Angry AFC virgin killed seven people in drive by shooting [merged]

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Tictac said:
Let's see your psychiatry creds Howard.

Whiny armchair analysis at its best.

'We' don't need to look at anything.

You need to search for clues, preferably somewhere else.
Lets see my psychiatry creds.

Respectable enough to determine that you are a crazy old piece of **** with a ****ty life. If that 63 age thing isn't true then you are full of ****.

We all know that eliot would have ended up a lot crazier had he come on here. You have a forum loaded mostly with sexually frustrated guy that don't get laid and just waste everyone else's time (backbreaker, you, ForeverAFC).
 

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Tictac said:
translation: I lack the wits to come up with a better reply so I am going to yawn knowing that I am an old fart with a terrible life. But I'll just spend the time on here so that way I can probably lie about my life and feel better about myself. Beats drinking my problems away. My ****ty life, oh what could have been.

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Post below me. LOL another ****ty reply that lacks any wit. More terrible posts from you.
 

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All PUA forums are under the radar of the media right now.

There are many articles that came out today basically blaming the PUA community for the shootings of this weekend. The media is doing a really good job at tarnishing our rep, calling us "women haters", misogynists, and using methods to control women.

Be careful what you say about the shooter please as this might get ugly. They are already twisting our posts and using them to their advantage. For example the media is claiming one forum poster called him a "hero". I'm sure this was posted as a joke or by a very disturbed person. This is really bad for us as we dont want to be associated with the guy or with hatred towards females in any way because its not true.

The guy was a member of puahate.com, which ironically is a site against PUA, but you know how the media are, they are associating that site with PUA community.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/california-shooting-elliot-rodgers-friends-3607196

Women-hating 'Pick-Up-Artist' groups laud the 'virgin killer' for his vile and murderous comments online

How 'Pick-Up Artist' Philosophy Shaped Mind of Alleged Killer Elliot Rodger
 

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Anybody with sense can see that this guy was the typical Average Frustrated Chump combined with being the worst kind of arrogant, entitled brat imaginable. The fact that some of you like Gaylan are throwing out 'nutjob' and trying to blame this on mental illness shows your true ignorance. That sh*t is a cop out when people don't really want to hear the truth...ie what CAUSED the mental illness. Which is sort of what feminism/liberalism is all about: ignoring reality so you can feel better. Feel being the operative word.
i normally don't agree with you but this is spot on IMHO


Rollo has said it more than once. AFC is a disease.



annnnnd this lol http://www.infowars.com/in-death-girls-and-boys-swoon-over-santa-barbara-mass-murderer/
 

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This is by far the most lucid assessment of the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oybAUKZhaMA

Right out the gate, it's pretty weird/stupid that the cops and his parents were not subscribed to homeboy's youtube feed. The ******* spelled out his plans there in black and white, even hours before the massacre. But as usual (and this is the ROOT of the problem) he is ignored and treated as unimportant.
The parents were basically royal f*ck-ups. There is far more blood on their hands than any political group (NRA,Men's Rights, etc etc).
 

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He may have had some underlying mental issues but getting laid by a hot chic or 2 would have prevented this. Loneliness leads to depression and depression leads to sleepless nights, and all sorts of other things which exacerbate underlying mental issues. I think this is why most of the guys are going off like that mall shooter in Maryland.

This culture has become so sexualized, if you don't get to participate it creates a rage like never seen before. You see everyone else getting laid except you. You get so angry/jealous you want to kill them.

Lucky this guy didn't take out more people like the VA Tech shooter. He wasn't getting laid either.
 

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The dude seemed to be the antithesis of the PUA mindset, which teaches you above all to be confident. That guy had a very self defeatist attitude, plus you can tell he viewed women as the prize. All that talk about reaping vengeance on the men who took all the women from him.

I see he had Asperger's, that's probably the main thing that was holding him back. And you can see from a lot of his comments that he was very clearly a sociopath. And notice that being a sociopath didn't seem to attract girls to him, did it?
 

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zekko said:
And you can see from a lot of his comments that he was very clearly a sociopath. And notice that being a sociopath didn't seem to attract girls to him, did it?
A psychopath wouldn't care about other peoples' opinion of him, so he isn't necessarily one. The way I see it all those comments are either just a fronted motive for his killings which he himself knows is a lie (same thing other psychopathic murderers do) and he's a psychopath, or he's not a psychopath and just really messed up in some other way.
 

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The way he talks in the video makes him seem like a sociopath.

Beta b1tch too
 

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speed dawg said:
Anybody with sense can see that this guy was the typical Average Frustrated Chump combined with being the worst kind of arrogant, entitled brat imaginable. The fact that some of you like Gaylan are throwing out 'nutjob' and trying to blame this on mental illness shows your true ignorance. That sh*t is a cop out when people don't really want to hear the truth...ie what CAUSED the mental illness. Which is sort of what feminism/liberalism is all about: ignoring reality so you can feel better. Feel being the operative word.
lol imbecile...did you read the manifesto or watch his videos?

This was NOT just about women. He reacted this way about money, men, and other things as well. Stop eating what the media is feeding you are the cause of all this. Its deeper than merely saying hes an "AFC" who couldnt get laid. The kid couldnt handle ANY adversity at all. Vagina wouldnt have fixed this or stopped what happened.

Thats convenient monday morning quarterbacking by some of you. Theres no way to say puzzy would have stopped this...especially when we see maniacs carry out similiar and sometimes even worse acts of murder despite having not been recluse virgins. Ive seen guys bring up the fact that some serial killers have done well with women....but now people are trying to say thats the root of it all with Rodger?

So which is it gonna be? I say its neither...and that entitlement, narcissism, and a huge disconnect with everyone (not just women) caused all this. How can anyone read the parts about his obsession with lotto and say vagina fixes this? The guy raged when he kept losing lotto, and went out to buy weapons and practice using them at a target range. He wanted to kill other people for being more well off than him...despite the fact that his spoiled ass had a good wealthy life already.

He abhorred his father for not being more famous. This was a kid whos dad knew famous people, worked on blockbuster movies, went to private Katy Perry concerts...yet that wasnt enough status for him. And also, he didnt want just any woman either...he felt entitled to a particular type of girl. His life was filled with thoughts of inadequacy. He had money but wanted more of it...so do you think screwing the cute girl next door would fix anything? He would have been pissed at the world because he wasnt getting even better than her.
 
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AttackFormation said:
A psychopath wouldn't care about other peoples' opinion of him, so he isn't necessarily one. The way I see it all those comments are either just a fronted motive for his killings which he himself knows is a lie (same thing other psychopathic murderers do) and he's a psychopath, or he's not a psychopath and just really messed up in some other way.
The second article posted this statement:

He posted in 2013, 'If you could release a virus that would kill every single man on Earth, except for yourself because you would have the antidote, would you do it?'

'You will be the only man left, with all the females. You would be able to have your pick of any beautiful woman you want, as well has having dealt vengeance on the men who took then from you.

'Imagine how satisfying that would be."


If that isn't a psycopathic statement, I don't know what is. It shows complete lack of empathy for "every single man on Earth", and only recognizes his own pleasure as a motivating source.

Lol at this statement from the same artice though:

Pick-Up Artists, or PUAs', are men online who talk about their failure to secure girlfriends - and despair about forever being friends and not lovers.

That's seriously funny - PUAs are men online who talk about thier failures, lol.
 

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You could argue that the PUA community has prevented dozens of mass murders from happening by helping guys get laid.
 

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skinnyguy said:
You could argue that the PUA community has prevented dozens of mass murders from happening by helping guys get laid.
No you cant.

What about all the other guys who dont do so well with women in the present day? Why arent they shooting up places and stabbing people? So to assume the PUA community is preventing murder is a large stretch. Especially when you consider the fact that Rodger had numerous displeasures in his life.

The kid had no male friends at all, and he raged when he would lose the lotto. Who goes out and buys weaponry for a rampage, just because they lost the lotto? Especially when youre already well-off, have status, and have a nice car.
 

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I'm going to have to agree with Jaylan. Huge entitlement and narcissism caused by real problems in his life that he spun out of control.

Reading through his manifesto

-He hated blonde guys and was jealous of good lucking muscular men
-He hated blonde women because they dated everybody but him
-He hated his black friend because he lost his virginity at a much younger age than he did
-He hated his hispanic friends because they had success with women
-He hated his fat Jewish friend who managed to get laid
-He hated his parents for getting divorced
-He hated his mother for not marrying somebody rich
-He hated his heritage because he felt it made him short

His life was filled with hate and jealousy. He could never see the good stuff he had in his life. Despite the fact that he gets free BMW from his mom, free clothing at Nordstroms which is decently expensive, expensive watches, the dude was drowning in money for only being a college student. I had a friend with two doctors as parents and he never even got as much stuff as this kid did!

And this kid isn't even ugly. Sure he is shorter than average from what he seems to be saying, but I've had uglier and shorter friends than him get relationships and get laid. Not to mention he has his parents giving him whatever he wants lol.

Here's what I think. His mother pampered him as he was growing up, giving him free stuff all the time. He thought he deserved everything to just fall into his lap. It didn't, because you actually have to work on relationships, not just stroll in and redeem your free blonde girl card. He hated half of his self. He hated the fact that he was half asian instead of full white. When you have a deep ingrained hatred of yourself, combined with hatred of your family and envy of other people's families, genes, girlfriends, then I would expect him to go crazy. I believe somewhere in his manifesto his mom or step mom made fun of him for still being a virgin. That's really ****ed up.

But this is the part that's most messed up. This kid met with police and therapists multiple times people he went on his rampage. At the end of the sessions they concluded he was OK and had no danger. I wonder what the actual threshold would be for a therapist to say this person is really ****ed up and we need to correct/help him.
 

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DJ Logic said:
This is by far the most lucid assessment of the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oybAUKZhaMA

Right out the gate, it's pretty weird/stupid that the cops and his parents were not subscribed to homeboy's youtube feed. The ******* spelled out his plans there in black and white, even hours before the massacre. But as usual (and this is the ROOT of the problem) he is ignored and treated as unimportant.
The parents were basically royal f*ck-ups. There is far more blood on their hands than any political group (NRA,Men's Rights, etc etc).
Yeah, you beat me to it...posting Stephan's breakdown of the manifesto piece by piece (I couldn't have read it all, because I can't tolerate reading garbage, or insane sh!t toward the end). Molyneux basically toward the end, just sums up the truth, that this is an Infant entitlement thinking/words. His parents are to blame. Extremely pleasurably selfish parents shouldn't have kids, especially if they're gonna leave him alone or ship him off. He talks about vertical connection not available from his parents then he must seek horizontal connection from friends, and when that's denied, then all these other straws placed on this camel's back, the road finally leads to there.

But really, with all that money, the kid should have been able to land ANY woman, yet he wanted Only the blonde white girls, which makes this terrible act a racist (not just gender) one as well (but the media will never say it cause it's against whites).
 

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He may have had some underlying mental issues but getting laid by a hot chic or 2 would have prevented this. Loneliness leads to depression and depression leads to sleepless nights, and all sorts of other things which exacerbate underlying mental issues. I think this is why most of the guys are going off like that mall shooter in Maryland.

This culture has become so sexualized, if you don't get to participate it creates a rage like never seen before. You see everyone else getting laid except you. You get so angry/jealous you want to kill them.

Lucky this guy didn't take out more people like the VA Tech shooter. He wasn't getting laid either.
I agree, once he'd have realized that sex ain't sh!t, that it really can be a drag, and make you tired and lazy and bogged down (too much of it), then it'd be like, "well fvck....THIS is what I've been frettin' about all my life?? wasting time, mental time?? Fvck!"
 

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zekko said:
The dude seemed to be the antithesis of the PUA mindset, which teaches you above all to be confident. That guy had a very self defeatist attitude, plus you can tell he viewed women as the prize. All that talk about reaping vengeance on the men who took all the women from him.

I see he had Asperger's, that's probably the main thing that was holding him back. And you can see from a lot of his comments that he was very clearly a sociopath. And notice that being a sociopath didn't seem to attract girls to him, did it?
Ding ding ding. This guy was narcissistic? Check. Psychopathic? Check. Machiavellian? Maybe not. He was on spot for 2/3 of the "Dark Triad".

Heartiste always claims serial killers get all the ladies and give ladies vagina tingles. :p How is that working out?

Fact is most men here have no filter to their brain. They just read whatever sh!t they want on the manosphere on Heartiste, even on this website, wherever, and they internalize it as the truth. The internet is a medium where you get information. That doesn't mean that information is true. You have to discern what works, what doesn't. You have to test the truth to see when a person is right, and when he is full of bullsh!t.
 
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