al77
Master Don Juan
1. Are you always dressed well? Everyday? The way you look iv VERY important for women. I notice that I tend to see cute girls in similar situation: when I am tired and not thinking about them at all. Just be ready with your clothes to meet women everyday: good shoes, good jeans, good shirt - at least. That will make an impression even without you talking to her.Originally posted by allan976
Me: "how you doing?"
Her: "good." she walks away and gets some more stuff to stock on the shelves.
She's back after a second and we fluff about her going to school, her work, and some other stuff I can't remember. I get her name, shake her hand, and stroke her arms and back, telling her she's getting a great upper body workout by stocking shelves.
Me: "go ahead and give me a double bicep pose."
Her: Thinks for a second. "Noooooo!!" She's laughing like crazy, and she almost struck the pose for me.
I run out of stuff to say. She picks up the slack:
Me: "are you having a good day." Nice. Give the girl some credit. She wants to make this happen.
Unfortunately, I feel like shyt and am sick as hell due to the commute from hell. I want to close, but I feel like crap and decide to pick this up again.
Me: "nice talking to you, anna."
Her: "byeeee".
In retrospect, I shoulda just said: "let's pick up this conversation later, gimme your number."
2. You might say "Yeah, the day was incredible, felt like I was on the beach while driving on the highway. Are you a good swimmer? (No? - I can teach you...even without water. What's your email?) (Yes? when did you learn it? Was it easy? Lets swim sometimes - what's your email?)
Why did you want to 18 y.o.? The most you can get out of that situation is to feel like a) she is dumb b) you are dumb cus what she says seem dumb.
Stop by for some lunch at the grocery store. Nothing, except for a tall HB8: 5' 9" very young chick (18?) with a smokin' bod in butt/thigh hugging jeans and tight blouse with mini sweater. I give her the eye, she catches me, locks eyes with me for a second and smiles back. Too bad she's with her mom!
She seems surprisingly bytchy and not at all shy after all!
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me: 'well, I better get going. We can continue this conversation later....'
her: 'yeah, well I'll see you around at the gym...' she clearly knows that I am going to try to get a number and is attempting to cut me off at the pass (or is it just my imagination in retrospect?).
me: 'I think I'm gonna go get some work done. Give me your number and we'll talk later.'
Lesson learned: develop a rapport the FIRST time you meet a girl and close right then and there. Waiting for a second or third conversation places you in the friend's zone, or simply gives the target time to think up possible objections. Closing the first time allows you to control the frame and allows the girl to 'get caught up in the moment.'
Critiques of my approaches are welcome.
Number closes: 4 (Numbers active: 2)
Dates: 0
The bytchy girl: well... probably she was not worth to try to close...Anyway "Give me your number and we'll talk later.' sounds a bit too direct and too dominating for the first time.
How about somehting more light, like "Shoudl get going. I'll talk to you later...by the way what's your email\number?" Though it would not change the outcome anyway.
Just I think many girl would cringe if they sense you are hitting on her too directly (there are people around she might think.. oh..he should not be that obvious).
Another variant: "I'll talkj to you later.. so how can I get a hold of you, what is your email?"
Another: when you are about to leave simply give her your business card (or somebody's business card - if she ask who is this - say it is my friend - so at least you will get some little social proof - you have friends who are in business). Give it to her with blank side up and say "Hold it for sec" as if you need to free your hands since you are getting...a cool pen with "So what is a good way to get a hold of you?" give the pen to her.
Yes, you conclusion is perfect! Rapport is everything!
And irght, if you wait for another time to close... well she will think that you a) were not confident b) did not really like her since you didn't even ask for her number.
They think that stupid way... they dont care that there was no time to develop rapport..they think "He didn't ask rght away - he is not interested. Why should I give my number to a guy who is not really interested in me?" So close right there!
But there is another side to it: is she is bytchy...no rapport - there is no point in asking for the number. At most you will get a fake one or a permanent answering machine and will ponder why
she is so odd.....that drains energy. Just don't close on those bytchy gals.
Thats awesome you provide actual convos scripts!!!
Did you read Leil's books? What other book you read about convos? What would you recommend to read?
And by the way, what happend to the numbers you got? you didn't call them yet? Were the girls flakes or somehting?