2nd annual approach anxiety competition

[Gray The Prince]

i've been slacking...

last saturday I went to the mall and finished my greetings on HBs...not a great excuse but the next day I got into a fistfight with one of my friends because he was being a belligerent douche (we were both drunk) and I've been kind of preoccupied with classes starting...although I realize this is the perfect opportunity to Dj so I'll try and do this week's challenge over the next few days.

also I was wondering, I brought back this girl from a party before winter break and we banged...she texted me on tuesday when i had gotten back and I said we should meet up sometime this week but I haven't texted her yet. maybe this is a stupid question but what should I do with her? should I bring her to lunch or something or just try and invite her to a party?

You might as well try some other stuff with her that you've been wanting to do. (i,e, different sex positions, etc.) Go ahead and invite her to a party or something and see what happens.

 

[Gray The Prince]

Went out sarging last night. For all intensive purposes I completed this leg of the challenge as far as approaching goes but I am only going to count 3 of the approaches last night because I was drunk, they were bad approaches, and I don't really even remember everything.

Set 1:

I ran in to a movie producer with my wing on the way to the bar who was unfamiliar with the town and asked us to escort him to a good bar he could drink at without being overwhelmed. We were heading to such a place and brought him and his girl with us. There was a 2 set at the bar intermixed with a bunch of bros and fat girls. My wing opened the girl on the right, I opened the girl on the left.

I asked the girl how she was doing and what she was doing out. She had on a small little dress so I assumed she was looking to be noticed (and it wasn't my intention to validate her, that was just an observation). After about 1-2 minutes of fluff, I kino'd both girls on the shoulders and asked them how they knew each other. I did a small cold read and said something like they had to be best friends

"Oh my gosh, how did you know?!?!?"

They worked in the same store or something together. They talked about how much of BFF's they are for a little while and I interjected and said

"If you 2 are so close, you have to have some absolutely crazy story... what's the wildest sh*t you've ever gotten in to together".

And they liked that question and started talking amongst themselves and decided they'd tell me their story if I told them one of mine. My wing jumped in and started talking about how I have a lot of absolutely ridiculous stories saying:

"Rubato, tell the story about X... no wait, how about Y... NO, you have a better one than that... (pause)... remember the witch?"

He was going off the cuff with this and some of the sh*t he was alluding to never happened. But the witch story was true. Basically there was a girl on the dance team who was infatuated with me and invited me over to her place to hookup. When I got there, I found out she was a legit witch with pentagrams, spell books, a motor and pistil, and all the herbs you could want. She offered to cast a spell for me and I left.

They got a kick out of the story and while they were laughing, I ejected and played a game of pool with my wing and proceeded to start getting wasted. I never game drunk and the rest of the story will tell why. My game is awful when I'm drunk.


You seemed pretty good so far, I think you should've kept going and see where it went.

After the game of pool, that I would have one if I hadn't of bumped the 8 ball in early, I went back to the blonde, gave a false time constraint, asked for her story and it was so lame I don't even remember what it was. Something about her girlfriend proposing to her boyfriend outside of the bar. I busted on her for having a bad story, talked for about another minute and went for the number. She said she didn't give out her # to guys, I said something like "A lot of dudes would keep after you for you're number wouldn't they (I stopped for a moment, brought my face very close to hers and made really strong eye contact for a minute).... well have fun with those dudes tonight" and I immediately turned and walked away.

lol
Set 2:

We went over to the club and I had had several drinks by this point and was drunk. My wing opened a set and I was with him but couldn't think of anything to say. I can't think very well drunk. I think the only thing I said in this set was ripping on one of the girls for bragging about how she had her corset pierced. She said something like "isn't that just the cutest thing?" And.... I told her what I thought.

I am not counting this set, obviously.

Eh, its whatever.

Set 3:

There was a 2 set, my wing opened the right girl, I opened the left girl. I found out she goes to the country line dancing bar I go to, but on a different night. I'm amazing I held down a conversation with this girl for as long as I did because I had nothing to say. I don't remember a lot of what we talked about. We ejected after about 6 minutes on a good note.

Just the fact that you were able to go on for 6 minutes with nothing to really say is a feat within itself.
Set 4-6 or 7

I don't really remember any of these and if I participated on them, it was very minimal.

If I can't remember it, it doesn't count.

I agree.
Set 8:

There was a lone wolf sitting by herself and my wing was telling me all I had to do to open was find something observational to say, but seriously, I couldn't engage my mind. So I walked over, sat down and asked her what she was doing over by herself. I couldn't keep the conversation going for more than maybe 90 seconds and ejected. Like I said, I had nothing to say.

This was too short to count.

Set 9:

On my way back, I saw this girl who was dressed like trash but somewhat pretty wearing a pink hoody that says "I love pink" on it. I walked up to her and said "So, I see you like pink". She gave me a very annoyed look and turned away from me.

I think they girl actually has to talk to you in order for it to count.

Again, I agree.
Set 10:

Last set of the night before I decided I was a lost cause as a drunk. There was a 4 set or so and I opened asking what they were all doing out. I don't remember what they were doing. I asked maybe 2 more questions and I don't think they were even listening to me by the last question.


This was like my worst sarge attempt ever. Prior to this I have only ever had 2 other girls tell me they wouldn't give me their digits. Now it's up to 3. And I know I'm not the best conversationalist with cold approaching, but it was awful. I think I just came across drunk, creepy, dazed, and, and possibly confused. Any and all of those would be accurate.

That leaves me with 3 more cold approach 5 minute convos to do and 2 more # attempts.
I like how you're critical of yourself and that you keep getting better and better as each day passes. You did pretty well for someone that was pretty drunk. Keep working hard and you're gonna get pretty far, I promise.

responses are in teal

 

[Gray The Prince]

Me: Hey, I'm george (giving my hand for a handsake)
Her: I'm ....
Me: I will tell you about 2 movies, you'll get to pick the one and we'll go watch it together, ok?
Her: Ok, tell me!
Me: Ok, I have no idea, I just tried to find a way to ask you out! We can watch a movie or something anyway!
Her: haha, ok we could I guess!
Me: Would you type your phone number here?
Her: typing...
Me: Have a good rest of the day!
Her: you too!

Hmm, original and fast-paced. Let us know how this goes.

That's was the first one!
Tried the same after a while but failed!

Me: hey, I'm George!
Her: Hey,
Me: I have two movies bla bla bla
Her: I'm afraid I can't!
Me: It's ok, have a nice day!
Her: You too George!

Win some, lose some. Keep coming up with original openers, and make sure you stay personal with it!

responses in teal

 

[Gray The Prince]

I was out yesterday at a party, some conversation with the ladies here and there. A girl just stopped me and told me a friend of mine was saying that I would take her shopping. Couple minutes later I ask her to type her phone number. She agrees.

I doubt something will happen but it was pretty easy.

A number close is a number close, let us know what will happen.

 

[Gray The Prince]

Talking about babysteps... For me, this ain't gonna work. I mean; going from saying hi to seven strangers to talking for five minutes to seven hot girls? I mean; thats kinda the same as going from riding a bike to flying a plane. The challenge itself seems so hard that I was discouraged before I even started trying...

The only way, you could fail this challenge is simply by not trying. But don't worry, this next challenge will be a lot easier

 

[Gray The Prince]

Are hired guns excluded from this? If not, I talked to 2 bartenders at Buffalo Wild Wings this afternoon for about a half hour. This was not an outcome oriented conversation, just talking while I was killing time waiting for a date. If it does count, 1 more approach, 2 more #'s.

Well not really, I mean you could still number close and go on dates with them if it works out enough.

 

[Gray The Prince]

I had 2 great nights, I decided that I ought do the first part of the challenge talking to women that I’m attracted to, I feel that the more I talk to hot girls the more comfortable I feel and the conversations come a lot easier, more natural.
The plan was to do a pub crawl around the uni area. Loads of the pubs do a happy hour and other promotions on Thursdays so they tend to rammed with lots of different sets. I was out with a friend who is a natural, we winged for each other and that worked out really well for me. He finished with 6 number closes and 2 kiss closes. I didn’t do so well, only 2 number closes. On the other hand it was good practice for me and things improved on Friday. 1 number close 2 kiss closes (one of these I already knew)
Over the two days I approached a lot of women probably 20+. Some of these were super hot and I shyit my pants big time BUT I STILL DID IT.

And that's all we were looking for in this challenge. You don't HAVE to get a number, just ATTEMPT. Excellent job.

Thursday
1st pub, 2 set hb6 and hb7 noticed hb6 looking in our direction a couple of times
Made eye contact with hb6 and smiled, she smiled back
Me: You’re hot, you should talk to me. Are you friendly? (big smile + eye contact)
HB6: LOL, cheeky (touches my arm)
HB6: Where are you from?
Me: If you guess in 3 I’ll let you buy me a drink
HB6: Laughs, aren’t you supposed to buy the drinks
Me: If you’re good I’ll buy the second and the third (smile)
HB6: Laughs. No way
At this point I turned to the side and start talking to my friend
HB6: So you gonna tell me or what
I smile at her and carry on talking to my friend. She punches me playfully in the arm and says something that I didn’t get. I accuse her of assault and she comes up to me starts apologizing and asks me what I wanted to drink. Once we got the drinks, the 4 of us sit down and talk about plans for the night and other bs, I keep my promise and buy the second round. I asked her to help me with the drinks and while waiting I asked for her number, she gave it with a smile. My friend number closed her friend

****y, funny, confident. I liked it. This could go somewhere. Just sharpen this approach and this will work well for you.

2nd bar, this bar was packed with loud music so hard to talk but it was awesome practice for body language to do the talking. I stood up proud and every time i made eye contact with HBs I smiled every time where it was appropriate.

You can never have enough practice with eye contact.


3 set HBs 7+
This one **** me up, all the girls were hot and I just saw them shoot a guy down like no one’s business, both my friend and I watched this and started egging each other on to have a go. I tried to focus on the least good looking one. She was a bit chubby but very pretty non the less. I walk toward them and sort of bumped into her a little.
Me: You don’t have to throw yourself at me you could have just said hi (smiling all the time)
Her: Shocked, that was all you, you did it on purpose haha you just wanted to get your hands on me.
Her friend jumps in at this point and say sorry mate you’re not her type, then she tried to move her away from me. My friend took this opportunity to talk to the third girl in the group. We talked for a bit but nothing came of it. I have to admit I was a little thrown by the **** blocking friend and never recovered. Any suggestions for dealing with huge b itch shields are welcome.

A wingman is usually the best medicine for a ****blocking b*tch. Usually they do that when there's more girls than guys and/or they wanted you to talk to them first. It's somewhat complicated, but next time, try including both girls into your approach and usually you will get past it or approach an even set. Lol, there's many ways to go about this.

Same bar (smoking area) 2set hb7 hb7.5
I opened this one by just asking for a lighter. hb7 was really smiley and chatty, I asked if her friend ever smiled, she seemed hurt by this, so I told them a funny story from my childhood and both of them laughed.
Me: I knew I’d get you to smile, you almost look half way cute when you smile (eye contact +small smile)
Her: laughing…so where you guys been tonight
Me: blabla
At this point my friend starts gaming hb7 and isolates her. This should be good news for me but my brain just didn’t engage. I tried to tease and kino but got no response I ejected soon afterwards. My friend got the other one’s number.

Good save with the childhood story. SOmetimes, you get a little off when your brain doesn't engage. It happens, but you'll be alright.

3rd bar mixed 3 set Hb8 HB7 and a guy
While standing at the bar I noticed the hb7 looking at me, I smile, she smiles, I didn’t approach, I was kind of scared, I didn’t want start gaming her in front of the guy. For whatever reason I didn’t feel comfortable doing it. Later on I got into a conversation with the guy in the smoking area and hb7 ended up opening me. Long story short, this one liked me and we talked for a while, the covo was relaxed, when my friend came to get me I asked for her number and got it, this one was easy.

Whenever you see a guy in a group of hbs, he's often just a ljbf'ed Beta, a gay friend and even sometimes a bf. Nonetheless, don't be discouraged by it, just keep surging ahead.

4th bar, 2set both hb8 blond and brunette
We first met these 2 in the street on our way to a cash point, my friend tried to open them and other than I a smile from the blond one this was a fail. When I saw them at the bar I opened the blond one
Me: Hey quit following me around its getting creepy! (smiling with good eye contact)
Her: Laughs and walks over to her friend.
While I was getting served I noticed her checking me out but my friend wanted me to wing for him. In the smoking area I see her again.
Me: woman you’re freaking me out, quit this obsession
Her: LOL, I’m hb8
Me: roman, so what you been up to tonight other than stalking me
Her: lol, bla bla
At this point her friend comes back and we talk some fluff and I lose it, they start to talk amongst themselves and I eject.

You started off pretty well, but you'll get the hang of it.

responses in teal

 

[Gray The Prince]

Friday
Went out with the same friend, we decided to keep it local and only went to 2 bars. I noticed some of the things my friend did when he talked to women.
1. He never stands directly in front of them always to the side at an angle
2. When he teases it’s always sexual and light
3. He never repeats the same tease on different girls
4. He smiles but it’s very selective
5. He comes across very relaxed and laid back

Your friend has his style down to a tee.

1st bar 4set all hb7+
I knew one of the girls form work so I went over and said hi, me and my friend got introduced and we talked a little, this was a bit of a standard conversation to begin with. All the girls were dressed for a night on the town so I assumed they were not staying for long. So I focused on the girl I already knew, asked her about work and how she was and blab la bla. She tells she’s not feeling all that great as she recently broke up with her boyfriend and how she needs a night out with the girls. At this point I gave her a hug took her hand and asked to come out for a cigarette. In the smoking area I hugged her again, told her she smelled nice and that she looked hot and she’ll get another guy no problems and then she kissed me. We went back inside holding hands and smiling, before she left she said she wanted to meet up next week.

Keep us posted on how that goes!!

Same bar 2 set hb8 blonde hb7/8 brunette
I noticed the blond and her friend standing at the bar while me and my mate were with the 4 set.
Made eye contact first smiled and opened with a Mystery line
Me: Your hair is nice, is it real? (big smile)
Her: (smiles then pretends to be hurt) Course it’s real, my friend did for me (points to hb7/8)
My wing: be careful man she looks dangerous you’ll get whipped
Her friend: shocked, what you on about
My wing: It’s the leather trousers! (he just said it and smiled)
HBs both laugh
After some fluff talk we end up buying them drinks and playing pool, talking about standard stuff, the blond seemed into me, leaning in when talking to me, smiling and making lots of eye contact, asking loads of questions, so when she asked me what I did for a living, told her I was disposable lighter repair man, I don’t think she got it, when I told her that my wing was a copper the convo turned sexual, I asked her how many whips she had and how my mate can led us his hand cuffs. We left for another bar, by this time we were well on our way to getting drunk, me and the blond went for a dance, afterwards we talked bs but there was lots of kino and good eye contact, I asked for her number she gave me it and I kissed her. I arranged to meet her next week.

Let us know how that goes as well! You have been making serious progress these last few weeks!

responses in teal

 

[Gray The Prince]

the sick thing this. i am going to Manchester to meet up a friend this weekend. got a hotel for 3 days. going to be OFF THE WALL SICK!

going to talk to as many girls as i can! then hopeful find some drunk ones who want the **** then it's off to the hotel room.

what i have learnt, is the disconnect between, talking to a girl just cos, and talking because you want something.

i felt pretty good today, went out for a bit. ( wasn't out to talk to girls mind) so as i was on the way back home. it struck me pretty hard, that every time i would talk to a girl. i would get that feeling inside. you know the one i am talking about. though when i was thinking about this weekend and talking to girls, i didn't get that feeling. ( most all other times i do, even when thinking about it) I stopped myself. At this point i really did feel freedom from outcome. It felt like a nothing, like it was normal. when i realized what i had done. That bad feeling came back, though this time it was a Little week.

there is freedom from outcome there, though i have not tested it infield yet. this is for this weekend.

Let us know how that goes.

 

[AAAgent]

was out of town for 2 week but i'm glad this picked up. I will try to join in on the next objective.

 

[TheMusic]

I tried a few times, but It all didn't work out. The girls just laughed, had a small conversations with 2 girls who were at work but only 2 minutes.
And about the challenges;
Last time it was like:
- Approach 1 girl, if you don't get the number approach another one.
- Approach 2 girls, talk for 2 minutes
This time it's like:
- Say hi to seven people
- Talk for 5 minutes with 7 hot girls

Hope you all understand what I'm talking about. For new people the gap is way too big.

 

[roman81]

I tried a few times, but It all didn't work out. The girls just laughed, had a small conversations with 2 girls who were at work but only 2 minutes.
And about the challenges;
Last time it was like:
- Approach 1 girl, if you don't get the number approach another one.
- Approach 2 girls, talk for 2 minutes
This time it's like:
- Say hi to seven people
- Talk for 5 minutes with 7 hot girls

Hope you all understand what I'm talking about. For new people the gap is way too big.

First of all bro, don't consider this as an attack on you.
The challenges are set so that we are forced to get over our AA, in reality it will take more than 5 minutes of conversation to seduce any girl hot or ugly. Having said this if you don't force yourself to approach and hold a conversation, you will be masturbating for the rest your life wishing and dreaming for girl. Without trying, you will never get better, without getting better you will never get the girl. The truth is we are all scared to approach but we all want to get laid.
So what do you think you are doing wrong when you approach, what kind of openers do you use, do you make good eye contact, do you smile when you look them in the eye, are you well groomed, what's your body language like???? Post your answers on here and you will get bags of advice.

 

[roman81]

GTP, thanks for your comments bro, i wonder if you could elaborate more on some of the things you said by giving examples from your own field experience.

1. "****y, funny, confident. I liked it. This could go somewhere. Just sharpen this approach and this will work well for you."

What exactly needs work?

2. "You started off pretty well, but you'll get the hang of it."

How would you have handled both girls, would you game both of them and how do you make your interest clear to one girl, also how do you adjust so your frame is not affected by the arrival of other hbs, what can i do in order to keep the attention on myself?

Thanks

 

[TheMusic]

First of all bro, don't consider this as an attack on you.
The challenges are set so that we are forced to get over our AA, in reality it will take more than 5 minutes of conversation to seduce any girl hot or ugly. Having said this if you don't force yourself to approach and hold a conversation, you will be masturbating for the rest your life wishing and dreaming for girl. Without trying, you will never get better, without getting better you will never get the girl. The truth is we are all scared to approach but we all want to get laid.
So what do you think you are doing wrong when you approach, what kind of openers do you use, do you make good eye contact, do you smile when you look them in the eye, are you well groomed, what's your body language like???? Post your answers on here and you will get bags of advice.

I don't really have openers. I do make eye contact, i do smile, i am well groomed, but the conversationstuff is really hard for me.

 

[roman81]

I don't really have openers. I do make eye contact, i do smile, i am well groomed, but the conversationstuff is really hard for me.

Ok, i'll send you some stuff to read. Also check this out, on here the guy has posted recordings of his approaches i strongly recommend you listen to the audio. This will help you.

 

[Gray The Prince]

I'm fairly dissapointed at the lack of posts from this past week. Everybody who posted something, does not get a strike. It really wasn't that hard of a challenge, but I understand the moderate difficulty that can be seen. So, this week's challenge will be a lot easier.

zero strikes:
Donjuanit0
TheMusic
Roman81
Badboyjmm
Rubato
YoungRocketship



On the hot seat with one strike:
AAAgent
Packers2010
Sidd10001110101
Archway
3countriesplan
Martini92
Whitebelt


ELIMINATED:
Black Jesus
Btownbuck2012 (You were actually eliminated when you disrespected Robyn and belittled a challenge you couldn't even complete. But I gave you a chance anyway. Smh)
Iwanttofight
I'm in the mood
dandelion
TheConductor
Sandman
Sofomore


All right, 8 men eliminated, 13 are still standing. Here is your challenge for this week:

Challenge #3

Approach at least 5 HBs ranging anywhere from 7+ in the looks department and try to strike a conversation. You do not have to go for a number close or anything if you don't want to. This is aimed to see where you are at regarding openers and thinking with your head. If you need some opening suggestions, please don't hesitate to ask.

This is a much easier challenge than last week, remember it can even be about classwork if you want. I really expect to see results from everybody that's still in the competition.

 

[Gray The Prince]

was out of town for 2 week but i'm glad this picked up. I will try to join in on the next objective.

I understand bro, but I still have to give you a strike anyway. I expect a strong performance from you this week.

 

[Gray The Prince]

GTP, thanks for your comments bro, i wonder if you could elaborate more on some of the things you said by giving examples from your own field experience.

1. "****y, funny, confident. I liked it. This could go somewhere. Just sharpen this approach and this will work well for you."

What exactly needs work?

2. "You started off pretty well, but you'll get the hang of it."

How would you have handled both girls, would you game both of them and how do you make your interest clear to one girl, also how do you adjust so your frame is not affected by the arrival of other hbs, what can i do in order to keep the attention on myself?

Thanks

I'll PM you in a bit.

 

[Masculinity]

Challenge #3

Approach at least 3 HBs ranging anywhere from 5+ in the looks department and try to strike a conversation.

Make that 5 hb7's and up.

You do not have to go for a number close or anything if you don't want to. This is aimed to see where you are at regarding openers and thinking with your head. If you need some opening suggestions, please don't hesitate to ask.

But you must maintain the principles in the first two challenges (good eye contact, body language, etc). You also must talk to her for at least three minutes.

This is a much easier challenge than last week, remember it can even be about classwork if you want. I really expect to see results from everybody that's still in the competition.

We are going to reward those who completed the last challenge with bonus points. Some of you excelled in the challenge, so you will get one point each.

A few of you n the competition have been PMing me, and some of you NOT in the competition have been completing the challenges on your own. Keep up the good work; approaching is a skill. Once you lose your initial fear, you will start approaching more smoothly & you will do "ticks" as you advance forward.

Possible rewards from approaching:

-Exposing yourself to hb's and losing that irrational fear inside.
-Talking to hb's as other people and not goddesses
-Eliminating "failure" from your mind. What is failure? Ohh...yeah, it's that thing that happens when you don't approach an hb
-A new plate/friend with benefits/F' buddy/lover/girlfriend.
-Realizing you are a desirable male
- & many, many more.

Possible punishments from approaching:

-Being rejected by a woman who wold have been a headache
-I can't think of any other ones

I know I have been out for a few days now. I have my parents visiting me and I have to apply for scholarships and stuff. I will get back to those who PM'd me and give feedback to those who posted their conversations. I am starting to see a few of you who will be standing in the end. It could go anywhere when challenges get harder, though. We shall see. On another note, I got straight A's for my Fall, 2011 grades. That news along with female action and attention have pretty much made my winter break. I am now waiting to hear back from universities and hope I get accepted into a reputable one :wave:

 

[Archway]

Was gonna post earlier but was lazy, coming home after work

anyway so I ****ed up

Did virtually no approaching last week, was far too lazy and didnt make the effort to get out there. Since I'm working during the week and set on making all my approaches during the day, or in other words without the influence of alcohol, my timings are abit more limited. However I planned to go out at the weekend to approach, Saturday I stayed in, and only went out on Sunday when I all I managed was a few hello's and brief conversations ("where is this place X") etc, before heading off to meet others.
I managed one good approach on the underground where the situation gifted itself to me, two women (HB8 and HB6) were talking amongst themselves, and I just sort of threw myself in the conversation

The conversation prob went on for about 8 or so minutes as we talked on the train and ended up getting off at the same station, and continued to street level. I never attempted to number close.


I need to start approaching randomly during the day, whenever the situation is right.
Problem I've been having is I think the only time to do this sort of thing is when you have a set amount of time so you can go for one after the other, ie set aside sat morning or something, as if youre trying in the day time and you get rejected, and you have to get back to work, you can end up pondering on it, rather than just moving on to the next one.

But anyway I seek to complete last weeks task and this weeks, which I suppose will sort of just roll together as one hopefully.