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[GoodMan32]

We'd all be ecstatic, if we didn't have to work ten times harder and more cunningly than our attractive young female colleagues do, in order to get ahead in our careers... Not even guys with male model looks are sympathized with as readily as beautiful young women are

Alas, this(men having to expend effort in order to fulfill our desires, that is) ain't the way life operates, and no amount of protesting or fantasizing over such things coming to pass will ever change that

Umm, I'm a man, yet I could easily get ahead in my career if it weren't for the fact my mental illnesses/ASD prevent me from being able to handle a promotion.

I've had bosses beg me (and harass me incessantly) about how badly they've wanted me to accept a promotion.

Put another way: Even a man who doesn't want a promotion has had promotion offers thrown at him. Surely a man who wants a promotion could easily get one.

If only cooch were thrown at me with the same passion promotion offers have been thrown at me.

 

[GoodMan32]

It's not that hard to attract or pull "average" women. Mid women are everywhere and not that interesting. Most of the men here complaining about the "abundance" women have would probably turn their nose up at an average woman who came onto him.

I can't speak for other men on here.

I'd be thrilled for a chance for a romp with an average woman in my preferred age demographic.

The abundance thing is real by the way. Even an average woman has suitors galore on swipe apps. No way does an average man have the same degree of abundance.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Umm, I'm a man, yet I could easily get ahead in my career if it weren't for the fact my mental illnesses/ASD prevent me from being able to handle a promotion.

Hard time holding onto a woman

I've mentioned on this forum before that most of the free sex I've had came from Craigslist (and other than the married woman I had the monthlong affair with from Craigslist, every Craigslist escapade was a one night stand). It's been suggested on this forum that even though a non-Chad might get...

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[GoodMan32]

Hard time holding onto a woman

I've mentioned on this forum before that most of the free sex I've had came from Craigslist (and other than the married woman I had the monthlong affair with from Craigslist, every Craigslist escapade was a one night stand). It's been suggested on this forum that even though a non-Chad might get...

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My mental illnesses and ASD aren't excuses; mere facts of life.

 

[corrector]

It's not that hard to attract or pull "average" women. Mid women are everywhere and not that interesting. Most of the men here complaining about the "abundance" women have would probably turn their nose up at an average woman who came onto him.

Agree with GM. That is simply not true. While I do have limits (if the woman is into something demonic or occultic then I would pass), I dont have much in preference. I have even subbed a fat hor on OF. It shows that I am not that picky.

 

[BaronOfHair]

My mental illnesses and ASD aren't excuses; mere facts of life.

Most human beings are susceptible to psych disturbances of some sort, hoss. You really aren't that special

 

[GoodMan32]

Agree with GM. That is simply not true. While I do have limits (if the woman is into something demonic or occultic then I would pass), I dont have much in preference. I have even subbed a fat hor on OF. It shows that I am not that picky.

Are you open to getting married ever again?

Asking because your refusal to partake in sex outside of marriage puts you in a unique position compared to the vast majority of men on here.

 

[GoodMan32]

You and I view abundance very differently. And women will view it even more differently, because (despite incels blathering about women riding the penis carousel) women are more interested in whose penis they let in. Most women won't stoop to dumpster diving.

Abundance means the availability of ATTRACTIVE intimate partners, because when getting sex is no longer difficult, you want the improved version. Starfishes need not apply.

Plenty of attractive men get overlooked by broads for whatever reason. Not just me. Vice made a short YouTube documentary about an attractive incel.

Here's a screenshot of the incel:



Then here's the journalist interviewing him:



Ironically, the incel looks better than the journalist.

 

[Lean Baby Face]

A lot of these "unattractive" men are really average.

If a man had thousands of average broads orbiting him, he'd be ecstatic.

I'd say majority of men that use OLD happen to be below 5s, at least when it comes to appearance. I once tried to do a search for males just to see what they looked like, and damn, no wonder why a woman would only reply to the top 5% of all men approaching her if that's what the average man on OLD looks like.

I remember in the past I actually had a few women writing to me "Are you real?" as their first message. Taking care of your appearance and making an effort to look good on photos can do wonders, at least when trying to catch a woman's attention. Once you got her attention though, that's when looks starts becoming less important, sadly...

 

[GoodMan32]

You're absolutely right. They aren't excuses. You just use them as excuses.

The vast majority of the female population will never find an autist sexually exciting. That's a fact.

 

[GoodMan32]

I'd say majority of men that use OLD happen to be below 5s, at least when it comes to appearance. I once tried to do a search for males just to see what they looked like, and damn, no wonder why a woman would only reply to the top 5% of all men approaching her if that's what the average man on OLD looks like.

I remember in the past I actually had a few women writing to me "Are you real?" as their first message. Taking care of your appearance and making an effort to look good on photos can do wonders, at least when trying to catch a woman's attention. Once you got her attention though, that's when looks starts becoming less important, sadly...

Perhaps in Europe, it's mainly below average men (in terms of looks) using online dating/hookup platforms.

For us Yanks, while I admittedly haven't paid a whole lot of attention to men's profiles on online dating/hookup platforms, I've heard plenty of men with at least average looks mention that they use (or have used) online dating/hookup platforms.

Hell, when I was in college, I even remember a popular jock I went to high school with using OLD.

Also when I was in college, I remember a girl on POF telling me I look too good to be single.

There are a number of reasons a man who isn't ugly might use online dating (social awkwardness, too low of an income to impress the typical woman in real life, has niche preferences, not enough time to meet a woman in real life, broads in his social circle are overwhelmingly taken, etc)

 

[corrector]

Are you open to getting married ever again?

Yes. However, I'm not in a financial position to get married and would be unable to be a provider in any traditional type of marriage. As marriages don't really work unless you have money, it becomes a silly thing ask since it's not a realistic option.

It's like saying, if I'm open to travel to the Philippeans when I'm just about broke.

Asking because your refusal to partake in sex outside of marriage puts you in a unique position compared to the vast majority of men on here.

When you are broke, fat, older, and struggling to suvive, you are not attractive to the opposite sex, then it doesn't matter whether I refuse or not since there is nothing to refuse in the first place. Whether you want to get laid, or get married doesn't matter if you are rejected by women in the first place.

 

[GoodMan32]

Yes. However, I'm not in a financial position to get married and would be unable to be a provider in any traditional type of marriage. As marriages don't really work unless you have money, it becomes a silly thing ask since it's not a realistic option.

It's like saying, if I'm open to travel to the Philippeans when I'm just about broke.



When you are broke, fat, older, and struggling to suvive, you are not attractive to the opposite sex, then it doesn't matter whether I refuse or not since there is nothing to refuse in the first place. Whether you want to get laid, or get married doesn't matter if you are rejected by women in the first place.

My question was a lead-up to what I'm going to say next.

Without trying to sound rude, I guess I'm not quite sure why you'd even want to become better with the ladies, if you're never going to have sex again.

I say "you're never going to have sex again" because you don't believe in sex outside of marriage, and, per your own admission, the idea of you getting remarried is unrealistic.

There was the woman at your workplace you asked out. Even though you were ultimately rejected by her, I guess I'm not quite sure what your end game was in asking her out (if you weren't going to ever marry her, therefore you'd never have sex with her even if she offered)

I totally get that there could be other reasons to ask out a woman you'll never have sex with. For example, even though all the attendees at the 1st speed dating event (and the vast majority of attendees at the 2nd speed dating event) looked young enough I'd probably chicken out of sex, I'd still be down for an actual date (To boost my self-esteem. To possibly watch her pee, which is every bit as enjoyable as sex to me. Also, the revenge of turning down sex with a young woman while she's naked in bed with me...something I've done before)

Perhaps you have reasons too of why you'd want a date with a woman you know you'll never agree to sex with.

 

[GoodMan32]

Plenty of attractive men get overlooked by broads for whatever reason. Not just me. Vice made a short YouTube documentary about an attractive incel.

Here's a screenshot of the incel:

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Then here's the journalist interviewing him:

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Ironically, the incel looks better than the journalist.

I read a brilliant comment on the YouTube vid.

The comment said "Public schools should teach schoolchildren how to succeed with the opposite sex. Then we won't have as many boys grow up to be incels."

That's a spectacular idea. Had my high school taught me how to succeed with girls, I likely wouldn't have ended up in the position I'm in. Even if I wouldn't slay, I at least would have had free sex more than once in the past 9 years.

 

[SW15]

Here's a screenshot of the incel:

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Then here's the journalist interviewing him:

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Ironically, the incel looks better than the journalist.

The female journalist is less looking good looking compared to other females than the male incel is compared to other males.

That female journalist has far more sexual abundance even with her mediocre to subpar looks. The female journalist doesn't look overweight but her overall looks would be dragged down by her glasses, teeth, and unimpressive facial aesthetics. That female journalist is likely to rarely ever go without sex.

Plenty of attractive men get overlooked by broads for whatever reason.

There was OkCupid data from a while back that showed women rated 80% of men as below average and unattractive.

That's mathematically impossible since only 49% of men can be below average.

It's possible for a man to be somewhat above average in looks and still struggle to get attention from women.

The best idea for any man is to build bigger muscles and have around 13-15% body fat. Ideally, he's 6'0"+.

A man puts himself in the best possible situation to succeed if he's 6'0"+, 13-15% body fat, and has a defined physique with some muscles. Playing a sport regularly also helps, even if it is something that is more cardiovascular like tennis or swimming. Some cardiovascular sport would need to be combined with weight training for muscles.

Men under 6'0" would also need to get 13-15% body fat and some muscles.

The comment said "Public schools should teach schoolchildren how to succeed with the opposite sex. Then we won't have as many boys grow up to be incels."

That's a spectacular idea. Had my high school taught me how to succeed with girls, I likely wouldn't have ended up in the position I'm in. Even if I wouldn't slay, I at least would have had free sex more than once in the past 9 years.

Not realistic. No public school would ever be able to get away with teaching the red pill ideas that are necessary to avoid being incel or borderline incel. The best that a public school might be able to teach is some level of social skills in order to have friends to get social circle introductions. Some blue pill ideology men with middle of the bell curve looks can get laid if they have a strong social circle.

You need to stop using the term "free sex". Very little sex is actually free. Men who get laid through conventional dating are often paying an indirect price for pussie. For some men, the price is lower. Top tier men getting laid off of swipe apps pay a lower price. Some men have to buy luxury watches and luxury brand cars in order to get laid through conventional dating, often with women who have some level of gold digger tendencies. Use the term conventional dating instead of free sex.

 

[GoodMan32]

The female journalist is less looking good looking compared to other females than the male incel is compared to other males.

That female journalist has far more sexual abundance even with her mediocre to subpar looks. The female journalist doesn't look overweight but her overall looks would be dragged down by her glasses, teeth, and unimpressive facial aesthetics. That female journalist is likely to rarely ever go without sex.



There was OkCupid data from a while back that showed women rated 80% of men as below average and unattractive.

That's mathematically impossible since only 49% of men can be below average.

It's possible for a man to be somewhat above average in looks and still struggle to get attention from women.

The best idea for any man is to build bigger muscles and have around 13-15% body fat. Ideally, he's 6'0"+.

A man puts himself in the best possible situation to succeed if he's 6'0"+, 13-15% body fat, and has a defined physique with some muscles. Playing a sport regularly also helps, even if it is something that is more cardiovascular like tennis or swimming. Some cardiovascular sport would need to be combined with weight training for muscles.

Men under 6'0" would also need to get 13-15% body fat and some muscles.



Not realistic. No public school would ever be able to get away with teaching the red pill ideas that are necessary to avoid being incel or borderline incel. The best that a public school might be able to teach is some level of social skills in order to have friends to get social circle introductions. Some blue pill ideology men with middle of the bell curve looks can get laid if they have a strong social circle.

You need to stop using the term "free sex". Very little sex is actually free. Men who get laid through conventional dating are often paying an indirect price for pussie. For some men, the price is lower. Top tier men getting laid off of swipe apps pay a lower price. Some men have to buy luxury watches and luxury brand cars in order to get laid through conventional dating, often with women who have some level of gold digger tendencies. Use the term conventional dating instead of free sex.

The fact the incel guy from the vid has better looks than the female journalist, yet he's an incel (and, per your own admission, the female journalist will never struggle to get laid), that's the type of sh1t Elliott Rodger was talking about when he said "what an injustice"

You're right, it's mathematically impossible for 80% of men to be below average. What's interesting is the fact men get smeared as being overly focused on a partner's looks, despite the fact the total opposite is true.

As for schools refusing to teach how to avoid becoming incels, if enough schools get shot up by incels, perhaps schools will rethink their priorities (and no, I'm not encouraging school shootings...merely stating a fact: with how much inceldom is skyrocketing, and how common school shootings are to begin with, it's realistic to think incel school shootings will be on the rise)

As for your suggestion I use the term "conventional dating," that's not entirely accurate either. Posting Craigslist ads for casual non-escort sex (which is how I've gotten a lot of my "free" sex) isn't exactly dating. Having a female passenger on public transportation chat me up, and then basically follow me home and get naked, that's not dating either.

My most recent instance of non-escort sex perhaps comes the closest to "conventional dating" (as even though we never went on a date, it took 2 years of flirting to get her into bed). On that note, she was born in 78. The fact even my autistic self could flirt a 78 baby into bed makes me doubt your claim that I'm worthless to an older woman (I was a few months away from turning 30 when we banged; not an early 20s boytoy)

 

[SW15]

My most recent instance of non-escort sex perhaps comes the closest to "conventional dating" (as even though we never went on a date, it took 2 years of flirting to get her into bed). On that note, she was born in 78. The fact even my autistic self could flirt a 78 baby into bed makes me doubt your claim that I'm worthless to an older woman (I was a few months away from turning 30 when we banged; not an early 20s boytoy)

You are seeking outlier events. Outlier events happen in life. To base an entire dating strategy around finding outlier events is not a good idea. Anyone who does that ends up wasting a lot of time.

it's realistic to think incel school shootings will be on the rise

I think that is realistic. Incel status is a factor in a lot of high school and college shootings.

 

[GoodMan32]

You are seeking outlier events. Outlier events happen in life. To base an entire dating strategy around finding outlier events is not a good idea. Anyone who does that ends up wasting a lot of time.



I think that is realistic. Incel status is a factor in a lot of high school and college shootings.

In addition to the 1978 baby I nailed for my last instance of non-escort sex (a few months before turning 30), there's more evidence to make my case (my case being: getting an older woman is more attainable for me than some of the naysayers make it sound):

• My 2nd to last date (at age 26) was with a woman whose exact age never came up, yet context clues suggested she was at least 45. And I got the date from her approaching me.
• My last date was with a 37 year old when I was 32 (even though 37 isn't as old as I prefer, I still feel it's worth mentioning)
• At a store I worked at as late as age 27, there were multiple female customers I got attention from who appeared to be 40+
• A woman older than my mom gave me an IOI at the gym when I was 31
• A woman born in 1967, who used to work in the building where I live, has complimented my looks before (doing the math, I would have been at least 28 at the time)

And that's not even including the luck I had with older broads when I was 20-23 (I excluded those because one could make the argument I was in boytoy territory from 20-23, which I've aged out of)

Would I have better luck if I was more open to getting with broads my age or younger? Probably. Then again, I'd also have better luck if I went gay. Rather than changing my preference (whether it be age preference or gender preference) though, it's more realistic to work with what my preferences are.

Moving on to the topic of incel shootings (as you said, incel shootings will likely grow more and more common). Even if schools don't start teaching boys how to avoid becoming incels, it's in society's best interest if boys learn somewhere (This is just me spitballing: Maybe a summer class teens could sign up for through a private company; just like how teens often take a private driver's ed class on summer break)

 

[SW15]

Would I have better luck if I was more open to getting with broads my age or younger? Probably.

I play the percentages in the mating environment as much as I can.

There are times where I will approach substantially younger women though.

 

[corrector]

My question was a lead-up to what I'm going to say next.

Without trying to sound rude, I guess I'm not quite sure why you'd even want to become better with the ladies, if you're never going to have sex again.

I say "you're never going to have sex again" because you don't believe in sex outside of marriage, and, per your own admission, the idea of you getting remarried is unrealistic.

There was the woman at your workplace you asked out. Even though you were ultimately rejected by her, I guess I'm not quite sure what your end game was in asking her out (if you weren't going to ever marry her, therefore you'd never have sex with her even if she offered)

I totally get that there could be other reasons to ask out a woman you'll never have sex with. For example, even though all the attendees at the 1st speed dating event (and the vast majority of attendees at the 2nd speed dating event) looked young enough I'd probably chicken out of sex, I'd still be down for an actual date (To boost my self-esteem. To possibly watch her pee, which is every bit as enjoyable as sex to me. Also, the revenge of turning down sex with a young woman while she's naked in bed with me...something I've done before)

Perhaps you have reasons too of why you'd want a date with a woman you know you'll never agree to sex with.

True, you mentioned you would get an ego boost at the possibility of having sex. I carry around $80 for an incall Spanish hooker that I know I will never use. Does it feel good that there is a girl who cant say no, or would even ask you if you want to fvck her if you act lile a total clueless dweeb during the session itself (which again I could, and had in fact in the past turned down an offer of sex by a prostitute. (Felt more ripped off then good but it kept my sanity enough to visit another escort). I have all the incall locations that I can just walk into, pick a Spanish girl, and be naked together with her. Yet no sex will happen because I am not married to her. Probably end up.dancing or cuddling, if at that.

In terms of civvies, there are too much social barriers as it is. Even a nice hi and hi back would be an ego boost. In fact, I flipped a coin, heads or tails to approach that lady who rejected me at work. Two times I did not approach because of the coin flip. Third coin flip I ended up approaching and we said to each other. It felt good I did that since I am still infatuated a bit with the same girl who rejected me. Like I cant help who I like. Like I am secretly hoping she will.change her mind, lol