Incoming Recession 2022/2023

[BackInTheGame78]

So I see we're just going to ignore the counterpoint to your militia comment?

The counterpoint is I would find it hard to believe the Founding Fathers who were men of action that faced challenges head on would be sitting around with their d!cks in their hands as 20+ mass shooting events happened. Pretty sure they would have acted after one such event, not sat around trying to say guns didn't do it.

Too bad we don't have any of those types of people left today in politics.

The militia these days is called the National Guard.

 

[jaygreenb]

England for one. No not all guns. Only the ones that are military style weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing other people, and which they are pretty much solely used for very effectively during these mass shooter events.

Really have no issues with restricting assault rifles. Just don't see that having much impact on solving the issue. With easily accessible illegal options to modify and being able to 3d print. Don't see it solving the problem

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So divert away from the irrefutable counter point then....

We already have a de facto militia. It's called the National Guard

 

[jaygreenb]

That **** is crazy...but also it's illegal.

You can literally spend 5 minutes and buy one online. They are everywhere. Not sure being illegal is going to stop a mass shooter from buying one. Do a search, you can buy one easily

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Okay... That doesn't change the fact that The rights of the PEOPLE to bare arms precede that of a "well organized militia". Which you suggest isn't the case...

Cool. Bear arms. But it doesn't say what type of arms and it doesn't say it must be ALL arms. I mean it has to end somewhere right? Are people cool with tanks rolling down the highway? People toting Rocket launchers around on their back? Surface to air missiles?

Normal civilians have no use for guns designed to kill other people other than to kill other people. Why is it then a surprise they use those to kill other people?

 

[jaygreenb]

Cool. Bear arms. But it doesn't say what type of arms and it doesn't say it must be ALL arms. I mean it has to end somewhere right? Are people cool with tanks rolling down the highway? People toting Rocket launchers around on their back? Surface to air missiles?

Normal civilians have no use for guns designed to kill other people other than to kill other people. Why is it then a surprise they use those to kill other people?

So say there is a ban on assault rifles, and the mass shootings don't stop, which I think is highly likely. What then?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I disagree.

Seems like it works fine in the UK, in Canada, in New Zealand, in pretty much every other democratic country that's done it.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

The militia these days is called the National Guard.

Actually since posse commitatus is now irrelevant - (we nationalized the NG’s in the aftermath of 9/11 and never undid it) - there are no state militias they’ve been federalized and legally cannot be used to police the populace as intended.

Did you know that we are still in a state of emergency? Giving our government special police powers that allow them to even bypass FISA?

no sweetheart you are no longer in Kansas…

Net.Sheep

 

[jaygreenb]

Actually since posse commitatus is now irrelevant - (we nationalized the NG’s in the aftermath of 9/11 and never undid it) - there are no state militias they’ve been federalized and legally cannot be used to police the populace as intended.

Did you know that we are still in a state of emergency? Giving our government special police powers that allow them to even bypass FISA?

no sweetheart you are no longer in Kansas…

Net.Sheep

Look what at happened in Canada and Australia

 

[Fruitbat]

The logic of your statement doesn’t hold. I can kill you with a tape measure trust me. Again a tool if you were overfor a meal and I put my kimber cdp II pro, unloaded, slider back on the table would you urinate on yourself? I’d say yea. How about a ballpeen hammer? Do you own or have ever shot a firearm? I guess not. Have you ever been a victim of gun violence?

how about we have a duel. You can take the tape measure and I’ll take the AR15?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

how about we have a duel. You can take the tape measure and I’ll take the AR15?

I’d probably disarm you before you could get a poodle shooter round off, but sure. 5.56mm is worthless, anyone who knows anything about firearms shoots 30 cal or better…

the m-16 was made to be part of a combined arms strategy including mortars and air support while you keep the tangos heads down using spray and pray and you fso calls in arty. That’s all it’s good for, carry more rounds regardless of their effectiveness.

I’m part of the one round one kill generation.

 

[jaygreenb]

I’d probably disarm you before you could get a poodle shooter round off, but sure. 5.56mm is worthless, anyone who knows anything about firearms shoots 30 cal or better…

the m-16 was made to be part of a combined arms strategy including mortars and air support while you keep the tangos heads down using spray and pray and you fso calls in arty. That’s all it’s good for, carry more rounds regardless of their effectiveness.

I’m part of the one round one kill generation.

My money is on Pierce lol

 

[jaygreenb]

I run my own engineering consultancy, bro. I know exactly how the business world works.

Sorry to say, but it’s not people like you who do well in this world. Mark’s like you get cleaned out every cycle. Guys like you who fall for the most basic BluePill economic gaslighting.

To beat the system, you have to know what the system is (which you don’t). You have to know all the rules so you can decide which ones to break, or if breaking rules is even possible from your position. To really break rules you have to be networked in with the top rule breakers.

Here’s a big tip for you. The wealthiest people in the world are super criminals by the legal definition. But because they write the laws, they are the Law.

"Engineering Consultancy" that is pretty vague lol Sounds like unemployed with an AA degree from a Career College. You have made it abundantly clear you do not understand how business or markets work. You just parrot off lines from your favorite doom peddlers on Youtube. There is no depth or substance in what you are saying. If you actually understood what is going on, you would understand there are ways to mitigate all the risks that are certainly on the horizon. Not just spout off these vague platitudes that you think sound smart.

Here's a big tip for you. There are a lot of really successful and resourceful people who are not just the .0001% Rothchild blood lines. They see what is on the horizon and are actually making sure they are prepared. They certainly aren't crying online saying all hope is lost. Societies throughout history have gone through these upheavals, it is nothing new. It isn't just a few families who do well either. There is actually a lot of opportunity during these transitional periods if you are prepared. There will be winners and losers. Decide which one you want to be. Need to change that attitude first though.

 

[Fruitbat]

I’d probably disarm you before you could get a poodle shooter round off, but sure. 5.56mm is worthless, anyone who knows anything about firearms shoots 30 cal or better…

the m-16 was made to be part of a combined arms strategy including mortars and air support while you keep the tangos heads down using spray and pray and you fso calls in arty. That’s all it’s good for, carry more rounds regardless of their effectiveness.

I’m part of the one round one kill generation.

Would you disarm me like in a Hollywood movie, with dramatic music and a glib remark after disarming me, such as “I always said you were ‘armless, fruitbat”

I actually watch some gun channels on YT, I’ve done clay shooting many times.
i begrudging accept that if I don’t want the weird bloke around the corner with a firearm, or criminals who have to be armed (ours generally aren’t armed unless they are serious gangsters because the heat is too high), then I have to leave firearms to sporting purposes.
If I was living in the US I would most certainly own a gun, if it was legal for me to do so.

 

[Fruitbat]

People literally are obsessed with this notion that someone is going to take over the country if they don't have AR 15s or similar weapons but simply looking at other countries that have banned them shows this hasn't played out at all. What has played out is they don't have mass shootings anymore.

…and often totally misrepresent what’s happening in other places. Eg in U.K., apparently it’s a refugee infested hole full of speech stasi, and machete slayings.

The USA is a country which has had immigration orders of magnitude higher, and it really isn’t as bad as what they say, the the media push these nonsense ideas at them to justify their own nonsense

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

OMG guys, this is terrible! Germany is going to need to ban automobiles! - I mean they're killing machines!

Car ploughs into crowds in Berlin, leaving people dead and injured

A German-Armenian man who killed a teacher as he drove 'full throttle' into a crowd in Berlin had 'posters expressing views about Turkey' in his car, it emerged tonight.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I’d probably disarm you before you could get a poodle shooter round off, but sure. 5.56mm is worthless, anyone who knows anything about firearms shoots 30 cal or better…

the m-16 was made to be part of a combined arms strategy including mortars and air support while you keep the tangos heads down using spray and pray and you fso calls in arty. That’s all it’s good for, carry more rounds regardless of their effectiveness.

I’m part of the one round one kill generation.

So worthless it's used in every mass shooting in the US

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Your statement is INCORRECT.

“Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 146 different handguns being used in 98 incidents between 1982 and June 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 129 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 76 percent of mass shootings.” [1]
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[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

I know it’s confusing man, but an AR-15 is not a handgun, it’s a basically carbine or small rifle.

So worthless it's used in every mass shooting in the US

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Your statement is INCORRECT.

“Handguns are the most common weapon type used in mass shootings in the United States, with a total of 146 different handguns being used in 98 incidents between 1982 and June 2022. These figures are calculated from a total of 129 reported cases over this period, meaning handguns are involved in about 76 percent of mass shootings.” [1]
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[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/

I know it’s confusing man, but an AR-15 is not a handgun, it’s a basically carbine or small rifle.

How about take a look at what's been used after the ban expired? Kinda hard to use them when you can't get them legally.

It's a bullsh!t report made to twist statistics around

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I don’t know about that either Statista is a German company that’s highly respected in data analytics and unbiased fact-based reporting:

Statista - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

How about take a look at what's been used after the ban expired? Kinda hard to use them when you can't get them legally.

It's a bullsh!t report made to twist statistics around