Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Oh another Black pill fantasy topic, lovely

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

An incel-tier man would simply become a GymCel.

https://incels.wiki/w/Gymcel

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This is accurate/unless you have clout like an athlete/surgeon, most women are intimidated by a deeply in shape men and think it screams @sshole gymcel that would rather eat chicken breasts and brown rice all day then do anything fun. Tbh, I can’t disagree with them lol.

As a dude that’s already jacked(11% bf, I run and workout like 6 days a week), work out for you not for women because you will be disappointed. I wouldn’t even recommend chasing women at all, but there are much better ways to get them.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Since we’re talking about building an aesthetic body, I’m going to plug the Kinobody programs because that sh*t really works for slicing fat and gaining muscle while still enjoying your life.

It’s too bad there are so many myths and so much bullsh*t in the fitness industry. It’d be way easier to get ripped and become attractive if there wasn’t a ton of BS out there like:
“You gotta eat big to get big bro. If you want to put on size dirty bulking is a great idea”
“You have to cut very slowly, like 1 lb per week”
“If you want to lose fat you need to eat clean: chicken broccoli and rice” (Ignoring the fact that it’s a calorie deficit that causes weight loss)
“Fasting will burn all your muscle”
“If you miss a meal, your body will go into starvation mode and stop your metabolism, holding onto all the fat”
“You need to eat 5-6 small well balanced meals a day out of tupperware”
“You need to constantly switch workouts to confuse the muscle”
“You can’t ever drink alcohol if you want to get fit. Alcohol completely stops all fat loss and muscle building”
“Your body can only absorb 30 G of protein per meal”
“You need 300 G of protein a day if you want to build muscle”
“Cardio burns muscle, you should create all of your deficit from the diet”

I could go on and on…

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Doubt it. But, there’s really no downside

 

[Larry Lurex]

Optimize what you can. I have am a mesomorph with a high metabolism. I do what I can. Yes stay fit

You’re very lucky.

 

[Larry Lurex]

An incel-tier man would simply become a GymCel.

https://incels.wiki/w/Gymcel

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Why do we allow such negativity here?

We’re not shooting to be Mr. Olympia here. Just aim to having a healthy and balanced mind, body and personality.

Beginners may need to initially spend more time (a phase you derogatively term as “gymcel”) to learn, and develop the mind-muscle connection to get the right form for his own biomechanics.

Over time, fitness may be on autorun, so time-resource can be expended elsewhere, say to work on the inner game.

Suavity is a full-time job and more. If you can’t commit, GTFO with your negativity and keep it to yourself. No one needs more of that here. We’re supposed to support each other out.

 

[Bandolero]

Doing it for my health, especially mental health.

People see the dedication and work you put in.
That's why they respect you more.

Couldn't imagine living without physical exercises
Women shouldn't even be in the picture with this one. The only thing that matters is being healthy, don't know about being ripped since it causes hormone imbalance.

 

[metalwater]

Come on man. Some of you on this forum just twist yourselves into a pretzel to come up with some absurd nonsense, just to throw a wrench into a thread.

What grown man is going to do what you suggested in your example?

You all just enjoy endless debates about the nonsensical stuff you bring up.

Men from different backgrounds and some different problems, not everyone has the type A bluster, and that is some percentage of what some of the issues are. Those guys know who they are, you are probably not one of those. Real pain exists in places that gets laughed at.

Some of it is just for fun.

Thinking you all vs us all, this is how many men end up trashed in both you and us groups. It is always interesting to find out the details on one of you and to be ammazed and the same for us, sometimes it's not.

Only you think exactly as you think. Some are close to that whatever it is and some very far away. There is a reason your spending time on this forum, just as I do. Something you do is not exactly perfect, just as something I do is not. WE try to improve.

Carry on.

 

[darksprezzatura]

In general, what did you talk about?

And how did you turn the interaction sexual?

It never really seemed to matter what I said if there's attraction. Women would lap up the dumbest sh!t.

If there's no attraction, I could write a song w my guitar and they can't give a fvck.

Nonetheless.

I break indirect by asking about cool places nearby pool, climbing, swimming etc.Jokingly tease her about her choice a little.

Tell her I have to go join my friends in a bit.

Ask about her experience with the activity. Suggest a date to go there. Judge enthusiasm. Take digits.

Eject if anything except complete compliance.

Turn sexual on text pre date by a simple qualifier, are you a good kisser?

Eject if low interest. Eject if too many guy friends. Eject if she doesn't swallow. Eject if she's too busy. Eject if she tries to lead.

Imo, my game is about when to eject and focus my effort on better prospects.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Being physically strong helps your life in all regards.

 

[EyeBRollin]

So attack formation, you mean to tell me every nfl linebacker or defensive end,
every celebrity who got big for a role, every big swole guy you see at the gym is on steroids?
Every last one of them?

Yes. (Not all.. but north of 90% for professional athletes are taking PEDs)

 

[Pandora]

I’m telling you it’s no greater feeling than walking into a room with a shirt that could possibly be considered a size too small and watching girls eye-f*ck you when you walk by.

Men hold you in a higher esteem and automatically give you respect. Girls will walk up, touch your biceps and open you.

Your coworkers will respect you, your performance at work will improve, your family will admire you ..Your energy and mood will be better, you’ll have stronger erections Girls will put out faster, and you’ll have access to quality, fit women you did not have before.

I advise anyone who is struggling in dating, confidence or life in general to put down the phone and go to the gym right now.
If you are completely clueless, hire a trainer and nutritionists. If you know a little bit, read more and experiment and get those gains.

it will fix almost everything ..

Its very difficult to put on mass and get ripped at the same time especially if you are tall and lanky. It also compromises your cardio. That being said you are 100% correct. Getting a very muscular body really helps with getting easy sex.

The work required for me to do this would not be worth the trade off in cardiovascular fitness. But the amount of puzzy you will pull is really making me think of going that route. Btw you have to consume ALOT of calories to get that size and im trying to go vegan soon so idk.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I dont have the jacked look that op talks about but I got reasonably in shape in terms of size and proportion and I can see the positive outcome since it happened.

Do girls are more flirty and attractive? yes they are but thats not the biggest difference I found.

The biggest difference is that lack of respect from both men and women disappear, aint talking about people insulting me which never happened, I'm talking about people contradicting you about personal sh1t like which clothes fit better and stuff or even stocks.

Even girls that have no sexual interest behave much better, provocations from me virtually disappeared.

You get served much faster at the bar and people pay more attention to you when you demand something.

That alone is worth all the commitment.

I would say a middle weight/light heavyweight body type and the genuine confidence/skill to back it up are a great device to drastically improve your life, hitting the gym and doing MMA has been one of the best thing I did in my life.

It also helps to get rid of inhibition and ignore rules that apply to betas.

 

[Focal core]

I'm 41 this year.. The useless during this 2 years when women are aloof during this lockdown.. My country for some stupid reason are still on fulll lockdown..

I workout regularly

Well here i am.

 

[Bandolero]

Many good points brought up in response to Cola's post, but IMO, I lean toward Cola's assertion from my experiences but with several caveats. When a muscular man walks in a room it's noticed a lot quicker than his Rolex watch or the smell of his cologne. It grabs women's attention the fastest at which time they start making other assessments. These assessments can be positive or negative or indifferent based on their situation. I.e. low self esteem, high self esteem, availability, mental note for later fantasy flicking the bean, menstrual cycle etc etc. The caveats are, is he walking and talking confidently like he has other things going on. Is he stylishly dressed with good hygiene. Is he approachable etc. This isn't directed toward any person here, as many have different views for different reasons, but I'm 53 and have been accused of steroid use on more than one occasion by insecure people who felt the need to give themselves a pass for not achieving a results they deep down wish they could. It's easier to blame others and say some things are out of their control to feel better about shirking their own responsibility. I'm here to tell you that physically most men never come close to maximizing their own genetic capabilities. No I don't use PEDs. I'll take it as a compliment though. But really, it tells me more about you (if this applies) than me.

I can see why people assume that. You have incredible shoulders.
What about you cola? Do you have a recent picture?

 

[SargeMaximus]

Well yes, obviously.. but all of them? I don’t believe mark wahlberg for example has every been on steroids, I don’t think Chris Pratt is on steroids..

Have you seen wahlberg in pain and gain?? Definitely on roids.

 

[soulforge]

We all know that’s false. You can get jacked without steroids. Obviously, we all have our genetic limits, but with proper nutrition and lifting heavy AF most people can get pretty dam swole.

I am jacked.. Never touched a steroid in my life. What does it take to get jacked? Less excuses & more grind.

It's a slow lengthy process getting jacked, for some it will take YEARS however the end result is worth it.

If your living in a first world country, there are no excuses!

 

[soulforge]

You can indeed get jacked for being a natural, especially if you have deceptive size from being fat in the right places. But you wont compete with people who take steroids, and that's who im sure people have in mind when they read threads like this. You wont look like a fitness model or pro athlete unless you take the same drugs they do.

I know that's not what some of you guys reading this, at least younger guys, want to believe. Anything is possible if you believe in it... get your beauty sleep, broccoli and eggs... put in the "hard work and dedication"... you'll get as swole as the fitness models and pro athletes who insist theyre all natural, and women will flock to you... unfortunately that's fantasy, not reality.

This is here is a bunch of EXCUSES... You can absolutely get Jacked with zero steroid use.

Time & commitment & sacrifice is all that is required.. Which is what some of you are afraid of. The work!!

 

[soulforge]

This gymcel notion is generally pushed by dudes who lack motivation to improve themselves & will latch onto anything & everything in order to get out of hitting the gym. Why? Because it's hard fuking work & requires long term sacrifice.

Lifting should be about self improvement & better health & gaining massive confidence.

So what if you don't get any puzzy? Do it for yourself to be a stronger confident man.

Those who keep pushing the gymcel narrative, are the type of guy that will only lift a finger if there is the reward of sex at the end of it.. Not because they want to self improve

 

[cola]

I can see why people assume that. You have incredible shoulders.
What about you cola? Do you have a recent picture?

don’t know why it’s sideways when I upload it

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