Enough is enough, time for a change journal.

[Maximus Rex]

Hell Yeah!

While drinking it I ended up picking up a book by cosmopolitan magazine talking about how to exploit guys and tell if he's into you and what to do and $hit. It was an interesting read. Then I noticed a book that caught my eye. The book was called ."how to get out of the friend zone- turn a friendship into a relationship". It skimmed through the book and was actually surprised that a lot of what the book suggested was exactly the same things we preach here. Even more surprising was that it was written by two chicks. They talk going NC, working on yourself such as your fashion, working out, gaining confidence, going out and approaching women and going on dates with other women, then when your ready reenter the picture again with your oneitis. Get her out on a date, flirt with her, touch her and then kiss her, etc. I found the book to be great and I would suggest those currently stuck in friendzone to check it out.

Actually, I've always heard that Cosmo gives good and honest game from a female perspective. It's supposedly great intel.

Anyways I couldn't find any wings downtown and another wing hadn't arrived yet so I thought I would force myself to do solo game. It took me like an hr to do my first approach and it was weak as hell. I spotted an asian girl drinking bubble tea and I approached her side by side and said:

me: that looks good, what is that?
her: taro
me: excuse me?
her: taro
me: oh looks good

Then I froze so I ejected. Took me another 30 minutes to do the next approach but I didn't look at the girl when I said it. There was a bunch of people in front of me and the girl and I just said "god there is a lot of people here", she turned for a quick second then crossed the street lol. Next I approached some white girl who had a purse or something.

me: you have a nice purse
her: excuse me?
me: your purse, its nice
her: excuse me?
me: you have a nice purse (in a really loud voice)
her: thanks

I eject as it seemed like she had hearing problems. So I was feeling pretty $hitty about my approaches so far, and I knew I had to get at least one more approach in, so I walk up and down the street.

I was at a RSD meet up yesterday and dude was saying to stay in set until the chick leaves. Though it will get awkward, fight through the awkwardness. Kinda like what happen with those two chicks in Barnes & Noble.

I finally spot an asian girl wearing a university t-shirt so I immediately approach her.

me: do you go to u of t?
her: ya, why?
me: just asking
her: but I don't know you
her: its kind of strange
me: well I saw your t-shirt so I wanted to ask you
her: do you go to u of t
me: yes
her: oh ok
her: why are you all dressed up?
me: I'm going to a function later
her: what function?
me: a birthday party
me: what are you doing?
her: just walking around and I'm bored
me: really? why don't you come with me to the party?
her: really? oh ok

I was like wtf lol. Seriously just like that and a random chick that I approached on the street is now going with me on a instadate. Now she was by no means attractive maybe a 5 or 5.5 if she put on make up,

Rex told you bruh. A, B, C, Always, Be, Closing. You HAVE to incorporate the insta-date into your repertorie. As you see, some chicks will just be down to come. This is huge because you got her to come a birthday party where the only person that she knew was you. Though you're approach wasn't the greatest, you were to establish enough comfort and rapport to get her to invest and trust in you. My only problem with this is the way you ask her to accompany you to the function.

me: really? why don't you come with me to the party?

Don't say "why," it's phrasing in the request into a question, which in turns gives her the opportunity to tell you "no." Next time say this,

"Really, come with me to the party." It's more authoritative, also you were able to pull off the insta-date, because of the way you were dressed, the confidence that you conveyed, and because you asked.

but man I couldn't have asked for better social proof.

To quote Kenny Redd from "American Pimp" "The pimpin' do wonders."

After me hugging a few girls (something I never really did in the past)

You should have told them to give you some "suga."

the girls started asking how me and her met.

You should have told them that you met her on a covert mission to Afghanistan.[/b]

Then the girls start asking us if we're a couple. I don't acknowledge nor deny it leaving it ambiguous.

HELL YEAH! :rockon:

Two of the girls are like "you should get on that"

You could have replied, "If you're good girls. I'll get on you.

She has a chinese bf so I never made any moves on her. I tell her to sit beside me and I end up chatting her up. I actually found her pretty good looking last night and definitely would not have minded hooking up with her if she was single.

As you get better in game, you'll come to realize that boyfriends don't matter, it's about who has the strongest and best game.

She mentioned that she saw the photos of me in vancouver on facebook.

You should have accused her of silently stalking you.

One of my wings eventually arrived but I didn't feel like introducing him to my group of friends, because I don't want him hitting on all my classmates.

:nono: 1) Sorry potna, but that was just straight up rude. If you don't want DJ's hitting on your classmates, then don't bring them around your classmates.

2) You inadvertently hated on yourself. By you neglecting to make formal introductions, you're sending the message that you hang out with wack people. The people around you will take notice and then wonder why you're hanging out with people that you don't want to introduce to your friends.

3) Remember you're trying to change folks perceptions of you and you have to maintain your congruencey.

she took out her credit card, and the taxi driver is like "you don't have cash?" and she is like no and then looks at me as if expecting me to pay for the ride (no ****ing way am I paying for that $hit)

:rockon: Playa, playa.

She changes and we walk back to the entertainment district.

You know she wanted to get to know the tunder_god carnally, right?

So we all start walking north, but just then I notice a girl walking right in front of us who looked very familiar. I couldn't see her face but only her back. It then clicked in my head, it was my oneitis. She must have just came to see the birthday girl and then seeing that everyone left, left too. I wasn't sure if she had seen me or not but it looked like she had her earphones on and we were walking directly behind her. I started to panic and not know what to do. Eventually she crossed the street while we stayed behind. We then bumped into the birthday girl and a few of her HS friends. She said hi and I wanted to confirm that it was my oneitis so I kind of baited the birthday girl to tell me.

You need to stop trippin' off of this girl.

I skimmed through a book that talks about getting out of the friendzone and it actually pertained to my particular situation with missing out on the window of opportunity with my oneitis and how to reverse it such as going NC so that she feels what it is like without me in her life, and also talks about making her jealous by showing up with another girl.

This will only work if she has some sort of emotional investment in you, which she hasn't.

I cannot believe that I not only # closed a girl but had an instadate with her on the spot.

I can, you put in a gang of work and did a lot of approaches.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to thunder_god again.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 14 day 2: didn't really do much these past two days. Today I picked up what will probably be my last blazer for a while. Didn't see those two girls working at the buffalo store today. I decided I've had enough waiting to be jerked around by that mixed chick so I decided to call her out of the blue and see what sort of bull$hit lies she will throw at me.

I was nervous as heck before doing it and almost didn't do it, but I figured in the end, ah **** it. If she isn't interested, she isn't interested, nothing you can do. I might as well use her as a test subject for using the technique of emotional spikes. So I texted her:

me: hey free to talk?
me: its an emergency
her: hey just studying. Are you ok?

I wait a few minutes to build suspense and also because I was nervous as hell for what I did. Anyways I call her up and ask her if she owns a tennis racket. She can't really hear what I'm saying so repeat it two more times. Then she says yes. Then I tell her I was joking about the emergency. She laughs and says you got me. Then I ask her how's studying going and make small chit chat for a few seconds. Then I redirect the conversation back to playing tennis together. I ask her what her schedule's like. She is like I'm busy studying for the upcoming 2 tests and won't know until my trip (which is in august btw **** that) and says she will let me know. Then I joke with her about playing tennis helps with her studying and destressing. Then she asks me if I own any tennis equipment and I say no and I will probably need to buy some. She then suggests that one of our classmates probably has a racket and I say I'll ask her on friday at the party. Then I ask her if she's coming and she is like I'm seeing a friend off and it collides with the time but that she might just drop by for a bit. Then I'm like goodluck studying and we say our goodbyes.

I'm kind of bummed out about it because I just lost a potential plate and she is pretty good looking and seems very conservative and a goody too-shoe but on the bright side I no longer need to waste anymore time and energy on this chick and now can move on. If I hadn't tried to ask her out one more time I would have been left wondering, but now I have no regrets. Rejection is better then regret. I learnt that from my oneitis.

Tomorrow I have salsa class which I'm exciting about, I might run into that chinese HB6 who flaked on me, as well as another girl who I chatted up outside of my salsa class who I mentioned in a few pages back. Also there might be potentially some single good looking girls. I'm going to do some cold approaches tomorrow right before class. We'll see if I can get any # or instadates.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

for me i'm trying to stop feeling bitter and regretful over not taking action for this area of my life earlier, wish I started this by my late teens or early 20's

 

[thunder_god]

Week 14 day 3: Today it rained so couldn't really do approaches out on the street. Security is extra tight at the mall I frequent thanks to a group of jackass wannable pua's that got the news channels involved a year or two ago and guys constantly get banned there. I only managed to do a cold approach on a two set while I was waiting for my drink at indigo. They were talking about how crappy my university was and I just jumped into there conversation. They left after they got there drink while I was still waiting for mine.

I went to both of my salsa dance classes and as expected, there was a single damn good looking girl there wtf. The instructor was cute though, but I'm not sure how to game a teacher unless anyone of you guys have any ideas and suggestions. That potential HB6 showed up and then left with her friend who was taking salsa wtf. Her friend said her and my potential plate were going to go to a swing class. The potential plate told me like 2-3 weeks ago that she was going to sign up for the beginner class again. Women and their lies. Also that other girl who I chatted up outside of class was no where to be found. Things are really looking bleak. The instructor for casino ruedo was also taking the class and told me to come to his class tmr. I'm not really looking forward to paying another $40 after I just spent $80 for the two classes today. I told him I'll just do a drop in to see how it is, which in this case means theirs attractive looking girls there. Who ever said salsa classes are filled with single attractive women, must have been real lucky or taking out of his ass. So far I've taken salsa classes for 3 terms and every single one of my class has not had a chick better looking then a 6 and even the 6's are rare.

I need to get back to doing street approaches even though they make me very uncomfortable. My buddies have shown me that they have been talking out of there a$$es and have no game even in clubs. So far this week is turning out being pretty $hitty.

I'm almost finished reading chase amante's book and really looking forward to reading the rational male soon.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 14 day 4: Today I decided to try to do solo game. I didn't really have too much time as I had dance class later in the day. Doing solo day game is hell of a lot harder then doing it with wings. There were numerous instances where I saw girls and I had a good opener 50% of the time, however the approach anxiety was too great. I decided to warm up and try to hit on a hired gun, since I never really did this before and I ****ed up with that hired gun who was into me 2-3 weeks back. I see some white chick handing out flyers or something in front of a restaurant. I looked a little overweight but I suppose her face was alrite. I walked in her direction and then she handed me a flyer for some discount off sushi or something. I asked her what it was, and then I said "sounds tempting" but then all of a sudden the words would not come out of my mouth. I wanted to say something like " sounds tempting, but I would rather take you to dinner or how about we grab sushi together". Anyways after 1-2 sec I managed to spew something out along those lines. This caught the girl offguard. It totally kicked her out of autopilot and I suppose it was the first time she ever heard anyone say that to her while working. She laughed, and then said "what right now?". I said "either right now or when you get off work". Then I asked her what time she got off work and she said "in 2 minutes". Then I said "thats perfect, I'm here, and your off in 2 minutes". She laughed again. Then kind of hestitated, so I said, "ok how about some other time then, what's your #". She shakes her head and then I said "ok have a nice day" and ejected. I probably should have come up with some wise ass response like "its a sign from god" or "it's fate" or some other bull$hit like "last chance at love" as I slowly walk away. I should have maintained my frame and kept on persisting. I probably would have won her over instead of giving up after she resisted the second time. The only good thing I probably got out of that interaction was that now at least I am starting to ask for instadates and # which I didn't really do before. I really need to work on staying in the conversation and not giving up so easily.

Ok, so now I kind of warmed up, I started walking up and down the street and then I spotted a girl with one of those plastic casts on her leg. I approached her from the side and opened her.

me: so what happened to your leg?
her: I broke my ankle while jogging
me: you broke it while jogging?
me: how did you manage to do that?
her: I tripped over my dog
she crosses the street, and I follow her.
me: did you train your dog to do that deliberately? (can't remember what I said exactly)
she said something else
me: that's funny
she walks the other way and I eject lol.

After that I had a real hard time approaching any girls. I pretty much spent 10 minutes walking around until I gave up and it was time for me to head to my dance class. I made a mental note that I still needed to do at least 1 more approach for today or else I'm making it up tomorrow. So I head to my casino rueda class. It's some cuban salsa dance that I never heard of before. The class size was very small like 4 people not including me and the instructors. I scan the girls and there's only 2 girls lol and 2 guys lol. One of the girls is tiny like under 5 foot and is with her bf while the other is a girl who I know from my previous bachata dance class that white chick who is a HB6. She also has a bf. I was kind of disappointed with the turn out. That girl who knows me says hi and waves me over to register. I came today as a drop in and not a registered student in the class. Didn't want to fork over another $40 for nothing. I paid her the drop in fee of $10 and registered my name. I quickly scanned the pre-registration list and I see the chinese HB6's name listed who I mentioned flaked on me but she was no where to be found. Anyways I was hoping she still would come in albeit late but no dice. Anyways the dance style was very awkward and weird however I did put up a few cool dance moves. I'll do another drop in class next week to see if my potential plate is coming to the class or not. Hopefully she shows up and I get to spend more time to game her since its a very small class. I'm hoping I don't lose this potential plate because at the moment she's all I have left.

Anyways class concludes, and I leave and try to look for a target before the bus arrives. I spot a girl/women from behind and immediately approach her without thinking and ask her some BS question about the bus stop. She turns around and answers me and I notice she is kind of old so I stop interacting with her. I'm not too thrilled with my lack of approaches today so I will really need to push myself tomorrow. I will have more time tomorrow as well to do cold approaches before the bachelor party that my classmates are throwing. I need to start getting #'s and dates. Things are looking very bleak right now.

I finished reading chase amante's book yesterday night so now I'm going to start reading the rational male. This weekend when I have time, I'm going to start part time job hunting so that I start making money.

 

[Max Power]

You need to take a week off from approaching.

 

[thunder_god]

You need to take a week off from approaching.

I've already taken 4 days off of doing approaches. If I take anymore time off I feel like I'm not progressing.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 14 day 5: So today I had a bachelor's party to attend to in the evening. Nonetheless I wanted to do solo daygame. I managed to do 5 approaches by myself. The first set who I opened seemed a bit more receptive however she walked into a store and I ejected. I had another set that also walked into a plaza but I ejected. I should have followed them. So afterwards I headed over to the bachelor's party. It was all males for the first few hours but then all the females came. My oneitis eventually showed up and I started to feel the tension in the house. I tried to socialize with others and I noticed she eventually came over to me. I gave her a hug, and then we started talking. She seemed very excited to see me and was literally invading my personal space. She was talking into my ear. I probably should have tried to isolate her by asking her to come talk to me outside on the porch or upstairs. I just did not expect her to throw herself at me like that. She was asking me if I was coming back in the fall, and told me she was happy that I was coming back. She told me she would give me all her notes and that I should move in with her, etc. Then she asked me how come I'm not drinking and I tell her I just jugged down nearly a litre of beer real fast earlier and then she tries to get me a beer. Unfortunately the beer she bought is all gone. Now she starts flirting with other guys in front of me. I tried to be indifferent and pretend it didn't bother me so I redirected my attention to other girls. She then starts coming back over to me again and hovers around me and tries to talk to me. Then we danced for a bit, I was trying to show her my salsa moves but she ended up turning around and trying to grind with me. I have zero experience grinding so it didn't work out so well. Afterwards she went to flirt and dance with another guy so I left the room and went into the backyard. A few minutes later, she follows. I notice she is standing on the outside but then slowly comes closer and closer until she is right beside me bumping into me. She then tried to strike up a conversation with me. Then she tried to flirt with the guy in front of me in front of his gf, so I talked to his gf instead. Then she started bumping into me again. She noticed I didn't give her much attention so she told me she was leaving and left the backyard. I actually wanted to leave right before she said that so I just left. I said my goodbyes and left.

I felt kind of bummed out about not closing her tonight. It was a huge mistake but I was really caught off guard.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 14 day 7: Those feelings for my oneitis have been quite intense for the past 2 days since I ****ed up that opportunity because I was caught off guard and was unsure of what to do. It feels like a heroin addiction or something. Its so damn strong. I knew I had to get out of the house today and go do some cold approachs to help ease my mind off of her. On my way to the mall, it was raining today and luckily I had my umbrella. There was a girl walking towards the street lights covering her head with a hoodie. I knew I had to approach her, but those damn mental blocks again. It took me about 3 seconds before I finally overcame those mental blocks. I could already sense the tension building up during those few seconds I hesitated. I called out to her but no response. From my previous experience from doing cold approaches, I knew I had to do it again until I got her attention. So I yelled out louder and offered her my umbrella. She smiles, came over and then said thanks but she's only walking over to the other side to Harvey's. When we walked across the street, she walked away and I made my way to the mall. Inside the mall, I was kind of pumped a little and I should have used this momentum to do approaches but I instead I thought I said go inside the Buffalo store to build some more momentum. When I came in, I didn't see that girl who I'm interested in but the other younger girl. I started to get nervous and started looking around the store. She, along with every employee there were busy. She later came up to me and asked me if I needed any help. My mind froze and out came an auto-reply "I'm ok". A few seconds later I was like crap after she walked away to help someone else. She looked over at me 2-3 times and smiles later on, but my body would not move for some damn reason. What happened the charming and playful guy who she knew a few weeks ago? I had turned into a stumbling idiot. I'm attributing this to my recent encounter with my oneitis. I have had difficulty trying to not think about her. I did end up texting her yesterday afternoon, after consulting with my best friend and speaking with another wing. I wanted to get a consensus on the situation before I made a move. All of my friends who I spoke to in person, told me from what I told them, she could not have been anymore clearer of her intention to ****. My best bud told me she was flirting like crazy with the other guys because I wasn't giving her much attention. All of them said I should have tried to close her that night when she mentioned she was leaving. It makes me feel like $hit now. Why is it that I continue to make these huge stupid mistakes? Yes I have learnt from my previous mistakes, but I keep on making new ones that are costing me these opportunities. I should have tried to learn how to grind last week when I went to the nightclub with my friend and he tried to get me to grind with that fat black girl, but instead of being open minded about it and not scared of throwing myself into uncomfortable situations, I chickened out. I paid the price for it on friday night when my oneitis tried to grind with me and I didn't know what to do. It made me look like an amateur. I did end up watching a few youtube videos last night and tried practicing it. I guess I will be hitting the nightclub this upcoming week and looking to grind with a few girls to practice.

The grinding part wasn't even my biggest **** up that night, it was not saying to my oneitis when she mentioned she was leaving "hey wait up, I'm leaving to" or "I'll walk you home, I'm leaving as well". I could have even lead her outside to the porch or upstairs to a room to pretend to talk and then made my move on her, but at the time this did not occur to me. Now I'm left kicking myself again.

Anyways my best bud told me to text her and ask her to come out next friday to a nightclub. He told me to text her something like "hey, I'm going to this nightclub with my friends on friday, come join me". I told him that was absolutely one of the worst advice he's given me. First of all, last time I brought a girl with these guys, they all made moves on the girl, with one guy even getting the girl's # and telling me that he was going to **** her. This makes me very untrustworthy of these guys. They told me they wouldn't do that because they all know how much I like her.

Secondly, it was bad because there would be a bunch of other dudes there trying to pick her up and I would constantly need to fend them off. He said, other dudes won't come in, because they will be there. In either case I did not follow his advice which was awful btw. He did however suggest as an alternative that I invite her out last night to have dinner with them at a restaurant near her place. There would be another guy there who I don't know. This made me also not very onboard with this idea. They said they would leave later on so that we were alone. It was a viable option, but I wasn't completely sold, so I called another wingman up. He told me to do something similar as well, but instead he told me to ask to go to her house. My oneitis had mentioned on friday that there was a room for rent at her place and she told me to consider moving in with her. So I had my excuse.
After discussing with my wing, we came up with this text.

her: Hey! goodmorning, did u have fun last night? How late did u stay (11:51am)
me: Hey, last night was fun, I got abit tipsy. I left a few minutes after u and met up with some friends. Hope u had fun (3:32pm, I didn't know what to reply back and was consulting ppl hence the late response, I'm assuming she got pissed that I didn't reply back earlier so she didn't reply back)

me: U mentioned a room being available for rent last night? (5:12pm)
her: lol did I (5:19pm)
her: next week I'm moving out to my roommates room, he's moving out so my room is available
her: starting august
me: I'm meeting up with some friends later today at a restaurant on bathurst
me: I can stop by for a bit to have a look at the room afterwards. I'll bring some food but can't stay long as I need to go to the salsa on st.clair festival.
her: Tonight prob won't work - I won't be home in the evening
her: But would u consider moving out a month b4 classes
her: I know it's not ideal but I also know this place doesn't stay available for too long
me: If its the right fit, then I don't mind
her: ok
her: I'll try to show u next week bc that's when he's leaving and my landlord will be showing the room to other ppl
me: sure, give me a call and we'll set something up next week


So it appears I got rejected again for the third time this week lol. I guess at this point, I won't be contacting her again until she reaches out again and if she does try to hint at the possibility of meeting up, otherwise I'm not giving her much of my attention. One of the positive things I can however take away from that night was grabbing her hand and holding it like it was now from dance class that I don't even think much about it. I guess those lessons paid off at least in this respect. I do know for a fact, that the next time I see her in person and we are alone I am definitely going grab and hold her hands, and if we aren't in private, I'm going to grab her hands and lead her away someone where its just the two of us. I am also certain I will be going for that kiss no matter what. I don't care if it ends up sloppy or doesn't look perfect. I'd rather just go for it and not have to deal with this $hit ever again. I'm either going to touch her chin and turn her head around, grab her shoulders and pull her in, or grab her waist in pull her in. At this point, I really don't care, just give me an opportunity and I will complete my mission. Even if she rejects me at least I tried, and I will definitely try again if I get rejected for 3-5 times because reading posts and articles have told me you need to go for it again if she resists a few minutes later and not let it effect you. Until she blatantly tells me to stop, I'm going full steam ahead.

er.

 

[thunder_god]

Ok so back on topic for today at the Buffalo store. Later on another guy ended up helping me. I did eventually try to get that girl to help me, but she looked at the guy helping me and passed me along to me (there commission based). I need to stop hesitating so long. After that, I walked around the mall. I was determined to do at least 2 more approaches solo. I walked around the mall twice, before I finally was able to approach someone. I see some young asian girl walk by and she's wearing a uniform from one of the stores. She looked like she might have still been in HS or something. I quickly catch up to her and ask her "what's it like to work at legoland?" and then just spilled out random crap, but then someone got in the way between us and she ended up walking away. I probably should have tried to continue to talk to her but I was also feeling kind of uneasy talking to her because I suspected she was still in HS. I'm looking to get arrested and labelled a pedophile. Next I did another lap around the mall until I finally had the courage to approach another girl. I noticed she had a super mario picture plastered on her ass in her shorts. I quickly walked up to her before I had too much time to hesitate and said something about super mario bros. I forgot what it was. She looked confused and then I said on your pants or something and she laughed. I thought she was going to continue to walk but instead she paused and I ended up walking away lol right before her husband came by lol. Good thing I walked away. I barely hit my minimum 3 solo cold approaches this week as the mall was closing up. This upcoming week I'm planning on upping the approaches to either 4 or 5, and trying to stay in set longer, and also try different openers instead of always using situational or random openers. I also want to practice holding the girls hand when I'm shaking their hands.

I also told my best bud that this upcoming weekend, he is taking me to a nightclub and I am not to leave the club until I have grinded with at least one girl there, and if I hesitate he will need to physically drag me over to the girl. I am so sick of being afraid and letting my fear hold me back. I'm even more sick of always making stupid rookie mistakes that have cost me many opportunities and have lead to heartache after heartache.

Well it would appear a strange event happened later tonight. I somehow managed to convince my parents to let me move downtown again. I guess they must have gotten sick of dealing with me as much as I have with them. This will make doing daygame and nightgame a whole lot easi

 

[thunder_god]

Week 15 day 2: For the last 2 days I have been busy reading the rational male. I just finished reading the entire book today. The book did offer some good insight into inter-gender dynamics but there wasn't a whole lot of practical advice given other then maybe the rules near the end. I'm looking forward to doing some cold approaches tomorrow again. My goal for this week is to do a minimum of 4 approaches each time I go out. I really need to start throwing myself into really uncomfortable situations so that I can continue to grow and learn from it.

I also have 3 hrs of salsa classes tomorrow. Hopefully that chinese potential plate will show up for the later class if not then for tomorrow's class. Otherwise I'm not wasting money for thursday's casino rueda class. I really need to start getting dates from girls, so that I don't focus on one particular girl.

I have about 5-6 places scheduled for viewing this weekend for rooms/apartments downtown. Once I get this all sorted out, I'll be able to do daygame/nightgame to my hearts content and also not have to deal with my parent's bs. My father told me my mother was crying in the little of the night because I've been going out a lot and haven't found a job yet lol. There yelling tactics aren't working on me anymore so now they are trying to use tears to make me back down and live under a rock again. My mother tried to guilt me last week by saying I should go get a job so that I can pay for my parent's vacation WTF. They never took me on a vacation and now expect me to go get a job so that they can relax? Other people's parents take their kids on numerous vacations but in my family its backwards, your expected to care for and pay for your parent's leisure activities. **** that!

My mother has also been giving me a hard time about seeing a psychiatrist saying its going to make me worst and that they won't let me back into school if they find out. Really ignorant comments. Most people's parents would be supporting there kids if they had a medical issue, whereas my parents just kick you while your down. This environment is really toxic and I need to get out of here fast.

Lastly I got a copy of neil strauss's "rules of the game" and I'm looking forward to reading it during my days off of doing cold approaches.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 15 day 3: After spending the last 2 days reading about pick up and theory I was really eager to test a lot of it. I wanted to push my boundaries and limits today so I wanted to do mainly direct openers. My mother was trying to screw me over again by taking off without me and not telling me about it thinking I wouldn't leave the house. I said **** that and took the bus and then the subway to get downtown. I made a vow and commitment to this, and no one is gonna get in my way of achieving this goal, NO ONE!

Anyways so I head downtown and I wanted to use a direct opener. I did have serious approach anxiety and doing cold approaches without a wing man is very difficult for me. Due to my mother screwing me over earlier, my cold approach practice time was cut in 1/3. I only had an hr to do it. I wasted about 15 minutes walking around trying to pick targets and also to force myself to do it. Since I'm doing direct openers now, I usually try to ask for instadate or # closes, I make sure I go after someone who I'm somewhat attracted to. Anyways I walk around the surrounding mall and then head over to Ryerson University's campus. I spot some tall blonde chick. From afar, she looks ok, but then when I actually approach her and talk to her, she doesn't look that attractive and had acne. Anyways I was a man on a mission and determined to do a direct opener. The conversation went something like this:

me: hi, how are you?
her: I'm fine, how are you?
me: I'm good
me: I saw you walk by and you caught my eye so I came over to say hi
me: my name's thundergod (extend my hand out)
her: tells me her name
me: so tell me something interesting about yourself?
her: I'm going to become an accountant
me: CA or CMA?
her: I think she said CA (can't remember)
me: so why accounting?
her: I'm good with numbers
me: but you could study math
her: said something ( I forgot)
her: what do study?
me: I'm studying physiotherapy
her: wow
her: why did you study that?
me: because I want to help people, and make a positive change to their lives
me: ok, well if you could do anything what would it be?
her: I like children
me: so you want to be a teacher or something?
her: ya
me: do you want children?
her: ya
me: how many children will you have?
her: a lot
me: so as many as you can handle
me: what are you doing now?
her: I'm meeting my friend now
me: listen, I only got 15 minutes, lets go grab a coffee right now
her: I can't
me: ok it was nice meeting you and I eject

I learnt from this set to ask her what they are doing afterwards and if they say they are busy or something then I will ask for the # instead.

Ok so now I'm thinking that wasn't so bad, so I call up my friend to tell him about it. I spent like 10 minutes or so. Waste of time, should have used that to do more approaches.

Ok so now I'm walking around again and looking for targets. I'm still suffering from approach anxiety and chicken out of several potential targets. Then I cross the street and I notice a chick behind me. She had a somewhat cute face, but she was abit overweight like 20lbs or so but I said ah **** it. I slowed down my pace, waited for her to walk till she was right beside me then I turned towards her and approached her. I can't remember the whole conversation but it went something like this:

me: hi, how are you?
her: hi (looks at me all funny, then removes her earphones)
me: I saw you walk by and you caught my eye so I just wanted to say hi
me: my name's thundergod (while extending my hand out)
her: my name is blah blah blah
me: so tell me something interesting about yourself?
her: ummm.... something interesting
her: well I just moved to Toronto
her: I've been travelling around and I'm not in school right now
her: ok now tell me something boring about yourself?
her: you can learn a lot of someone by how boring they are ( or some crap like that)
me: hmmm.... I don't really have anything boring about me, I'm pretty interesting ( I didn't know how to reply back to this question, it seemed like a $hit test, I wanted to say something like "the most boring thing I have done was come up to talk to you lol, this question totally threw me off and she flipped the script and made my qualify myself to her, I should have probably said something like "I'll tell you later").

Me and her had some back and forth banter.
Me: so what are you up to right now? ( I asked this so I could figure out whether I should ask for an instadate or # close)
her: I'm meeting up with a friend just by that intersection over there ( I knew from my previous cold approach that an instadate probably wouldn't work so I calibrated and instead tried to shoot for the number instead)
Me: ok, well listen I got to go, so let's exchange contact info
her: ok, and stops walking
Me: I take out my phone and ask for #
Me: I decide to then just hand her it so she can spell her name
her: she puts in her contact info
her: send me a text with your #
Me: ok (I send her a text)
Me: ok bye (I probably should have hugged her, but it felt awkward lol)
her: bye

I was actually very surprised by her willingness to give me her number. It's like one of those moments where your like "really?" I can't believe it only took something like 2 minutes to get her #. I walked away but then immediately called my buddy. I was estatic! I can't believe I just # closed a girl and my second one in 3 weeks. I've done about 70 or so approaches in the last month and now finally I'm starting to see the fruits of my labour. Now I was bumped. I could feel the adrenaline rushing in, I was on a high right now. My goal was to do a minimum of 4 approaches, and so far I had done 2. 2 more to go. I immediately looked for my next target. I walk back to Ryerson. I spot some tall blonde chick who had a model's figure and ok looking face. I tried to approach her but then chickened out. Just then as I walk away from the model, I spot a cute brunette carrying some luggage. I immediately approach her without thinking. Since I saw an opportunity, I used a situational opener.

me: so where are you going?
her: kendo (takes off her earphones, looks at me and laughs)
me: kendo eh, like with that wooden sword and stuff
her: ya that japanese martial arts (smiling) here at ryerson
me: cool, awesome
her: do you go to ryerson?
me: no I go to u of t
her: nice
me: so you must be pretty dangerous then
her: laughs
me: you could probably hurt me
her: laughs
me: I should probably stay away from you ( I pretend to distance myself)
her: laughs

At this point, I could tell she was really into the conversation as she kept on laughing even though what I was saying didn't seem very funny

me: do you study any other martial arts?
her: I used to study krav maga, do you know what that is?
me: ya, that Israeli martial arts
her: yes (smiling)
me: I study kung fu at u of t
me: you have an accent, where are you from?
her: I'm half russian, and half Israeli
me: oh awesome
her: what about you?
me: I'm so and so
me: what's your name (extend my hand out)
her: my name is, what's yours?
me: my name is thundergod
her: can't remember what she said but she said she was married

I was surprised by this, I didn't actually look at her finger but she looked very young. Anyways from my previous experience doing cold approaches I was determined to not eject so soon because in the past whenever a girl mentioned a bf or something I ejected. I was determined to stay in set to get some more experience being in these situations and not be nervous.

me: thats ok, I'm sure he's ok with you talking to some random stranger from the street
her: laughs
me: so does your husband also do kendo?
her: yes (laughs)
me: so is that a criteria or checklist you have for marrying someone?
her: yes (laughs)
her: there are many pretty girls in my kendo class
me: maybe I should come to your kendo class then
her: laughs and nods head
me: you can introduce me to them
her: laughs

At this point, didn't see any real purpose to stick around as I wouldn't be asking her for her # nor asking for a instadate. so I ejected.

me: well I got to get to class, it was nice meeting you (her name). I shake her hand and leave

 

[thunder_god]

It was too bad, she was married. She seemed like she was really into the conversation and kept on smiling and laughing no matter what I said. She was cute too. Better looking then the previous two girls I had approached. Definitely someone who I would have ****ed and plus me and her had something in common. If she had mentioned a bf or something I probably would have still stayed in set and tried to ask for her # or do an instadate. I looked at my watch and at this point, I was out of time and needed to head to class so I took off. Didn't quite make it to 4 approaches, but I felt my approaches today were more ballsier and plus I also number closed a girl. I'm going to do 1 more approach tomorrow to make up for today. Overall a great start to the day. I managed to make two girls happy today. One of them got an ego boost by me hitting on her, while I got a confidence boost when I number closed her, while the other one left feeling alot happier then before. This is one of the reasons why I love doing cold approaches. I make their day. Not sure if I'm going to call or text that chick who I # closed. I didn't really find her that attractive but she was a little bit better looking then that girl who I had an instadate with 2 weeks ago. I actually don't remember how the girl from today looked like lol. It would have been nice if I had # closed that last girl. Now I know for sure I would have called that girl to ask her out.

Anyways I headed to salsa class. Not really much to report from that, other then my salsa instructor looked very good today. I couldn't help staring at her rack and ass throughout class. If anyone has any suggestions or tips for gaming a dance instructor, please comment and share. That girl who flaked on me did show up at the end of class to wait for her friend but she didn't come to talk to me, so whatever. I might see her tomorrow in the dance class, and if so, I'm going to use my new improved gaming skills on her.

It feels like I have improved yet again. If this was a video game, then it feels like I just leveled up. Just a month ago, I was completely terrified of using direct openers even with wings. Now I'm able to get girls attention and walk and talk with them or stop and talk with them. I can now use direct openers without a wingman and I actually feel like I like direct openers more now after having tested it today. It feels like I'm being upfront about everything and not having to beat around the bush, which makes it easier for me to talk to them afterwards. Now when I'm approaching girls I always have an end goal of either getting there # or doing an instadate. I'm going to be more selective of who I approach as I get better with this, making sure I find the girl at least ****able. I was really pumped after doing those approaches and wanted to actually do more but I was late for class so had no choice. I'm really looking forward to doing some more tomorrow. I think I actually enjoy doing approaches solo due to the fact that I no longer need to rely on anyone and I have total freedom and don't need to waste my time meeting up with wings. I think I will continue to push myself and put myself in really uncomfortable situations so that I can continue to grow.

I'm really looking forward to doing some more cold approaches tomorrow and start getting # and dates with girls who I find attractive.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 15 day 4: Today wasn't the greatest. Started off the day getting into an argument with my mother about me going out a lot for dance lessons. She said my father was yelling at her for letting me go out all the time. I think this may have contributed to my lack of success for today as it really messed with my head.

My goal was to do minimum of 4 today plus 1 more to make up for yesterday so a total of 5. I developed huge approach anxiety that was a lot worse then yesterday. There also seemed to be a lack of abundance of cute to attractive looking women on the street was well and I didn't want to use a direct opener or a fat or ugly chick. I finally managed to overcome my approach anxiety and approached some blonde chick on her phone. She was probably like a 6. I said hi to her and she just looks at me with this dirty look and then looks back at her phone. I didn't really know how to react to that so I just walked away. I probably should have tried to persist a bit more but didn't know how to respond to that.

That really huge my ego and it took me another 15-20 minutes before I was able to approach another girl. I spot some blonde chick in front of me so I quickly walk up to her so that me and her are side to side. I say hi. She looks at me. Then I immediately say " I saw you walk by and you caught my eye so I came over to say hi". She doesn't really respond so I extend my hand out and introduce myself. She doesn't say anything so I ask for her name. She tells me it but then says she needs to walk across the street and was busy so I said ok goodbye.

I looked at my watch and I was late for my dance class so I hurried to class. On my way, I walked by U of T's campus. I see a brunette in front of me. I quickly walk up to her and say hi. She kind of jumps up and is startled. I should have waited for 1-2 sec after I was beside her before opening her and I should have said "are you ok? or calm down". I used the same line as before but she mentioned she had a bf. I was determined not to leave the set this time though so I asked her how long they have been together. I asked her if she was thinking about getting married. I didn't really know what else to say to her at this point so I ejected. I felt horrible about my progress today.To make matters worst, that chinese potential plate didn't come to the dance class. I don't think I'm going to come to this class again as its a waste of time and money.

After class I headed home. When I got off the bus, I noticed a brunette in front of me wearing a dress and heels. She was walking kind of awkwardly so I opened her:

me: having a tough time walking with the heels?
her: smiles, not really
me: you have this strange walk ( I try to imitate her)
her: its probably because of the sidewalk
me: did you come from a party?
her: ya, a party from work
me: what do you do?
her: I work for Canadian Tire at the head office
me: Where's that?
her: Yonge and Eglington
her: how about you?
me: I just came from dance class
me: so are you like a buyer or supplier or something
her: ya,

she then turns away and says bye and I walk away. She was probably one of the better looking ones I approached today, probably a 6.5-7. I'm going to go see a view apartments tomorrow and then head over to a jazz festival to do some cold approaches.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 15 day 5: I started the day off by visiting one of the malls that I frequent to meet up with a wing man. I ended up purchasing a pocket square. It added nicely to the blazer that I was wearing and I was commented on how well dressed I was by the employee as well as my wingman. Me and my wing were originally planning sarging in the mall until my appointments to view apartments downtown, but due to time constraints, we each only got to do one approach each. I had made it a new objective to start sarging girls who I find somewhat attractive so I was not going to approach any girl that was under a 6. I eventually spoked two girls and they both looked like 7's or higher. I opened them with "hi, have you met my friend such and such here?", they both said they both had bf's and turned and started walking away while I said hold on. My wingman just stood there and didn't even try to help me. Next I forced my wingman to open a girl after he kept on chickening out. He commented a girl that she was cute and after she stopped, he just let her go.

Next we headed to my apartment viewing appointments downtown. The three places I saw were atrocious. It was even worst then my old apartment. I didn't think I could find a place worst then that, but apparently there exists such a place especially considering how overpriced rent was. It made me feel kind of depressed that I might end up having to live in a $hit hole again.

Next we hit up the jazz festival. I met up with the people from my salsa class and my potential plate ended up being there. She came up to me and said hi. I actually got immediately turned off lol. She face looked kind of chubby and I saw her back and it was covered in acne. I completely lost interest in her. Well I guess there goes one of my potential plates. Now I have nothing. Anyways the group from my salsa class were acting very fobbish and childlike and me and my wing ended up ditching them to do some sarging. My wing kept on making excuses as to why he couldn't approach and it was killing my vibe. I eventually spotted a two set with a very attractive tall blonde chick who was probably a HB9-10. Initially I chickened out but then when I saw the two girls again I finally opened them.

me: hi, have you met my friend so and so here?
her: nope and walks away

I think I said something else but I forgot. I told him to go approach some girls but he kept on chickening out to the point where I got pissed because he was bringing my mood down. I decided to make it easier for him and approached two average looking asian girls with the same line. One of them stopped but my wing man just stood there like an idiot and didn't say anything so I introduced myself and extended my hand out while the girl walked away. My wing should have engaged the other girl. I called out to the girl "wait come back here". Afterwards my wing said it made him feel uncomfortable that I was being persistent like that. He was scared we were going to get arrested or something. Me knowing from experience sometimes you need to be persistent so I knew I did the right thing. If anything I should have walked and followed her and kept trying. I finally told him go over there to the hired gun and use a direct opener.

He goes over there and instead asks the girl questions about what they were selling. At this point I had enough and left with him. As we were walking back to the car, I spotted a hot attractive brunette walking by. I had enough of letting him ruin my evening of sarging so I approached her. I opened her with hi, she turns around but her body continues to walk forward and my approach ended up being botched as I walk away. Next time I'm using hand signals as well to stop them.

Then I hesitate on approaching the next two girls I see. Then I spot some girl with a dog who was somewhat attractive probably a 6. I open her with asking her what dog she had. She stops and answers but as I walk towards her, her dog jumps and lunges at me. Luckily I had stopped right before he attempted to rip my face off. I walked away immediately after that. I had just got ****blocked by a dog. Like seriously who the hell gets ****blocked by a dog?

I left the jazz fest with my wing man feeling down and frustrated with my lack of results. Next I headed to the birthday party thrown by one of my classmates at a bar. My oneitis wasn't there so I was mingling with people. I used this opportunity to work on my social skills and attempt deep diving. Eventually people started talking with others beside them and I couldn't hear what they were saying so I ended up getting left out later on. Then people started to leave. I initially wanted to bolt but I wanted to wait and see if my oneitis would show up. Eventually I got bored and couldn't take it anymore and left. A few of the guys had gone outside to smoke a cigar.

I went over to them to say my goodbyes including the birthday guy. As I came over to say hi, I saw my oneitis talking to them. I guess she had just come. Anyways I just said goodbye, while shaking all the guys hands and took off. As I was riding the subway to the bus station, all those old painful feelings started to return. The feelings of how I ****ed things up so badly with a girl who was initially very interested in me. I felt like crying. Anyways I arrive at the bus stop and wait for the bus, and just then one of my female classmates taps me on the shoulder. I turn around and we end up talking. She sits beside me on the bus and we talk for my entire trip on the bus. I practiced my conversational skills with her, trying to let her do most of the talking. Although she did talk more then me, I felt I could still have been more quiet and let her do more talking. It was probably something like her doing 60% and me 40% of the talking. I need to bring this back down to 80/20%.

This concludes tonights journey. I returned home feeling like $hit and that trying to become great with women is extremely difficult and hopeless. I was preying to the stars as I made my way home to help me become great with women and to help me conquer and beat my oneitis. I know I need to get a way more attractive girl in order to move on from my oneitis or take my seduction and gaming skills to an unprecented level in order to get my oneitis, but unfortunately I'm unable to do neither one at the moment, and it feels like I'm just stuck in limbo right now unable to move on but continue to suffer the pain and agony of my earlier defeats. It feels like I'm not making as much progress as I would like and things only get more and more difficult. I'm not sure what to do at this point.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Ive been approaching many women at San Diego Comic Con lately

 

[Maximus Rex]

You Need to Remix Your View on Things

I returned home feeling like $hit and that trying to become great with women is extremely difficult and hopeless. I was preying to the stars as I made my way home to help me become great with women and to help me conquer and beat my oneitis. I know I need to get a way more attractive girl in order to move on from my oneitis or take my seduction and gaming skills to an unprecented level in order to get my oneitis, but unfortunately I'm unable to do neither one at the moment, and it feels like I'm just stuck in limbo right now unable to move on but continue to suffer the pain and agony of my earlier defeats. It feels like I'm not making as much progress as I would like and things only get more and more difficult. I'm not sure what to do at this point.

You know how Rex will sometimes, make a post exposing another member of the board's hypocrisy or out-and-out mendacity by using his own posts to prove my point? Well, I was going to do one about you, expect instead of exposing you as a fraud, I was going to make a thread, using the posts in your journal to shoot holes in this b.s.

but so far all my efforts have been in vain.

However, while I was in the mist of the making the thread, I accidentally deleted, not once but twice. However, let's review anyway,

Although I think I have a good understanding on the material I have read, I need the practice and field experience to perfect it. They say pain is the best teacher, and I sure as heck learnt the hard way and suffered tremendous pain. I can only hope that I learnt my lesson and never make the same mistakes again. Never in my life have I been at my lowest then in these past few months. Everything I said or did, seemed to be working against me. It was as if the universe was trying to screw with me, not just with dating but in life in general. I guess its time now again to pick myself back up and to try again but learning from my mistakes and never repeating them.

My main goals from this point on include:

1. Going out and meeting new people

2. Trying to strike up conversations with strangers, especially girls so that I eliminate this fear of approaching and talking to strangers and also to practice perfecting my conversational skills.

3. Try to meet new girls and getting numbers

4. Practising all the techniques and theories that I have now learned such as refine my skills at asking girls out on dates, being an awesome date and having fun on dates, escalating on dates, learning how to go for the kiss and becoming a great kisser, and ultimately sleeping with the girl so that I can potentially have a relationship with the girl

5. Try to become friends with a few girls so that I can use them for social prove, getting them to hook me up with their friends and even using them to make my targets jealous

6. Expand my social network

7. Work on my body and fitness especially trying to get a six pack.

8. Picking up new hobbies to improve myself such as taking salsa lessons, music lessons, learning a new language, cooking lessons, signing up for toastmasters to work on my confidence and presentation and speaking skills and taking tai chi classes to help relax my mind.

9. Reading a lot of self help books to enrich my mind instead of watching tv shows all the time.

10. Finally, study my ass off in school, so that I can at least obtain an A- average assuming they will let me continue my program.

Week 1: My goals for this week include:

Getting out of the house instead of sitting on my ass in front of the computer.

With the exception of Number 4, (which will come with experience,) which one of these benchmarks have you not met? You need to stop being so emotional dude and I sincerely hope that you haven't stop going to therapy. Part of your problem is that you want a girlfriend, when that's the last thing you need because you'll f*ck around and fall in love with the b*tch and regress back into your AFC status or worse, which will cause the broad to feel that you're desperate, clingy, and needy.

What you need is about a year or so of nothing but banging broads, possibly even a polyamorous relationship with you and two chicks, THEN you should consider an exclusive relationship with a woman. Your emotional and mental immunity haven't been strength to the point to where you could deal positively with a chick if and when see breaks bad on you. If you got with a chick now, and she left you, you're entire world would come crumbling down and you would be in a worse situation than you were when you come to So So Suave wanting advice on your oneitis.

Instead of being proud of meeting all but one of your goals, (and even then you're striving daily to meet that goal,) and being excitement about moving out, (and having a spot to bang chicks,) You're over here trippin off of that one exclusive b*tch. That isn't sexy dude, and you need to stop that sh*t, really.

As, that insta-date broad you took to the party, you're effin' up because she's the foundation of your social circle. So what you're not attracted to her, what you need to do is hook up an outing so you can meet some of friends or relatives and she if they're cute, you seem to have forgot that social circle is the easiest game to pull from. What I suggest is that you call ole girl, see what she's getting into tonight, and kick it with her and some of her friends.

My wing should have engaged the other girl. I called out to the girl "wait come back here". Afterwards my wing said it made him feel uncomfortable that I was being persistent like that. He was scared we were going to get arrested or something.

I know this is your folks and all, but unless it just to kick it and have a beer, never go sarging with this dude again. He isn't this life and to paraphrase Kendrick Lamar, "He's the b*tch that killed your vibe." You should only with dudes that you're 100% sure will go out and approach women, namely those RSD dudes. They're like minded individuals who are positive about life, proactive about changing their lives, and are out c'here trying to get some p*ssy. In opinion, you should eff with them when comes time to holla at hoes.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 15 day 6: Today didn't do any approaches because I was looking at 2 places with my folks but man did my blood boil and make me feel like approaching girls. It's like I've developed this hunger or something to go approach chicks now. I was eyeing for targets left and right while I was out today. I'm heading downtown tomorrow to look at another place by myself so I'm very eager to spend a several hours doing daygame.

I'm hoping I can find a decent place soon to live. I remember last year, it was brutal hunting for a place to rent while attending school and I ended up having to resort to renting in one of Toronto's most dangerous areas with a filthy ass cramped apartment.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Week 15 day 6: Today didn't do any approaches because I was looking at 2 places with my folks but man did my blood boil and make me feel like approaching girls. It's like I've developed this hunger or something to go approach chicks now. I was eyeing for targets left and right while I was out today. I'm heading downtown tomorrow to look at another place by myself so I'm very eager to spend a several hours doing daygame.

I'm hoping I can find a decent place soon to live. I remember last year, it was brutal hunting for a place to rent while attending school and I ended up having to resort to renting in one of Toronto's most dangerous areas with a filthy ass cramped apartment.

You looking at apartments or condos? Houses?

 

[thunder_god]

You looking at apartments or condos? Houses?

Mainly apartments and houses. I can't afford condos.