8-10s most of the time.

 

[jprjrjr]

Originally posted by DLxX
Calm the fvck down. All I said was that you can't use marriage statistics to get a valid picture of interracial relationships, because since society still attaches a stigma to interracial marriage, many people opt out of going that far, but it doesn't mean that the attraction isn't there, or that they've never experimented/dated. BTW man, even though you claim to be only concerned with this topic since its "bullshyt" I'm pretty sure most people here can see through that. What are you the "bullshyt" police or something? Do you get all riled up and make such lengthy posts on any post someone makes that contains "bullshyt"? No. The fact of the matter is IR bother you, whether you care to admit it or not. [/QUOTE\

This is getting fvcking boring, but as long as you keep it up, I'll keep defending my position.

1) Nobody said that SOME white women aren't attracted to different races. I said IT'S STILL RARE.

2) When SOME black guys like zolo come on here spewing bullshyt stereotypes and making racist comments, I'm going to call them on it.

3) Don't fvcking imply that I have a problem with "IR" relationships. What I do have a problem with is SOME black guys acting like every white girl is craving black men. That's bullshyt, and I'll call them on it.

You can never have a discussion on the facts with some of these guys. You prove them wrong, then they start implying you're racist, and ignore the blantantly racist comments from others of their same race.


P.S. Read heyjose's post. He summed it up quite well. It's funny how he understood what I was trying to say, but others can't.

 

[zolo]

jpjrjrjrj

Ok, you want to bash the women I posted myself with,

Lets see some pics of you and the girls you have hooked up with

Let's see the quality of women you get.

I was a man and did it, now it is your turn

 

[Fatality]

I think just about everybody would be open to dating outside their race these days but people for the most part prefer their own race. That's just the way it is.