Angry AFC virgin killed seven people in drive by shooting [merged]

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Jaylan said:
No you cant.

What about all the other guys who dont do so well with women in the present day? Why arent they shooting up places and stabbing people? So to assume the PUA community is preventing murder is a large stretch. Especially when you consider the fact that Rodger had numerous displeasures in his life.

The kid had no male friends at all, and he raged when he would lose the lotto. Who goes out and buys weaponry for a rampage, just because they lost the lotto? Especially when youre already well-off, have status, and have a nice car.
Were James Holmes and Adam Lanza on PUA forums?

I don't go on them, but I actually believ PUA forums are doing a service to society by leveling the playing field. Without them AFCs would probably be even more angry. Everyone rushes to help gays and blacks, but no one rushes to help virgins even though they are suffering much more. It's taboo to say in public you're having trouble finding a girlfriend. Thus people like Eliot just snap.
 

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I hear names of Heartiste and just can't help but comment on the fact that the mainstream media cannot tell the difference between PUA and Manosphere/Red Pill.
 

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skinnyguy said:
Were James Holmes and Adam Lanza on PUA forums?

I don't go on them, but I actually believ PUA forums are doing a service to society by leveling the playing field. Without them AFCs would probably be even more angry. Everyone rushes to help gays and blacks, but no one rushes to help virgins even though they are suffering much more. It's taboo to say in public you're having trouble finding a girlfriend. Thus people like Eliot just snap.
Are you fvking serious with that post? There are virgins who are black or homosexual. Stop being daft here. Who the fvk needs to systematically rush to help virgins? And actually people tried to help this kid and he ignored them. Since when do virgins have the history of oppression racial minorities or even homosexuals had to deal with? Dont compare being a virgin to race. Thats very silly. You dont have to tell people youre a virgin...but folks cant hide being asian or black.

Fact of the matter is this IS NOT really just about virginity. Its about a obsessive, delusional narcissist whos anti social, recluse behavior lead him to be isolated from EVERYONE. Since you made this outlandish claim, please proof that pickup prevents murder. I could say spaghetti prevents cancer and make up faulty reasoning...but without factual analysis its a sh!te claim.

There are PLENTY of virgins and men with low partner counts who DONT murder people. Folks like Lanza, Holmes and Rodger are NOT normal. They dont know how to properly cope with regular life. READ THE RODGER MANIFESTO.

Its clear the kid had numerous underlying issues that PUA would not fix. He was already convinced the world was against him. He was already convinced he couldnt fix things. He didnt even try. People tried reaching out to them and he turned away. So what in the world makes you think someone who thinks like that would accept anything guys on this forum would try and tell them?

Get real bro. Read the writings...watch his videos. Rodger was not letting anyone in. Not potential friends, not family, not therapists, not any of the forums he went on. So please tell me how PUA would have changed anything? Prove to me how it prevents murder.

Watch this in-depth analysis of the manifesto people. Best thing Ive heard since this story broke.
 

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Yes not everyone is murdering people. But I will bet you $1000 that if Eliot Rodger were getting laid on the reg, 7 more people would be alive in Santa Barbara right now.
 

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I read parts of the manifesto and I could not help but notice that this guy like many minorities I know has a thing for blonde white women. Though there is nothing wrong with having a preference I could not have seen this guy receiving the help he wanted from any forum out there. First for some reason I notice that most users are not that comfortable talking about approaching and pursuing white girls. It is like in the entire PUA community (not to mention the manosphere and red pill), it is a taboo to like white girls. There is this whole "us vs them" mentality when it comes to white girls which is so powerful that Eliot would have immediately being forced to change his preference or told that they hate him for being the background he is. It would have made him crazy. I even see it on this forum where when I stated that white women are generally the most preferred, people accused me of being Skinnyguy when we aren't even the same race.

Now I have known asian guys who have done well with white girls but what bothers me is if this guy had this preference for these blondes he keeps talking about, why didn't anyone give him some advice?

Hit the weights to get some muscle and rush a fraternity. It is just that the PUA community has become infested with red pill whackoffs who have racist tendencies and are too selfish to share any decent advice with the guys out there that need it.

What I see is that much of the community is a shadow of its former self. Good advice is harder to come across than it was before and most forums are flooded with trolls looking to make another guy's life miserable rather than just offer some advice.

I think what happened was that the guys who were going to do well and were quick learners decided to leave the forum so they could live their lives. The guys that were not meant to be good with women became frustrated, stayed behind on the forums, and projected their frustrations and insecurities on to young and lost men in order to make others as miserable as them. That said I don't want to be a part of this latter group sooooooo

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skinnyguy said:
Yes not everyone is murdering people. But I will bet you $1000 that if Eliot Rodger were getting laid on the reg, 7 more people would be alive in Santa Barbara right now.
Dude, go look at the video I linked. Getting laid as an adult wouldnt have fixed a lot of Rodger's problems. He had huge emotional problems stemming from his childhood, as well as an odd outlook on sex. Just see the things he says about the first time he say porn.

He said it traumatized him.

Seriously, watch the video. Its long....but you can bounce around and skim through it.
 

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'PUA forums prevent murder'.

Well, obviously not in this case.

Then again, nothing was going to prevent this.

This has nothing to do with anything but one man's mental illness.
 

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I agree, once he'd have realized that sex ain't sh!t, that it really can be a drag, and make you tired and lazy and bogged down (too much of it), then it'd be like, "well fvck....THIS is what I've been frettin' about all my life?? wasting time, mental time?? Fvck!"

All of his hate manifested itself from not getting laid.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Tictac said:
Ted Bundy could get laid anytime he wanted skinny.

Where do you amateur psychiatrists dredge up such garbage?
^

The manosphere has become so big that they see everything in terms of alpha and beta, getting laid or not getting laid.

When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Yes of course the manosphere is right. It is because he couldn't get laid he killed people. Not because he came from a broken home where his father was NEVER present. Not because his father married another woman who proceeded to demean the kid. Not because he had deep racial insecurities about his own ancestry as well as height insecurities. Not because he was racist against almost every single race. Not because he was narcissistic yet had a huge inferiority complex. Not because he couldn't see all the good things and blessings he had received in life. Not because the dude wanted to murder his brother. Not because he hung out with some of the most negative people on the internet at PUAhate.com. Yes it is all because he didn't get his d1ck wet.

I've seen examples of people who so utterly fail with women. But usually they don't kill others. If anyone dies, it is usually cause they just do a single suicide. This kid, based on how he was raised, thought he deserved something from the world and when he didn't get it, he ended other people's lives because of it. He was a disturbed kid, but he was also a highly selfish kid.
 

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zekko said:
The dude seemed to be the antithesis of the PUA mindset, which teaches you above all to be confident. That guy had a very self defeatist attitude, plus you can tell he viewed women as the prize. All that talk about reaping vengeance on the men who took all the women from him.

I see he had Asperger's, that's probably the main thing that was holding him back.
Yes, I'm fairly sure that if he posted his 141 page manifesto and video here first, we would have highlighted quite a few mistakes in boldface.

On the contrary, he was a victim of Big Pharma and consumerism. I guarantee he was on some prescription med ****tail. Poor guy probably just needed a hug.
 

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He was spoiled. He was really afc. He cared way to much about what others are doing and what they have. He could have simply dated girls he was compatible with ie.. not girls who like jock/ frat dudes.

Some how he got caught up in the pattern off looking at every one else, instead of focusing on his self, and assessing his situation so he could figure out what he needs to work on, that would be the logical thing. Instead he just ran off of his emotions.

What he did is some sh!t a bdp would do.
 

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That's a big thing in his book he says he will kill himself by Downing the rest of his valum and canax
 

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The guy was a twisted hateball. And likely psychotic, sociopathic or both.

He just happened to latch on to his deficiencies with women as the vehicle he rode to his mayhem.

Ever try to read Ted Kaczynski's manifesto? It was just as whack as Rodgers.
 

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And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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ArcBound said:
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The manosphere has become so big that they see everything in terms of alpha and beta, getting laid or not getting laid.

When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Yes of course the manosphere is right. It is because he couldn't get laid he killed people. Not because he came from a broken home where his father was NEVER present. Not because his father married another woman who proceeded to demean the kid. Not because he had deep racial insecurities about his own ancestry as well as height insecurities. Not because he was racist against almost every single race. Not because he was narcissistic yet had a huge inferiority complex. Not because he couldn't see all the good things and blessings he had received in life. Not because the dude wanted to murder his brother. Not because he hung out with some of the most negative people on the internet at PUAhate.com. Yes it is all because he didn't get his d1ck wet.

I've seen examples of people who so utterly fail with women. But usually they don't kill others. If anyone dies, it is usually cause they just do a single suicide. This kid, based on how he was raised, thought he deserved something from the world and when he didn't get it, he ended other people's lives because of it. He was a disturbed kid, but he was also a highly selfish kid.
Oh lord...repped.

Such strong logic in this post. Hopefully it doesnt go over some folks heads.
 

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skinnyguy said:
Were James Holmes and Adam Lanza on PUA forums?

I don't go on them, but I actually believ PUA forums are doing a service to society by leveling the playing field. Without them AFCs would probably be even more angry. Everyone rushes to help gays and blacks, but no one rushes to help virgins even though they are suffering much more. It's taboo to say in public you're having trouble finding a girlfriend. Thus people like Eliot just snap.
lol.
 

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This media BS regarding the shooting is nothing more then libbo women retaliating against the PUA community for figuring out their wittle' twecrets'.
 

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Tictac said:
The guy was a twisted hateball. And likely psychotic, sociopathic or both.

He just happened to latch on to his deficiencies with women as the vehicle he rode to his mayhem.

Ever try to read Ted Kaczynski's manifesto? It was just as whack as Rodgers.
So do you believe there is a solution to psychopathic rages?

It seems like you believe people will be murdered no matter what.
 

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It's a nation of 315,000,000 people skinny, the largest plural and diverse nation the world has ever seen.

There will be a larger number of homicidal psychopaths than anyone would like. They need not use guns, they can use bombs or any number of other means to vent their rage.

Russia's murder rate is twice the US rate. The rate of Russian gun ownership is 75% less than the US. Guess what the number 1 murder implement is in Russia?

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