Angry AFC virgin killed seven people in drive by shooting [merged]

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it's funny when something like this happens, everyone runs to protect their own interests


pua sites run to say it has nothing to do with them


gun people run and say it's nothing to do with them he was crazy


his parents are quick to put out statements to show they tried to work with him he was just crazy


his "Friends" get on TV and say hey we tried to talk to him and we couldn't he was crazy


yet, no one really wants to ask the questions to understand why he would do what he did.


that's why nothing will ever get done about this type of stuff. that's why it will happen again and again and again and again. We're too PC a country to ask tough questions
 

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He was a regular at PUAHATE
I heard this on the news also and it explains why puahate.com has closed down. Doesnt surprise me. I head another member committed suicide earlier this year and another killed his ex gf a few years back. I guess thats what happens when you have no solutions to your dating problems, you become psychotic.
 

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n00bPimp said:
I heard this on the news also and it explains why puahate.com has closed down. Doesnt surprise me. I head another member committed suicide earlier this year and another killed his ex gf a few years back. I guess thats what happens when you have no solutions to your dating problems, you become psychotic.
Yup.

PUAhate is a place for guys to talk about their frustrations which is good. But it also leads to a lot of negativity. I was banned from PUAHate for telling the truth. I guess the mods didn't see it that way.

Does anyone here know of a way we can help AFC's so that there aren't more body bags?
 

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If you listen to his videos, he's clearly severely narcissistic - probably would be legitimately diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder
 

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backbreaker said:
it's funny when something like this happens, everyone runs to protect their own interests


pua sites run to say it has nothing to do with them


gun people run and say it's nothing to do with them he was crazy


his parents are quick to put out statements to show they tried to work with him he was just crazy


his "Friends" get on TV and say hey we tried to talk to him and we couldn't he was crazy
That's because everyone's trying to blame someone, they're deflecting.

In our world, there has to be an outside reason for something like this. It can't be accepted as natural. For people to move on with a normal life, there needs to be an excuse, scapegoat. And that reason needs to be as far away from their own life, so as not to be able to shake their own foundations.
 

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As soon as I saw Elliot Rodger's video after hearing about this tragic story, I knew I would find a discussion here. And sure enough, I was right.

We don't know anything about this guy and his experience. Despite not knowing his height or weight (he looked like he was on the thin side), I have to say that he was better looking than I expected and he had on a stylish shirt and had his own car. But that doesn't mean anything because we all know guys with this and more who still get rejected by girls. But we don't even know that much about him. How often did the talk to girls? Did he approach? Did he ever actually get rejected? How did girls generally treat him? If he approached, did he approach different girls, or was he only going for one type? I didn't read his manifesto, so maybe some of these questions can be answered.

The only thing I can say is that a lot of us could relate to this guy at one point in our lives. Not in terms of how he chose to deal with the situation but in terms of his feelings of loneliness, desperation, and frustration in not being able to get girls. I've seen a lot of opinions believing that this kid suffered from mental illness, a rich kid who felt a sense of entitlement, or that he was a plain misogynist. To me, he appeared to be, dare i say, a normal kid who unfortunately snapped out of frustration. He also could have been a kid who could have gotten what he wanted if he put himself out there. But again, we don't really know his whole story.
 

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Juan_Man said:
As soon as I saw Elliot Rodger's video after hearing about this tragic story, I knew I would find a discussion here. And sure enough, I was right.

We don't know anything about this guy and his experience. Despite not knowing his height or weight (he looked like he was on the thin side), I have to say that he was better looking than I expected and he had on a stylish shirt and had his own car. But that doesn't mean anything because we all know guys with this and more who still get rejected by girls. But we don't even know that much about him. How often did the talk to girls? Did he approach? Did he ever actually get rejected? How did girls generally treat him? If he approached, did he approach different girls, or was he only going for one type? I didn't read his manifesto, so maybe some of these questions can be answered.

The only thing I can say is that a lot of us could relate to this guy at one point in our lives. Not in terms of how he chose to deal with the situation but in terms of his feelings of loneliness, desperation, and frustration in not being able to get girls. I've seen a lot of opinions believing that this kid suffered from mental illness, a rich kid who felt a sense of entitlement, or that he was a plain misogynist. To me, he appeared to be, dare i say, a normal kid who unfortunately snapped out of frustration. He also could have been a kid who could have gotten what he wanted if he put himself out there. But again, we don't really know his whole story.
Good point. Maybe the whole time he rejected himself, and blamed others. It's the same as if you don't respect yourself, others won't respect you.

I read this article that younger people are more and more stressed out now, than younger people 15 or 20 years ago.

Pressure to fit in, pressure to get good grades, pressure to get a high paying job.

He just went full afc, this why you dont go full afc.:crazy:
 

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To me it is pretty obvious that deep down, he is either gay or bi. He has probably been fighting that his entire life inside and led to all kinds of issues. Just listen to him speak though. And look at his face. He looked like a lesbian to me. Lots of gay signs.
 

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backbreaker said:
it's funny when something like this happens, everyone runs to protect their own interests


pua sites run to say it has nothing to do with them


gun people run and say it's nothing to do with them he was crazy


his parents are quick to put out statements to show they tried to work with him he was just crazy


his "Friends" get on TV and say hey we tried to talk to him and we couldn't he was crazy


yet, no one really wants to ask the questions to understand why he would do what he did.


that's why nothing will ever get done about this type of stuff. that's why it will happen again and again and again and again. We're too PC a country to ask tough questions
In the end they will label young men in general, and fight harder against masculinity. The funny part is women kill their children all the time, you never hear of a man doing that.
 

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To me it is pretty obvious that deep down, he is either gay or bi. He looked to me like a girl in a mans body. He has probably been fighting that his entire life inside and led to all kinds of issues. Just listen to him speak though. And look at his face. He looked like a lesbian to me. Lots of gay signs.
 

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Roosh is a fvking joke. He clearly ignores the fact that the kid never really tried to fit in, and only did things to alienate himself from society.

http://www.returnofkings.com/36135/...if-pua-hate-killer-elliot-rodger-learned-game

And I definitely dont think getting laid would have fixed how messed up that kid was. Can you imagine how he would handle an argument in a relationship? Or a breakup? He tried shoving strangers off ledges at a party. He killed innocent people who had no connection to him. Just imagine what he might be capable of had someone truly slighted him unjustly.

That may be presumptuous of me to say...but I think its far more logical than the tripe Roosh is pushing. Hes placing blame on forum folk and people around Rodger, instead of analyzing the facts about Rodger himself. The kid was privileged and well off, but was obsessed with becoming even richer. He raged and got depressive over not winning the lottery. He actually went out and learned how to shoot after that.

The kid was simply entitled about a whole lotta sh!t. And Roosh is saying puzzy would prevent those kinds of mental and emotional problems. Clown.
 
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Jaylan said:
Roosh is a fvking joke
Jaylan said:
Tyler is a scammer
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Dont get me started on that clown Roissy.
Sheeesh is there anyone (non black and not a faggot) you actually like gaylan?

You talk like a chick.

Edit:
Matter of fact from an 840 word sample:

Female = 1404
Male = 1128
Difference = -276; 44.54%
Verdict: FEMALE
 
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^And the manospambot is riding my jock again like the b!tch made degenerate he is. haha keep it coming buddy.

Are you actually trying to defend Roosh on Sosuave? Everyone here knows what a clown he is. This is the same guy who faked being arrested in order to cause a ruckus on his forums. Are you really defending that failed pickup guru? (whos really a whiny indian race troll himself imo)

EDIT: More evidence of what a total tool bag Rodger was.

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1048/386/original.jpg
 
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Roissy and guys like that like to say that women are attracted to mass murderers. They offer all the marriage proposals guys get on death row as proof. Here's a mass murderer. Had he lived, do you think he'd be getting marriage proposals from women wanting to "fix" him, or was he just too damn AFC?

backbreaker said:
that's why nothing will ever get done about this type of stuff. that's why it will happen again and again and again and again. We're too PC a country to ask tough questions
Unfortunately, I don't think there are any easy answers in this type of case. The truth is he probably is crazy, unstable, or at least a sociopath. But these types of shootings continue to happen, and I have no idea how we would even begin to stop it.

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That's because everyone's trying to blame someone, they're deflecting.

In our world, there has to be an outside reason for something like this. It can't be accepted as natural. For people to move on with a normal life, there needs to be an excuse, scapegoat. And that reason needs to be as far away from their own life, so as not to be able to shake their own foundations.
That's true, the media, and the country has to find a scapegoat. They always have to have someone to point the finger at to make them look like they're doing something about it.

The worst position you could ever be in is if you are somehow involved in the death of a celebrity, even tangentially. Because they will hang your ass from the highest tree. No matter how self destructive that celebrity had been, they are going to find someone to pay for it.
 

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Anybody with sense can see that this guy was the typical Average Frustrated Chump combined with being the worst kind of arrogant, entitled brat imaginable. The fact that some of you like Gaylan are throwing out 'nutjob' and trying to blame this on mental illness shows your true ignorance. That sh*t is a cop out when people don't really want to hear the truth...ie what CAUSED the mental illness. Which is sort of what feminism/liberalism is all about: ignoring reality so you can feel better. Feel being the operative word.
 

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cordoncordon said:
To me it is pretty obvious that deep down, he is either gay or bi. He has probably been fighting that his entire life inside and led to all kinds of issues. Just listen to him speak though. And look at his face. He looked like a lesbian to me. Lots of gay signs.
Nah he wasn't gay. He was an AFC who just couldn't get women. Look, UCSB has some of the hottest sluts you've ever seen. When you're on campus every day (I think he might have gone to Santa Barbara City College actually) and you see them, you're freaking h0rny all the time and you will get bitter fast if you realize you're not in the "in" crowd going to frat parties all the time. That and the fact that he got jumped are recipe for disaster.

AFC's are screwed for life. Women treat them worse than sh!t. Women only treat the buff alpha males well. I feel like the only way we can reduce the number of killing rampages in America is for women to give beta males a chance. Because if you look at the trend - all of the killers were single males who didn't have friends and couldn't get laid. That's got to tell you something. One of my friend's who is a feminist posted on Facebook that this is "gender based violence". Then she got offended when I said no, this is just guys who couldn't get laid taking it out on the world. I then challenged her to give me an example of a football player who was sleeping with all the cheerleaders and initiated a mass murder. She shut up after that.
 

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The guy was a victim to terrible advice which pushed him over the edge. I know he had mental problems and terrible childhood issues but it was coming online to internet forums full of virgins or sexless losers that screwed him over and pushed him over the edge. Watching it with this forum, our main problem should be helping guys get laid but you have dudes like Backbreaker and ForeverAFC who are more concerned with turning this forum into some drama room where they are trying to convince everyone that me, skinnyguy, ambition player, and hell maybe even dhoulmagus are the same people. Now what is the point of all that?

Here is what would have had happened had the guy come on here. He would have asked how he could get a blonde, everyone on here would have probably told him he can't because he is Asian, and then he would just gone mad. That in itself is the issue, you have AFCs and other sexless losers on this forum who are here to give "advice" or make up stories about a life in which they are married to some hot girl rather than just give good advice on here and help out a fellow man.

It is like a classic case of blind leading the blind. Some of the members here with a good reputation are full of so much **** that any of them would have been the ones pushing that guy over the edge had he come on here.

That is what we need to look at. How forums like this have turned to talking about pointless **** rather than just about getting girls and getting laid. It's sad and the worst part is clowns like backbreaker that make up stories about their life (fictional stories that is) will never be called out on their sh*t and will continue to make posts where they mislead young men.
 
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