Enough is enough, time for a change journal.

[thunder_god]

Week 6 day 6: I didn't do squat today except clean up my room. I'm planning on going to the mall tomorrow for a good 3-5 hrs to get some practice in. I also messaged 2 members on here to see if they are up for going sarging. We'll see what happens.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 6 day 7: I didn't have a good start to the day. I went on facebook and saw a pic that my oneitis entered that color me rad 5k race with another girl in our class. That brought back all those old emotional pain she caused me. After a little while I headed off to the mall. My first stop was to the eye clinic. I booked an eye exam for tomorrow to get a fitting for contacts, so it looks like I'll have my first pair of contacts tomorrow. Then I wanted to do some cold approaches and thought it would be a great idea to build up some social momentum so I went into the sketchers store and approached a girl working there. We made eye contact and she smiled and we both said hi. Unfortunately we quickly walked off to shelve products on the side. I tried to look around quickly, pretending to seem interested in purchasing shoes but noticed she was still busy so I took off. Next I headed off to the DKNY store. I see a male store clerk and I say "hi, how are you?" then walk past him. Another store clerk asks me if everything is ok. I say ya. Then I take off.

However, I once again got distracted and instead of focusing on doing cold approaches I noticed a sale sign at the banana republic store across from DKNY. I ended up blowing around $80 on clothes and spending a ridiculous amount of time trying on clothes there. By the time I was finished at the store, I only had like 30 minutes left. I next saw the J crew store and ended up going inside and purchasing a light pink button down shirt for a pretty good price $14. I did however ask the change room girl for her opinion on sizing and whether or not the clothes looked nice. I also am noticing myself starting to wear smaller and smaller sizes now. I must have looked really terrible in the past with my clothing sizes. My mother used to do all my shopping for me because I hated shopping with a passion so I just told her what I wanted and told her to go get it for me. Unbeknownst to me, she always bought 1-2 sizes up from what I should have been wearing because she figured it would shrink.

I have since done my own shopping for the past few weeks now and have learnt quite a bit talking to the store clerks about fashion and also reading about styles online. After I finished my shopping at J crew, the mall was closing so it was too late to do anymore approaches. My new wardrobe is also ready, just missing 2-3 more light summer colors like a light blue and green button downs, and also a light colored blazer and black cap toe lace up shoes and I'm all set. A pair of dessert boots and monk strap shoes would also look nice. I managed to get a weight lifting session in when I got home.

I really need to focus on sticking to doing only one thing at a time such as cold approaches. I find when I try to do too many things at once, I lose focus on the most important things, in this case actually approaching girls and talking to them. I visited the rsd nation website and tried to look for wingmans in the toronto area, but so far haven't received a single reply back. I also facebook messaged a former classmate of mines who I saw on the facebook rsd page and he said he was interested but haven't heard back from him when I asked him when he's available to do cold approaches.

I have a dragon boat practice tomorrow which I'm not really looking forward to going to be honest. I rather use that time to look for a drop in dance class or something. I really regret signing up for that ****. first of all, paddling in that weird position hurts my lower back, and I really get depressed seeing all my classmates there and also the people on the team don't really seem like they want to talk to anyone except their social circles. I witnessed this last week, when 2 girls from my class were also on the streetcar that me and the 2nd year students were on. All the 2nd years were talking and the two girls were all silent.

I feel this change is taking forever and that I haven't made much progress. I really need to start receiving some dividends back for my investment to motivate me to continue pushing on. Hopefully when my best buddy gets back from vacation later this week, we can start doing some cold approaches together.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 7 day 1: Today I went in to the optometrists office to get my contact lenses fitting done. Man was it a painful process. I spent like an 1hr trying to get those contacts in my eyes because the girl who was showing me didn't teach me properly how to put them in. I spent an hr prying my eyelids out and now both of my eyes are all red and ****. As soon as the optometrist came in, within 5 mins I had both of the contacts in my eyes. The girl who was teaching me how to put contacts in also had another girl observing our session. I kind of ****ed up an opportunity today with that girl observing. She was an asian HB6. I got left alone with her for a few minutes while the girl who was teaching me went to get the optometrist to come in to show me how to put my contacts in.

I should have said something or teased or something. Maybe something like "if anything happens to me, I'm going to hold you fully accountable". The optometrist I had was also kind of cute a HB6 as well. I got to stop being so focused on one particular task and instead realize what my whole purpose of doing all this is for, which is to get girls. I have a follow up appointment next week, so hopefully I'll have another opportunity again and won't **** it up.

Who would have known contact lenses cost so much. $250 for 1yr supply of 1 month replaceables or around $400 for 1yr daily replaceables wtf. Even my eyeglasses didn't cost that much.

I also told my team captain I wouldn't be coming to the dragonboat practice today. That **** is boring as ****, I don't really want to commute so far downtown if I'm not going to get something productive done. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day.

 

[Maximus Rex]

You're Making Progress

however I got side tracked and ended up shopping for more clothes instead. Initially when I got to the mall, I had spoken to a few hired guns and was building up my social momentum

Sarge the hired guns like you would regular chicks. The interaction will be better because the hired guns have to engage you because it's part of the job description.

I saw some clothes that caught my eye and I ended up spending a huge amount of time trying clothes on and asking staff for their opinions.

Why aren't you trying to holla at them? That's the perfect time to practice your game because you have a captive audience and the chicks have to talk to you.

I'm not as nervous talking to them and its kind of automatic but when its a stranger I see, I get serious approach anxiety. I need to change my thought process so that I see everyone else the same way regardless of whether or not they work at a store.

You'll get over it in time.

I ended up purchasing a navy blue sports jacket/blazer (thanks for the color tip rex)

You're welcome. That blazer will become the most versatile piece of clothing that you have. You'll be able to wear with your polos, dress shirts, and jeans. Take a look at these videos and read the articles,

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/suit-jacket-with-jeans/

How to wear a Suit Jacket with Jeans

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=2

How To Wear A Sports Jacket With Jeans | Mixing Denim And A Sport Coat | Matching Sports Jackets

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=13

Matching a Navy Blazer Jacket with Trousers - Mens Style Guide - Fashion Advice


http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=2

How A Suit Should Fit | Buy A Proper Fitted Suit | What Good Fitting Suits Look Like Video Tutorial

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=12

Off The Rack Suit Alterations - Can You Get A Fit Similiar To A Custom Suit? - Male Style Advice

Like Antonio says in the video, your next move is to take your blazer in for the alterations so you can get the proper fit. Have the jacket brought in and have the sleeves taken up about an inch so that when you wear a long sleeve shirt, you'll be showing some cuff.

Also have the lapel button, pockets, and the buttons on the jacket sleeve, (if you have any opened up. Finally, switch out the buttons for some mother-of-pearl or brass ones.

after trying on numerous suits. I got a pretty good deal on it too, only $80 (regular $200). Now I know it ain't a custom tailered or made to measure suit but at the moment it will have to do until I get more money.

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=1

10 Inexpensive Ways To Upgrade Your Personal Style - Mens Style Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Xmkhagfa8

Do You Need Money to Dress Sharp? - Mens Fashion Advice - Male Clothing Style Help

Watch those videos and read the articles. You may also want to hit up thrift stores in more affluent areas to get clothing.

I also picked up 2 pairs of shorts and 2 polos with nice and bright summer colors. These will come in handle for summer. Right now I just need to get that pair of dress shoes and a pink and lime colored button shirt and I will be all set for summer.

What color shoes? Also don't forgot to get taps put on the heels and the front of the shoes and buy some shoe trees and shoe bags.

The anger only intensifies when I see couples together, especially if I notice the guy is way below the girls sexual market value and I know I'm a much greater catch then him. It just makes me feel like crap because I don't have the balls to approach girls.

Dude, don't go "Rodger Elliot," on us. LOL.

As far as your wardrobe, this what you need to focus on.

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/mens-clothing-flexibility/

Build and Interchangeable Wardrobe

Wish me luck doing cold approaches and getting numbers soon!

Good luck, potna. Oh and get some pocket squares.

 

[thunder_god]

Sarge the hired guns like you would regular chicks. The interaction will be better because the hired guns have to engage you because it's part of the job description.



Why aren't you trying to holla at them? That's the perfect time to practice your game because you have a captive audience and the chicks have to talk to you.



You'll get over it in time.



You're welcome. That blazer will become the most versatile piece of clothing that you have. You'll be able to wear with your polos, dress shirts, and jeans. Take a look at these videos and read the articles,

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/suit-jacket-with-jeans/

How to wear a Suit Jacket with Jeans

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=2

How To Wear A Sports Jacket With Jeans | Mixing Denim And A Sport Coat | Matching Sports Jackets

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=13

Matching a Navy Blazer Jacket with Trousers - Mens Style Guide - Fashion Advice


http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=2

How A Suit Should Fit | Buy A Proper Fitted Suit | What Good Fitting Suits Look Like Video Tutorial

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=12

Off The Rack Suit Alterations - Can You Get A Fit Similiar To A Custom Suit? - Male Style Advice

Like Antonio says in the video, your next move is to take your blazer in for the alterations so you can get the proper fit. Have the jacket brought in and have the sleeves taken up about an inch so that when you wear a long sleeve shirt, you'll be showing some cuff.

Also have the lapel button, pockets, and the buttons on the jacket sleeve, (if you have any opened up. Finally, switch out the buttons for some mother-of-pearl or brass ones.



http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/videos/?tubepress_page=1

10 Inexpensive Ways To Upgrade Your Personal Style - Mens Style Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Xmkhagfa8

Do You Need Money to Dress Sharp? - Mens Fashion Advice - Male Clothing Style Help

Watch those videos and read the articles. You may also want to hit up thrift stores in more affluent areas to get clothing.



What color shoes? Also don't forgot to get taps put on the heels and the front of the shoes and buy some shoe trees and shoe bags.



Dude, don't go "Rodger Elliot," on us. LOL.

As far as your wardrobe, this what you need to focus on.

http://www.realmenrealstyle.com/mens-clothing-flexibility/

Build and Interchangeable Wardrobe




Good luck, potna. Oh and get some pocket squares.

Damn bro, you really got your fashion down to the tee. Thanks for all the suggestions. I will slowly start incorporating it all into my new wardrobe. I'm going to go to the mall again tomorrow and look for a nice pair of black cap toe lace up shoes. The shoes I bought were just regular casual black and whites like these http://www.olixe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Casual-Mens-Shoes-9.jpg?ba1d42. Nothing fancy. I'm still waiting to receive my fancy dress shoes that I ordered from hushpuppies ( 2 wing tip in brown and black, and 1 dark grey oxford).

I tried on my contacts again when I got home today and that **** sting like a mother****er. It took me like 20 minutes to put it on and then I ended up putting it on the wrong side and it felt like someone was poking my eye or something. After putting in all this effort, I better ****ing get laid before the summer's over.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 7 day 2: Today was meh. It started off ok. I hit the mall right after my psychiatrist appointment. Unfortunately, I am getting shipped off somewhere else and will no longer require the services of this hospital's mental clinic. So first thing I do is get lunch. I try to scan the food court for some pretty girls but most of the seats beside them are taken, so I end up sitting beside some old dude eating kfc. Next I hit up RW and co. As soon as I walk into the store, I get approached by someone who appears to be a women but I couldn't tell. They were dressed like a women and had a women's haircut but they looked like a transvestite and had a feminine manly voice and they seemed kind of eager to speak to me (gave me the chills). So I walk around the store and then I notice some tall blonde chick's ass right in front of me (she was bent down). She was wearing a grey skirt. Then I saw her face and I was like damn, I hope she works here. She was easily a HB8.5-9. Fortunately she did. She asked me if I found everything ok and then I just idiotically said yes, then she takes off. Then I notice a sale rack and I wait for her to come back. Then I ask her about the discounts and wanted to ask for her opinion on the clothes but I didn't. I don't know if it was because I was on a time crunch or because I just chickened out. As soon as I leave the store, I walk right past another pretty girl, probably 8-8.5. Then I go into the gap to look for that girl from last week, but saw no one working the floor so I left. Next I hit up abercrombie. I spot two blondes folding clothes. Both of them HB8-9. Then they take off. Then all of a sudden some brunette makes eye contact with me and smiles and says hi. I return the gesture. She was another employee. She was probably HB8.5-9. I circle the store and then come back to where she said hi to me, she is helping a customer but then turns around and asks me if I need any help. I make some bs excuse that I have a terrible fashion sense and I'm looking for a complete outfit. She makes a few clothing suggestions and we walk around the store. She mentions that she loves everything about abercrombie. I said something like she must shop here all the time and get a huge discount on clothes since she works here. She was like nah not huge. She then suggests some swim shorts and I reply back that I can't swim and she laughs. Then I said something, I don't remember but she mentioned her bf. As soon as I heard her say bf, I pretty much gave up on her. We spoke another 2-3 sentences and then she told me to look around and to get her if I want her help or opinion. She had picked one button down shirt for me which I had no intention of buying, so as soon as I didn't see her anymore I quickly put it back and left. I was running late at this point so left the mall. As I was walking down the street, I noticed one of those girls who wear pink t-shirts trying to solicit donations for charity or some bull****. My autopilot kicked in when she approached me. She saw that I was wearing a light pink/orange button down and that she was wearing pink so she says to me:

her: sir, we're wearing the same colors (smiling)
me: its not the same colors (laughing and walking away)

About 2 secs later, I realized I just ****ed up an opportunity to hit on her. She wasn't nearly as good looking as the previous five girls probably a HB6.5-7 but damn I ****ed up. I replayed the scenario in my head as I was walking and I should have said something like:

me: I guess the universe and fate wanted us to meet
me: so I guess I'm going to have to take you out for a cup of coffee or something

I was kind of pissed for ****ing that up. My autopilot for rejecting these people kicked in before I even got the opportunity to really look at the girl.

Later in the day, I head to my salsa class. I came in a little late so I didn't get a opportunity to talk to my potential plate. I only got to dance with her once during class and it was short as hell, maybe 2-3 minutes tops. She told me she ain't coming to the bachata class afterwards because it was too late and she had an early class. As soon as I heard that I was like ****. My brain couldn't talk properly afterwards because I intended to tease and flirt with her today but it was as if I had a brain fart when I heard those words. I was like ah **** I just lost a potential plate in my head. After class I didn't get a chance to talk to her but it looked like she was lingering around as if waiting for me to talk to her. I had to go refill my water bottle but as soon as I came back in, she had already taken off. Now I'll have to wait another week to talk to her again. Next week I'm going to try to come 30 minutes earlier so I have time to talk to her more and build rapport and then either ask for the number or ask her to hang out. During class I noticed a girl who's a year head of me in my program was in the class. She's probably a 4-4.5 so I don't have any interest in ****ing her nor dating her but she can be used for social proof or becoming friends with so that I can later ask her to hook me up with her friends. I get the chance to dance with her and end up talking with her for a bit. I then convince her to come to my bachata class right afterwards. I also got complimented by the instructor on my salsa dancing skills today in class at the end. He actually shook my hand lol but told me to get better shoes that didn't have as much grip.

After my salsa class is done, me, the instructor, another girl, and that upper year girl head to our bachata class. I end up spending the majority of the class dancing with that upper year girl and another HB6 from last week. I was kind of pissed that the chinese HB6-6.5 decided not to come, and also there were way more dudes today in class. WTF is with all these mother****ing dudes signing for dance lessons? Its suppose to be girl dominated not males. I end the day having developed good to ok rapport with the upper year girl and the other HB6.

I would have liked the day to have turned out better, but whatever. I can only control myself. I'm going to practice these bachata moves from this week and then next week show up early to my salsa class and then show that chinese HB6-6.5 what she missed out on to try and get her to come to the bachata class again.

I also haven't heard anything back yet from all these people who I messaged about being a wingman. Like come on people. No wonder people say TO is the ****hole for picking up women. Guys feel they are either too good to be picking up women with you or their ****ing chumps who are too scared to do anything. Overall my progress has been very ****ing frustrating. I'm just waiting for my best bud to come back so I can make him come sarging with me.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I've started going out to the mall and coffee shop more lately in order to meet women, now just wondering what are the best days and times of the week for daygame at the mall or coffee shop?

 

[thunder_god]

I've started going out to the mall and coffee shop more lately in order to meet women, now just wondering what are the best days and times of the week for daygame at the mall or coffee shop?

I don't think there really is any "best" time. Just go when your free and in the mood. For me personally, I prefer week days because there's less people around and its less busy and noisy. It makes it easier to talk to them without being distracted.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 7 day 5: I haven't really had much in the last 3 days. I didn't really make any progress at all on wednesday, and thursday. I showed up to my wing chun class on wednesday after a 2 week hiatus. there were two new girls who joined our class. One was a 3 and the other a 4 on the looks scale. Neither could really speak english. I think they both are Japanese or something. I didn't really bother to engage either one in conversation. Epic fail for wednesday.

I did chat up the cashier at RW and Co on thursday. She was a 4 at best and overweight. I had no interest in her but just used her for practice. She was asking me for my last name when I was paying for my dress shirt and I was kind of being playful with her. We both got off to talking about our last names and then I was asking her about her nationality. Then the girl beside her jumped into our conversation saying she's from the same country as that girl and even she can't pronouce her last name. That was pretty much the highlight for thursday. I also forgot to mention I had ballroom classes on thursday. Well it looks like my potential plate in that class is now gone for good. I haven't seen her in 3 weeks now so I guess its safe to assume, its a done deal. It kind of bums me out. First the chinese potential plate on tuesdays salsa and bachata class decides not to go to the bachata class, making it very difficult for me to work on it due to the very limited amount of interaction and dancing time, and now I lost this potential plate from ballroom. I did however build up better rapport with 2 other girls in my ballroom class. I believe both of them have bf's but I guess its still not a bad idea to become friends with them. I'm not really interested in neither one but they will help with social proof. I am finding out that I actually do enjoy dancing, which I never thought would be possible. I used to think dancing was gay and only gay dudes did it, but now my whole perception has changed. I initially took dance lessons because my oneitis was taking ballroom classes last semester and I wanted to show her that I was a great dancer, but unfortunately that never worked out. I didn't want to stop after taking a few classes so I continued taking it during the summer. Now I'm finding that I actually want to learn it, not because of some girl but because I enjoy dancing. If I can hook up with girls through dancing thats a bonus.

Today I went to the mall again, albeit a different one. The highlight was a HB7 who looked like a cross between camilla belle and jennifer lawrence in the Buffalo store. I had her getting shirt sizes for me. She asked me how the shirt fit was, and I told her it made my gut stick out and that I would stick with the previous size she got me and she laughed. I shouldn't have let her run off to put the shirt at the cashier while letting me go look around some more. By the time I returned, the vibe had died down. I overheard her asking the guy in front of me for his contact details and name when he was paying for his stuff. I thought she was going to do the same when I went to pay for my shirt, but she never asked. I figured it was because the guy used his credit card while I used a debit card. I was gonna spring a line like:
me: my number?
me: why?
me: are we going to go out on a date? or are you taking me out to dinner?

Unfortunately she never asked, frig! She also had 2 other coworkers standing beside her so I don't think if I went for the number she would give it to me. Next time, I'll try not to let conversations die when they are starting to get interesting. I'm having a real problem continuing conversations after I get them hooked into the conversation. Humour is great for making them more engaged but I need to follow through afterwards. I also had this same problem the day before. Talking to these attractive girls really helps take my mind off of my oneitis. I'm saying things like "to hell with her, screw her" in my head in reference to my oneitis when I'm focused on these girls but as soon as I leave and later in the day, those feelings and memories of my oneitis creeps back into my mind and the emotional pain resurfaces again . I really need to move on and find myself another girl fast. I need to get laid before summers over!

I got in contact with another member on the rsd nation website. Me and him exchanged a few texts about meeting up to do cold approaches on monday, so hopefully that will materialize and I can start getting better at doing cold approaches at a much faster speed. I'm still waiting to hear back from my best bud so we can start doing cold approaches together soon. This week feels like a very long week because I have been waiting to hear back from people so that we can do cold approaches together. In regards to my eye contact training. I'm finding that I only have a 75-80% success rate. The majority of girls who I make eye contact with I can give them the stare down and make them look away but sometimes I would make eye contact with either a really pretty girl or an old hag and I would look away first. It kind of pisses me off. I would estimate my eye contact challenge numbers of somewhere in the 20's to low 30's. Not the greatest numbers but I've been distracted and also I find people in toronto don't really try to make eye contact with people.

I'm also slowly little by little cleaning up my room. I've gotten rid of all my old clothes. It feels as if I'm slowly getting rid of the old me and changing into the new me. I also need to develop better sleeping habits. I've been staying up till 2-3am every night and waking up at 12 or 1pm everyday. Not the most productive use of my time. I need to start going to bed at 11 or 12pm and getting up at 9am or something and hitting the weights early in the morning so I don't procrastinate. I'm still doing weight lifting between 2-3 days a week but now I'm slowly starting to get lazy and not feeling like doing it. Lastly I have come to the realization that I am slowly turning into a shopaholic by staying in the mall all the time. I think once I can start getting numbers and dates this temporary shopping spree will end.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 7 day 6: Today I hit the mall again, however both of my parents tagged along so it made it kind of awkward to approach girls with them there. I did however approach one hired gun at the oakley store. I made some bs excuse about looking for aviator glasses, and then spent the next 2 minutes talking to the girl. I tried to crack a joke about having to spend 2-3 hrs there to try on the glasses and she smiled but no laugh. She then told me to look around and if I needed to try on a specific pair to let her know. I had no intention of forking over $100 on a pair of sunglasses when I already paid over $200 2 months ago for my sunglasses from oakley lol. I also was at the brown's shoe store today and I noticed one of the hired guns was wearing some weird blue colored shoes. I wanted to comment on it but I chickened out because I hesitated too long. I also got into kind of a staring contest with some chick was I was walking along in the mall, neither of us would look away as we both walked closer and closer to each other until we both walked past each other.

I also picked up 2 pairs of black jeans in different styles. I think I'm now all set for jeans. Even though I just bought a pair of black sneakers that look like the converse chuck taylors I am really tempted to purchase them, just because they look that much better. I think I'll be visiting the shoe store again tomorrow to get them. I'm also thinking about getting this button down short sleeve shirt if I can find it for a good price at J crew tomorrow.

The Bay was charging $80 for the shirt. No way in hell am I spending $80 for that. Hollister had a similar shirt and it was going for nearly half the price but unfortunately they didn't have my size. I saw a long sleeve version of it at J crew so we'll see if they have a short sleeve one. I'm still waiting for people to get back to me about doing cold approaches. I was talking to that guy who I'm suppose to meet up with on monday and he mentioned that he has a friend he is even better then him at picking up women. I'm definitely excited about meeting these guys and learning from them. Its kind of ironic how 5-6 years ago, I used to hate players and pickup artists but I now realize they are the only people who can really help me and I want to become one of them. Not so that I can use women or anything but more so that I develop the skills and experience to deal with all those BS mind games girls play on us guys and also to have a fighting chance with any future girls I meet and not have a repeat of all of my past failures with women. Hopefully now things will start turning in my favour. I have been working really hard on outer game but my inner game is extremely weak. My eye contact with women has improved by a lot, my posture is much better, I stopped putting my hands in my pocket most of the time now, I have learnt to slow down when walking unless if I'm in a hurry, I have practically revamped my wardrobe although I still need a few more things to make it complete, I started flossing my teeth and now they look whiter then ever, I have reduced my calorie intake and have gone down 2 pant sizes, I still workout at least 3 days a week but would like to start adding in cardio, and have picked up a few hobbies although I am slowly tapering down and getting rid of hobbies I don't really enjoy.

Now I feel its time to really work on my inner game out in the field with some mentorship and guidance from people who are more experienced then me.

 

[beatjunkie]

Great posts as always thunder. IMO you are going to the mall a bit too much, spice it up a bit and try somewhere else for a few days!

 

[thunder_god]

Great posts as always thunder. IMO you are going to the mall a bit too much, spice it up a bit and try somewhere else for a few days!

Thx for the support. I live in the suburbs so don't really have any real place in my area with a large concentration of women other than the mall lol. I also tried several different social activities but the amount and quality of women was a huge let down. I've come to the realization that the only way I'll be able to score a good looking or hot girl is by doing cold approaches in the mall or something. I'm still waiting to hear back from my best bud so that we can hit up some latin dance clubs and also go to the friday night party at the museum downtown which I know has a fair number of girls. Once I start getting real good at dancing, I'm going to start going to nightclubs sparingly as well. Gonna hit up the mall again in a bit lol. I'll post a field report if anything happens. Maybe I'll go to the buffalo store and see if that chick from friday is there. My strategy for today is to just give strangers preferably non hired guns compliments on something like their clothes or something. I'm going to try to shoot for at least 5 compliments but my goal is 10. We'll see how it goes in a bit.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Thanks Dude

Damn bro, you really got your fashion down to the tee. Thanks for all the suggestions. I will slowly start incorporating it all into my new wardrobe.

Thanks dude. It's not so much that I have my "fashion game," down to a tee, it's that I have a between Antonio Centeno and "THE INSECT," Rex has a pretty good foundation.

Week 7 day 2: So first thing I do is get lunch. I try to scan the food court for some pretty girls but most of the seats beside them are taken,

Why didn't you open them?

So I end up sitting beside some old dude eating kfc. Next I hit up RW and co.

You should have talked to him just for practice.

She asked me if I found everything ok and then I just idiotically said yes, then she takes off.

Just because you said, "Yes," doesn't mean you couldn't have still talked to her. You could have said, "Yes, but I'm opened to suggestions." Why does "x," item cost more at "x," as opposed to "y," store. Or you can do this the next time you're approached by a salesgirl.

Salesgirl: Hello, are you finding everything okay?

thunder_god: Yes.

Salesgirl: Okay, (salesgirl starts to walk off,)

thunder_god: Hey, come here.

Salesgirl: (Comes back,) Yes.

thunder_god: What is Grimace?

Salesgirl: Huh???

thunder_god: You know, Grimace. Ronald McDonald's purple friend, Grimace.

Salesgirl: Ohhh. I don't know.

thunder_god: I thought he was an upside down cup. Anyway, recommend some clothes for me for "x" function and don't pick out anything wack because if my friends tease me and make me cry I'm going to come back here and blame you. BTW, nice shoes, where did you get them from.

t_g, you're the man and you have to get into the habit of leading when you have these boards in front of you. If you keep talking to them, it's unlikely they'll leave, especially if they're enjoying your company. As a matter of fact, MAKE THE GIRL WALK OFF. Right now for you, it's all about acclimation and becoming used to talking to women and being sociable. Also, pick up "How to Succeed with Women," by David Louis and Ron Copeland, there's an excellent section in that book on sarging hired guns.

I'm finding that I only have a 75-80% success rate. The majority of girls who I make eye contact with I can give them the stare down and make them look away but sometimes I would make eye contact with either a really pretty girl or an old hag and I would look away first.

Dude, how are staring at these chicks? Are you smiling? Do you appear friendly and inviting? Also, what do you expect the chick to do after staring at her? You're the man and it's up to you to follow up.

You have to remember that women are innately non-confrontational and they just aren't going to give overt singals for you to come over and holla. I suggest that when you start these chicks you do something hella silly and non-threatening, like blow her a kiss or bat your eyes at her like in those hella old cartoons. Better yet, call her over or just start talking to her. You just can't stare at a chick and leave it at a stare, because more than likely you just freaked the chick out.

I'm still doing weight lifting between 2-3 days a week but now I'm slowly starting to get lazy and not feeling like doing it.

I just recently joined a gym to. However, don't get lazy.

Lastly I have come to the realization that I am slowly turning into a shopaholic by staying in the mall all the time.

Just because you're in the mall doesn't mean you have to buy something. However, you do need to cop those two navy blue business suits for job interviews.

Overall my progress has been very ****ing frustrating. I'm just waiting for my best bud to come back so I can make him come sarging with me.

Dude, you haven't even been at this for two months, seriously, what kind of results where you expecting in two months time? Tyler, (from RSD,) said that it took him two years, (go going out everyday,) to get good.

Also, instead of being down on yourself, you need to be commended.

5)You're Actually Doing Cold Approaches

Most dudes on So Suave are playing the game halfed :moon:. While you're in the field gaining available experience, most of these dudes are trying figure out why the chick from Tinder hasn't responded to them or why the chick from Facebook has blocked them.

4) You're Changing Your Wardrobe

You realize that your wardrobe is dated and ill fitting and you're going about changing that.

3) You Took a Trip To New York City

Not to many cats will take a trip by themselves to an unknown city. You deserve props for that alone.


2) You Actually F*cking Listen

Unlike some posters on So Suave, (shout to skinnyguy, Dhoulmagus, and Rex most definitely pyros,) you not only listen to, but most importantly, IMPLEMENT, the advice that's being given to you. It shows the other members of the board not only your sincerity, but you're also serious about improving your luck with women,)

1) thunder_god Respects The Game

For that alone you're destined for greatness. Everything that you've done so far has shown that you have respect for The Game. You recognized that you have a problem and you're seeking and implementing the remedies to fix that problem. Keep at it bruh, by Christmas, you should be pulling numbers on the regular.

 

[thunder_god]

Thanks dude. It's not so much that I have my "fashion game," down to a tee, it's that I have a between Antonio Centeno and "THE INSECT," Rex has a pretty good foundation.



Why didn't you open them?



You should have talked to him just for practice.



Just because you said, "Yes," doesn't mean you couldn't have still talked to her. You could have said, "Yes, but I'm opened to suggestions." Why does "x," item cost more at "x," as opposed to "y," store. Or you can do this the next time you're approached by a salesgirl.

Salesgirl: Hello, are you finding everything okay?

thunder_god: Yes.

Salesgirl: Okay, (salesgirl starts to walk off,)

thunder_god: Hey, come here.

Salesgirl: (Comes back,) Yes.

thunder_god: What is Grimace?

Salesgirl: Huh???

thunder_god: You know, Grimace. Ronald McDonald's purple friend, Grimace.

Salesgirl: Ohhh. I don't know.

thunder_god: I thought he was an upside down cup. Anyway, recommend some clothes for me for "x" function and don't pick out anything wack because if my friends tease me and make me cry I'm going to come back here and blame you. BTW, nice shoes, where did you get them from.

t_g, you're the man and you have to get into the habit of leading when you have these boards in front of you. If you keep talking to them, it's unlikely they'll leave, especially if they're enjoying your company. As a matter of fact, MAKE THE GIRL WALK OFF. Right now for you, it's all about acclimation and becoming used to talking to women and being sociable. Also, pick up "How to Succeed with Women," by David Louis and Ron Copeland, there's an excellent section in that book on sarging hired guns.



Dude, how are staring at these chicks? Are you smiling? Do you appear friendly and inviting? Also, what do you expect the chick to do after staring at her? You're the man and it's up to you to follow up.

You have to remember that women are innately non-confrontational and they just aren't going to give overt singals for you to come over and holla. I suggest that when you start these chicks you do something hella silly and non-threatening, like blow her a kiss or bat your eyes at her like in those hella old cartoons. Better yet, call her over or just start talking to her. You just can't stare at a chick and leave it at a stare, because more than likely you just freaked the chick out.



I just recently joined a gym to. However, don't get lazy.



Just because you're in the mall doesn't mean you have to buy something. However, you do need to cop those two navy blue business suits for job interviews.



Dude, you haven't even been at this for two months, seriously, what kind of results where you expecting in two months time? Tyler, (from RSD,) said that it took him two years, (go going out everyday,) to get good.

Also, instead of being down on yourself, you need to be commended.

5)You're Actually Doing Cold Approaches

Most dudes on So Suave are playing the game halfed :moon:. While you're in the field gaining available experience, most of these dudes are trying figure out why the chick from Tinder hasn't responded to them or why the chick from Facebook has blocked them.

4) You're Changing Your Wardrobe

You realize that your wardrobe is dated and ill fitting and you're going about changing that.

3) You Took a Trip To New York City

Not to many cats will take a trip by themselves to an unknown city. You deserve props for that alone.


2) You Actually F*cking Listen

Unlike some posters on So Suave, (shout to skinnyguy, Dhoulmagus, and Rex most definitely pyros,) you not only listen to, but most importantly, IMPLEMENT, the advice that's being given to you. It shows the other members of the board not only your sincerity, but you're also serious about improving your luck with women,)

1) thunder_god Respects The Game

For that alone you're destined for greatness. Everything that you've done so far has shown that you have respect for The Game. You recognized that you have a problem and you're seeking and implementing the remedies to fix that problem. Keep at it bruh, by Christmas, you should be pulling numbers on the regular.

thx bro for the continued support. Without you and the rest of the members of this board, I don't know whether or not I would have already given up. Its great that you finally joined a gym. Keep at it and in a few months you'll look great. If you need any advice on fitness and health, shoot me a text. I used to be a personal training and studied exercise science for my undergrad. I walked into a cologne perfume store today in the mall and I was just interested in smelling some colognes but I didn't want to purchase anything but I felt very guilty. I was kind of lingering around and wanted to take off but felt kind of bad that I made the girl spray a crap tonne of cologne for me. As soon as I saw a lady take off, I immediately followed suit lol. As for the eye contact issue. I don't think I'm doing it completely right. Most of these stare downs take place for about 2-3 secs. I always thought I was suppose to do the smile or stick my tongue out if it was like 10 secs or more. I think I need to see a video or something of this in action so I know how to do it correctly.

I know I should be more patient with my progress and I do think I am quite hard on myself and take things too personally. I still haven't forgiven myself for ****ing things up with that broad and when I look in the mirror I'm pretty disgusted with the way I let things in my life unfold. This is why I'm so eager to start experiencing these success with women that I hear all these guys talk about. I don't want to return back to school in October and still be thinking about my oneitis and how I can't get a girl. I know if I can only get laid with a few girls this summer, my confidence level will be through the roof and I won't give a damn about my oneitis because it will show me that I do in fact how what it takes to succeed with women. I just picked up a copy of that book you recommended and I will start reading it once I finish reading chase amante's book. I'm only about 40% done so far. All my reading time has been taken up doing cold approaches and hanging out at the mall.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 7 day 7: So like I mentioned earlier today, my initial plan was to complement 10 people. I only managed to do cold approaches with 5 people. The first 3 I managed to pull off within 15 minutes of each other. The first person was a girl at the shoe company. Me and her made eye contact and we both smiled as I walked into the store. Then later I made some bs excuse about looking for a specific type of sock that I knew they didn't sell in the store. I approached her and then starting talking about socks. Then I complemented her grey shoes. After a few seconds of chit chat she told me to go to another shoe store at the other end of the mall. I was like " at the other end of the mall?". I probably should have teased her a bit more and said "What?, you want me to walk all the way to the other end of the mall?" or some bull**** like that. Next I went into winners. I was waiting in line to purchase some liner socks to go with my boat shoes cause last week when I was wearing them without socks they scratched up my toes and they were bleeding from the chaffing. I chatted up some guy in line about how long the line was. He wasn't very talkative so I just stopped talking to him. Then his friend or brother comes by and is holding two pairs of skipping ropes. I immediately without even thinking starting talking to him about the skipping ropes. I suggested that they were crap and he should get a better pair. I made the guy have doubts about getting the skipping ropes lol. It wasn't intentional I just needed practice. Then I got sidetracked again and started shopping. This totally threw off the momentum I had built. Later I went into the tommy hilfiger store. I chatted up some dude about shoes but he kind of ignored me lol. Next I saw some guy looking at jackets at I commented at how nice they were. Again the dude ignored me lol. I did talk to a 2-3 sales clerks at a few other stores but I'm not counting them because I asked them about clothing. I ended up picking up a sick pair of converse chuck taylors in black http://www.kicksologists.com/2010/05/13/classic-icons-review-converse-chuck-taylor-all-star/. These will go nicely with jeans.

I did walk by the buffalo store and saw that chick from friday. Damn she looked smoking hot today. She was wearing some white and black dress with heels and had her hair tied up. I didn't want to appear like I was stalking her or anything so I didn't go into the store but it looked like she was pretty busy at the cash register. I couldn't take my eyes off of her so I walked by the store not once, not twice, but three ****ing times just so I could get another glimpse at her. She definitely got bumped up to a 8.5. I think for the time being I'll just leave her at the backburner for now till I get even better at talking to women then I will come back to the store in a few weeks. Thats pretty much it for today. I only met the minimum requirements for what I said I was going to do which was doing 5 approaches. I didn't even make 5 compliments but the other four people who I approached were guys so I figured no point. I didn't want to appear gay or anything. Tomorrow I am an optometrist follow up appointment to see how my contacts are fitting. Assuming that the girl from last week who was just observing is there, I will try to chat her up if we're alone. I'm starting to realize doing cold approaches is a hell of a lot easier if I don't think about it and just go do it as soon as the thought crosses my mind. Its like I don't even give the approach anxiety a chance to come out, but as soon as I start thinking about it then I start hesitating and then it becomes harder and harder to do. I plan on visiting the RW and CO and Abercrombie store again this tuesday when those two hot chicks are working there.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 8 day 1: Didn't have too much happen today. I went into the optometrist's office today for my follow up. Both of those two girls who were there last week during my eye contact fitting were working the front desk. Only the girl who I spoke to last time talked to me, while the cutie was busy on the computer. I didn't bother trying to try to talk to her, but I noticed she was glancing over from the computer screen while I was sitting down. I had the same cute optometrist as last time. We talked abit about different types of contact lenses, I couldn't think of anything to tease her or joke about it so I just left it as a regular doctor visit. She gave me two different types of contacts to try out for 2 weeks ( one dailies, and one 2 week contacts). I have a follow up appointment in 2 weeks so hopefully I'll have better luck next time. I really need to start making opportunities myself instead of relying on them popping up. Its time I take matters into my own hands. It's just that I need more field experience. I also checked out the Buffalo store but unfortunately that cutie from the other day wasn't working there. I kind of feel like a stalker now lol. I really need to start talking to other beautiful girls this week otherwise I might turn this girl into another oneitis. Great for helping me get over my oneitis but not so good in the grand scheme of things. I took off after that. I probably should have stuck around trying to do some cold approaches but I was kind of bummed out today. I initially was suppose to meet that guy from rsn nation but he flaked on me and asked to reschedule for friday. It kind of pisses me off. It's not just him. Pretty much everyone I have spoken to in the last 2-3 weeks have been like this in Toronto. Like seriously, can no one follow through with what they say? Is this what the world has resorted to now? Everyone says I'll be interested in doing this or that, but when it comes time to take action, no one steps up? No wonder people say Toronto is a ****hole for pickup, no one follows through with what they say there gonna do.

Hopefully I'll have better luck tomorrow. I'm just going to go do some reading today on seduction and work on the first section of my pof profile.

Any of you guys got any suggestions for trying to pick up health care workers? Anything I can say to make the conversation more interesting or get her telling me more about her self so that she feels a connection to me? Stuff like that?

 

[thunder_god]

Alrite so I was disappointed with myself for not doing at least one approach today so I called up my best bud and we both went out sarging at the mall. We walked around and it looked like he wasn't going to do anything but shop nor encourage me to approach so I was like ah **** it and went and approached a hired gun at the jean machine store. We got off talking about different size of jeans and whether or not they were fat or skinny. I think I commented on her own jean size. My buddy tried to jump in and say "are you trying to say he's fat?", she didn't bite. We then took off. I said hi to a few people working in a few stores. I told him to approach a few people but he chickened out. One of the girls was closing the gate at one of the stores and I told her " are you trying to kill me?" as I quickly walked in. She smiled. We left after only spending 30 minutes or so at the mall because he had to go to work tomorrow and the mall was closing. I feel like when someone's there I can make myself go alittle further because it puts pressure on me to perform. Not the most productive day but I couldn't let it end without getting at least 1 approach.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 8 day 2: Today wasn't the greatest day for doing cold approaches. I was expecting the stores that I went to last week to have all the pretty girls working there, but boy was I wrong. I first hit up RW and Co. That hot blonde from last week wasn't there. She was replaced by some fatass behind the counter. I was disgusted and left. I next headed over to Abercrombie expecting to see at least one of the three hot girls I saw last week. There was not a single girl working there except behind the cashier. It was all dudes on the floor wtf. I next headed over to the gap and same deal. After becoming frustrated with this, I said **** it, I'm just going to go into almost every store I see. I headed over to the Eddie Bauer store. I get greeted by some fat chick.

Her: hi, how are you (smiles)
Me: hi, I'm good, how are you? (smiles)
Her: its cold in here
Me: But your wearing a sweater and its summer
Her: it feels like winter in here
Me: you should go grab a jacket
Her: ya

I walk away and browse then take off. After visiting several stores without any luck I head over to American Eagle. Once again all dudes working the floor. I decide to try on a pink colored polo (i'm trying to be more adventurous and moving out of my comfort zone). There's a middle aged African Canadian women working in the change rooms. I get her to give me her opinion on the fitting of the polo shirt. Then I head over to pay for my polo shirt. There's 2 girls working at the cashier. Both are somewhere between a 5-5.5. My cashier is some mixed african canadian girl. Not really my cup of tea.

Her: hi
Me: Hi, how are you doing?
her: I'm good, thx
her: Do you have our store loyalty card?
Me: no
Her: would you like to sign up for it? You get 15% off of your purchase today plus 15% off on your birthday plus loyalty points.
Me: sure, sounds good
Her: asking me about my personal info
Me: I whip out my id card and give it to her because she can't hear me spell out my name
Me: I have the world's shortest last name
Her: smiles
Her: the system seems frozen
Me: Did you break the system?
Her: smiles, its really slow
Her: tells me how its a great price for my shirt
Her: This is the smallest bag we have, is it ok? (it was quite a large bag)
Me: I shake my head and motion with my hand I need a bigger bag while saying "Bigger"
Her: she laughs
Her: here you go, goodbye
Me: bye

I take off. I tried to make eye contact today with any potential girls so that I could try the flashing a smile on them, but for some damn reason, not a single girl made any eye contact with me. I was like wtf! I also hit up the indigo in the mall. There wasn't really any girls to approach except dudes. I went to the dating and relationship section and holy cow. It was books mostly written by women on how to manipulate men and use game playing tactics and other bull****. No wonder guys get slaughtered out there in the dating world. I got frustrated and left after going to a couple more stores and having no luck.

I head off to my salsa class. I came to class abit earlier today because I wanted a chance to talk to my potential plate that chinese HB6. She hadn't showed up yet. Another asian girl shows up who is probably a 5.5. I approach her none the less. I make small chit chat and then ask her to dance with me. I show her a bunch of dance moves. Then my potential plate shows up, but by this time the class was almost full. She is speaking to a bunch of people and I'm busy dancing with that girl. My potential plate asks us what dances we are doing. I ignore her and just dance with the girl while the girl tells her its bachata. Then next thing I know class starts. I only get 1 dance with her and its extremely brief like half a minute. I try to make chit chat and was baiting her so that I could tease her about missing out on learning these dance moves because she didn't come to bachata last week. It didn't really work. I was also dressed up and looking sharp today too. I was expecting her to ask me why I'm all dressed up. I was gonna say something like this if she had asked me.

Her: why are you all dressed up?
me: I've got a hot date tonight
Her: says something
me: so what time do you want me to come pick u up tonight (while having an evil grin on my face)?

Unfortunately my plan failed big time lol. I also had an awkward conversation with her during that brief dance. I think it was because I was trying to hard and thinking too much. I was being too outcome dependent. I need to stop planning out all this **** and just go with the flow so that I don't get all tongue tied when things don't turn out the way I want. I suggested that she come to bachata tonight but she refused. She said she's gonna take it in july. Anyways I think she's a lost cause. Doesn't seem too interested. I'll just keep her on the backburner for now and work on my gaming skills with other girls from doing cold approaches. Also when I was in class switching partners, and I paired up with the upper year girl, I got pulled away from her by another Japanese girl. She was like "he's my partner" to the other girl lol. After class was done, I head over to my bachata class. When I was walking there, I was busting some girls balls big time from my bachata and salsa class. She seemed to love me teasing her and making fun of her. Unfortunately she has the face and body of a child. It seems my teasing skills are a hit and miss. I managed to tease 2/3 girls today but the one I was interested in (chinese hb6), I failed horribly at it, while the other two who I didn't give a **** were really into it.

That second year girl didn't show up to my bachata class either. I ended up spending a large part of the class dancing with some fat brown girl. I could see the sweat dripping from her armpits when I was dancing with her yuck. I got commented on my wingtip shoes by another HB6 in my bachata class. Also there were a new couple who came to our class today. Some asian guy and a black chick. I got the chance to dance with the black chick. I was just being friendly and asking her what her name was, etc and I glanced over and her bf had a pissed off look like he wanted to kill me haha. I wasn't even flirting or teasing her or anything. Man do guys seriously get that insecure? If you don't want other guys to dance with your girl then for christ sakes don't take her to a dance class. He should have just taken it himself and then taught it to his gf on his own.

All is not lost though. I had pm'd two members on the rsdnation website yesterday after meeting up to do cold approaches. Both of them got back to me with them numbers. I was texting back and forth with one of them a little while ago. We agreed to meet up this friday to do some cold approaches in some dive bars downtown. We'll see if he follows through because so far, everyone has really let me down.

 

[thunder_god]

Week 8 day 3: Today started off pretty ****ty. I was in a good mood listening to a dance song and started to practice dancing in my house and imagining how I would be approaching girls today but then 1-2 hrs later my mother starts *****ing to me about things again. I get into a heated argument with her and it really ruined my mood. I went back to the RW and CO store at the mall where that fat persian girl working the cashier was working who I talked to last week. I intended to buy a dress shirt but they ran out. I spoke to her and had her give me suggestions and opinions. We talked about clothes for a few minutes. I think between 3-5 minutes. I tried to use rex's opening but I chickened out and didn't deliver the last half of the opener.

Me: Hey, I'm going to need your help selecting a shirt for going out. Don't pick something tacky and weird otherwise my friends are going to make fun of me and I'm going to cry.
Her: no real reaction lol
Me: Start talking about clothes
Her: bringing me around the store offering suggestions

I wasn't getting anywhere so I thanked her and left. I walked around the mall trying to make eye contact with girls so that I could try to flash a smile. No takers. Not a single person made eye contact with me. Really bad start to my day.

Next I headed downtown to the other mall after repeated failures at this mall. First I hit up the other RW and CO store where that smoking hot HB9 blonde with the grey skirt was working. I walked in and scanned the store. She wasn't there, wtf. The employees were mainly dudes except one girl at the cashier. I didn't bother to try and just left. Again, I'm trying to make eye contact with girls as we walk by. No one looks at me. I thought I was pretty well dressed for today. Pink polo shirt, with dark jeans and black converse shoes. I then head over to hollister. As I walk in, I see a girl that looks very young like still in HS working at the front. We both say hi, how are you. Then I smile at another girl who also looks like she is from HS folding clothes. I walk into the store deeper, but can't find anymore girls working inside. I decide to head out. Next I head over to the forever 21 store. As I walk in, I see some black chick by the jeans. She turns around and says hi. I say hi. I knew I had to talk to someone else for today so I made some bs excuse about asking for her recommendations for jeans. After spending like half a minute talking about different jeans, it looked like it wasn't going anywhere. I decide to try rex's opener one last time.

Me: hey, I need your help selecting a shirt for going out but don't give me anything wacky or crazy, otherwise my friends are going to laugh at me and make me cry. Then I'm going to come back here and blame you.
Her: she kind of laughs (weak laugh)
Her: starts asking me questions about t-shirts
Her: you can also get a shirt with a sports team on it
Me: I don't watch sports
Her: no? really?
Me: ya, I prefer to play sports instead
Her: ya true
Her: aren't you going to watch the fifa world cup?
Me: oh well ya
Her: my cousin gets free trips to play for these national teams
Me: how about you?
Her: no
Me: ask your cousin to take you
Her: they won't (laughs)
Me: What team are you rooting for?
Her: either Spain or Brazil

we start talking about clothes and stuff now.
Her: maybe try one of these tank tops
Me: well, I kind of need the body for that
Her: how about these designs
Me: it seems alittle adventurious for me
Her: being adventurious is good
Me: ya

We walk around some more and It didn't seem the conversation was going anywhere
Me: I think I'm in the wrong store then
Her: I guess
Me: pretends to look around some more
Me: thanks

I take off. The whole conversation and time was probably around 5 or so minutes.


Next I head over to banana republic. I spoke a HB8 blonde stocking clothes. She has her back towards me. I hesitate for a second then she turns around and we both say hi. Then I ask her to grab me the v neck sweater they have on display on the mannequin in the front. She calls some dude over and then he makes me walk with him to find the sweater. They didn't end up having it anymore, what the hell. I pretty much got ****blocked so I leave. Again, I walk around the mall trying to make eye contact but can't get a single girl to look at me. In my head as I was walking around I was saying " come on, come on, look at me" lol as I was walking around trying to get people to make eye contact with me. I also intended to go up to girls and say hi to them if I made eye contact. At this point, I'm pretty ****ing frustrated and just give up. I was really disappointed and pissed off at myself. Why the hell can't I just walk up to a girl and just say hi? What the hell is wrong with me?

I walk over to the foodcourt to grab some food. As I look for a table and spot an empty table, I see two asian girls beside the empty table. They are both laughing and giggling. I see one of them is taking a picture of the food they ordered. I was intending to ask them what it was, but then waited too long and ended up chickening out. ****! I just sat beside them while eating my food being all pissed off. I called it quits for today after that.

I headed over to my wing chun class afterwards. As I'm walking to my class, I spot a middle aged women in workout clothes. We both make eye contact. Finally I found someone who made eye contact with me. I give her a half assed smirk but then got nervous and looked away lol. In my head I was saying "****". Then I look back at her, and she is still staring at me with an intense bat**** crazy look. After I'm done my wing chun class, I'm like ah ****, I didn't really do jack **** today. At this point, I pull out my headphones and listen to music. I'm just standing there and I see a few girls walk to the same bus stop as me. I notice the streetcar is taking forever. I see three girls looking at a posted bulletin. One of them takes off, and I figured I needed the practice so I cold approach one of them.

Me: There's service in this route
Her: ya

She didn't really take the bait, but I was wasn't going to let today end like this. After a minute or so, I tried again and used a little persistance. I went right up to her.

me: the streetcar sure is slow, they usually come quite frequently
her: ya, there's suppose to be one in about 7 minutes
me: must be the construction they are doing down the line
her: ya
I wait a few seconds, I wasn't going to let the conversation end like this.

me: you go to u of t?
her: yes
me: what are you studying?
her: commerce
me: rotman's eh?
her: ya
me: what are you majoring in?
her: probably accounting or finance. I'm only in first year
me: those tend to be the most popular choices
me: so why accounting or finance?
her: I guess because there are more jobs and they are more versatile
me: well anything can be versatile
her: I guess
me: so your picking that only because there's more jobs?
her: well I like math, and doing calculations
me: then why not math, or actuarial science?
her: thats too much math (weak laugh)
me: what about physics?
her: nah
her: are you a student at u of t?
me: ya
her: what are you studying?
me: physiotherapy
her: what year?
me: first year, my program is only 2 years long.
me: its a professional masters program
her: oh
me: you better enjoy your undergrad while it lasts
her: weak laugh
me: we have like 40 hrs of class a week. Were in class pretty much from 8-5 everyday.
her: weak laugh

The conversation then dies lol. I probably talked to her for like 2 or so minutes. I didn't bother to talk to her anymore and just put on my earphones. Then the streetcar arrives but its jam packed. I managed to squeeze in, but then I notice she decides to stay behind. Just as I was about to wave to her to get on, the doors close lol.

Well that's about it for today. My original goal was to say hi or even smile at 10 people but I didn't even managed to do that to a single person. I guess I sort of redeemed myself a little bit by cold approaching that girl at the bus stop and striking up a conversation with her which is suppose to be harder but it felt easier. I guess thats because I wasn't really trying and just didn't give a ****, whereas before I was trying to hard and overthinking everything. I tried to use chase amante's conversation technique called deep diving, where you try to get them to elaborate abit more as to why they choose to go into a specific field or job or whatever it is. It was kind of hard to do with her, because she didn't really give me anything to hook onto. This was my second time trying this technique. I tried it yesterday with that arab girl when we were walking to bachata class and I was busting her balls like crazy. This was my first successful cold approach where I managed to talk to a girl for more than 30 seconds.

 

[beatjunkie]

Thunder,

Impressive motivation and drive you got there. I got a few tips

Try the food court at the mall. Walk in, see any group of girls seated and eating, walk over and say "hi, i have a question, i'm thinking of getting something gourmet and exotic today, what do you suggest? burger king or mcdonalds (or any other fast food place that your mall has)?" If they laugh then you say "lol ok I'll try the Ronald McDonald cuisine, mind if i join you with my food after? If they don't say anything, say "ah nevermind, just wanted to say hello anyways, what's/what are your name(s)?"

Reason I am saying this is that most girls at the cashier are fed up with cold approaches and been taken for a ride around the store by someone interested in them. This is why you are getting weak laughs from them. they heard it all buddy.

Also, hit the gym and get in shape. immediately.