Abundance is the most important factor

[tksniper]

I'm, if anything, less desirable than I was in my early 20s. Yet I have much higher standards now than I did back then (in terms of how much nonsense I'm willing to tolerate from a woman). In my early 20s, I was willing to be with just about anyone.

Goes to show that even without abundance, a man can develop some standards.

Fat chicks can have standards too (and many do), but that doesn’t create abundance. Raising your personal value is what creates actual abundance.

 

[Sega Genesis]

What do you think is more effective, telling a fat guy to improve his mindset or telling him to hit the gym?

Both. They're congruent with each other.

It's not gonna happen overnight just like hitting the gym won't turn him into a Greek god overnight.

This may sound corny to you but the Universe works simultaneously and functions in conjunction with everything else.

It's not a one or the other or an either/or situation.

 

[tksniper]

Both.

I appreciate your responses. I come from the zen tradition of being mindless. The equation with women is very simple. Increase your value = getting laid. You don’t have to waste a single brain cell. There are millions of people in therapy that never get anywhere.

It’s 10,000 times harder to change a persons mind than to change their bodies or daily habits. And when you change your body and daily habits, the mind changes automatically. It’s called calibration.

You can’t teach calibration or even learn it from someone else. You can only experience it. And the only people who can experience calibration are high value people.

That’s why there are people on this forum for years and still can’t get laid. None of these mental posts work.

I leave you guys with a zen koan- 1 action is worth more than 10,000 useless thoughts.

 

[Sega Genesis]

That’s why there are people on this forum for years and still can’t get laid. None of these mental posts work.

It's because they're not evolved which is their choice. I see it on every forum I'm on.

You can't teach this. It comes from observing people and the world, and having the emotional intelligence to learn from it, learning from your experiences (including mistakes), growing and evolving.

SS and other forums are echo chambers where people hold tightly to their own often rigid beliefs and alternative ideas are not even considered.

I'm speaking generally, this doesn't apply to everyone, obviously.

 

[Clockwerk50]

That’s why there are people on this forum for years and still can’t get laid. None of these mental posts work.

The people who do not get laid, despite wanting to and receiving constant advice from those who do, often suffer from conviction bias. This means they believe in their ideas so strongly that they assume they must be true. Deep down, they may have doubts, which drives them to go the extra mile to convince themselves of their beliefs and to contradict anyone who challenges them. They struggle to stay true to themselves, especially when their ideas seem undeniably true and evoke such strong emotions to defend them.

I usually advise them to examine the facts from an objective perspective, with as much skepticism as they can gather. Their first impulse should always be to find information that disconfirms their strongest beliefs and those of others. That is true science.

Unfortunately, they don’t practice this approach, leaving them stagnant for decades.

 

[tksniper]

It's because they're not evolved which is their choice. I see it on every forum I'm on.

You can't teach this. It comes from observing people and the world, and having the emotional intelligence to learn from it, learning from your experiences, growing and evolving.

SS and other forums are echo chambers where people hold tightly to their own often rigid beliefs and alternative ideas are not even considered.

Yes, emotional intelligence comes from the gut, not the mind! If anything if you find yourself out in the field thinking about mindsets, you’re screwed! lol. Everyone with field experience knows the goal is to be out of your head. And that “gut instinct” can only be developed from personal integrity of having daily habits that improves you as a person.

 

[Sega Genesis]

Yes, emotional intelligence comes from the gut, not the mind!

I will have to think about that one!

It could actually come from both the mind and gut but let me think about it.

 

[Clockwerk50]

I will have to think about that one!

It could actually come from both the mind and gut but let me think about it.

The way for emotional control and to bring out the rational self is through self-awareness, examining emotions, delaying reactions, accepting people's nature, and finding a balance between thinking and feeling. It's not just about "gut”.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

That’s why there are people on this forum for years and still can’t get laid. None of these mental posts work.

Speak for yourself. I'm an attractive dude and women give me a lot of looks...but I will go from being invisible and repulsive to desirable and chased, and it is entirely dependant on my mental state and it's happened so many times it's incredibly self-evident it has nothing to do with my current "roster" of plates or lackthereof.

When my mental state (ie confidence) is shvt, they won't even give me the time of day, but when I'm in a "flow" or whatever you wanna call it they literally jump onto my dvck no joke they literally come over to my house for the 1st meetup and start begging for my dvck after. That's why I know it's paramount to cultivate the right mental state, and all this really comes down to is confidence, at this point this discussion is going nowhere because everyone agrees but somehow keeps disagreeing over semantics of "abundance" but what we're all really talking about is confidence or not.

 

[Divorced w 3]

The Achilles heel to the abundance theory is the psychological condition known as attachment theory.

 

[tksniper]

Speak for yourself. I'm an attractive dude and women give me a lot of looks...but I will go from being invisible and repulsive to desirable and chased, and it is entirely dependant on my mental state and it's happened so many times it's incredibly self-evident it has nothing to do with my current "roster" of plates or lackthereof.

When my mental state (ie confidence) is shvt, they won't even give me the time of day, but when I'm in a "flow" or whatever you wanna call it they literally jump onto my dvck no joke they literally come over to my house for the 1st meetup and start begging for my dvck after. That's why I know it's paramount to cultivate the right mental state, and all this really comes down to is confidence, at this point this discussion is going nowhere because everyone agrees but somehow keeps disagreeing over semantics of "abundance" but what we're all really talking about is confidence or not.

And what do you think determines your mental state? Is it not daily habits that improves your value? So doesn’t that make abundance a process and not a mere mindset that anyone can adopt? Can a lazy person have the same mentality as Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant? These guys take 1000 shots a day. They don’t wake up in the morning thinking about their mindsets. They put in work.

If it was as easy as adopting a mindset, everyone would do it. But it takes hard work. You need to take daily action to be on top of your game.

The daily grind of self improvement is the hardest thing in the world but it pays the biggest dividends. No lazy person can simply adopt an “abundance mentality” and somehow get laid with an abundance of women. It’s a pie in the sky promise.

Everyone wants to be the beast, but not everyone wants to do what the beast does on a daily basis.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

And what do you think determines your mental state? Is it not daily habits that improves your value? So doesn’t that make abundance a process and not a mere mindset that anyone can adopt? Can a lazy person have the same mentality as Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant? These guys take 1000 shots a day. They don’t wake up in the morning thinking about their mindsets. They put in work.

If it was as easy as adopting a mindset, everyone would do it. But it takes hard work. You need to take daily action to be on top of your game.

The daily grind of self improvement is the hardest thing in the world but it pays the biggest dividends. No lazy person can simply adopt an “abundance mentality” and somehow get laid with an abundance of women. It’s a pie in the sky promise.

Everyone wants to be the beast, but not everyone wants to do what the beast does on a daily basis.

Yes but the entire premise of this topic was built off the idea that abundance is simply a result of having options. I'm saying it's not.

I never said mental state has nothing to do with working towards actionable goals and having a purpose/path in life; the phrase "chase excellence, not women" is relevant here. I left that part out because everyone has a different way of achieving it and I kind of assumed people knew that already. I never meant to imply mindset is a simply "hack", as I've stated I think fake it till you make it is cancer, but, there is a degree of self-talk and perspective that goes into having the right mindset too. As I said, there's a lot of moving parts beyond just "having options".

 

[tksniper]

Yes but the entire premise of this topic was built off the idea that abundance is simply a result of having options. I'm saying it's not.

I never said mental state has nothing to do with working towards actionable goals and having a purpose/path in life; the phrase "chase excellence, not women" is relevant here. I left that part out because everyone has a different way of achieving it and I kind of assumed people knew that already. I never meant to imply mindset is a simply "hack", as I've stated I think fake it till you make it is cancer, but, there is a degree of self-talk and perspective that goes into having the right mindset too. As I said, there's a lot of moving parts beyond just "having options".

My argument has always been it starts with you. You have to be the man of your dreams before you can be the man of any woman’s dreams and have options. Perhaps we are all talking about the same things but it appears we are all talking in circles. lol.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

it appears we are all talking in circles. lol.

We are and I blame Amsterdam Assassin for it

 

[tksniper]

We are and I blame Amsterdam Assassin for it

While it may be tempting to blame others and criticize, I would advise taking the high road. At the end of the day, your character is your pot of gold. You don’t want to give away your gold to anyone.

Just think about it. If you react to posters in an online forum full of incells and keyboard jockeys, how can you be unreactive to Life?

Life is going to hit you 10 times harder. My humble advice is just to laugh and smile confidently when someone in this forum attacks you. It’s a habit one must cultivate - don’t take anything personally. And it will lead to a more high value character, which eventually leads to abundance.

We live in a world of the “crab” mentality where people will try to bring you down out of hate. By reacting to them, you get in the way of your own mentality, mindset, and abundance. In other words, you lower your own frequency and vibration. You always want to vibrate on the frequency of abundance of not giving a fvck.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

While it may be tempting to blame others and criticize, I would advise taking the high road. At the end of the day, your character is your pot of gold. You don’t want to give away your gold to anyone.

Just think about it. If you react to posters in an online forum full of incells and keyboard jockeys, how can you be unreactive to Life?

Life is going to hit you 10 times harder. My humble advice is just to laugh and smile confidently when someone in this forum attacks you. It’s a habit one must cultivate - don’t take anything personally. And it will lead to a more high value character, which eventually leads to abundance.

We live in a world of the “crab” mentality where people will try to bring you down out of hate. By reacting to them, you get in the way of your own mentality, mindset, and abundance. In other words, you lower your own frequency and vibration. You always want to vibrate on the frequency of abundance and not giving a fvck.

I was joking lol. I have respect for him as a poster, one of the few posters on this board that I really like. I don't think his comments were directed at me anyway but there are a couple posters who I've blocked after repeated toxicity.

Relevant quote:

"What does it matter what others think of you? Let them see you as they will; it is what you know to be true that matters. Their opinions do not add or take away from the man you are. The cause of their judgments is their own misery, not any defect in you." - Seneca

 

[tksniper]

I was joking lol. I have respect for him as a poster, one of the few posters on this board that I really like.

All good bro. I can tell you have a good head on your shoulders. We’re all here to inspire and uplift each other. Sometimes we get into semantics but I think the universal principles are always the same.

 

[PlatoPacks23]

All good bro. I can tell you have a good head on your shoulders. We’re all here to inspire and uplift each other. Sometimes we get into semantics but I think the universal principles are always the same.

I would not say in anyway this board is about "inspiring and uplifting" from my viewpoint haha

 

[tksniper]

I would not say in anyway this board is about "inspiring and uplifting" from my viewpoint haha

Most guys are sexually frustrated these days. But that’s not a problem. How easy or hard it is to get laid fluctuates. The problem is the amount of male “victims”. The victim mentality is the real disease.

Women were programmed to be susceptible to domination. And men have succumbed to being a victim? lol. It makes no sense.

Case in point- men used to pillage and plunder and take everything after a war victory.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Most guys are sexually frustrated these days. But that’s not a problem. How easy or hard it is to get laid fluctuates. The problem is the amount of male “victims”. The victim mentality is the real disease.

Women were programmed to be susceptible to domination. And men have succumbed to being a victim? lol. It makes no sense.

Case in point- men used to pillage and plunder and take everything after a war victory.

Men are programmed to be inspired by women in order to be maximally productive. When that is removed, so is 1st world society before too long.

The current intergender situation is the real disease. The "victim mentality" is a mere symptom.