Always the Forbidden Fruit

[Enryu]

okay first off i was only reading page 1
but THIS is the mature forum? Its even worse than the HS forum

second: i dont get it are the hb10 age23 different than the normal hb10s?
Normally you have to be a challenge etc.

anyways invite her over and if she wants to fukk you fukk her if not leave her be whats hard with that´?

 

[STR8UP]

We just want to know if you are going to hit it. EVER.

Can't say with 100% certainty, but I'm fairly sure that I made as much "progress" as I could given the circumstances and if there was a window of opportunity it has not yet been closed. Women only shut the window when they feel "rejected".

 

[STR8UP]

Don't text Str8up! Call her.

Normally I would agree, but due to the circumstances I think a couple of texts insinuating a night of passion might work better than a phone call in this case.

 

[Latinoman]

Well, this particular girl AND her friend have done quite a bit of work for me for FREE, so actually if there's a tab running I'm the one who owes it.

Good. BUT...you are STILL wasting your time. That time you had those folks at your place...could be better served for other purposes.

I said I was gonna ignore this kind of commentary, but for the record, I'm not gonna marry this girl.

And by the look of things...you are not going to phuck her either.

 

[STR8UP]

However, you were on here the past few weeks lamenting about the low quality women that you can't seem to find. Now you are saying it is what it is and you are just going with the flow.

I am here to tell you you CAN change your life patterns and find a better quality woman.

I live in more than one world. I don't have one large group of friends that I spend all of my time with, I have several groups that I hang out with....this particular group I'm not around very often.

And for the record.....when I talk about how it's hard to find decent women, it has a lot more to do with honesty and integrity than it does with drinking too much. Two different things.

 

[cordoncordon]

I live in more than one world. I don't have one large group of friends that I spend all of my time with, I have several groups that I hang out with....this particular group I'm not around very often.

And for the record.....when I talk about how it's hard to find decent women, it has a lot more to do with honesty and integrity than it does with drinking too much. Two different things.

I think though that you'll find those two go hand in hand (that excessive drinking/partying=low low quality). It's not a written rule, but damn close.

 

[Latinoman]

STR8UP...

Try this (and I mean it):

Do NOT host any get together or party or overnight with "friends" at your place. Don't do it for 6 months. Then report back to us about how many women STILL show interest for YOU (not your place, not your lifestyle, but YOU). For the same token, report back and tell us how many men STILL show "friendship" for YOU (not your place, not your lifestyle, but YOU).

I have a good buddy of mine that have LOT of "friends". He also sounds like you (minus "low quality woman" complains) in the sense that every woman "likes" him. But here is the thing, he is always hosting parties, etc. He is indeed a very nice guy. His place is always open to people.

STR8UP...people will take advantage of you if you don't change certain paterns. In fact, people have taken advantage of you. Women have. "Best friends" have. "Friends" have.

I know I tend to be harsh with my advice...but I have too. I truly believe you are a genuinly nice guy. And I like you.

Do the six months thing. ZERO serving as a HOST at your place for ANYONE (other than 100% sure sex). And focus on other things such as visiting the beach or theater or museum or even drive to Georgia or even Atlantic City! Do that and report back to us.

You will be surprised how reallistic your assessment will become on the issue of "she finds me attractive" and the issue of "I have friends" and the issue of "there is not quality women out there".

That's the only advice I can give you. You are 35 and still struggling all over the place. That's not cool and I cannot sit in here and watch that without saying anything.

 

[cordoncordon]

STR8UP...

Try this (and I mean it):

Do NOT host any get together or party or overnight with "friends" at your place. Don't do it for 6 months. Then report back to us about how many women STILL show interest for YOU (not your place, not your lifestyle, but YOU). For the same token, report back and tell us how many men STILL show "friendship" for YOU (not your place, not your lifestyle, but YOU).

I have a good buddy of mine that have LOT of "friends". He also sounds like you (minus "low quality woman" complains) in the sense that every woman "likes" him. But here is the thing, he is always hosting parties, etc. He is indeed a very nice guy. His place is always open to people.

STR8UP...people will take advantage of you if you don't change certain paterns. In fact, people have taken advantage of you. Women have. "Best friends" have. "Friends" have.

I know I tend to be harsh with my advice...but I have too. I truly believe you are a genuinly nice guy. And I like you.

Do the six months thing. ZERO serving as a HOST at your place for ANYONE (other than 100% sure sex). And focus on other things such as visiting the beach or theater or museum or even drive to Georgia or even Atlantic City! Do that and report back to us.

You will be surprised how reallistic your assessment will become on the issue of "she finds me attractive" and the issue of "I have friends" and the issue of "there is not quality women out there".

That's the only advice I can give you. You are 35 and still struggling all over the place. That's not cool and I cannot sit in here and watch that without saying anything.

Could not have said this better.

Latinoman with a homerun!

 

[ducaro]

When you "hit" IT - wear a full body NASA condom!!

Now i don't complement people easily and even if I do I only complement them on their sense of humor. nothing else. Seriously, stop being a pimp on this website and get into stand up comedy! you will make loads of money!

 

[Beffing]

I would like to see a full report after you fuk this chick, it sounds like shes pretty much throwing herself at your D*ck

 

[STR8UP]

I think though that you'll find those two go hand in hand (that excessive drinking/partying=low low quality). It's not a written rule, but damn close.

I'm not saying that this is true, because I don't even hang with this chick much at all, but what if this was a once a year thing?

People just assume things based upon limited info.

Honestly, I know this girl parties, but I think it's more a by-product of young age and her career path. I mean, when people fly you all over the country to take your picture or promote their product, it kind of goes along with the territory.

That said....this is not a girl I would pursue for a relationship for several reasons. I'm not gonna pass up a good time while I'm looking for a girl that I "want", but at the same time I don't feel as if I am wasting time or missing out on opportunities with other women. When a decent woman comes along, she comes along. until then, I PARTY. I don't believe for a second that this hurts my options with other women, if done in moderation.

 

[iqqi]

And iqqi, if you think STR8UP should have gotten a bl0wjob out of it, then maybe you should volunteer yourself to make up for the other woman and give him one yourself.

Don't get me confused with some chick who is rolling around with STR8UP in his bed, like she wants to be SEXED UP then and THERE, lol. I don't see you making the same comments to the men on this thread who share my viewpoint.

The fact you would even say that shows that you can't see the situation for what it is.

This woman is LOOSE and EASY and ASKING FOR IT. She is in a grown (very grown) man's bed, scantily clad I'm sure, drunk... and rolling around? And HE is rolling around with her? ! That is some very retarded sh!t for a man, especially STR8UP's age, to be doing! With a woman! When he isn't getting none ever, it seems!!!

And this is a common situation, for STR8UP, supposedly, to have chicks ready to go at the drop of a dime. But he never gets any sex!!! Not 3rd base, not a home run. He seems to always have 1st and 2nd base loaded... then STRIKE OUT.

And I know a few men who are kind of moral, in the sense that they won't sleep with just anyone. BUT they will let a beggin h0 go down low! I'm just saying.

Don't shoot the messenger. Just because its a girl!

 

[STR8UP]

STR8UP...

Try this (and I mean it):

Do NOT host any get together or party or overnight with "friends" at your place. Don't do it for 6 months. Then report back to us about how many women STILL show interest for YOU (not your place, not your lifestyle, but YOU). For the same token, report back and tell us how many men STILL show "friendship" for YOU (not your place, not your lifestyle, but YOU).

Okay, this is a whole 'nother debate, but lets just say that I have factored this in to my assessments of women.

There is no doubt in my mind that SOME of the women i have met over the past couple of years have been attracted to me at least in PART by my lifestyle and whatnot.

HOWEVER.......

That doesn't account for the VAST majority of them who show interest before they have seen my car, my condo, or have been to a party I hosted.

The first chick I hooked up with after I broke up with my last LTR went GAGA for me the first second she laid eyes on me. Her attraction was likely fueled by her FRIENDS attraction for me. Neither of these girls had seen my "stuff" before they were showing interest. I'm sure her friend talked up (we even had a convo about it, lol) but she didn't know what I was all about when we "clicked".

The first chick I really dated after I broke up with my g/f saw me in a club and grabbed my hat as I walked by. Turns out, I look over and realize that I knew a friend that she was with. This mutual friend knows me through business, so I have "status" in her eyes, but she had never been to my condo, and I hadn't seen her in a long time.

Another chick I went out with a few times recently was friends of friends. Met them out one night and caught her checking me out from across the room. Next thing you know, she's hitting on me. Then I'm at her place fukkiing the hell outa her. Had nothing to do with anything other than attraction.

Last night I went for dinner to a place I frequent. I'm sitting at the bar, and a chick comes up to me and starts talking to me. Turns out I met her a couple of times through a female friend of mine. She's never been to my place, and we have never partied outside of hanging out with our mutual friend. And this chick was ALL UP ON ME. "Give me your number!" "Here's mine, call me sometime!" Completely unsolicited, and she really doesn't know me other than my status conveyed through our mutual friend.

So I know where you are trying to go with this, and it does factor in a LITTLE. But for the most part, it's STATUS that gets my foot in the door.

Status is intangible. It exists only in the minds of the beholder. And when a chick becomes more attracted to you FOR your status, it isn't that she is USING you. It is a 100% natural aphrodisiac. A woman who is attracted to you for this reason is simply responding to her biological urges to mate with a high quality male.

 

[STR8UP]

D This woman is LOOSE and EASY and ASKING FOR IT. She is in a grown (very grown) man's bed, scantily clad I'm sure, drunk... and rolling around? And HE is rolling around with her? ! That is some very retarded sh!t for a man, especially STR8UP's age, to be doing! With a woman! When he isn't getting none ever, it seems!!!

I knew better than to post, I really did, but now that I did it, oh well.....

Like I told you, I live in a LOFT condo. There is no door separating the bedroom from the living room. Part of my "pimp package" on my awesome bed is velour curtains that are attached to the top rails (it is a medieval looking poster bed) to block the light so I can sleep (plus chicks dig 'em cause it makes the bed look like a fairy tale bed, haha).

Anyway, I couldn't have gotten a BJ, I couldn't have gotten LAID. I was lucky to rolled around on the bed and gotten a coupe of kisses in front of the audience.

Comprende?

 

[ketostix]

So I know where you are trying to go with this, and it does factor in a LITTLE. But for the most part, it's STATUS that gets my foot in the door.

Status is intangible. It exists only in the minds of the beholder. And when a chick becomes more attracted to you FOR your status, it isn't that she is USING you. It is a 100% natural aphrodisiac. A woman who is attracted to you for this reason is simply responding to her biological urges to mate with a high quality male.

Exactly. If you meet the threshold of looks requirement, women are attracted to status more than anything. It's what tips things over the edge. Latinoman is suggesting you basically get rid of whatever status you have. That would be sabotaging yourself. It'd be akin to telling a woman to, "Gain as much weight as possible, wear the most unflattering clothes, don't act interested in sex, THEN see if guys are still interested in you."

 

[iqqi]

I knew better than to post, I really did, but now that I did it, oh well.....

Like I told you, I live in a LOFT condo. There is no door separating the bedroom from the living room. Part of my "pimp package" on my awesome bed is velour curtains that are attached to the top rails (it is a medieval looking poster bed) to block the light so I can sleep (plus chicks dig 'em cause it makes the bed look like a fairy tale bed, haha).

Anyway, I couldn't have gotten a BJ, I couldn't have gotten LAID. I was lucky to rolled around on the bed and gotten a coupe of kisses in front of the audience.

Comprende?

No. No comprende.

Because, that is your excuse NOW. What was it when...

Haha....I just moved out of a three story townhouse that had a rooftop deck with a jacuzzi and an ENCLOSED bedroom......might have been a different story if it happened over there and she hadn't had too much to drink.

It is NEVER a different story!

ALL we want is a different story from you, STR8UP.



The truth is, when I first read the OP in this thread, I started with an open mind. When I got to the rolling in the bed part, I almost spit my coffee out! And then the other posters, you could SEE THEM holding their tongue, but not quite able to. It is THAT BAD.

How can you not see this. This isn't a field report. Its a cry for help! How could we not answer it??

 

[iqqi]

Exactly. If you meet the threshold of looks requirement, women are attracted to status more than anything. It's what tips things over the edge. Latinoman is suggesting you basically get rid of whatever status you have. That would be sabotaging yourself. It'd be akin to telling a woman to, "Gain as much wait as possible, where the most flattering clothes, don't act interested in sex, THEN see if guys are still interested in you."

Keto, you and others that share your views that women require status and money to be interested, are begging to be used.

And you will be! Because by having that mindframe, you will actually require it.

But... no. Get rid of the freebies, and see who likes you for YOU. Impossible concept for some of you, I know. Do you even know who YOU are? And what is good about YOU? Attractive and loveable... about YOU? Not your car, or your condo, or your salary, but YOU.

 

[STR8UP]

This isn't a field report. Its a cry for help! How could we not answer it??

Lol...."a cry for help". When I need your help I will be sure to ask for it. until then, my life is improving by the day and I'm happy with the direction it's going, so thanks, but no thanks.

 

[ketostix]

Keto, you and others that share your views that women require status and money to be interested, are begging to be used.

And you will be! Because by having that mindframe, you will actually require it.

But... no. Get rid of the freebies, and see who likes you for YOU. Impossible concept for some of you, I know. Do you even know who YOU are? And what is good about YOU? Attractive and loveable... about YOU? Not your car, or your condo, or your salary, but YOU.

See you're not getting it. That was the whole point, it's not about freebies and getting used. It was about status. Women care about status and that is a big part of the "about YOU" they consider even subconciously and automatically. Other than your appearance women don't really care about you as a man if you don't have status. Without status, women reframe all your positives into negatives, but with status even your negatives are reframed into positives.

 

[STR8UP]

Keto, you and others that share your views that women require status and money to be interested, are begging to be used.

Typical female/low status male "materialism is bad" POV.

Go ahead, deny that status has any kind of influence on you cause you are "above all of that", lol

Some of us know better. We will even admit that status has influence on US.

Like Keto said....pass the minimum looks requirement, then it's a game of "higher value". If my friends are talking me up i already have the advantage. This isn't a NEW phenomenon. It goes back to ancient times, and it isn't going anywhere any time soon.