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Maximus Rex said:
You have to analyze all aspects of the game. You have to ask dude why he felt as if he got rejected.


That's something I should have asked you. Are you telling chicks to give you the number? Dude, over the past few days, you've approached close to forty women, by a conservative estimate, you should have ten numbers. For now one you need to do two things.

1) Go for the insta-date. While you have momentum, bounce these chicks to another location.

2) Go for the number close. If you keep approaching at the rate that your approaching, you're going to get numbers just as a matter of principle.



Unfortunately I only asked like 1 girl for her # last week lol which would explain me not having any #. I'm pretty sure that asian hired gun who I hit on and teased the hell out of in that tent would have given me her # if I had asked, but I was too much of a ***** to ask for it so I got nothing.

Is it feasible for you to move out?

Not at the moment, especially with me returning back to school, I wouldn't be able to afford moving out right now until I received student loan funding from the government.

It's been awhile since I read it, but I think that might have been in reference to relationships or seduction dates. Louis and Copeland don't advocate giving chicks random gifts, it's always done within a particular context.



What are you going to do when she says, "Fine." and keeps walking?
Start asking her random stuff like what's her background and see where it goes. I mean if she's just giving me one word answers, not a whole lot I can do with that.
 

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I also wanted to ask you guys, I was invited to a birthday party this friday by another girl in my class along with all my classmates. I'm not sure if I should go or not as I'm a little worried my oneitis might be there. I mean if I see her I'm just going to try to act normal around her but who knows whether or not all those old emotions will come back. Also if I do go, is wearing a suit or blazer overkill? I want to show everyone there that I've changed and am no longer that shy quiet guy but more confident and more social and better with women. I'm feeling a little insecure right now about my social skills not being on par yet. I probably won't stay for the whole party, maybe 30 mins to 1hr and then take off with my wingman to hit up nightclubs to work on my game.

Also there's some charity hockey event organized by the same girl the day before her birthday party. Its been organized at the place that I normally go to do sarging and I know a lot of PUA guys are going to be there sarging. I don't want people in my social circle to know that I'm now learning game and sarging women with these guys. Do you guys think I should still just drop by and say a quick hello and then take off?
 

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Week 13 day 1: Today I decided to stay at home just to have an off day. Also my wingman flaked on me, and the weather forecast was saying it was going to rain and have a thunderstorm. I decided to give tinder another go and try my luck on online game. I ended up getting 2 matches today after swiping yes to every girl profusely. One of the girls was an ugly ass fat black chick who I would never have any intention of asking out while the other match was a smoking hot model ( I actually googled her lol). I kept the ugly girl who I will rank as a 3 around so that I could practice text game. I tried chatting with her today but the conversation seemed dull and boring so I gave up. I also messaged that model but got no response. I used a nora roberst quote that I noticed she had on her profile. I later realized it wasn't her that had it, but tinder. I messaged her saying I made a mistake about the quote and then I teased her a little bit about her playing with leaves.

me: I know your cute and all, but making a mess playing with leaves just isn't going to work with me :p.

I haven't received a reply back yet so we'll see how it goes. I figured what have I got to lose since she is already not replying back to me. Might as well have some fun and test **** out. About 1-2 hrs ago, I also got 2 more matches. Both of the girls were a 3. I must have swiped through hundreds of girls, and this is what I am matched with wtf. I know I may not be a 10 myself, but only 3's matching up with me? seriously? Anyways I think tinder is a waste of time so I'm going to start doing cold approaches again. Hopefully I will meet up with some wings tomorrow, if not I'll try to do solo cold approaches by myself, which is even scarier then doing it with a wingman. My goal for this week is to get at least one # which I failed to do last week. Wish me luck!

Update: I just got another match on tinder and went to see who it was, and to my surprise it was a dude. I was like wtf and immediately blocked his ass.
 

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thunder_god said:
I also wanted to ask you guys, I was invited to a birthday party this friday by another girl in my class along with all my classmates. I'm not sure if I should go or not as I'm a little worried my oneitis might be there.
Who cares. As my Pa Pa would say, "She ain't studying about you."

thunder_god said:
I mean if I see her I'm just going to try to act normal around her but who knows whether or not all those old emotions will come back.
Define "acting normal," and stop being outcome dependent.

thunder_god said:
Also if I do go, is wearing a suit or blazer overkill?
No. When your going to a function or event, (be it school, a job, a social gathering, or walking the street. Dress with the intention of being the best dressed man there.

thunder_god said:
I want to show everyone there that I've changed and am no longer that shy quiet guy but more confident and more social and better with women.
:crackup: Not to laugh at you dude, but they don't and won't give a f*ck. If you decide to go to the function, go with the intent of socializing, practicing game, and getting some free food and beer.

thunder_god said:
I'm feeling a little insecure right now about my social skills not being on par yet.
You'll never feel that your social skills are on par, even Tyler Durden admits to this.

thunder_god said:
I probably won't stay for the whole party, maybe 30 mins to 1hr and then take off with my wingman to hit up nightclubs to work on my game.
Cool.

thunder_god said:
I don't want people in my social circle to know that I'm now learning game and sarging women with these guys. Do you guys think I should still just drop by and say a quick hello and then take off?
Why you don't people in your social circle to know that you're learning game and sarging women with these guys? I know these are you folks and all, but really though, it isn't like the people in your social circle are teaching you game and sarging women with you. Besides, what's the worst that's going to happen? They'll stop being friends with you because your on a path to self improvement? It isn't like the RSD dudes are guys you know from a gay bathhouse.

Also, your reluctance to keep these two groups separate might be subconsciously f*ckin you up, because YOU'RE not completely comfortable that you're learning game and sarging women with these guys.

This is easy for me to say because I've stopped worrying about what people thought about me a long time ago, but you can't worried about people say and think about you, (especially where pick up is concerned.) At the RSD free tour I went to, Tyler spoke of people that get offended when you actually make the effort to move away from the social paradigm that society has boxed you into. For people that know you, it makes since for you to be the quiet, socially awkward and introverted Asian kid. For them, it makes you non-threatening. However, for you to move away from that box, it's not only distributing, but it's frightening to them. They'll see you making improvements in your life, then they'll have to deal with the reality of why they're stagnant and striving forward. This is a reality a lot cats can't and don't want to deal with, (especially if they feel as if they're better than you.)

Over the years, I've tried to expose and enlighten people to the DJ/PUA way of thinking, and for some guys, the philosophy is to overwhelming for them to accept and comprehend. For guys like that, I leave the subject matter alone. However, for somebody to have a negative attitude about our philosophy and way of life, then disparage you for wanting to not only be better with women, but making improvements on your life, you have to not only question as why their doing so, but whether or not you want to continue to maintain a friendship with that person. Remember one of Tyler Durden most famous quotes, "The only thing that's creepier than learning game, is not learning game."
 

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OK so I guess going to the party it is then. I will be the best dressed mother****er there and not give a $hit what anyone thinks about me.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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Week 13 day 2: Didn't go downtown to sarge today because my mother was giving me $hit and wouldn't give me a lift so I ended up missing the bus. Next time, she tries this I'm just going to leave the house and go on my own regardless. I'm sick of my parents holding me back from improving myself and my skills with women. Anyways I ended up going to the local mall in my area. Not nearly as much girls and people compared to downtown but its better then sitting at home.

I was already in a negative mood when I arrived at the mall, so I didn't want to start approaching people and I needed to clear my mind and get back into a positive state. I chatted with the starbucks girl for a few seconds and got myself a iced tea and cookie. Then one of my buddies calls me up and says he wants to go sarging so I tell him to come up here. While waiting for him, I ended up shopping and purchasing 2 dress shirts. I also chatted a lot with the store associate however she definitely was not my type and I didn't even find her the least attractive so I didn't bother to flirt with her nor ask for the #.

Next we headed over to the buffalo store, I was hesitant to come back here again since I was here on sunday however I said **** it when I didn't see that girl there. My mother had told me about a really cheap blazer here that looked really nice so I thought I would check it out. As I was browsing for the blazer, the other girl who I chatted for a bit and teased a little walked up to me asking me if I needed help. I'm pretty sure she remembered me, I teased her a tonne as well, and caught her looking at me two times and smiling at me when she went to help someone else. I'm a lot more interested in that other girl who works here, so I wasn't really sure what to do. I asked for her name and shook her hand. I later found out she just graduated from HS which gave me even more doubts about asking her for her #. My buddy was like I should have asked for her #. Anyways later on while me and my buddy walked around the mall attempting to say hi to girls, he ended up spotting her and waving at her from the other side. I didn't notice her until he mentioned it, and I saw her walk away on her phone ( I assume she got off work). Not really sure what I think of this girl, she is too young and not even close to as good looking as the other girl. I'm kind of reluctant to ask her out because she might end up ****blocking me from asking or flirting with that other girl in the future.

Anyways I wanted to get over my fear of saying "hi" to girls so I wanted to practice that today. The funny thing is, I find it a lot less intimidating to go up to girls and start a conversation with them but when it actually comes to just saying "hi" I'm scared $hitless. Go figure. There definitely was a huge shortage of women to practice on. Anyways me and my buddy both agreed to practice saying hi to at least 3 girls today. I ended up saying hi to 4 girls. My buddy actually ****blocked me on one of the girls. It was my turn to say hi, how are you to the girl, but right before I said hi, he said it first, and then immediately I said it. It looked absolutely ridiculous and weird lol. In the end though, it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. None of the girls made any eye contact with me when I walked up to them. I found people hardly make eye contact with people anymore here in the city. Everyone is in their own little world. Two of the girls who I said hi to, just continued walking and didn't even acknowledge me, while the other two turned around, and one said "great" as she continued walking lol. I'm going to practice this a bit more tomorrow as warm up and then start approaching sets and starting conversations.

Lastly I just started using tinder as a past time at home for experimental purposes and also to improve my text game. I have about 8 matches so far. Every single one of the girls are ugly as **** except for that model who never replied back. No higher than a 4. Anyways I'm going to start experimenting and sending them crazy weird opening lines and test $hit out. I messaged two girls using the line "just a small town girl" and will see what they say. I got this line from rsd max who posted a video about tinder game. I will also try using the line "such a slut" on that model to evoke a response or to see if she's a bot.
 

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Week 13 day 3: I forgot to mention I bought a black pocket square 2 days ago to go with my grey suit. I'm trying to imitate this look http://www.fashionbeans.com/2011/upgrade-your-shirt-winter/ but I'm missing the grey vest. I will need to shop for more pocket square colors as I continue to upgrade my wardrobe.

I was dropped off at another mall today and as I was heading to the washroom, a asian girl was walking towards me. Me and her made quick eye contact and then I literally saw for the first time, her check me out from head to toe. This was the first time I have been aware of a girl checking me out like this. Unfortunately I pussied out and just gave her a weakass smile and walked away. What I should have done was look her straight in the eye, smiled and then said hello and talked to her. It's like come on dude, we've been doing cold approaches for 3 weeks now, you should have this handled.


Today I met up with that weird guy to do cold approaches since I had no other wings. I wanted to start practising sayin hi or hello to strangers since this has been a major sticking point in my progress and also to warm up. I said hello to about 4-5 girls and then quickly got bored. None of the girls acknowledged me except one, which is kind of bull****. I hear guys like corey wayne say say hello to girls and stuff when they made eye contact and smile but so far I have yet to meet a single girl who smiles when they make eye contact with me except that hired gun from the other day at the buffalo store. Now I started to approach girls. I tried to use the cheesy pick up line on one girl asking for directions. She fainted not understanding what I said, and I had to ask her if she spoke english. She wasn't very receptive to me, so I ejected. I opened a 3 set sitting by the ledge at Ryerson university, they weren't very receptive neither and my wingman jumped in while I stood there bored which was a mistake. All three girls left us after a minute of talking. I approached another women wearing a scarf after my wingman pushed me to approach her as I later developed serious approach anxiety. Turned out she was Russian and it was here first day here in Canada. She seemed very friendly, unfortunately after opening her a car was honking their horn like crazy out on the street, which I later discovered was her husband. He must have been real pissed seeing me hit on his wife lol.

I also tried to open 2 asian girls who were holding a drink. I tried to ask them what drink they had. They totally ignored me. I tried asking two other sets if they were korean. Ignored as well. Later we ran into another PUA guy. When I introduced myself, he mentioned that I needed to speak up. I know I have a loud voice, I need to learn how to project it and speak up more. Anyways he later forced me to approach a girl with green shoes. I opened her by commenting on her green shoes. After a few exchanges, I asked if she was single. She said she wasn't, so I quickly ejected. One thing I have noticed that I have improved is walking side by side a girl, when trying to talk to her. In the past I would just stand there like an idiot. One thing I need to work on is trying to get a girl to stop and talk to me. I felt pretty $hitty about my performance today. Not being as high energy as I would have liked and having weak ass conversations with girls. I think I did somewhere in the ballpark of 6-8 approaches.

From now on, I'm going to set a minimum number of approaches to do in a day. I'll set this as 5 for this week and slowly increase it by 1 every week or something. I also need to stop being so outcome dependent during my conversations with these girls and just be happy that I'm even approaching them to begin with. I still have lots of calibration work to do.

I got a text from a classmate of mine, who I mentioned having lunch with a few months back. Anyways she invited me to some fundraiser he bf organized tomorrow. There will be a few ppl from my class there. I suppose this is a good time to start reentering back into my school's social circle and making my presence known.
 

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Week 13 day 4: I started off the day coming downtown to meetup with a classmate of mine who I haven't seen in 3 months. She had texted me last night inviting me to a fundraiser her bf had organized and that she was volunteering at for the day. I'm not physically attracted to her, but I figure its good to maintain your social circle and also to befriend a few girls who your not attracted to so that you can use them for social proof and also have them introduce you to their friends. Anyways I find girls suck as friends to be honest. They only really care about their problems and never about yours unlike guys. I was a little bit nervous because I was worried my oneitis might be there and also I wanted the girl to see me in a different light, a sort of prescreen if you will so that when my oneitis sees me, I want her to know that I'm not the same person as before but much better now. I met up with her, and tapped her on the shoulder playfully and walked away as she turned around. I gave her a hug and we talked, well she did most of the talking which I'm fine with, since I was kind of worried my social skills hadn't improved that much, although I did want to say more things, but they say people feel moreconnected to you when they tell you things so whatever. I knew she had a birthday party tomorrow so I baited her, but pretending today was her birthday. She ended up invited me to it tmr. I gave her a goodbye hug and left. She had the fundraiser at the location where I normally do pickup so I took an hr long break to wait for the event to end so I could start doing approaches.

Today was perhaps my $hittest pick up day. I had zero wings so I had to rely on myself. I never knew how difficult it was to approach girls solo. My approach anxiety compared to the previous days doing it with wings was 4 fold. I kept telling myself "just great, you let her walk out of your live forever now, you could have maybe been your future gf or wife". It took me over an hr to finally muster up the willpower to do an approach.

me: You have a nice purse
her: thanks (laughs)
me: how are you?
her: good and you?
me: I'm great
me: do you go to school here?
her: ya
me: what are you studying?
her: nursing
me: which stream of nursing, the practical nursing or registered nursing
her: registered nursing
me: are you single?
her: no, I have a bf
me: ok bye

It was a pretty weak attempt at pickup. I think I'm going to drop the "are you single" line altogether. Its not really working out for me. I probably should have just asked for the number or instadate.

I managed to get some energy from that approach but then I lingered for too long and it evaporated and I ended up not doing anymore. I left the mall feeling like crap as I walked to my ballroom class. This has really shown me that I can't rely on wings anymore and that I need to start doing this on my own. I will have to start small first to build some confidence. I'm thinking about 3 approaches every time I go out.

All 3 of the girls who I danced with in my ballroom class seemed very friendly today, especially the prettiest one. Unfortunately, they all have bf's and they are also in the same class lol. The one I had my eye on, was very happy go lucky and playful, and her height was a really good match for me. I gave her hi fives, and she was all smiles today. Most likely not going to see her again nor any of the other girls, ah well.

I'm excited for tomorrow but also nervous. I'm going to be the best dressed guy at the party tmr and also meeting up with a few wings for nightgame, which I haven't really done a lot of. I'm still a little worried about running into my oneitis but **** it. I need to face my fear eventually. If I see her I'll act normal but also try to have a good fun time. If not, who cares. I'm hoping I can do some daygame before the party and build up that energy and vibe so when I go to the party, I'll be all hyper and energetic.

I'll keep you all updated.
 

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Also if I do go, is wearing a suit or blazer overkill??
Yeah its overkill. Just doesn't fit the occasion. Could come off as a sign of insecurity, almost like you are trying too hard to impress people. To me, wearing a full out suit to a party is awkward as hell. I wouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
Why you don't people in your social circle to know that you're learning game and sarging women with these guys? I know these are you folks and all, but really though, it isn't like the people in your social circle are teaching you game and sarging women with you. Besides, what's the worst that's going to happen? They'll stop being friends with you because your on a path to self improvement? It isn't like the RSD dudes are guys you know from a gay bathhouse.

Also, your reluctance to keep these two groups separate might be subconsciously f*ckin you up, because YOU'RE not completely comfortable that you're learning game and sarging women with these guys.

This is easy for me to say because I've stopped worrying about what people thought about me a long time ago, but you can't worried about people say and think about you, (especially where pick up is concerned.) At the RSD free tour I went to, Tyler spoke of people that get offended when you actually make the effort to move away from the social paradigm that society has boxed you into. For people that know you, it makes since for you to be the quiet, socially awkward and introverted Asian kid. For them, it makes you non-threatening. However, for you to move away from that box, it's not only distributing, but it's frightening to them. They'll see you making improvements in your life, then they'll have to deal with the reality of why they're stagnant and striving forward. This is a reality a lot cats can't and don't want to deal with, (especially if they feel as if they're better than you.)

Over the years, I've tried to expose and enlighten people to the DJ/PUA way of thinking, and for some guys, the philosophy is to overwhelming for them to accept and comprehend. For guys like that, I leave the subject matter alone. However, for somebody to have a negative attitude about our philosophy and way of life, then disparage you for wanting to not only be better with women, but making improvements on your life, you have to not only question as why their doing so, but whether or not you want to continue to maintain a friendship with that person. Remember one of Tyler Durden most famous quotes, "The only thing that's creepier than learning game, is not learning game."
Funny, I would have said the opposite, I'm all for embracing who you are etc but there has to be a point. At the end of the day whether we like it or not, the community is weird. The gurus in it are weird, some of the guys are really weird and it's a place I only come to occasionally. It's not my whole life by any means. If you tell your friends and family you're doing this stuff, you become "that pick up guy." I see this behaviour in myself, if you hang out with someone and they come out as gay or any other defining feature, the spotlight and topics of conversation become that, all the time. Of course this is fine when you want to talk about game but when you don't it's annoying. It's not even in a disparaging way but more of a ignorant curiosity way. One of the most important things you need whilst going through all this is grounding, the time to sit back and not think about game. Once everyone knows you're doing this, that chill happy place has gone. I hate to sound like a sociopath but in my life everyone has their place, they know what I want them to know for a reason and that makes my life easier and ultimately happier for myself. My best friend knows I do game but that's because of the kind of guy he is, he's relaxed, he's not going to c0ckblock me, I've even pointed him towards a few resources. But then I have other friends who would just want to make a massive deal out of it and it's not worth my time and effort.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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narcissist said:
Yeah its overkill. Just doesn't fit the occasion.
It depends on the type of outfit your wearing.

http://www.impeccableimagellc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/pinstripe.jpg

Wearing that, yeah it is overkill and that's a suit you'd wear to work. However,

http://p.lefux.com/61/20110708/A3124000GX/men-suits-casual-single-breasted-wedding-pockets-1430922-Gallay.jpg

However, ^^^^ that is fly pimpin' sh*t that you're suppose to wear at night. Wearing this will only open doors for you and make chicks more receptive.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Bs7Prb2kURY/SwL562L2ofI/AAAAAAAADGM/lPYFnfL4-lo/s1600/grey+sport.jpg

That's a good look too.

narcissist said:
Could come off as a sign of insecurity, almost like you are trying too hard to impress people.
That depends on how you carry yourself and the mannerisms you project. You're also coming off as one of those social paradigm people that Tyler Durden talks about.

narcissist said:
To me, wearing a full out suit to a party is awkward as hell. I wouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
This statement speaks to your ignorance of suit game, (dictionary definition of the word "ignorance.") Education yourself and put some variety in your wardrobe. You're a grown :moon: man, dress like one. Also, if people around you don't appreciate you wearing dress clothes, then you to switch out your acquaintances.
 
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Maximus Rex said:
Who cares. As my Pa Pa would say, "She ain't studying about you."



Define "acting normal," and stop being outcome dependent.



No. When your going to a function or event, (be it school, a job, a social gathering, or walking the street. Dress with the intention of being the best dressed man there.



:crackup: Not to laugh at you dude, but they don't and won't give a f*ck. If you decide to go to the function, go with the intent of socializing, practicing game, and getting some free food and beer.



You'll never feel that your social skills are on par, even Tyler Durden admits to this.



Cool.



Why you don't people in your social circle to know that you're learning game and sarging women with these guys? I know these are you folks and all, but really though, it isn't like the people in your social circle are teaching you game and sarging women with you. Besides, what's the worst that's going to happen? They'll stop being friends with you because your on a path to self improvement? It isn't like the RSD dudes are guys you know from a gay bathhouse.

Also, your reluctance to keep these two groups separate might be subconsciously f*ckin you up, because YOU'RE not completely comfortable that you're learning game and sarging women with these guys.

This is easy for me to say because I've stopped worrying about what people thought about me a long time ago, but you can't worried about people say and think about you, (especially where pick up is concerned.) At the RSD free tour I went to, Tyler spoke of people that get offended when you actually make the effort to move away from the social paradigm that society has boxed you into. For people that know you, it makes since for you to be the quiet, socially awkward and introverted Asian kid. For them, it makes you non-threatening. However, for you to move away from that box, it's not only distributing, but it's frightening to them. They'll see you making improvements in your life, then they'll have to deal with the reality of why they're stagnant and striving forward. This is a reality a lot cats can't and don't want to deal with, (especially if they feel as if they're better than you.)

Over the years, I've tried to expose and enlighten people to the DJ/PUA way of thinking, and for some guys, the philosophy is to overwhelming for them to accept and comprehend. For guys like that, I leave the subject matter alone. However, for somebody to have a negative attitude about our philosophy and way of life, then disparage you for wanting to not only be better with women, but making improvements on your life, you have to not only question as why their doing so, but whether or not you want to continue to maintain a friendship with that person. Remember one of Tyler Durden most famous quotes, "The only thing that's creepier than learning game, is not learning game."
Wow never thought Tyler would admit that
 

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narcissist said:
Yeah its overkill. Just doesn't fit the occasion. Could come off as a sign of insecurity, almost like you are trying too hard to impress people. To me, wearing a full out suit to a party is awkward as hell. I wouldn't do it. But that's just my opinion.
Well I plan on doing nightgame right afterwards. I'm going to try to hit up a nightclub. Obviously I'm not going to wear a pinstripe suit or anything. I'm going to go for this look tonight minus the grey vest http://www.pinterest.com/pin/335799715938869405/.
 

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I just got a text from that girl who I met up with yesterday. Apparently she thinks I'm doing well and really happy. I must have put on a hell of a acting performance because I'm still hurting and feel like crap lol.
 

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Week 13 day 5: Wow last night was crazy. I couldn't believe all that transpired in one day. so I wore that grey suit with dark blue dress shirt like I said but I felt really uncomfortable in it like I was trying to hard, especially during the daytime. I hit up the indigo bookstore and bought a smoothie to drink to cool myself off. While drinking it I ended up picking up a book by cosmopolitan magazine talking about how to exploit guys and tell if he's into you and what to do and $hit. It was an interesting read. Then I noticed a book that caught my eye. The book was called ."how to get out of the friend zone- turn a friendship into a relationship". It skimmed through the book and was actually surprised that a lot of what the book suggested was exactly the same things we preach here. Even more surprising was that it was written by two chicks. They talk going NC, working on yourself such as your fashion, working out, gaining confidence, going out and approaching women and going on dates with other women, then when your ready reenter the picture again with your oneitis. Get her out on a date, flirt with her, touch her and then kiss her, etc. I found the book to be great and I would suggest those currently stuck in friendzone to check it out. Anyways I couldn't find any wings downtown and another wing hadn't arrived yet so I thought I would force myself to do solo game. It took me like an hr to do my first approach and it was weak as hell. I spotted an asian girl drinking bubble tea and I approached her side by side and said:

me: that looks good, what is that?
her: taro
me: excuse me?
her: taro
me: oh looks good

Then I froze so I ejected. Took me another 30 minutes to do the next approach but I didn't look at the girl when I said it. There was a bunch of people in front of me and the girl and I just said "god there is a lot of people here", she turned for a quick second then crossed the street lol. Next I approached some white girl who had a purse or something.

me: you have a nice purse
her: excuse me?
me: your purse, its nice
her: excuse me?
me: you have a nice purse (in a really loud voice)
her: thanks

I eject as it seemed like she had hearing problems. So I was feeling pretty $hitty about my approaches so far, and I knew I had to get at least one more approach in, so I walk up and down the street. I finally spot an asian girl wearing a university t-shirt so I immediately approach her.

me: do you go to u of t?
her: ya, why?
me: just asking
her: but I don't know you
her: its kind of strange
me: well I saw your t-shirt so I wanted to ask you
her: do you go to u of t
me: yes
her: oh ok
her: why are you all dressed up?
me: I'm going to a function later
her: what function?
me: a birthday party
me: what are you doing?
her: just walking around and I'm bored
me: really? why don't you come with me to the party?
her: really? oh ok

I was like wtf lol. Seriously just like that and a random chick that I approached on the street is now going with me on a instadate. Now she was by no means attractive maybe a 5 or 5.5 if she put on make up, so I wasn't the least bit attracted to her. I just got nervous about approaching really attractive white girls so I chose an average looking asian girl. I made small chit chat with her on the way to the party. I found it kind of hilarious that during our walk to the party that she was talking about her friend being a player and stuff and how she rebuffed his attempts at hooking up with her. She said he was doing his MBA and she said it stood for master bull$hit artist and that he had a portfolio of girls. Unbeknownst to her she herself just fell victim to a aspiring don juan lol. My original plan was to bring 1-2 friends with me to use as social proof and also to wing me in case my oneitis showed up, but man I couldn't have asked for better social proof. So we came up with a white lie about how we met to tell everyone. So we show up at the party, and everyone is sitting at a table including that girl who I asked out to play tennis about 2 months ago who never replied back.

I introduced the girl who I just picked up and me and her sit beside each other. Everyone asks me how I've been since I'm no longer in school with them. After me hugging a few girls (something I never really did in the past) the girls started asking how me and her met. I told them that I met her in salsa class and the birthday girl eyes light up after she hears that I'm taking dance lessons. Then the girls start asking us if we're a couple. I don't acknowledge nor deny it leaving it ambiguous. Two of the girls are like "you should get on that" or something. Then another one of our classmates arrive. An attractive blonde who I thought was pretty cool and nice back when I was having class with her. She has a chinese bf so I never made any moves on her. I tell her to sit beside me and I end up chatting her up. I actually found her pretty good looking last night and definitely would not have minded hooking up with her if she was single. During my earlier chit chat with the girl who I picked up, I already knew that me and her weren't compatible and I felt bored and disinterested in her so I just let her talk to the other people at the table while I was focused talking to the blonde girl. I was kind of relieved that my oneitis did not show up to the party and I was able to relax and talk to pretty much everyone. I was commented on how well dressed I was as well. I noticed the girl who I invited to play tennis 2 months ago who minutes earlier wasn't looking at me at the other end of the table while drinking her water (she tells me she doesn't drink alcohol), now had moved a few seats up and talking to another girl. Eventually right before she left, she walked around the table to where I was sitting, put her hand on my shoulder or back and whispered in my ear asking me about my trip to vancouver. She mentioned that she saw the photos of me in vancouver on facebook. Then she brought up playing tennis with her. Then another girl interrupted us, and she said her friend has a serious crush on one of our classmates, so I suggested that we do a doubles tennis match and we put them together as a team. She then said goodbye and left. I then noticed the girl who I picked up had moved someone to the other end of the table and talking to some dude that was the birthday girls friend. The birthday girl and another one of my classmates told me that I should do something and get the girl back lol. I couldn't give two $hits about the girl who picked up so I just shrugged it off. One of my wings eventually arrived but I didn't feel like introducing him to my group of friends, because I don't want him hitting on all my classmates.

As we are talking, everyone starts to leave so I go back to our table and pay our bill and grab the girls number who I picked up earlier. I hug the birthday girl goodbye and leave with the girl who I picked up and my wing. My other buddies also call me up and we arrange to meetup at a night club. The girl who I picked up says she wants to go home to change so we agree to go with her. The girl initially says lets walk but then changes her mind and calls a taxi. I was like wtf. So we get on the taxi and drive to her residence. When we arrived, she took out her credit card, and the taxi driver is like "you don't have cash?" and she is like no and then looks at me as if expecting me to pay for the ride (no ****ing way am I paying for that $hit) and then she tells the taxi guy to just use the credit card reader machine and she pays and me leave. She changes and we walk back to the entertainment district. We get back there, and my buddies tell me to head to a night club north of where we are.

So we all start walking north, but just then I notice a girl walking right in front of us who looked very familiar. I couldn't see her face but only her back. It then clicked in my head, it was my oneitis. She must have just came to see the birthday girl and then seeing that everyone left, left too. I wasn't sure if she had seen me or not but it looked like she had her earphones on and we were walking directly behind her. I started to panic and not know what to do. Eventually she crossed the street while we stayed behind. We then bumped into the birthday girl and a few of her HS friends. She said hi and I wanted to confirm that it was my oneitis so I kind of baited the birthday girl to tell me.
 

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"so did anyone else show up after we all left to your birthday?" She told me my oneitis had come. I was like oh ****. Then the birthday girl saw my oneitis walking away and quickly called her over. The birthday girl kept on calling her but it seemed like my oneitis was ignoring her lol and it seemd strange. Eventually my oneitis returned back. I had my back facing the birthday girl this whole time, talking to my wingman about what to do. My oneitis walked past by me and hugged the birthday girl. I didn't feel like lingering around so I yelled out to the birthday girl "see you guys later" and took off with the girl who I picked up and my wing. I didn't dare turn around as I walked away. The girl who I picked up started to sense something was up because my mood totally changed. She asked me, did that seem kind of off with that girl "my oneitis" just now? My wingman didn't know what was going on, but the girl who I picked up could sense something was wrong with her women's intuition. I told her something did seem off because it looked like she was ignoring the birthday girl and us. I eventually admitted to her that me and her have some history and drama. At this point, I started to feel really depressed again and down. My wing tried to cheer me up and approached a girl and introduced me. The girl blew us off and the girl who I picked up was like that wasn't smooth so my wing was like ok then show us how to do it then. By now my other friends had arrived. They gave me the fist pump for having picked up this chick as I introduced them to her. I explained to them whatever good mood I was in, is now gone and that I feel like $hit again and they're like **** her. So we all end up going to another night club because the one who were waiting at had a huge line. We arrived at another night club, and one of my buddies bribed the bouncer to let us skip the line by each giving him $10 on top of the cover. The girl who I picked up says she has no case and then looks at me asking me if I have cash. I'm like umm... then one of my buddies says he's going to cover her. So we go inside to pay for the cover and she again looks at me and I eventually say I'll pay the cover for you. We all go inside and the place is packed to the brim with really loud music blaring in the background. I really don't see how people can pick up girls in these places since its so damn loud that you need to yell out. Anyways one of my buddies who is a player starts dancing and grinding with the girl who I picked up. Normally I would have been pissed at this, but since I wasn't into this girl one bit I let it slide. He eventually got her number and said to me "I love you and all but I'm going to **** this girl". This is a good lesson folks, never introduce any girl that your romantically interested in your friends who are players. At least now I know to never introduce any girl who I like to these group of friends.

So now my player buddy tells me to come with him and he would help hook me up with some girls. He ends up grinding with some fat brown chick. Then he grabs my hand and signals for me to come in as if to take his place. I was really disgusted at this and didn't go for it. Eventually another guy grabs the fat chick and starts dancing with her. Next he finds another two fat black chicks and tells one of the girls to dance with me. I reluctantly start dancing with her while still thinking about my oneitis. Eventually the two girls leave. My buddy approaches a two set by the bar and then tells the girls that I'm buying them a tequila shot. I was like wtf man. One of the girls turns to me and says something but it was so loud I couldn't hear her. After drinking the shot, the girls leave. Thanks a lot bro, you just suckered me into buying girls drinks for free without me getting anything in return. Now at this point, the girl who I picked up starts dancing with my other two friends and grinding it out on the dance floor. Good thing I wasn't into this girl, as she doesn't seem like gf material and it kind of showed my friends true colors as well.

Anyways we all head outside so that my player friend can smoke. One of my other friend grabs a cig as well, and tells me to do it because its social. I refuse. The girl who I picked up also lights one. At this point, all my friends are smoking except me. My PUA friend who showed up at the birthday party didn't come to the night club and took off. My player friend starts talking to random ppl at the patio. Then we all head inside again. Now the girl who I picked up tries to wing me and grabs me by the hand and takes me to some girls dancing trying to get me to jump in. I'm not exactly sure how to do this, so I just stand there trying to dance. Its my first time doing this, so I not sure how it goes. Anyways the girls eventually ****block me and my new wing women takes me to another set. Same thing happens. She then whispers to me "come on, you need to jump in and get on that, I can only do so much". I guess that $10 cover I spend to pay for her cover paid off. I was still feeling depressed about my oneitis. My wing women starts dating with my friends again, and then we all head outside.

While all this is going on, my player friend is approaching girls after girls. So now we all head outside, and my wing women agrees to buy off of us shots. So I take my shot, and then they all start smoking up again. My player friend then approaches a 3 set of koreans and then introduces me into the set. Me and my wing both talk to one girl. I start to tease the girl abit and then later tried to ask for her number but she gave me a bull$hit excuse saying she didn't remember so I was like bye. At this point now, I started to feel better and back into the groove of things. Unfortunately my buddy said he had to go home, so we all left. I wanted to use the jealousy plot so I told my buddy to take a picture of me with my wing women and then post it on facebook. So we took the pic and we dropped the girl off. While in the car though, my player friend told us that he was feeling her up all throughout the ride. Good thing to know that I will never let him anywhere near any girls I meet again. So we all head home.

Overall today was crazy. I skimmed through a book that talks about getting out of the friendzone and it actually pertained to my particular situation with missing out on the window of opportunity with my oneitis and how to reverse it such as going NC so that she feels what it is like without me in her life, and also talks about making her jealous by showing up with another girl. It would have been priceless if my oneitis had been at the party when I was there with the girl, but I'm sure she either saw me out on the street and that was why she was acting strange or she will eventually find out from mutual friends that I brought a girl along to the party. A picture was also taken that has my wing women in it, and if that isn't good enough I had my buddy take another photo with me and her, although today he told me she didn't look good in the photo so he cropped her face lol. The picture he sent me shows me holding onto some girl but doesn't show her face, which I have since made my profile pic.

I cannot believe that I not only # closed a girl but had an instadate with her on the spot. I now have a wing women that I can use. I plan on hitting her up next time I go out to do nightgame. I also learnt that my close friends are not to be trusted around any girls that I find attractive. My goals for the rest of the week are to finish reading chase amante's how to make girls chase book, read up on openers and how to # close girls and also to watch some rsd videos on the same subject. Hopefully I will have more knowledge that I can apply for this upcoming week. Also my new salsa class begins this wednesday. I may end up running into that chinese HB6 potential plate who flaked out on me there, not to mention a few other new girls. I'm hoping that tennis girl who never replied back to my text message will get in contact with me again so that I can game her somewhere alone. As for my oneitis, I don't intend on initiating any contact with her at all. She still hasn't called me like she said over text. Hopefully this will be a wakeup call for her to step up, because now everyone will think there's competition for me. Hopefully the next time I see her, I won't be effected by these emotions anymore.

One last thing, I will continue to do cold approaches this week. I'm looking to try to start doing solo approaches now and not relying on wings who have been unreliable.
 

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Week 13 day 7: Didn't do much today except head over to the local mall but before I even talk about the mall, my oneitis facebook messaged me. It must have due to that facebook photo that I uploaded yesterday. It was a pic of me wearing that grey suit that I mentioned and beside me is a girl. My buddy took the pic, but he said the girl didn't look good so he cropped off her face but it still shows her body and hair lol. He told me to make it my profile pic so I did. Anyways my oneitis messages me like "hey, how's it going?". I respond back "oh hey, how's it going?" She replies that its a slow day at work. Then I just tell her I'm great and really enjoying summer (even though I'm in pain). Fake it till you make it. I ask her how's her summer and then don't get a reply back. I was actually on the way out and intended to cut the conversation short after 5 minutes. Anyways I leave my house to head to the mall. I was starving when I got to the mall. I only ate a bowl of cereal for the whole day. As much as I don't like to make excuses for not doing any approaches today, I didn't do any approaches because I was so focused on getting food. I had come to the mall with the intention of picking up the rest of my contact lenses and perhaps just looking around the stores and maybe catching a glimpse of that hot chick from the buffalo store.

Didn't see her working today so I ended up just walking into a few stores. I checked out one of my favoursite stores Banana Repubic. I ended up scoring a really good deal on a beige blazer for $45. They also had another grey blazer which I thought looked slightly better on me, however I want my wardrobe to be more versatile so I stuck with the beige. A male employee who I have spoken to a few times recognized me and we had a chat. He commented on my pants and asked me where I got them. I told him I got it here at Banana Republic. I told him it was at another location though and he said ya if it was here I would have nabbed it. We exchanged names and he ended up helping me score the deal on the blazer. This is why its good to get to know the employees. Not going to lie, it feels good getting commented on my fashion from strangers. I used to think I dressed pretty ugly or average and never even thought that I looked good but now hearing all these good feedback has changed my perception.

Next I decided to head back to the buffalo store just so I could nab that black blazer that I wanted but the girl couldn't find my size last week. I didn't see that girl working there either. Instead that tall blonde girl who my player buddy tried to hit on and get her number was working there with another asian girl. The tall blonde chick was helping me out for a bit, but I didn't really need her help except her opinion.

Her: Are you finding everything ok?
me: ya I'm good (she is getting ready to walk away), actually I want your opinion on something (she stops midway and comes back)
me: I need your opinion on which one looks better on me
her: ok
me: I put on the black blazer
her: this one!
me: laughs, I haven't even tried on the other one yet
her: this one! laughs
me: let me try on the second one ( I put on the second one)
her: the black one


There was a little more banter exchange back and forth but I forgot what it was. I didn't feel like flirting with her but I probably should have just for practice. I felt kind of weird because last time I was here with my buddy, he hit on her so I guess I didn't want her to think I was just doing the samething and besides I'm already interested in that hot brunette and that other fresh out of HS girl would be my second target. I need to get rid of this mindset and flirt with EVERY GIRL! As I was talking to her, one of my wings called me, I told him I'd call him back in a min and continued my conversation with the girl. I paid and left. I called him back and ended up having a somewhat lengthy conversation about that girl from friday and my oneitis and him running into his old oneitis. At this point, I couldn't take it anymore and headed over to popeyes for some chicken. I was STARVINGGGG!!!!!!!! I haven't had popeyes in a while. Man did it taste good. Afterwards I headed home. I think my sports jacket/suit compilation is almost done. I might pick up that other grey one next week. I have a 15% off my purchase which would bring the price down to $39. Very tempted. I just need that pair of light brown dress shoes and I should be good. All other dress shoes will just be additonal shoes that I will slowly incorporate into my warddrobe. When I get back home, I noticed my oneitis had messaged me a few minutes after I left. She said she's busy with school, but that she just moved out of her parents home and that she's happy about that. Not sure if she's hinting at anything here or not, but I guess I will have to gauge how she is in person to know. I'm kind of debating also about how to reach out to that mixed girl who mentioned playing tennis. I was either thinking about calling her or texting her again one last time or just waiting for her to reach out, which probably won't happen unless I see her in person which I think there will be a good chance. I made a mistake that night when she came over to me to talk about playing tennis together. I should have made plans right there on the spot, that way I would know for sure whether or not she is wasting my time or if I actually have a chance with her.

I've been reading some of chase amante's articles on the girlschase website for openers. I'm very eager to test them out this week downtown away from my home. Don't want to **** where I live. I've very tempted to try a direct opener on a hired gun who hands out flyers or tries to get you to come into the store just for the experience. I want to start practising doing approaches by myself now without wings. While having wings is great for pushing you or moral support, I have find them to be very unreliable and finding the right one who you mesh well with is very hard and besides eventually I'd need to do this on my own, so might as well start now.
 

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Me I'm still trying to set up a Skype session with Johnny Berba, who is one of the top Dating Coaches/PUA's in the U.K. but he has helped many guys all over the world as well
 

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JaegerPilot217 said:
Me I'm still trying to set up a Skype session with Johnny Berba, who is one of the top Dating Coaches/PUA's in the U.K. but he has helped many guys all over the world as well
I saw his 2 hr youtube video. It was great and very motivational. First time I saw it, I wanted to go out and try some of that stuff.
 

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thunder_god said:
I saw his 2 hr youtube video. It was great and very motivational. First time I saw it, I wanted to go out and try some of that stuff.
He recently uploaded a new video like 2 to 3 days ago that was like 17 minutes long, really loved it, he discusses how to handle rejection from women, although he has made other videos on rejection, I felt that was his best video yet
 
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