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Week 11 day 5: Today was another crazy day. These muther****ers from rsd are crazy and keep on making me do more and more crazy $hit. So I had texted prince last night about doing day game today in the late afternoon. I also was planning on attending the rsd inner circle monthly meeting and then in the evening I was suppose to go out dancing with my potential plate that chinese HB6. I also made backup plans with my best bud just in case she flakes on me.

So I arrive downtown and Prince is no where to be found. I text the guy, and he tells me he still hasn't left his house yet and he will be there soon. So I walk around the mall, and the place was packed with pickup artists. I first see that guy from vancouver trying to pickup a girl. Next I see a tall chick standing beside me and immediately some ugly ass tall arab guy approaches her. I go to the washroom and I see another pickup artist who I met last week who I'll refer to now as Mr. T. He didn't see me and left. So I head outside the mall to see if anyone is there. I end up running into Mr. T first and then several other guys. We had a group of about 6 guys outside. Then I saw another two pickup guys walk by and even a black wheel chair pick up artist lol. I was like wtf. So the guys start approaching sets. I go with Mr. T. He approaches a two set, and I jump in. We both get shot down. Next he makes me approach a two set and I screw it up and get shot down as well using a direct opener. At this point, I mention to Mr. T and another guy that I have a date with a chick tonight but I haven't heard back from her yet so I didn't know how to text her to not appear needy and worried. Mr. T showed me a sneaky way of doing it by texting the guy something like " hey guess what....". Then he says " I just saw your twin". Then he proceeds to say "I'll tell you tonight at whatever time your suppose to meet up when the girl asks about it. I thought it was pretty slick and sneaky. I'll definitely be using this in the future. So we walk around discussing how to text my potential plate and my two wings says she's pretty much down for it and not to worry about it. Mr. T and the other guy start approaching girls in sets. We run into another 2 guys. They don't really approach any girls. Next we run into one more gun. Lets call him Mr. J. Mr. J looked a lot older and was a tall scrawny geeky looking asian guy with an accent. His posture and the way he carried himself looked very awkward. Me and him ended up being wings. Most of the guys I ended up opening and approaching today were two sets. I couldn't ****ing believe it. These guys were now making me approach two sets. I haven't even gotten the nerve to approach one sets most of the time and now they wanted to approach twos. I was ****ing scared as $hit. Nonetheless I did manage to approach about 3-4 two sets that afternoon. Next yet again, another pick up artist showed up. He was a newly arrived korean guy who had an extremely thick accent and terrible english. Me and him ended up grabbing something to eat. Next I headed over to the inner circle meeting. There was about 20-25 guys there all sitting in a circle lol. I introduce myself to some of the guys and the leader some guy who I'm going to call Mr. M rsd and his sidekick Mr. J rsd start talking. They explain what the inner circle is and then Mr. J rsd starts trying to sell the hotseat event. I was like jesus will these guys ever stop trying to sell that ****. Anyways afterwards they start collecting questions. I spot Prince there and start chatting with him. We head over to grab some food along with two other new guys. We return and everyone is still talking. I approach Mr.J rsd and ask him some questions. Just then I get a phone call. I look at it, and its my date. I'm thinking oh $hit she's already done the play and I haven't even gone to the club. As I was kind of expected, she feed me some bs excuse that she's tired and doesn't want to go out tonight but she offers to go out tomorrow but with several other people from my dance class. She kind of insists that I go, but I reject her offer making something up saying I'm busy. She then tells me she will make it up to me by having two practice dances with me and then even offers to buy me dinner. I did make the stupid mistake of trying to rationalize with her when she told me she didn't want to come because she was tired. I said, well your going to miss out on awesome night of dancing with me or something. I quickly realized what I was doing and stopped. I just let it go. Perhaps I could have tried to be more persistent but my game isn't at that level yet. Here was the text exchange from today with her:

me: hey her name, guess what...

her: mmhm?

me: I just saw your twin walking by

her: Did you say hi? I'm around keele and lawrence. Are you around here?

me: I'll tell u more later on tonight at 9:30

her: Haha. Ok, I think my show finishes at 9:30. I'm actually not 100% sure when it ends. Do you wanna go to babaluu first and I'll meet you there? I'll call you when I'm there if I don't find you?

me: Where's the musical at?

her: Hart house. But I don't know when it ends

me: OK just meet up with me at the salsa club

her: Ok will do. I'll text you when I'm leaving hart house. and if I don't find you I'll call you

her: Jane says she's going to uptown loft and there are other people going there too. Apparently babaluu is more bachata and uptown has more salsa. I'm not very good at bachata... Have you been to babaluu? Is it really that bachata heavy?

me: Lets just go to bubulous and check it out and if we don't like it, we'll head to the other place. If anything my bachata is alot better then my salsa, so your in good hands

her: Haha ok. My salsa is a lot better than my bachata.... So your in ****ty company

I then get a phone call like 2.5-3hrs later and she tells me she's tired and flakes out on me. Then like 1.5hrs later I get a text from her:

her: Just heading home now. Thank you again for understanding! I owe you two dance practices How's that?
 

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So I go back to the guys and start complaining to them. I talk to Mr. J rsd and asked for his advice. He pretty much told me to go to that group dance tmr with her since I won't see her again lol or to do whatever I want. I talk to a few more guys and we exchange more contact info. Me and another guy then head over to the 7/11 to buy some food. He tells me to approach some women there. I hesitate and he goes in. He uses the opener "hey where did you get that", and then pretending to faint ignorance to get the girl to invest more and more. After he was done, he immediately told me to go approach the next girl. This time, I approached an asian girl. I approached her using the same line. She just pointed to the freezer in the back and turned her back towards me and got on her phone lol. I walked back to my wingman in shame. We head back to the meeting. So the meeting concludes and Mr. M asks me if I'm new here and I say ya so he agrees to help me do approaches.

So now we all head over to Maddy's. A huge pack of guys lol. So as were walking, guys from the group go off and start approaching girls on the street. We finally arrive there and guys start approaching. I'm not used to this environment so I kind of stand in the background and linger around. Some time later, Mr. M comes by, he talks to some geeky looking guy from the inner circle. He tells him to go approach a two set of blondes over by the bar counter. He tells him to go tap on one of the girls shoulders, stand there when she looks around and then say hi and start talking to her. He looks at him and then hesitates and then backs off lol. Mr. M now looks at me and tells me the exact same thing. I hesitate for a moment, take a deep breath, close my eyes and then approach the two girls. I was ****ing scared but I did it because the pain from my ****up with my oneitis drives me to do it despite how humiliating it is for me. I approach one of the girls, and tap her on the shoulder. She turns around and looks at me. I pause for a second and then say "hey, Its my first time here, how are you?" She answers me and then turns her back to me and starts talking to her friend lol. I felt rejected and walked back to Mr. M. He tells me to follow him inside. He gives me a fist pump and gives me props for approaching and says it was a hard thing to do because the two girls were hot, and they were sober. As if I cared about that lol. I was so scared of doing the approach that I didn't even notice how the two girls looked. I just knew I had to do it to prove to Mr. M that I take this $hit seriously so that he would help me. Well after the prep talk, he took off to go hang out with Mr. J rsd. I chat up with 3 other rsd guys and we all decide to head over to the club my best bud is at.

As soon as we leave Maddy's, one of the guys approaches a two set. After a minute, another one of the guys goes in to wing him. The girl he is trying to distract is a tall brunette wearing heels. He pretty much gets chewed up and the girl who he is trying to distract ignores him and is focused on the guy who approached. Me and another guy are just standing on the side, a few feet away from them. After a few minutes, we notice his wing is completely gone as if to vanish. He tells me to lets go wing him. We both approach the tall brunette with heels. My wingman had taught me about using bull**** to continue conversations with women. So I employed this tactic on her. So me, my wingman and the girl pretty much banter back and forth. I'm spilling bull**** after bull**** talking about martial arts, her being cinderella, and acting. The guy who were winging ends up getting a facebook add lol. Then all of a sudden the guy who was his wingman comes back. We continue our journey but then decide against it. The guys start betting each other to approach girls while I'm thinking don't pick me, don't pick me. The guy who vanished agrees to do the first approach. He approaches a two set. The other two guys tell me to go wing him. At this point, my energy level was pretty high. One of the two girls was trying to get her friend to leave when I arrive. I quickly try to befriend her by saying " is my friend bothering you guys?", I then proceed to start talking to her continuing to spill out bull$hit like a bull$hit shooting machine gun. At one point, I even told her to go join the gay pride parade lol. I pretty much said whatever first came into my head. As I continue to spit out bs, she seems to be more and more into the conversation to my disbelief. She even started to show signs that she was starting to be interested. She started asking me for my name and then starting to want to ask questions, but I cut her off because I was on autopilot bs mode and just kept on saying random **** out. She kept on trying to get her friend to leave and I kept on persisting and trying to distract her until eventually my wingman got his targets number. At this point, I just left the girl alone. I think I probably could have number closed her as well, but she was fat and short. Not really my type. The guys in the background including the guy who I was winging said I did very well, which I found pretty surprising since I sucked like $hit earlier today. The guy who I winged quickly asked me for my contact info and asked to wing together. I also exchanged contact info with the rest of the guys. I pretty much got like 10-15 numbers from wings today. I got so many numbers that I can't even remember most of the guys names. Just a few weeks ago, I was complaining about not being able to find any wings to now having too many wings and not knowing who to call up to go sarging with. What a turn of events. I managed to approach about 10 girls or so today. I feel like after tonight, I'm one step closer to realizing my potential.
 

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Week 11 day 7: Didn't do much yesterday except purchase another suit. Black striped suit! Today I went back to the mall to pick up the matching pants. Right before I headed to Banana Republic, I past by the Buffalo Store. I noticed that HB from a few weeks back was working there today. I was kind of hestitating because I know my game isn't even anywhere near that level to start pulling chicks that work at stores. After hesitating for a few seconds, I said ah **** it and went inside because I did need another pair of jeans. I spot the girl working at the cashier, so I browse around on the outside looking at t-shirts. Then I get approached by another girl who works there. I ask her to show me some jeans, and then I crack a joke and make her laugh a bit. Then I tell her I need her opinion when I try the jeans she picks for me. I try on the jeans and come out of the fitting room. I crack another joke about them being used for the gay pride parade. Then she grabs me another pair of jeans and I try them out. When I come out, she's no where to be found, and who do you know approaches me? My target. I say I'm being helped by the other girl but since she's busy you can help me. So she shows me a few different pairs of jeans and I try them on. I tease her abit and get her smiling. I finally decide on a pair that she picked but I tell her that if I get made fun of, I'm coming back here to look for her. She laughs, then I ask for her name. She immediately tells me and I'm like "ok now I know who to ask for" and smile. She smiles.

The previous girl later comes back and she tells me the jeans that the other girl picked looked nice and the other girl is like see, now you won't need to come back here. I should have came back with a witty comment like "ya but she works here, she's suppose to say that, even if I wore a dress". I then get her to help me pick out shirts. We have a little fun doing that as well as she was trying to find my size but could't find it on two different styles of shirts and me and her give each other this smirk like look, until we finally find a shirt my size. I then bust her balls one more time at the cashier after her breaking the machine. Her coworker this guy did not seem happy that I was talking to her lol. He just stood beside her while I was paying when she said one of the cashier machines was frozen. I should have accused her of making her coworkers angry or something. Then I noticed she had a pearl ring like one of those pearl earrings you see chicks wear on her left ring finger. I was like ah **** in my head. I shook her hand as I grab my bag and left. Damn too bad. She was hot. By far the hottest girl I have tried to game up to this point. She looked about an 8 with a really nice curvy body and a pretty face today but I saw her a few weeks back when I mentioned her wearing that beautiful dress with her hair done up and she looked like a 8.5. Ah well what can you do. My skills at gaming her definitely could have been better but I didn't think it was bad. I probably just needed to make it more sexual. I don't really have much experience doing this. I'll get one of my wings to show me this hopefully this week. Looking forward to doing some more cold approaches this week with my wingmen and improving my skill set further and maybe even getting a number, who knows :).
 

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Week 12 day 1: I didn't do much cold approaching today since its kind of a holiday. I did go to the computer store with my father and I chatted up the cashier. I got her telling me her name and where she was from. I got 1-2 smiles out of our <1 min conversation. I still felt that it could have been better. I visited my uncle afterwards who had a stroke a few months back. He lives on top of my aunt's nail salon. I got my eyebrows waxed, along with my pores cleaned and got a haircut as well. That waxing **** hurt like hell along with removing the blackheads from my face but I endured the pain and reminded myself that this pain is nothing in comparison to the pain your oneitis caused you. No amount of pain I have felt before has hurt like that. Its because of this pain that drives me to become the man I'm suppose to become. I was getting scared and nervous in the evening today while thinking about my oneitis calling me. She texted me last week saying she would call me this week. Now I'm kind of not wanting to talk to her because I'm scared that the old me will resurface and all the pain and agony will return. I'm afraid that all the progress I have made these last few months will be gone.

Afterwards I cleaned out one of the cabinets in my room. I shredded a crap tonne of old documents and letters. It was like I was shredding away the old me and saying goodbye. I found some money I had stashed away, which I intend to use to buy another suit and perhaps another pair of shoes if I have enough money. I only have one more section of my room to clean and then everything will be nice and tidy as if new again. I'm feeling kind of down right now because I feel I haven't become the person I'm suppose to become. I'm only making very little progress. One of my buddies called me up today, the guy who I mentioned in a few posts back about not wanting to hang out with him because he's such a *****. It seems my new dedication towards becoming better with women and a better man overall has made him want to mimic me. I'll see how long before he gives up again. He said he wanted to come with me doing cold approaches. I told him, if your serious about it, then lets do it but I don't want to hear any excuses like our other mutual friend. I told him, if he pussies out that he's going to get punched in the face or kicked in the balls. I was dead serious on it too. I'm going to go meet up with him along with another PUA that I met last week tomorrow after I go watch transformers. We'll see how things pan out. Hopefully this week, I'll be able to progress and grow even further. Also still no word from the chick who flaked on me this past friday. I'll send her one more text and try to get her out one last time. If she blows it, she's gone. I'll of course continue doing cold approaches trying to get digits so that I have plates.
 

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thunder_god said:
Week 11 day 7: Didn't do much yesterday except purchase another suit. Black striped suit! Today I went back to the mall to pick up the matching pants.
Don't forget to have it altered so that it fits correctly. Also, buy a pimpin' :moon: pocket square.

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Then I get approached by another girl who works there. I ask her to show me some jeans, and then I crack a joke and make her laugh a bit. Then I tell her I need her opinion when I try the jeans she picks for me. I try on the jeans and come out of the fitting room. I crack another joke about them being used for the gay pride parade. Then she grabs me another pair of jeans and I try them out. When I come out, she's no where to be found, and who do you know approaches me? My target. I say I'm being helped by the other girl but since she's busy you can help me. So she shows me a few different pairs of jeans and I try them on. I tease her abit and get her smiling. I finally decide on a pair that she picked but I tell her that if I get made fun of, I'm coming back here to look for her. She laughs, then I ask for her name. She immediately tells me and I'm like "ok now I know who to ask for" and smile. She smiles.
Use this line courtesy of Rex's wingman, "THE INSECT". Ask the hired gun what days that she works. For conversation sake, she says Monday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Tell her, "Okay, I'll be sure to come in here Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

Also Thor, Rex needs to get in your :moon: a little bit. I'm loving the progress that you've made, but you've found a comfort zone. You need to escalate and ask to take these chicks out to lunch during their lunch break. Remember, don't ask, tell.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
Don't forget to have it altered so that it fits correctly. Also, buy a pimpin' :moon: pocket square.

Will do, once I save enough money.

Use this line courtesy of Rex's wingman, "THE INSECT". Ask the hired gun what days that she works. For conversation sake, she says Monday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Tell her, "Okay, I'll be sure to come in here Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.

Also Thor, Rex needs to get in your :moon: a little bit. I'm loving the progress that you've made, but you've found a comfort zone. You need to escalate and ask to take these chicks out to lunch during their lunch break. Remember, don't ask, tell.
That's a great line. I'll save that for the next time I see her or try it on another hired gun. My original plan was to ask out that hottie from the buffalo store but then I saw a ring on her finger, which totally side railed my plans but you are right though, I am getting comfortable talking to hired guns, which is why I have tried to minimize doing this unless the girl is hot.
 

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week 12 day 2: Today was not bad. I started the day by going to the mall, where I found a suit on sale for a really good price. It's grey but they didn't have the pants. Still it was too great of a deal to pass up. Then I met up with my friends and went to see Transformers. I also chatted up the cashier at Hero burger before the movie started. I managed to get a few laughs and smiles in. I had no intention of hitting on her as she was some middle aged women, but I wanted some practice. I've started to make it a habit of chatting up employees now most of the time. Movie was not bad, abit too long, but overall enjoyable. The lead actress was very attractive. Next I headed downtown to meet up with a fellow PUA and my wingman for the day along with one of my friends. I brought my friend along to show him what I've been doing and the progress I've made so far. Surprisingly he actually approached some girls. I approached about 8-9 girls different sets today. About 60% of them were in 2 sets. Most of my one sets ended pretty badly. I would open them but then have a brain froze and then eject, whereas with the two sets I managed to stay in their longer. All my approaches started off pretty $hitty but then as I approached more and more, I got more and more confident and better at it. One of my better approaches today involved two chinese girls walking by Ryerson university's campus. I approached them and said:

me: do you guys know where the library is?
them: umm.. we don't know, we don't go here
me: are you guys from out of town?
them: ya
me: from where?
them: china
me: cool, so what are you guys doing here in Canada?
them: blah blah blah
me: what do you speak, cantonese or mandarin?
them: mandarin
me: I say something in cantonese
them: laughs
me: are you guys sisters?
them: no laughs
me: cousins?
them: no friends
me: best friends right?
them: ya laughs
me: ok have a nice day guys

I eject. Later on the day I approached some women I saw near dundas square leaning against a post with a canada flag.

me: hey look, we both got the same flags
her: smiling
me: how come you got two?
her: I don't know
me: you must have been special or something
her: blah blah blah
me: so how's your day going so far?
her: good, blah blah blah
me: mines good
me: so what brought you here to dundas square?
her: the canada celebration, I just got off work, but I need to get back later
me: get back later? you must have some cruel boss or something
her: laughs, nah, its research
me: what kind of research?
her: its for my post doc
me: PHD eh?
her: ya
me: what are you researching?
her: languages
me: what kind of languages
her: blah blah blah
her: what do you do?
me: I'm a student, studying physiotherapy
her: what are you doing here?
me: I'm just taking a day off and just hanging out here

I forgot the rest of the conversation. I was pretty much making $hit up on the spot. Immediately after her I saw one couple. A guy and a women. It was my first time approaching a couple. The guy was wearing a flag of some country as a cape. I immediately approached him without asking. This turned into a long ass conversation between both of them. After like 10 minutes or so, my wing jumped in and thus began an even longer conversation. The whole conversation must have lasted like 20 minutes or something. Me and my wing switched back and forth between the targets. I felt I established pretty good rapport with them as they both seemed very happy and friendly.At one point, I wanted to eject because I was bored as heck talking to them for so long and tried to eject by mentioning it to my wing, but he keep on insisting to continue the conversation. My wing ended up facebook closing the girl in front of her bf while I distracted him lol. I felt kind of bad about it, since both of them seemed like a really nice couple from out of the country. Oh well, my wing doesn't have the same moral principles as me, so what can you do. After that set, I was extremely taxed and exhausted from talking to them for so long. We all went to grab some food to eat and just sit down and chat. Then I left and went home. I'm starting to find now that I have less and less approach anxiety. I can approach about 2/3 of the time when my wing says to go or if I see a target. This is pretty good considering me only approaching 1/5 2 weeks ago and 1/3 last week. Also I can now bull$hit 50% of the time when talking to sets while the other half of the time my mind freezes. I'm starting to get better at establishing rapport too. My wingman also told me I needed to be closer to the sets when talking to them and to have a firmer stance. By the end of the day my stance was much better and I felt more comfortable. He told me I need to work on touching them more.

So for the rest of the week, my goals are to continue to approach to reduce my approach anxiety, continue working on building rapport, start working on sexual escalation, and even asking for numbers by friday. I got my work cut out for me.
 

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week 12 day 2: Today was not bad. I started the day by going to the mall, where I found a suit on sale for a really good price. It's grey but they didn't have the pants.
Dude, suits are always with the pants and jacket together. What you bought was a blazer or a sports coats. Also, while it's cheap and you live in Canada you need to get a pair of dress winter boots, a raincoat, and the most versatile piece of coating in the winter wardrobe, the peacoat.


http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/


How To Buy Cold Weather Boots - Guide To Buying A Quality Men's Winter Boot - Dress Boots For Cold


http://g.nordstromimage.com/imagegallery/store/product/Large/14/_5504094.jpg


http://www.schottnyc.com/images/800x800/50_45.jpg

The beauty of the peacoat is that you wear with anything. You can rock with jeans, a hoodie, and a beanie, or you can wear with a a pair of slacks, a shirt, and a tie. If you REALLY want to get pimpish, get one of these.

http://images.mypilotstore.com/products/7812.jpg

Leather bombers just go so hard.

thunder_god said:
It was my first time approaching a couple. The guy was wearing a flag of some country as a cape. I immediately approached him without asking.
:rockon: :up: Hell yeah.

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My wing ended up facebook closing the girl in front of her bf while I distracted him lol. I felt kind of bad about it, since both of them seemed like a really nice couple from out of the country. Oh well, my wing doesn't have the same moral principles as me, so what can you do.
Did you ever establish that they were romantically involved? Don't assume that because a man and woman are together, they're in a relationship. Also, boyfriend and girlfriend relationships are a hellva lot different than marriages. There's absolutely nothing wrong with "taking," another man's girlfriend. The way I see it, his game should have been tighter than yours and keep in mind this famous scene from the pimpin' blaxploitation classic, "The Mack"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkgz1FR9TO4

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After that set, I was extremely taxed and exhausted from talking to them for so long. We all went to grab some food to eat and just sit down and chat. Then I left and went home. I'm starting to find now that I have less and less approach anxiety. I can approach about 2/3 of the time when my wing says to go or if I see a target. This is pretty good considering me only approaching 1/5 2 weeks ago and 1/3 last week. Also I can now bull$hit 50% of the time when talking to sets while the other half of the time my mind freezes. I'm starting to get better at establishing rapport too. My wingman also told me I needed to be closer to the sets when talking to them and to have a firmer stance. By the end of the day my stance was much better and I felt more comfortable. He told me I need to work on touching them more.

So for the rest of the week, my goals are to continue to approach to reduce my approach anxiety, continue working on building rapport, start working on sexual escalation, and even asking for numbers by friday. I got my work cut out for me.

Cool, however, your conversation with chicks need to have a purpose, you're not there to make b.s. conversation, you're there to get her moist in the pants, so she'll be ready to take that load to the face. After she's earned it, give her a genuine compliment with no neg and as your wing said, when you give the compliment initiate some kino. Also, I feel as if your ready to bounce these chicks. When your in conversation, at the high point of the conversation say, "Come with me to "Starbucks, Stone Cold, what have you." If she comes, after a while in the location number close. If she can't number close right there. It's very important that when you bounce the chick, that you TELL, not ASK her to come with you. Good luck.
 
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Maximus Rex said:
Dude, suits are always with the pants and jacket together. What you bought was a blazer or a sports coats. Also, while it's cheap and you live in Canada you need to get a pair of dress winter boots, a raincoat, and the most versatile piece of coating in the winter wardrobe, the peacoat.


http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/


How To Buy Cold Weather Boots - Guide To Buying A Quality Men's Winter Boot - Dress Boots For Cold


http://g.nordstromimage.com/imagegallery/store/product/Large/14/_5504094.jpg


http://www.schottnyc.com/images/800x800/50_45.jpg

The beauty of the peacoat is that you wear with anything. You can rock with jeans, a hoodie, and a beanie, or you can wear with a a pair of slacks, a shirt, and a tie. If you REALLY want to get pimpish, get one of these.

http://images.mypilotstore.com/products/7812.jpg

Leather bombers just go so hard.



:rockon: :up: Hell yeah.



Did you ever establish that they were romantically involved? Don't assume that because a man and woman are together, they're in a relationship. Also, boyfriend and girlfriend relationships are a hellva lot different than marriages. There's absolutely nothing wrong with "taking," another man's girlfriend. The way I see it, his game should have been tighter than yours and keep in mind this famous scene from the pimpin' blaxploitation classic, "The Mack"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkgz1FR9TO4




Cool, however, your conversation with chicks need to have a purpose, you're not there to make b.s. conversation, you're there to get her moist in the pants, so she'll be ready to take that load to the face. After she's earned it, give her a genuine compliment with no neg and as your wing said, when you give the compliment initiate some kino. Also, I feel as if your ready to bounce these chicks. When your in conversation, at the high point of the conversation say, "Come with me to "Starbucks, Stone Cold, what have you." If she comes, after a while in the location number close. If she can't number close right there. It's very important that when you bounce the chick, that you TELL, not ASK her to come with you. Good luck.


Thanks again for the fashion tips buddy. I already own a peacoat so I'm all set for jackets and coats. I just need to pick up a pair of winter boats. As for that couple, yes I confirmed it with both of them. They are bf/gf and are planning on getting married although when it was brought up in the conversation, the guy was saying we were giving him pressure. My goal by the end of this week is to number close at least 1 girl. I will practice kinoing today. Meeting up with another guy to go do cold approaches in a little while. Will keep you all updated when I get back.
 

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Week 12 day 3: Today I ****ed up big time. I couldn't get any wings when I went daygaming today. I was suppose to meet up with another wing and my friend for night game, so I had time to kill doing day game. I get downtown at the mall, I see no PUA's there. I'm wtf, is this a PUA holiday or something. So I go and grab a iced tea to drink from starbucks and come back. I noticed they had some event going on in Dundas Square and I also spotted two PUA's but they were engaged in a set so I didn't bother to go say hi. I turned around and saw a tent so I went to see what all the fuss was about. I see some asian girl handing out codes to enter a contest so I go and approach her and ask her what's going on. She tells me about the contest and about this new credit card that you can press two buttons to select what you want to buy with it. I teased her big time and was giving her a hard time, but she was into it. I had my starbucks and I was like "oh I have a drink from your competitors, am I going to be in trouble now?" and stuff like that. At one point, she mentioned she has a starbucks giftcard, and I told her I'm going to have to now report her to her boss and she was like "please don't do that" while smiling. She was invading my personal space pretty much all throughout the conversation. I didn't want the conversation to just be about work, so I started asking her how's her day going and making fun of her. She then pointed out her sister and asked me if they looked a like. I said ya kind of. I then said she's the prettier one to inject that sexual interest in there. I even kinoed her at one point by touching her back shoulder with my hand. She started qualifying herself to me, asking me what would it take for me to sign up for the credit card. I really wanted to ask for the number but I hestitated too long, and the words just would not come out. I wanted to say " I'll tell you what, I'll give you another opportunity to try to convince me to get the card over coffee, what's your number or when do you get off work". I eventually hesitated too long and ended up getting ****blocked by other people who interrupted our conversation and asking about the handouts she was giving. Then I proceeded to enter in my entry for the contest. As I was doing this, she came back to me, and helped me enter the contest and tried one more time to get me to sign up asking me what she can do. Again I chickened out. I left in disgrace :(. I could almost feel it, like she wanted me to ask her out or for her number. It was so close I could almost taste it but in the end I failed. The whole conversation must have been like 10-15 minutes. Now I know the saying about "you better get the number, because you won't ever see her again". Like I mean if I was harassing her or something that's one thing, but I made her laugh and happy and we had a good time and now I won't ever see her again. I wasn't really sexually interested in her. She was probably like a 5.5 or a 6 at best with average height and asian with glasses. Not my type but it would have been nice to get my first number close, and especially it being a hired gun. That would have been awesome.

I left feeling disappointed with myself. I eventually ran into a few PUA's. That creepy asian guy and that guy who helped me with text game and another guy who I met last week. The guy who helped me with text game took off so it was just the three of us. We also saw this guy shooting a youtube video there picking up girls https://www.youtube.com/user/honestsignalz. I decided to go to Ryerson university and do approaches on campus. I spotted a two set and without hesitatation approached them both.

me: do you guys know where I can find the small library?
them: gives me directions
me: is that the small library or the large one? I'm suppose to meet my friend there at the small one (this was bull$hit, I knew there was only one library)
them: there's only one library

The mother hen had her ***** shield up and was giving me a hard time and I managed to reframe the conversation and started making her laugh. I even tried to get the two girls to argue against each other instead of me. After disarming the mother hen and talking to both of the girls and making them laugh. Both of the girls start asking me questions about me. That creepy guy jumps in without me asking him to. He ruined my set and started acting weird and asking weird questions that killed the vibe. So I quickly tried to get the mother hen's attention and started to bust her balls and tease her. I'm getting her to tell me about where she lives, what she's studying, and she's starting to ask me more and more questions while I'm making her laugh more and more. I can tell she's now warmed up to me and we have established a little rapport. I just start asking for her name and shaking her hand when my creepy wingman can't keep his girl focused on him, so she ends up ****blocking me and telling her friend that they need to leave. Then to make matters worst my wingman says to them "since you guys are leaving lets exchange numbers" to both of the girls. The girls got creeped out and immediately bolted as I make eye contact and say bye to the girl who I was talking to.

So we walk around the campus, and inside of one of the buildings. I immediately see two girls practicing dancing and approach them. I ask them are they dancing and what style of dance. We start getting into a conversation about dancing and then again my creepy frigging wingman intervenes without me asking him. The other guy who was with us approached another girl behind us. He totally killed the vibe again by asking weird questions. Eventually the girls got annoyed and told us they needed to get back to practice so I ejected.

I approached one or two more girls but it was very short like 2 words so I didn't bother talking about it. I had really $hitty wings today who didn't know what to do and ruined all my sets. Also both of my nightgame wings flaked on me so I just left and went home. Although I approached less today, I felt my interactions were a lot longer and more meaningful. I was able to kino one set and show sexual interest and tease the hell out of 2-3 sets. I probably would have approached more if I had a decent wing. We'll see what happens tomorrow. I'm hoping to get a number by the end of this week. Oh ya, that pua who helped me with text game told me to spike my potential plate that chinese HB6 who flaked on me, by sending her a weird text like "omg". Then when she asks be like " I think my salsa skills are amazing or something like that and then proceed to ask her out again. Unfortunately I never got a reply back lol. I guess I can cross her off of my list. Probably should have texted her back last friday or saturday but I took someone else's advice. I probably should have stuck to my guns and experimented on her with my own ideas instead of using someone else's.
 

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Week 12 day 4: Today went horrible. I managed to do about 10 approaches. I couldn't get any wings to come out so I was left roaming the mall by myself. I developed huge approach anxiety as a result. Later in the day, I spotted a few PUA guys so I ended up winging with that big machine gun PUA guy. It felt really awkward winging with this guy because he just likes to approach after approach after approach whereas I like to calibrate and think for a few seconds about how to approach more subtle. I didn't even end up doing any two sets with this guy. I just ended up approaching girls on my own while I was with him. For some reason, I couldn't get my energy and vibe up. All of my interactions felt very weak and I didn't even seem eager to talk to them unlike the previous two days. He ended up number closing a 2 set all by himself, and he also told me he made out with one of the girls too. I was like damn. He's a hell of a lot uglier then me, and doesn't dress good neither yet he number closed a cute looking girl whereas I came out empty handed. When I opened sets today, I had trouble keeping the conversation going.

He eventually left, and I ran into another 2 PUA's. we all decided to wing together. I got blown off by two chicks who I approached. Didn't even look at me nor acknowledge me. One of my wings opened a two set who were blowning him off, and I ran into wing him. I got blown off as well, but my wing keep on insisting on following the girls and talking to them. It felt really awkward like we were pestering them. He got pissed off and told me, I don't care if she blew you off, go continue talking to her. Later on, I approached a girl who was holding pamplets and asked for her number and got rejected lol. On my second last set, I opened two girls who were from New Brunswick. They both were taking pics of downtown. I really struggled to continue the conversation with my target, who was giving me like one word answers lol. My wing number closed his girl and keep on lingering around whereas I wanted to leave the set. I looked at him a few times but he just kept on standing with the girls despite the conversation dying. I eventually left. He told me I should be asking for the number everytime even if its dying. I then headed off to my ballroom class. I haven't showed up for 2 weeks so I was really behind. I lacked energy in my dancing and conversations with the girl. This only fueled my depression and made me feel really down. I knew I had to do one more approach by myself before I went home so I ended up trying to chat up the girl who I sat beside waiting for the bus. I hesitated too long and then eventually opened her and made her laugh and then her bf came and took her away. Right now I feel really lonely and empty inside, like I want to give up. I won't give up, but it seems no matter what I do, I'm not reaching my full potential and becoming the person everyone else is saying I will become. Today felt like I was regressing back. I need to learn to be more self reliant on doing cold approaches instead of relying on wings. I keep on seeing guys getting #'s and dates while I'm not getting anything. I don't even know about what I'm going to do tomorrow in terms of doing approaches. It seems most of my wings are busy and so are my friends. They say they are down to do this and that but when I call them out on it, they make up excuses. I even texted a few other wings who I met last week but never went out sarging with. Two of them never replied back, and the one that did, say's he's too scared to do daygame. It's like wtf dude. Why the hell did you go to the workshop and stuff if your not committed to this. Far too many people say stuff, but when it comes down to actually honouring your words, no one fulfills their words with actions.
 

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Just found out from my mom that my uncle from Vietnam passed away. Like seriously wtf! Wow life seriously likes to kick you while your down. Talk about having a $hitty year.
 

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thunder_god said:
Week 12 day 4:

Later in the day, I spotted a few PUA guys so I ended up winging with that big machine gun PUA guy. It felt really awkward winging with this guy because he just likes to approach after approach after approach whereas I like to calibrate and think for a few seconds about how to approach more subtle.
Be like the Approach Machine Gun PUA Guy. Quoting Mystery from "The Game Society, Penetrating the Secret Society of Pick Up Artists," "Don't reply on your emotions right now because all they'll do is f*ck you up." Remember, you're in the process of learning a new skill set and you're trying to replace that new skill set with habits that it's taken you a lifetime, (or in the case of females,) over a decade to learn.

thunder_god said:
Just found out from my mom that my uncle from Vietnam passed away. Like seriously wtf! Wow life seriously likes to kick you while your down. Talk about having a $hitty year.
My condolences potna.
 

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Week 12 day 5. Another $hit day that felt even worst then yesterday. I'm really starting to feel the effects of becoming demotivated and hopelessness. I managed to do about 10 approaches today but I developed serious approach anxiety. I started off the day ok, I approached a girl waiting at the bus stop by myself. My first solo approach. I chatted her up but then didn't really get time to build rapport because the bus arrived. She sat somewhere else on the bus, and i didn't want to seem like I was following her.

I arrived downtown but the two guys I was suppose to meet up weren't here yet. I wait around and start to get bored and developing approach anxiety. One of the guys calls me and tells me he gets off work at 9:30pm. This is Mr. M who I mentioned about approaching with on tuesday. This totally derails my plans since he was a good wing and I could feed off of his energy. He is like the complete opposite of me, always energetic and aloof. The other guy ends up coming an hr late but he also texted a few other guys to come along including Mr. A. I didn't really like this. Anyways me, Mr. A and the guy who I met up with walk around. We end up Ryerson university. Mr. A ends up approaching some girl and runs off, whereas me and the other guys walk around. I get fed up because no one is approaching in my group so I decide to go at it solo. I walk around campus looking for girls, and then I see a girl with a dog. I comment on her dog and then ask her what breed it is. She seems kind of into the conversation but my brain froze so I ejected which was a mistake. We all end up meeting up again and walking around. Two other guys from my group splits and does their own thing. The guy who I met up with approaches one girl at a traffic light, so me and MR.A decide to approach a 2 set. I open the two set by asking the two girls if they are twins because they are both wearing grey. Mr.A then jumps in and says to the girls, on a scale of 1-10 how would they rate me. This made me feel very uncomfortable. We chatted with them for 2-3 mins then left. Mr. A again used this line on another 2 set. It was making me very nervous. Mr. A ends up going to the washroom for a very long time so me and the guy who I met up with walk around and decide to do some approaches together. I open up a set with Mr.A's line. It didn't really work. The guy then copies me and uses it again and it also doesn't work as the girls all walk away.

We end up meeting Mr.A again. The guy who I met up with ends up approaching some girl sitting down while me and MR.A decide to sit down somewhere nearby. We talk for a bit as we wait for the guy, but after a while it seems their conversation doesn't end and I get bored and tired so I take off to look around the mall and eat. I end up running into another wingman who I'm going to call Mr. big T. Me and Mr. big T have been winging together for a few days now. I would consider him an ok wing. He isn't the greatest with women, but he approaches a lot of girls. He also helps motivate me at times when I'm down and tries to get me to continue approaching when I want to quit. So we try to do approaches but at this point, my approach anxiety is too great and I can no longer do anymore approaches. He tells me to approach a fatty to help with it. So I listen to him and do it. I get completely blown off by an ugly fata$$. This was really surprising as it was probably one of the worst rejections I have gotten so far. He told me the fat ones are the rudest lol. This only made my approach anxiety worst. Mr. big T and I walk around downtown looking for clubs. We end up running into Mr. A and a large group of PUA's somewhere in the ballpark of 6-8 guys. We decide not to join them. So Mr. M who I'm suppose to meet up eventually gets downtown and we meet up and another PUA also meets up with us. I have also winged with this guy who is pretty good and is very persistent even when the girl rejects him, he just continues chasing after her overcoming her objections. So we all go around trying to do nightgame. At this point, I was completely overcome with approach anxiety despite Mr. M arriving who I feed off of some of his energy. Despite his best efforts to revive me and get me approaching girls I no longer have the energy no the will to overcome my approach anxiety. I call it a night and head home. I felt like complete $hit for not approaching enough girls and not having better interactions with them. It felt like I was regressing not progressing. My eyes started to get watery on the bus as I was really angry at myself for not getting better. I got very frustrated with my lack of progress and seeing other guys with girls around their arms made me feel even worst.

Right now I am really demotivated and the thought did cross my mind about quitting. Mr. big T mentioned that a lot of guys quit and he said it took his friend who he refers to as Mr. small T 4 years to get good at this. He know refers to his friend as a legend. I have had a lot of wings flake out on me recently and even my closest friends have let me down. This journey to become great with women and a better person in generally is extremely difficult. I know I have made some improvements in my live, like improved social skills, a 3-4 fold increase in my social circle, making people having and brightening up their day when interacting with them, and improved teasing/ ****y funny skills, better fashion sense, but for other things like getting # and dates, and being able to pull girls I have thus far failed miserably. I don't intend to quit, but it would be nice to start seeing some of my work pay off.

I'm going to a weekend salsa class tomorrow with one of my friends. The girl who flaked on me will be there most likely so I'm not exactly sure what will happen and how I will feel when I'm there, but I will try to act normal.
 

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You want to become great with women in 4 months. You must be kidding LOL
You totally reminded me of myself.
 

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Week 12 day 6: Started off the day still feeling pretty $hitty from my lack of results from the previous two days. I met up with my buddy and we were going to go salsa dancing and I was hoping to run into my potential plate HB6 but she wasn't around. Also the place we went to learn salsa we found out didn't actually teach it but instead was a practice only place. We got a refund and left. My buddy and me hit up a outdoor patio to have lunch. I started to feel better but then I got a phonecall from my parents. They were pi$$ed at me for going out again and not helping enough around the house. I've been going out almost everyday. Whatever good mood I had just had quickly evaporated and It made me feel really $hitty again. Me and my buddy started talking about emotional topics about how ****ed up my parents are.

My buddy then told me ok we're going to go start approaching girls agian. I wasn't really in the mood by now but I was like ok lets do it. We went to the distillery district hoping it would have a good volume of women there. When we arrived, we were surprised by the number of cars parked there and had trouble looking for parking. We eventually found a parking spot and started walking around. They had some cuban festival going on with a fair amount number of girls. We wanted to start approaching girls but approach anxiety quickly overcame us. I had enough of walking around so just tried talking to people in general and asking them questions about what they were having or where to go to get drinks. Eventually after an hr or so I got really fed up even with my ever increasing approach anxiety and just said **** it. I'm going to go have a little fun and face my fears. I told my buddy to come with me as I spotted a 3 set. He quickly chickened out and I had to run over to him and pull him over to me. Once he was back, I walked right up to 3 girls and said "hey guys, I have a question for you. On a scale of 1 to 10 how handsome would you rate my friend here?" All of the girls laughed, and we ended up having a fun conversation with the girls for a few minutes. It gave me a nice jolt of energy and I felt a little more confident. Now I decided to be a little more ballsy and tried to use a cheesy pick up line that I heard from a youtube video just to see the girls response.

I was scanning the area looking for targets when I finally honed in on a 2 set. I told my buddy I needed him toy wing me on this one and distract the other girl as I talked to her. I walked up to her and said "excuse me, can you give me some directions?" she looked at me all puzzled. I then followed it up with" I was wondering if you can give me directions to find a girl like you?" she smiled and gave me a wtf look lol. I then said "its cheesy right?, a scale of 1 to 10 how cheesy was that?". Both of the girls started to talk to me as they walked away lol. My buddy tried to initiate one of the girls but when he got interrupted by one of the hired guns, he gave up but I persisted a little more. I walked with them and asked for their names and shook their hands. After a few more seconds I could tell they wanted me to leave them alone so I just ejected. This final approach made me really nervous but I was glad I overcame this. It gave me a rush of energy afterwards and I was pumped.

I told my buddy it was now his turn. He kept on making excuses so I made a deal with him, he only had to say that cheesy pick up line and thats it. He still hesitated but after 20 minutes or so of walking around he finally approached a girl and delivered the line. I was standing in the background and heard the girl laughing hard but he quickly ejected even though it seemed like she was interested at that point. We then left and headed up to Boston Pizza to meet up with my other friends to watch the UFC fight.

Overall I think I approached like 7-8 girls today. Not the greatest number but that last pick up line I felt was very frightening so I'm glad I was abel to overcome the fear of using that line. I think I have identified the root cause of my low self esteem and confidence. My buddy actually pointed it out to me. Its my parents that have been causing the low confidence and self esteem issues. Constant daily put downs and badgering of me for over 2 decades has left me in this state. Also threats and not letting me go out and grow up has had a serious effect on my social skills and ability to grow up. I should have stood up to them when I was still in HS but I was too weak then to speak up. I will need to move out of this toxic environment once I officially start school in December. I will probably never look back after that. In the mean time I'm just going to have to suck it up. I got in **** last night when I got home from my parents. I just kept my mouth shut and ignored them and went to bed.
 

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1) You're too hard on yourself. It's one thing to do an honest introspection, but to constantly beat yourself up isn't doing anything for your self esteem and morale. Be more positive.

2)
suavesuave said:
You want to become great with women in 4 months. You must be kidding LOL
You totally reminded me of myself.
Again, you're being too hard on yourself. Could you press a little harder with these broads and should you, yes. However, considering that you're an introverted hard case newbie that came on to this broad with an extreme case of oneitis, you've made considerable progress.

It took Tyler Durden two years get to good with women and it took Mystery ten years to develop the Mystery Method.

3) Despite having a few "sh*tty days," You've approached twenty-eight women during the course of two days. Who in the f*ck on this (or any other broad,) can honestly say that they approached twenty-eight women over the course of two day period?

Dude, at your present rate, you're going to get some p*ssy by the end of the summer simply because your positioning yourself to get some. Just press harder and be bolder when your in set. Believe it or not dude, you're doing extremely great and you have absolutely nothing to be upset, mad, or depressed about. Hell, Rex would say that you're probably one of the best active DJ's that's currently posting. Keep at it potna. You're an inspiration to us all, especially dear ole Rex.
 

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Maximus Rex said:
1) You're too hard on yourself. It's one thing to do an honest introspection, but to constantly beat yourself up isn't doing anything for your self esteem and morale. Be more positive.

2)

Again, you're being too hard on yourself. Could you press a little harder with these broads and should you, yes. However, considering that you're an introverted hard case newbie that came on to this broad with an extreme case of oneitis, you've made considerable progress.

It took Tyler Durden two years get to good with women and it took Mystery ten years to develop the Mystery Method.

3) Despite having a few "sh*tty days," You've approached twenty-eight women during the course of two days. Who in the f*ck on this (or any other broad,) can honestly say that they approached twenty-eight women over the course of two day period?

Dude, at your present rate, you're going to get some p*ssy by the end of the summer simply because your positioning yourself to get some. Just press harder and be bolder when your in set. Believe it or not dude, you're doing extremely great and you have absolutely nothing to be upset, mad, or depressed about. Hell, Rex would say that you're probably one of the best active DJ's that's currently posting. Keep at it potna. You're an inspiration to us all, especially dear ole Rex.
Thanks for the support buddy. Your continued support really helps push me on this journey and not give up no matter how hard it seems.
 

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Week 12 day 7: I was planning on taking a day off today just to go to the mall and relax and walk around. I can no longer just sit at home in front of the computer watching movies or whatnot. Anyways my buddy ends up calling me just as I'm about to get ready to leave my house. He also calls up another mutual friend (although I'm not really his friend) who is good with women. My buddy picks me up and we meet up with the other guy at the mall. My buddy told me to watch and take good notes. I was asking our mutual friend and picking his brains on how to pick up women. I watched him in action at the Buffalo store. Thank god, that girl who I gamed there last time wasn't working today and instead he worked on a tall blonde chick. He ended up getting rejected but he did ask for her number, which I give him kudos for doing. Next we walked around the mall, he made eye contact with some girl and said hi. She said hi and smiled back. Then she went into her booth where she was working. He walked over to the both spent like a minute talking to her making small chit chat and then asked for her #. She was surprised and asked him what his name was again. She then told him to come back a little later and she would give him her #. I was kind of shocked and how easy it looked. In less then 2 minutes he basically got her #. He later went back and got the number from her. He tried to approach 2 blondes working at another booth but got rejected. He had no approach anxiety and just went for it. He told me at the end of the day, what is your purpose? Its to get the # so you have to ask for it. What he said was true. Next my buddy starts egging me to approach hired guns in the mall asking for their 3. I start developing approach anxiety and couldn't do it. We then all head outside. He tells me to approach another girl but I hestitate. Then finally I see 2 asian girls walk by us and I open them asking if they are korean. Then I get up and I'm about to run after then but their response and body language tell me its a no go so I stop in my tracks. My buddy congrats me for attempting an approach, because he was sceptical of me actually having the balls to approach girls. I have to admit, in the past, I didn't really like that mutual friend of ours. He's currently married but his wife is away on vacation so he thought it would be a good idea to go out cheating on his wife while she's away. He's a cheating, lying, womanising scumbag who has no morals or ethics but he is confident and good at picking up girls. So I guess I will have to not be judgemental and just try to learn from him. He said he'll take me out in a few weeks to go clubbing with him so that I can learn from him. We'll see what happens but I am definitely excited about learning how to improve my game.

Of course when I got home today, my father gave me a $hitstorm about going out yesterday, going on and on for hrs about how I'm a bad son and other bull$hit. I'm just sick and tired of this crap from them. It puts me in a negative mood and lowers my self esteem and confidence. They ***** about me not being more social and having more friends, and yet they yell at me for going out and even taking up dance lessons. Like wtf seriously? All I know is, I ain't stopping because I don't want to be like my old self again sitting at home being all timid and passive with girls and life in general.

I finally finished reading the book how to succeed with women by ron louis and david copeland. The book started off being very good, offering many helpful tips and suggestions such as always be dating more then one women at a time, or flirt with every girl you see, but afterwards it quickly turned into a AFC feminist bull$hit propaganda book. For example, telling you to give her flowers, or send her gifts, having puppets or stuffed animals when going out to start conversations. It seems ridiculous. Anyways I'm going to get back to reading chase amante's how to make girls chase.

My goals for this week are to ask for the #, start using "hi, how are you", as my opener (never used this one yet), work on building rapport, kino, and showing sexual interest.
 

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thunder_god said:
He tried to approach 2 blondes working at another booth but got rejected.
You have to analyze all aspects of the game. You have to ask dude why he felt as if he got rejected.

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Its to get the # so you have to ask for it. What he said was true.
That's something I should have asked you. Are you telling chicks to give you the number? Dude, over the past few days, you've approached close to forty women, by a conservative estimate, you should have ten numbers. For now one you need to do two things.

1) Go for the insta-date. While you have momentum, bounce these chicks to another location.

2) Go for the number close. If you keep approaching at the rate that your approaching, you're going to get numbers just as a matter of principle.



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Of course when I got home today, my father gave me a $hitstorm about going out yesterday, going on and on for hrs about how I'm a bad son and other bull$hit. I'm just sick and tired of this crap from them. It puts me in a negative mood and lowers my self esteem and confidence. They ***** about me not being more social and having more friends, and yet they yell at me for going out and even taking up dance lessons. Like wtf seriously? All I know is, I ain't stopping because I don't want to be like my old self again sitting at home being all timid and passive with girls and life in general.
Is it feasible for you to move out?

thunder_god said:
but afterwards it quickly turned into a AFC feminist bull$hit propaganda book. For example, telling you to give her flowers, or send her gifts, having puppets or stuffed animals when going out to start conversations. It seems ridiculous. Anyways I'm going to get back to reading chase amante's how to make girls chase.
It's been awhile since I read it, but I think that might have been in reference to relationships or seduction dates. Louis and Copeland don't advocate giving chicks random gifts, it's always done within a particular context.

thunder_god said:
My goals for this week are to ask for the #, start using "hi, how are you", as my opener (never used this one yet), work on building rapport, kino, and showing sexual interest.
What are you going to do when she says, "Fine." and keeps walking?
 
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