:-) said:
No they don't. That's not what's being said at all. Do you actually read their posts? They don't set boundaries so a woman 'will comply'. They set boundaries so that the man and woman are both sure about what is and what isn't acceptable in a relationship so that should either of them overstep the mark no-one can claim ignorance or that they didn't know what the terms and conditions were. No wonder this thread is 13 pages long.
Hilarious!
You don't even know what the hell you're reading in these threads.
You and the crew don't even understand what points you're making.
You avoid common sense and argue nonsense making these threads double digit pages.
What the do you think "complying" is?
They set the boundary informing her they don't accept her hanging out with other men.
They claim they will dump her if she doesn't "comply" to all their rules.
They all believe that no woman understands what an exclusive relationship is.
Therefore they need to inform her what it means.
They also believe in "teaching" and "training" women to behave how they see fit.
That is "complying to their will"
You are an idiot.
And the point I've been making for over 12 threads that these boundary guys don't understand or don't want to admit is it doesn't matter what she can claim or if you're on the same page cause she won't care when she breaks your boundary.
When she hangs out with another guy she will find any excuse as the reason why she did it. Informing her beforehand makes no difference to her actions of what she really wants to do later on.
Of course you're going to be on the same page when the relationship starts. Months later you might not be. She isn't going to inform you she is banging another guy before she does. LOL
Women can easily lie to you to make it seem you are on "the same page". She can "agree" to anything you want and still keep guys hidden if they really want to.
That's why boundaries are useless cause they can easily be broken or not taken seriously with just "verbal words".
But these boundary guys keep making crap excuses or reposting their same old fallacies that have been proven to be false many times.
jurry said:
You're asking the same question worded slightly differently.
A woman knows a mans intentions, if she feels that it is a romantic setting/the guy is trying to fvck her, she wont go. If it is purely platonic (old family friend in town for instance), she will be ok with it and maybe still not even then. SHE is making the call, based off of her interest in you (or lack of it), in every instance. If you dont trust her and feel that you need to explain to her what is ok and what isnt, then you should not be with her. How many times do I have to repeat this?
She shouldn't be involved with those types of men.
If she is losing interest in the guy she will hang out with those guys on a romantic setting boundary or not.
That's why boundaries are useless cause she will not follow it when she doesn't want to.
Danger said:
So then I am correct in saying you think it is ok for her to go for drinks with a male friend.
Many of us here do not believe that is ok, regardless of what she believes his intentions are. Therefore how is she to know what is and is not ok?
Here's what the boundary crew does not understand with their delusion. They repeat this same $hit over and over.
We know you guys are not ok with her going out for drinks with another guy.
Smart respectful intelligent women will know that it's not ok to do that.
You guys try to date idiots who don't understand that concept.
You guys have to define terms for her to "get it".
It doesn't matter if she knows it is ok or not.
When she really wants to go out for drinks with another guy she is going to go whether she knows if it is ok or not.
She isn't going to care if you don't feel it's ok for her to do that.
She is going to act on her emotions and do what she wants enjoying drinks with another man.
She can easily hide her drinks with the guy from you very easily and you won't be the wiser.
So you inform her it's not ok for her to do that. She won't care what you think or said to her when she wants to have drinks with another guy. She will do it anyway no matter how you feel about it. She will hide it from you if she wants to and you won't be the wiser. Your boundaries are useless when she does what she wants to do on her own.
All you boundary guys had women break your boundaries very easily without caring what you feel is ok or not and you act like this is all brand new stuff to you and can never happen with your boundaries.
Crazy!
jurry said:
You've already admitted that the purpose of your boundary discussion is not to prevent her from seeing other men, so why are you now acting as if it would?
To what lengths will you go to danger to defend this tragically flawed position? I suspect you see the weakness in it but are too proud to admit it, whereas the others sadly dont see it at all.
Cause their argument is crap and it changes by the day and the by post so they can "win their argument" on their proven failed concept of boundaries.
Danger always changes the reason for what boundaries are really for.
Everything they claim has been proven wrong but they still manage to argue for it cause they can't admit they are wrong and have no power over their woman.
When they all have been cheated on before with boundaries you would think they would realize their boundaries are crap and don't work.
zekko said:
You anti-boundary folk say we need to TRUST the girl to behave appropriately.
Nobody has ever said that. You argue points that nobody has ever said. That's why you guys are so dumb.
You screen the girl properly first to see if she is worthy to be exclusive with.
After you see her through her own actions showing you she is then you become exclusive with her.
Relationships are based on trust and she has shown you through her actions that she can be trusted.
You are trusting her to follow your boundaries after she only "verbally agreed"
to them. She wasn't showing you through her own actions that she is worthy of a relationship. It's all about "your terms" and you expect women to follow them even though she might not and be good LTR material. That's why you boundary guys have failed marriages and relationships.
zekko said:
But at the same time you say that boundaries are useless, because she will just BREAK them. Well, if a girl is trustworthy, why would she break a boundary?
Again you are making points that was never said.
You have just made my whole point on why boundaries are useless. Congratulations!
If she is trustworthy and she has shown you through her actions that she is then there is no reason to set a boundary.
There is no need to set one at all. That is why I never set one myself cause my woman has shown me through her actons that she is. Your women haven't.
I've said when a woman loses interest she will break the boundary. Just the same as having no boundary at all.
It's about interest and attraction. Not boundaries.
When she is into you she won't break it. When she isn't she will. The same thing will happen even if you didn't set a boundary. she will still cheat when the attraction and interest isn't there. Your boundary is an imaginary security blanket to give you phony assurance.
When she wants to break it she will with no problem. Your boundary is a security blanket to calm your fears of her cheating. It does nothing to prevent her from cheating or give you any higher value is a man. It is for your own benefit to give you a false sense of reality to feel secure about her and yourself.
Obviously you have a hard time reading and comprehending words cause I've said this from the get go.
zekko said:
Can she be trusted or not? When I screen a girl, I am screening her for her level of trustworthiness. I am screening her to see if she can be trusted to keep the boundary when she says she will.
That's why your boundary is useless and does more harm than good.
She isn't going to break your boundary right in front of you unless she is totally stupid.
She will break the boundary when you're not around and won't be the wiser.
And don't tell me that women have never ever done that before or will never do that cause I know women who did and you guys have failed marriages/relationships with women who did as well.
zekko said:
Now it is true that when a woman loses her interest, then you can't trust her any more, but that is a separate issue. It just means the relationship has run its course. If she loses her interest, you're not going to be able to TRUST her to not go fvck some guy either. At that point, it's over, boundary or no boundary.
She can easily have hung out with other men or fvcked them before you see any lost interest with you boundary.
Just as if you never set one at all.
Your boundary did nothing for you except give you a false sense of reallity the whole time cause she broke your boundary with ease when you least expected it and thought she couldn't.
Boundaries don't stop cheating or prevent women from hiding men from you.
Boundaries don't give you any power.
Women have free will to do what they want and they won't care about your boundary when they want to break it.
Your women in your current relationships probably all had drinks with other guys without you knowing (even though you don't approve) just like you've all been cheated on in the past with boundaries.
What did boundaries do for you guys that was any different without having one?
Nothing!