article: Perspective: Where have all the good men gone?

[Bigpapa]

Perspective: Ready for a serious relationship? You’re probably a woman

Young men who are ready for committed relationships are in short supply compared to women.

www.deseret.com

my opinion: The "good men" these chicks are looking for have deduced that BetaMaxxing is just not worth it.

Yeah, better be an incel than a “beta”. Amazing advice

What other advices you have under your sleeve?

If everyone would be “alpha”, then the threshold for being alpha would only go up and most guys would still be “beta”. This is how things work

 

[Pandora]

Guys that want virgins to that degree are afraid because they don't compare well in the bedroom to other guys and want to eliminate that by finding a woman that doesn't know that they suck in bed.

I dont agree with this totally. Yes this is part of it but not the main reason. Lets be real no man wants a woman that has submitted her soul to many men.

This shows a lack of impulse control and self esteem. Virginity is preferable but there are many myths about the American virgin that I had to learn the hard way.

1.) They dont neccesarily get alpha widowed after you take their virginity. I have had hoes become alpha widowed way more than the 2 virgins I smashed. The hores cant get over me to this day. The virgins quickly let me go.

2.) Virgins often have no relationships skills. You are their first boyfriend so they are retarded when it comes to relationships. Virgins can be toxic too. Toxicity ends when you have processed your past trauma. Virgins have not done that. This applies to American virgins. Maybe virgins from 3rd world nations are different. I think they are. All I know is that American black female virgins are stubborn as fawk. Maybe white virgins are different idk.

 

[Bigpapa]

I just said one criteria "physique", no need to give all that mental masturbation for not sending a picture. My advice to you will be get in better shape before asking a virgin to commit.

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[SargeMaximus]

To be fair, some posters seem "obssesed/triggered" about this topic on both sides of the coin. My humble opinion anyway.

I prefer women with experience. You wouldn’t hire someone with no experience for a vital position in your company, why would you do it for your dating life?

 

[pipeman84]

I prefer women with experience. You wouldn’t hire someone with no experience for a vital position in your company, why would you do it for your dating life?

So you'd rather have a CFO who worked for a few other companies and ran them into the ground instead of getting someone right out of university?
A woman with experience is actually either a hoe, more or less, or a woman with experience in failed relationships. They are good for casual sex, sure, but not for commitment (the idea of article in OP).

 

[SargeMaximus]

So you'd rather have a CFO who worked for a few other companies and ran them into the ground instead of getting someone right out of university?
A woman with experience is actually either a hoe, more or less, or a woman with experience in failed relationships. They are good for casual sex, sure, but not for commitment (the idea of article in OP).

Why are you assuming the cfo ran their other companies into the ground? Your negative bias is blatant

 

[Dr.Suave]

Virgins are overrated.

They only have value because they are very hard to find. If 50% of all women were virgins, most people wouldnt care about this topic either way to begin with.

 

[Dr.Suave]

I prefer women with experience.

That´s fair. Now, imagine if everytime you said that, a bunch of people got triggered or something. call you "unrealistic/insecure/delusional". F01cking annoying.

 

[Dr.Suave]

I married a 22-year-old virgin. I know exactly why virginity is overrated.

One man's garbage...

 

[SargeMaximus]

That´s fair. Now, imagine if everytime you said that, a bunch of people got triggered or something. call you "unrealistic/insecure/delusional". F01cking annoying.

They do but I click the ignore button so I don’t see them anymore

 

[self_is_an_illusion]

Perspective: Ready for a serious relationship? You’re probably a woman

Young men who are ready for committed relationships are in short supply compared to women.

www.deseret.com

my opinion: The "good men" these chicks are looking for have deduced that BetaMaxxing is just not worth it.

Back in the day, it was mostly men going to college and holding down jobs. Now, women are hitting the books hard and getting degrees, sometimes even more than men, like at the University of Virginia mentioned in the article. Along with this, the way folks see dating and tying the knot is changing too. It looks like younger people are taking their time to settle down and are cool with keeping relationships casual. So, with more women in college and different views on dating, the old-fashioned dating scene is getting a little shake-up. This mix of school and new dating vibes is making it a bit tricky for some to find serious relationships during college and even after.

 

[pipeman84]

Guys that want virgins to that degree are afraid because they don't compare well in the bedroom to other guys and want to eliminate that by finding a woman that doesn't know that they suck in bed.

Here's another counterpoint to the above:
your belief that you're good in bed is based on what a woman or several women have told you. But when a particular woman has had sex with many guys, how do you know she didn't say the same thing to every one of them? And how worthy her opinion is anyway when it's well known that the more sexual partners she's had, the more messed up she is.

On the other hand, take a 22yrs old virgin, who has rejected guys hitting on her since she was 15. When she gives you her virginity, that's a factual statement that she considers you better than all the other guys she could've had sex with.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Here's another counterpoint to the above:
your belief that you're good in bed is based on what a woman or several women have told you. But when a particular woman has had sex with many guys, how do you know she didn't say the same thing to every one of them? And how worthy her opinion is anyway when it's well known that the more sexual partners she's had, the more messed up she is.

On the other hand, take a 22yrs old virgin, who has rejected guys hitting on her since she was 15. When she gives you her virginity, that's a factual statement that she considers you better than all the other guys she could've had sex with.

I don't have to hear it from them. I know I am an absolute monster in the bedroom. I'm in shape, I last forever, I can fvck hard for hours on end, I need less than a minute to recover after blasting, I understand how to make women feel amazing using every tool at my disposal, and I make women who say it's impossible for them to squirt, squirt routinely, many for the first time and some of them start freaking out while it is happening.

They are the ones usually asking for a timeout because the room is spinning from them them cvmming so many times and the sheets are completely soaked.

If other guys are able to do that, then fair game. I'm exceptionally confident in my abilities in that domain, and I have no problem telling them prior to anything happening. I'm pretty sure if I wasn't up to what I was talking they would let me know but it's actually usually the other way...I exceed their expectations even based on what I have told them ahead of time and they can't stop talking about it. Not just after it happens but on a routine every day basis.

And the number one way I know?

Because every woman I have ever dated that has introduced me to their friends has had at least one of them try to get at me and you know why that is...because they were told about my skills.

 

[pipeman84]

I last forever, I can fvck hard for hours on end, I need less than a minute to recover after blasting,

I don't know man, from my research women don't enjoy being fvcked hard for too long, let alone for hours on end. Physically it's not a pleasure anymore and it also makes them think the man doesn't find them attractive that's why he doesn't cvm. Somewhere between a two pump chump and hours of hard fvcking there's a sweet spot and it's probably around 15-20min mark.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I don't know man, from my research women don't enjoy being fvcked hard for too long, let alone for hours on end. Physically it's not a pleasure anymore and it also makes them think the man doesn't find them attractive that's why he doesn't cvm. Somewhere between a two pump chump and hours of hard fvcking there's a sweet spot and it's probably around 15-20min mark.

I suggest you do more research.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Here's another counterpoint to the above:
your belief that you're good in bed is based on what a woman or several women have told you. But when a particular woman has had sex with many guys, how do you know she didn't say the same thing to every one of them? And how worthy her opinion is anyway when it's well known that the more sexual partners she's had, the more messed up she is.

On the other hand, take a 22yrs old virgin, who has rejected guys hitting on her since she was 15. When she gives you her virginity, that's a factual statement that she considers you better than all the other guys she could've had sex with.

And 10 years into the marriage, more likely 7when she starts getting unhaaaaaaaappppyyyyy, she’s going to wonder even hard what other c0ck might feel like and how she “missed out” on the experiences she could have had if she wasn’t in a relationship with you…

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

My experience mirrors @BackInTheGame78 ’s pretty much, except I’m not used to being the pick of the litter; i need to talk to women to get them to notice me, once I’ve made them laugh I’m 99% sure I’m in eventually.

There certainly are those of us who are good at sex, have the receipts and know confidently that we’re exceptional.

But haters gunna hate.

 

[pipeman84]

And 10 years into the marriage, more likely 7when she starts getting unhaaaaaaaappppyyyyy, she’s going to wonder even hard what other c0ck might feel like and how she “missed out” on the experiences she could have had if she wasn’t in a relationship with you…

Theoretically, that can happen with any woman. In reality, it's much more probable to happen with a woman who already had the taste of several dycks. Let's take 3 similarly looking 22yrs old girls. The one is the virgin in my example, the 2nd has had 3 boyfriends, the 3rd has had casual sex with various guys and since 18 is a pornstar. The first 2 girls, while on the surface have a similar, what the society would call normal evolution, actually have a totally different mindset (as evidenced by their past), which projected in the future, let's say 10yrs into a marriage, give very different probable realities. The third one might as well be an alien when compared to the first 2.

 

[Gamisch]

If you're asking for a virgin that much, at least you should be every girls dream. I would like to see picture of your body, how much you weigh and how tall are you?

Lets cut the BS.

The only reason why men are looking for a virgin is due to severe insecurity issues. Scarcity that he'll be insufficient in comparison to other men. I can't come up with any other reason. Perhaps a ego thing, but WHY ON EARTH would a 40 y.o man STILL be on these little ego games??? Remember, this age is akin to being a GRANDFATHER. I agree with Gainz, you better be a powerful mogul if you wanna demand these things from life...

Here's the kicker tho: women are HARD WIRED to have lets say, "certain tendencies ". This gentlemen, is what we call FEMALE NATURE. Hence the word NATURE.

So you can try to outsmart nature, but the odds of making it actually work is slim to none. It's like trying to stop birds from flying south, or trying to stop storms above the ocean. A woman WILL stray at some point, and whenever she does will always be a painful moment. You can keep her in check for 20 years, one moment of weakness will destroy those 20 years...

I keep saying that the world is ever changing, we have no clue what life will be like ten or 15 years from now. Yes, @pipeman84 , i told you MANY times that 85 % of men have the same wish as you. But you also have to admit it stems from old school culture/thinking

We stil see old couples walking side by side every day, and every time we see this we tell ourselves:" cutdammit, I KNEW that it was still possible to meet a soulmate type of woman!!". We are from a generation that have (grand)parents that are married for 40 years ect.

We wouldn't even imagine that Only Fans would EVER be a thing when we only knew about pron from books and "very secretive parts" in the video shop. Newsflash: the videoshop, the VHS, and the books are all GONE. Its a new era.

 

[pipeman84]

I can't come up with any other reason.

read my replies on this thread and you'll see several reasons.

Here's the kicker tho: women are HARD WIRED to have lets say, "certain tendencies ". This gentlemen, is what we call FEMALE NATURE. Hence the word NATURE.

It's highly questionable that it's in female nature to be promiscuous. Even if that's so, it doesn't take more than an average woman to control those tendencies, just as most men can control their testosterone induced aggressiveness.

Yes, @pipeman84 , i told you MANY times that 85 % of men have the same wish as you.

I don't think so. Not even on a declarative level isn't the percentage that high. On an actual (meaning beliefs and actions derived from them) level, it's much much smaller.

We wouldn't even imagine that Only Fans would EVER be a thing when we only knew about pron from books and "very secretive parts" in the video shop. Newsflash: the videoshop, the VHS, and the books are all GONE. Its a new era.

It's a new era, but I don't think it automatically makes it a bad era because strippers are now on OF and porn is more accessible.