Gray The Prince
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Packers2010 said:
No, you don't have to get the number. All you have to do is attempt to number close and no Facebook does not count.
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No, you don't have to get the number. All you have to do is attempt to number close and no Facebook does not count.
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2 down today during lab with 1 number close. Looking back on it, I should have closed the other girl, but I didn't want to close both in front of each other. One girl was on my right, the other on my life.
What happened with left girl:
She opened me, actually and asked me some bogus question I knew she already knew the answer to because she had it written down. She was either bored or wanted to open me.
We made banter back and forth for a few minutes and I found out that today is her 21st birthday. I said something like
Me: "Well what kind of crazy plans do you have after class?"
Her: She laughed and didn't really answer the question
Me: "Oh come on, someone like you has to have something crazy going on"
Her: "What's that supposed to mean?" (not angrily, with the same laughing sort of tone)
Me: "Well, you just don't want people to see the big partier you're hiding underneath there (and I kino'd her upper back)... but don't worry, your secret's safe with me."
She laughed again and told me she went out last night, "it was crazy", and was going to her fav restaurant after class. She was going to do the real celebrating on Friday.
I don't know how I could have managed this, because while this was going on, I was pinging over to the girl on my right and bantering back and forth with her. I was also helping the girl on my left with the chemistry assignment... we had to design a procedure to figure out 2 unknown chromophore concentrations in an unknown solution using the Beer-Lambert Law and a spectrophotometer. Yawn.
Left girl was totally lost. Had right girl not been there, I would have qualified my suggestions to her with something like "you know you're really going to owe me when this is over... how do you think you're going to make it up to me?" Instead I just minimally helped her and only gave her a few hints. I figured I was more likely to get one successfully than both successfully, so I largely ignored this girl. But I did spend at least 5 of the 2+ hours of lab talking to her. She actually talked more to me than I to her.
I wanted to ask her for her # before I left and meet up with her and her group of people when they go out Friday... that would be great warm club game, she is somewhere around an 8.5 and prolly has hot friends. But like I said, there was girl on the right. So besides the banter I described earlier, the rest was fluff talk. There were a few times I said something to the girl on the right and left girl answered it thinking I was talking to her, but I ignored her. I figured giving her a minimum amount of attention, acting without regard for standard etiquette and possibly being a slight jerk would leave the door open for me, especially when she saw the attention right girl was giving me.
I also made sure to do what Anti-Dump suggested and rather than focus strictly on "hard kino" that involves me actually touching them, do "soft kino" and invade their personal space. I made sure I invaded both of their personal spaces a few times, and they were receptive.
Here's what happened with Right girl:
She was a few minutes early but I was already set up and ready to go, along with most of the room. I looked over at her and said:
Me: "Nice of you to decide to grace us with your presence today"
Her: "Hey now, I'm 2 minutes early... 2 minutes!"
Me: "Okay."
Her: "No seriously, I'm not late! Why are you all set up? Has she given the quiz already?"
Me: "It won't be too hard to make up those points (there was no quiz today, BTW)"
Her: "How could she give the quiz before class started!?!?!"
Me: "Just get here on time next time, k?"
And she looked pretty deflated. About 20 minutes later she realized there wasn't a quiz today and hit me in the shoulder.
She introduced herself to me, complained to me about the lab report for a while and I was zoned out in my work. I'm not sure what all she said. We had to quantify absorbance values for 2 different sets of solutions and I didn't want to do all that, so I split everything and half and gave her work to do while I did mine. And she did it, gladly.
I got her #.
More banter, mostly about nothing, but she laughed at almost everything I said, and seriously guys, a lot of it was not that funny. I was more focused on my work, intentionally, than I was on her. I was also going back and forth between the girl on the left.
Anytime I needed something, I made her go get it. Test tubes, crap from the stock room, whatever. I didn't use any of my own equipment and kept using hers. Including this spay bottle of deiodinized water. She kept getting on my case about taking it (with a smile on her face of course), telling me not to use her "thingy". I told her that she should actually have 2 thingies, and playing with them was something I was perfectly used to. She hit me again, but laughed while she did it.
Whenever she'd try and use my equipment, I'd tell her to get off my drawer and look in her own... she has plenty of stuff there.
As I was cleaning the limited amount of stuff I used of my own up, the girl just came right over next to me by the sink, very close, and mentioned that I smelled very good.
I finished before she did and said something like "I'll see you all next week". Every time I leave a class, I always make some sort of statement to the group that I'm leaving. She didn't hear me and thought I said "I'll see you little thing next week" and said "Hey, who are you calling little thing??"
Me: "What?"
Her: "You just called me little thing!"
Me: "No, I said....[what I said above]"
Her: (laughing) "Oh, oh oh, okay"
Me: (Changing frame like I'm her teacher) "Ok now little thing. Little HB. Have a verrrry good weekend, and make sure you get your nape time in and take plenty of coloring breaks"
She hit me again and I turned around to leave. She told me she was probably going to call me at least 5 times this weekend about the lab.
5 more cold approaches to go, 3 more numbers.
What happened with left girl:
She opened me, actually and asked me some bogus question I knew she already knew the answer to because she had it written down. She was either bored or wanted to open me.
We made banter back and forth for a few minutes and I found out that today is her 21st birthday. I said something like
Me: "Well what kind of crazy plans do you have after class?"
Her: She laughed and didn't really answer the question
Me: "Oh come on, someone like you has to have something crazy going on"
Her: "What's that supposed to mean?" (not angrily, with the same laughing sort of tone)
Me: "Well, you just don't want people to see the big partier you're hiding underneath there (and I kino'd her upper back)... but don't worry, your secret's safe with me."
She laughed again and told me she went out last night, "it was crazy", and was going to her fav restaurant after class. She was going to do the real celebrating on Friday.
I don't know how I could have managed this, because while this was going on, I was pinging over to the girl on my right and bantering back and forth with her. I was also helping the girl on my left with the chemistry assignment... we had to design a procedure to figure out 2 unknown chromophore concentrations in an unknown solution using the Beer-Lambert Law and a spectrophotometer. Yawn.
Left girl was totally lost. Had right girl not been there, I would have qualified my suggestions to her with something like "you know you're really going to owe me when this is over... how do you think you're going to make it up to me?" Instead I just minimally helped her and only gave her a few hints. I figured I was more likely to get one successfully than both successfully, so I largely ignored this girl. But I did spend at least 5 of the 2+ hours of lab talking to her. She actually talked more to me than I to her.
I wanted to ask her for her # before I left and meet up with her and her group of people when they go out Friday... that would be great warm club game, she is somewhere around an 8.5 and prolly has hot friends. But like I said, there was girl on the right. So besides the banter I described earlier, the rest was fluff talk. There were a few times I said something to the girl on the right and left girl answered it thinking I was talking to her, but I ignored her. I figured giving her a minimum amount of attention, acting without regard for standard etiquette and possibly being a slight jerk would leave the door open for me, especially when she saw the attention right girl was giving me.
I also made sure to do what Anti-Dump suggested and rather than focus strictly on "hard kino" that involves me actually touching them, do "soft kino" and invade their personal space. I made sure I invaded both of their personal spaces a few times, and they were receptive.
Here's what happened with Right girl:
She was a few minutes early but I was already set up and ready to go, along with most of the room. I looked over at her and said:
Me: "Nice of you to decide to grace us with your presence today"
Her: "Hey now, I'm 2 minutes early... 2 minutes!"
Me: "Okay."
Her: "No seriously, I'm not late! Why are you all set up? Has she given the quiz already?"
Me: "It won't be too hard to make up those points (there was no quiz today, BTW)"
Her: "How could she give the quiz before class started!?!?!"
Me: "Just get here on time next time, k?"
And she looked pretty deflated. About 20 minutes later she realized there wasn't a quiz today and hit me in the shoulder.
She introduced herself to me, complained to me about the lab report for a while and I was zoned out in my work. I'm not sure what all she said. We had to quantify absorbance values for 2 different sets of solutions and I didn't want to do all that, so I split everything and half and gave her work to do while I did mine. And she did it, gladly.
I got her #.
More banter, mostly about nothing, but she laughed at almost everything I said, and seriously guys, a lot of it was not that funny. I was more focused on my work, intentionally, than I was on her. I was also going back and forth between the girl on the left.
Anytime I needed something, I made her go get it. Test tubes, crap from the stock room, whatever. I didn't use any of my own equipment and kept using hers. Including this spay bottle of deiodinized water. She kept getting on my case about taking it (with a smile on her face of course), telling me not to use her "thingy". I told her that she should actually have 2 thingies, and playing with them was something I was perfectly used to. She hit me again, but laughed while she did it.
Whenever she'd try and use my equipment, I'd tell her to get off my drawer and look in her own... she has plenty of stuff there.
As I was cleaning the limited amount of stuff I used of my own up, the girl just came right over next to me by the sink, very close, and mentioned that I smelled very good.
I finished before she did and said something like "I'll see you all next week". Every time I leave a class, I always make some sort of statement to the group that I'm leaving. She didn't hear me and thought I said "I'll see you little thing next week" and said "Hey, who are you calling little thing??"
Me: "What?"
Her: "You just called me little thing!"
Me: "No, I said....[what I said above]"
Her: (laughing) "Oh, oh oh, okay"
Me: (Changing frame like I'm her teacher) "Ok now little thing. Little HB. Have a verrrry good weekend, and make sure you get your nape time in and take plenty of coloring breaks"
She hit me again and I turned around to leave. She told me she was probably going to call me at least 5 times this weekend about the lab.
5 more cold approaches to go, 3 more numbers.
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Well done, overall. Visualize my feedback as the red markings on your school paper: the less, the better.Rubato said:What happened with left girl:
She opened me, actually and asked me some bogus question I knew she already knew the answer to because she had it written down. She was either bored or wanted to open me. Good, you saw the signs and reacted appropriately.
We made banter back and forth for a few minutes and I found out that today is her 21st birthday. I said something like
Me: "Well what kind of crazy plans do you have after class?"
Her: She laughed and didn't really answer the question
Me: "Oh come on, someone like you has to have something crazy going on"
Her: "What's that supposed to mean?" (not angrily, with the same laughing sort of tone)
Me: "Well, you just don't want people to see the big partier you're hiding underneath there (and I kino'd her upper back)... but don't worry, your secret's safe with me."
This is a good conversation, except for the slip in the highlighted area "someone like you..." You validated her without knowing her, but then you didn't really answered her question directly and managed to recover.
She laughed again and told me she went out last night, "it was crazy", and was going to her fav restaurant after class. She was going to do the real celebrating on Friday.
I don't know how I could have managed this, because while this was going on, I was pinging over to the girl on my right and bantering back and forth with her. I was also helping the girl on my left with the chemistry assignment...
There is not much you could have done differently. You can't close two girls right next to each other. You made a choice and I'm assuming you closed the target of your choice?
Left girl was totally lost. Had right girl not been there, I would have qualified my suggestions to her with something like "you know you're really going to owe me when this is over... how do you think you're going to make it up to me?" Instead I just minimally helped her and only gave her a few hints. I figured I was more likely to get one successfully than both successfully, so I largely ignored this girl. But I did spend at least 5 of the 2+ hours of lab talking to her. She actually talked more to me than I to her.
I wanted to ask her for her # before I left and meet up with her and her group of people when they go out Friday... that would be great warm club game, she is somewhere around an 8.5 and prolly has hot friends. But like I said, there was girl on the right. So besides the banter I described earlier, the rest was fluff talk. There were a few times I said something to the girl on the right and left girl answered it thinking I was talking to her, but I ignored her. I figured giving her a minimum amount of attention, acting without regard for standard etiquette and possibly being a slight jerk would leave the door open for me, especially when she saw the attention right girl was giving me.
I also made sure to do what Anti-Dump suggested and rather than focus strictly on "hard kino" that involves me actually touching them, do "soft kino" and invade their personal space. I made sure I invaded both of their personal spaces a few times, and they were receptive.
Kino takes confidence and composure. This is very good progress.
Here's what happened with Right girl:
She was a few minutes early but I was already set up and ready to go, along with most of the room. I looked over at her and said:
Me: "Nice of you to decide to grace us with your presence today"
Her: "Hey now, I'm 2 minutes early... 2 minutes!"
Me: "Okay."
Her: "No seriously, I'm not late! Why are you all set up? Has she given the quiz already?"
Me: "It won't be too hard to make up those points (there was no quiz today, BTW)"
Her: "How could she give the quiz before class started!?!?!"
Me: "Just get here on time next time, k?"
And she looked pretty deflated. About 20 minutes later she realized there wasn't a quiz today and hit me in the shoulder.
She introduced herself to me, complained to me about the lab report for a while and I was zoned out in my work. I'm not sure what all she said. We had to quantify absorbance values for 2 different sets of solutions and I didn't want to do all that, so I split everything and half and gave her work to do while I did mine. And she did it, gladly.
I got her #.
More banter, mostly about nothing, but she laughed at almost everything I said, and seriously guys, a lot of it was not that funny. I was more focused on my work, intentionally, than I was on her. I was also going back and forth between the girl on the left.
You took the leadership, kept doing your thing and did not prioritize her. She is not used to guys doing this to her.
Anytime I needed something, I made her go get it. Test tubes, crap from the stock room, whatever. I didn't use any of my own equipment and kept using hers. Including this spay bottle of deiodinized water. She kept getting on my case about taking it (with a smile on her face of course), telling me not to use her "thingy". I told her that she should actually have 2 thingies, and playing with them was something I was perfectly used to. She hit me again, but laughed while she did it.
Whenever she'd try and use my equipment, I'd tell her to get off my drawer and look in her own... she has plenty of stuff there.
As I was cleaning the limited amount of stuff I used of my own up, the girl just came right over next to me by the sink, very close, and mentioned that I smelled very good.
Uh oh, now you got the target making moves on you! These are solid IOI's. I get the feeling you have an ability to keep a straight face and keep your composure to pull these conversations off.
I finished before she did and said something like "I'll see you all next week". Every time I leave a class, I always make some sort of statement to the group that I'm leaving. She didn't hear me and thought I said "I'll see you little thing next week" and said "Hey, who are you calling little thing??"
Me: "What?"
Her: "You just called me little thing!"
Me: "No, I said....[what I said above]"
Her: (laughing) "Oh, oh oh, okay"
Me: (Changing frame like I'm her teacher) "Ok now little thing. Little HB. Have a verrrry good weekend, and make sure you get your nape time in and take plenty of coloring breaks"
She hit me again and I turned around to leave. She told me she was probably going to call me at least 5 times this weekend about the lab.
Sweet. :crackup: Man, this is the best part of the post. I love how you treated her like a little girl. This whole combination of skills worked very well. She even flirted with you more and confessed she would call you at least 5 times (disguising it under the lab excuse). Dude, this takes a lot of b@lls. You know how to communicate at a deeper level than other guys she has met before and she very much appreciates it :rockon:
5 more cold approaches to go, 3 more numbers.
Again, you seem to understand communication well. If I were to grade you, this would be an A-.
PS: I got your e-mail. I'm working on it and I will get back to you.
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Got a number today.
Was out picking up some things in between class when I stop at a crosswalk and notice HB6 next to me. We start walking in the same general direction when so I decide to open.
Me: You getting books too?
HB6: *Turns around with a smile* Yeah
We talk for a little bit about classes and majors and such. She's giving me good body language the whole time. She walks into a bookstore but I had to go to another nearby to get the textbook I needed.
About 5-10 min later I've got my book, I'm at the crosswalk and she comes back around me so I ask her if she got her book. This leads us into another discussion, this time about what she wants to do and how her friends always come to her with relationship advice, blah, blah, blah. We have different destinations so I just ask her for her number and text her so she has mine. She doesn't look good enough to date so I'm aiming to just fxck her and keep it moving. Plus, she might have fine friends
Anyway, one down, three to go.
Was out picking up some things in between class when I stop at a crosswalk and notice HB6 next to me. We start walking in the same general direction when so I decide to open.
Me: You getting books too?
HB6: *Turns around with a smile* Yeah
We talk for a little bit about classes and majors and such. She's giving me good body language the whole time. She walks into a bookstore but I had to go to another nearby to get the textbook I needed.
About 5-10 min later I've got my book, I'm at the crosswalk and she comes back around me so I ask her if she got her book. This leads us into another discussion, this time about what she wants to do and how her friends always come to her with relationship advice, blah, blah, blah. We have different destinations so I just ask her for her number and text her so she has mine. She doesn't look good enough to date so I'm aiming to just fxck her and keep it moving. Plus, she might have fine friends
Anyway, one down, three to go.
Packers2010
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nice one guys on getting all the numbers.
i haven't been out in while. maybe i should get on that
i haven't been out in while. maybe i should get on that
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i've been slacking...
last saturday I went to the mall and finished my greetings on HBs...not a great excuse but the next day I got into a fistfight with one of my friends because he was being a belligerent douche (we were both drunk) and I've been kind of preoccupied with classes starting...although I realize this is the perfect opportunity to Dj so I'll try and do this week's challenge over the next few days.
also I was wondering, I brought back this girl from a party before winter break and we banged...she texted me on tuesday when i had gotten back and I said we should meet up sometime this week but I haven't texted her yet. maybe this is a stupid question but what should I do with her? should I bring her to lunch or something or just try and invite her to a party?
last saturday I went to the mall and finished my greetings on HBs...not a great excuse but the next day I got into a fistfight with one of my friends because he was being a belligerent douche (we were both drunk) and I've been kind of preoccupied with classes starting...although I realize this is the perfect opportunity to Dj so I'll try and do this week's challenge over the next few days.
also I was wondering, I brought back this girl from a party before winter break and we banged...she texted me on tuesday when i had gotten back and I said we should meet up sometime this week but I haven't texted her yet. maybe this is a stupid question but what should I do with her? should I bring her to lunch or something or just try and invite her to a party?
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Went out sarging last night. For all intensive purposes I completed this leg of the challenge as far as approaching goes but I am only going to count 3 of the approaches last night because I was drunk, they were bad approaches, and I don't really even remember everything.
Set 1:
I ran in to a movie producer with my wing on the way to the bar who was unfamiliar with the town and asked us to escort him to a good bar he could drink at without being overwhelmed. We were heading to such a place and brought him and his girl with us. There was a 2 set at the bar intermixed with a bunch of bros and fat girls. My wing opened the girl on the right, I opened the girl on the left.
I asked the girl how she was doing and what she was doing out. She had on a small little dress so I assumed she was looking to be noticed (and it wasn't my intention to validate her, that was just an observation). After about 1-2 minutes of fluff, I kino'd both girls on the shoulders and asked them how they knew each other. I did a small cold read and said something like they had to be best friends
"Oh my gosh, how did you know?!?!?"
They worked in the same store or something together. They talked about how much of BFF's they are for a little while and I interjected and said
"If you 2 are so close, you have to have some absolutely crazy story... what's the wildest sh*t you've ever gotten in to together".
And they liked that question and started talking amongst themselves and decided they'd tell me their story if I told them one of mine. My wing jumped in and started talking about how I have a lot of absolutely ridiculous stories saying:
"Rubato, tell the story about X... no wait, how about Y... NO, you have a better one than that... (pause)... remember the witch?"
He was going off the cuff with this and some of the sh*t he was alluding to never happened. But the witch story was true. Basically there was a girl on the dance team who was infatuated with me and invited me over to her place to hookup. When I got there, I found out she was a legit witch with pentagrams, spell books, a motor and pistil, and all the herbs you could want. She offered to cast a spell for me and I left.
They got a kick out of the story and while they were laughing, I ejected and played a game of pool with my wing and proceeded to start getting wasted. I never game drunk and the rest of the story will tell why. My game is awful when I'm drunk.
After the game of pool, that I would have one if I hadn't of bumped the 8 ball in early, I went back to the blonde, gave a false time constraint, asked for her story and it was so lame I don't even remember what it was. Something about her girlfriend proposing to her boyfriend outside of the bar. I busted on her for having a bad story, talked for about another minute and went for the number. She said she didn't give out her # to guys, I said something like "A lot of dudes would keep after you for you're number wouldn't they (I stopped for a moment, brought my face very close to hers and made really strong eye contact for a minute).... well have fun with those dudes tonight" and I immediately turned and walked away.
Set 2:
We went over to the club and I had had several drinks by this point and was drunk. My wing opened a set and I was with him but couldn't think of anything to say. I can't think very well drunk. I think the only thing I said in this set was ripping on one of the girls for bragging about how she had her corset pierced. She said something like "isn't that just the cutest thing?" And.... I told her what I thought.
I am not counting this set, obviously.
Set 3:
There was a 2 set, my wing opened the right girl, I opened the left girl. I found out she goes to the country line dancing bar I go to, but on a different night. I'm amazing I held down a conversation with this girl for as long as I did because I had nothing to say. I don't remember a lot of what we talked about. We ejected after about 6 minutes on a good note.
Set 4-6 or 7
I don't really remember any of these and if I participated on them, it was very minimal.
If I can't remember it, it doesn't count.
Set 8:
There was a lone wolf sitting by herself and my wing was telling me all I had to do to open was find something observational to say, but seriously, I couldn't engage my mind. So I walked over, sat down and asked her what she was doing over by herself. I couldn't keep the conversation going for more than maybe 90 seconds and ejected. Like I said, I had nothing to say.
This was too short to count.
Set 9:
On my way back, I saw this girl who was dressed like trash but somewhat pretty wearing a pink hoody that says "I love pink" on it. I walked up to her and said "So, I see you like pink". She gave me a very annoyed look and turned away from me.
I think they girl actually has to talk to you in order for it to count.
Set 10:
Last set of the night before I decided I was a lost cause as a drunk. There was a 4 set or so and I opened asking what they were all doing out. I don't remember what they were doing. I asked maybe 2 more questions and I don't think they were even listening to me by the last question.
This was like my worst sarge attempt ever. Prior to this I have only ever had 2 other girls tell me they wouldn't give me their digits. Now it's up to 3. And I know I'm not the best conversationalist with cold approaching, but it was awful. I think I just came across drunk, creepy, dazed, and, and possibly confused. Any and all of those would be accurate.
That leaves me with 3 more cold approach 5 minute convos to do and 2 more # attempts.
Set 1:
I ran in to a movie producer with my wing on the way to the bar who was unfamiliar with the town and asked us to escort him to a good bar he could drink at without being overwhelmed. We were heading to such a place and brought him and his girl with us. There was a 2 set at the bar intermixed with a bunch of bros and fat girls. My wing opened the girl on the right, I opened the girl on the left.
I asked the girl how she was doing and what she was doing out. She had on a small little dress so I assumed she was looking to be noticed (and it wasn't my intention to validate her, that was just an observation). After about 1-2 minutes of fluff, I kino'd both girls on the shoulders and asked them how they knew each other. I did a small cold read and said something like they had to be best friends
"Oh my gosh, how did you know?!?!?"
They worked in the same store or something together. They talked about how much of BFF's they are for a little while and I interjected and said
"If you 2 are so close, you have to have some absolutely crazy story... what's the wildest sh*t you've ever gotten in to together".
And they liked that question and started talking amongst themselves and decided they'd tell me their story if I told them one of mine. My wing jumped in and started talking about how I have a lot of absolutely ridiculous stories saying:
"Rubato, tell the story about X... no wait, how about Y... NO, you have a better one than that... (pause)... remember the witch?"
He was going off the cuff with this and some of the sh*t he was alluding to never happened. But the witch story was true. Basically there was a girl on the dance team who was infatuated with me and invited me over to her place to hookup. When I got there, I found out she was a legit witch with pentagrams, spell books, a motor and pistil, and all the herbs you could want. She offered to cast a spell for me and I left.
They got a kick out of the story and while they were laughing, I ejected and played a game of pool with my wing and proceeded to start getting wasted. I never game drunk and the rest of the story will tell why. My game is awful when I'm drunk.
After the game of pool, that I would have one if I hadn't of bumped the 8 ball in early, I went back to the blonde, gave a false time constraint, asked for her story and it was so lame I don't even remember what it was. Something about her girlfriend proposing to her boyfriend outside of the bar. I busted on her for having a bad story, talked for about another minute and went for the number. She said she didn't give out her # to guys, I said something like "A lot of dudes would keep after you for you're number wouldn't they (I stopped for a moment, brought my face very close to hers and made really strong eye contact for a minute).... well have fun with those dudes tonight" and I immediately turned and walked away.
Set 2:
We went over to the club and I had had several drinks by this point and was drunk. My wing opened a set and I was with him but couldn't think of anything to say. I can't think very well drunk. I think the only thing I said in this set was ripping on one of the girls for bragging about how she had her corset pierced. She said something like "isn't that just the cutest thing?" And.... I told her what I thought.
I am not counting this set, obviously.
Set 3:
There was a 2 set, my wing opened the right girl, I opened the left girl. I found out she goes to the country line dancing bar I go to, but on a different night. I'm amazing I held down a conversation with this girl for as long as I did because I had nothing to say. I don't remember a lot of what we talked about. We ejected after about 6 minutes on a good note.
Set 4-6 or 7
I don't really remember any of these and if I participated on them, it was very minimal.
If I can't remember it, it doesn't count.
Set 8:
There was a lone wolf sitting by herself and my wing was telling me all I had to do to open was find something observational to say, but seriously, I couldn't engage my mind. So I walked over, sat down and asked her what she was doing over by herself. I couldn't keep the conversation going for more than maybe 90 seconds and ejected. Like I said, I had nothing to say.
This was too short to count.
Set 9:
On my way back, I saw this girl who was dressed like trash but somewhat pretty wearing a pink hoody that says "I love pink" on it. I walked up to her and said "So, I see you like pink". She gave me a very annoyed look and turned away from me.
I think they girl actually has to talk to you in order for it to count.
Set 10:
Last set of the night before I decided I was a lost cause as a drunk. There was a 4 set or so and I opened asking what they were all doing out. I don't remember what they were doing. I asked maybe 2 more questions and I don't think they were even listening to me by the last question.
This was like my worst sarge attempt ever. Prior to this I have only ever had 2 other girls tell me they wouldn't give me their digits. Now it's up to 3. And I know I'm not the best conversationalist with cold approaching, but it was awful. I think I just came across drunk, creepy, dazed, and, and possibly confused. Any and all of those would be accurate.
That leaves me with 3 more cold approach 5 minute convos to do and 2 more # attempts.
DonJuanit0
Master Don Juan
Me: Hey, I'm george (giving my hand for a handsake)
Her: I'm ....
Me: I will tell you about 2 movies, you'll get to pick the one and we'll go watch it together, ok?
Her: Ok, tell me!
Me: Ok, I have no idea, I just tried to find a way to ask you out! We can watch a movie or something anyway!
Her: haha, ok we could I guess!
Me: Would you type your phone number here?
Her: typing...
Me: Have a good rest of the day!
Her: you too!
That's was the first one!
Tried the same after a while but failed!
Me: hey, I'm George!
Her: Hey,
Me: I have two movies bla bla bla
Her: I'm afraid I can't!
Me: It's ok, have a nice day!
Her: You too George!
Her: I'm ....
Me: I will tell you about 2 movies, you'll get to pick the one and we'll go watch it together, ok?
Her: Ok, tell me!
Me: Ok, I have no idea, I just tried to find a way to ask you out! We can watch a movie or something anyway!
Her: haha, ok we could I guess!
Me: Would you type your phone number here?
Her: typing...
Me: Have a good rest of the day!
Her: you too!
That's was the first one!
Tried the same after a while but failed!
Me: hey, I'm George!
Her: Hey,
Me: I have two movies bla bla bla
Her: I'm afraid I can't!
Me: It's ok, have a nice day!
Her: You too George!
I was out yesterday at a party, some conversation with the ladies here and there. A girl just stopped me and told me a friend of mine was saying that I would take her shopping. Couple minutes later I ask her to type her phone number. She agrees.
I doubt something will happen but it was pretty easy.
I doubt something will happen but it was pretty easy.
Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Talking about babysteps... For me, this ain't gonna work. I mean; going from saying hi to seven strangers to talking for five minutes to seven hot girls? I mean; thats kinda the same as going from riding a bike to flying a plane. The challenge itself seems so hard that I was discouraged before I even started trying...
DonJuanit0
Master Don Juan
I agree on this! Although i tried for 2 numbers I wouldn't hold the convo for 5 mins right on the street! Seems impossible!TheMusic said:
R
Rubato
Guest
You need to calibrate this challenege to an appropriate location. The streets are not an ideal place to poach women for conversations longer than what is required to pick up the number. This sort of thing is better suited for a different venue like a coffee shop, store, mall, food court, bar, or some place where it's less likely the woman will be in a hurry to get somewhere or mission minded. You can make street pickup happen, but it hasn't been the most ideal location for me.DonJuanit0 said:
I don't think this is as hard as you guys are thinking. Stop thinking about it and do it. You really can't fail this exercise unless you don't do it. I was a pretty big chump AFC a few years ago and this would have definitely pushed me out of my comfort zone, but this was how I looked at it when I would do things like that... If I can talk to one of my dudes for 5 minutes, I can talk to a skirt for 5 minutes too. I had to get it in my head that talking to women is a very low risk thing. We build it up so much in our heads that it makes me laugh sometimes. They're just girls, and a lot of them are weird
R
Rubato
Guest
Are hired guns excluded from this? If not, I talked to 2 bartenders at Buffalo Wild Wings this afternoon for about a half hour. This was not an outcome oriented conversation, just talking while I was killing time waiting for a date. If it does count, 1 more approach, 2 more #'s.
roman81
Don Juan
2nd Challenge field report
I had 2 great nights, I decided that I ought do the first part of the challenge talking to women that I’m attracted to, I feel that the more I talk to hot girls the more comfortable I feel and the conversations come a lot easier, more natural.
The plan was to do a pub crawl around the uni area. Loads of the pubs do a happy hour and other promotions on Thursdays so they tend to rammed with lots of different sets. I was out with a friend who is a natural, we winged for each other and that worked out really well for me. He finished with 6 number closes and 2 kiss closes. I didn’t do so well, only 2 number closes. On the other hand it was good practice for me and things improved on Friday. 1 number close 2 kiss closes (one of these I already knew)
Over the two days I approached a lot of women probably 20+. Some of these were super hot and I shyit my pants big time BUT I STILL DID IT.
Thursday
1st pub, 2 set hb6 and hb7 noticed hb6 looking in our direction a couple of times
Made eye contact with hb6 and smiled, she smiled back
Me: You’re hot, you should talk to me. Are you friendly? (big smile + eye contact)
HB6: LOL, cheeky (touches my arm)
HB6: Where are you from?
Me: If you guess in 3 I’ll let you buy me a drink
HB6: Laughs, aren’t you supposed to buy the drinks
Me: If you’re good I’ll buy the second and the third (smile)
HB6: Laughs. No way
At this point I turned to the side and start talking to my friend
HB6: So you gonna tell me or what
I smile at her and carry on talking to my friend. She punches me playfully in the arm and says something that I didn’t get. I accuse her of assault and she comes up to me starts apologizing and asks me what I wanted to drink. Once we got the drinks, the 4 of us sit down and talk about plans for the night and other bs, I keep my promise and buy the second round. I asked her to help me with the drinks and while waiting I asked for her number, she gave it with a smile. My friend number closed her friend
2nd bar, this bar was packed with loud music so hard to talk but it was awesome practice for body language to do the talking. I stood up proud and every time i made eye contact with HBs I smiled every time where it was appropriate.
3 set HBs 7+
This one **** me up, all the girls were hot and I just saw them shoot a guy down like no one’s business, both my friend and I watched this and started egging each other on to have a go. I tried to focus on the least good looking one. She was a bit chubby but very pretty non the less. I walk toward them and sort of bumped into her a little.
Me: You don’t have to throw yourself at me you could have just said hi (smiling all the time)
Her: Shocked, that was all you, you did it on purpose haha you just wanted to get your hands on me.
Her friend jumps in at this point and say sorry mate you’re not her type, then she tried to move her away from me. My friend took this opportunity to talk to the third girl in the group. We talked for a bit but nothing came of it. I have to admit I was a little thrown by the **** blocking friend and never recovered. Any suggestions for dealing with huge b itch shields are welcome.
Same bar (smoking area) 2set hb7 hb7.5
I opened this one by just asking for a lighter. hb7 was really smiley and chatty, I asked if her friend ever smiled, she seemed hurt by this, so I told them a funny story from my childhood and both of them laughed.
Me: I knew I’d get you to smile, you almost look half way cute when you smile (eye contact +small smile)
Her: laughing…so where you guys been tonight
Me: blabla
At this point my friend starts gaming hb7 and isolates her. This should be good news for me but my brain just didn’t engage. I tried to tease and kino but got no response I ejected soon afterwards. My friend got the other one’s number.
3rd bar mixed 3 set Hb8 HB7 and a guy
While standing at the bar I noticed the hb7 looking at me, I smile, she smiles, I didn’t approach, I was kind of scared, I didn’t want start gaming her in front of the guy. For whatever reason I didn’t feel comfortable doing it. Later on I got into a conversation with the guy in the smoking area and hb7 ended up opening me. Long story short, this one liked me and we talked for a while, the covo was relaxed, when my friend came to get me I asked for her number and got it, this one was easy.
4th bar, 2set both hb8 blond and brunette
We first met these 2 in the street on our way to a cash point, my friend tried to open them and other than I a smile from the blond one this was a fail. When I saw them at the bar I opened the blond one
Me: Hey quit following me around its getting creepy! (smiling with good eye contact)
Her: Laughs and walks over to her friend.
While I was getting served I noticed her checking me out but my friend wanted me to wing for him. In the smoking area I see her again.
Me: woman you’re freaking me out, quit this obsession
Her: LOL, I’m hb8
Me: roman, so what you been up to tonight other than stalking me
Her: lol, bla bla
At this point her friend comes back and we talk some fluff and I lose it, they start to talk amongst themselves and I eject .
I had 2 great nights, I decided that I ought do the first part of the challenge talking to women that I’m attracted to, I feel that the more I talk to hot girls the more comfortable I feel and the conversations come a lot easier, more natural.
The plan was to do a pub crawl around the uni area. Loads of the pubs do a happy hour and other promotions on Thursdays so they tend to rammed with lots of different sets. I was out with a friend who is a natural, we winged for each other and that worked out really well for me. He finished with 6 number closes and 2 kiss closes. I didn’t do so well, only 2 number closes. On the other hand it was good practice for me and things improved on Friday. 1 number close 2 kiss closes (one of these I already knew)
Over the two days I approached a lot of women probably 20+. Some of these were super hot and I shyit my pants big time BUT I STILL DID IT.
Thursday
1st pub, 2 set hb6 and hb7 noticed hb6 looking in our direction a couple of times
Made eye contact with hb6 and smiled, she smiled back
Me: You’re hot, you should talk to me. Are you friendly? (big smile + eye contact)
HB6: LOL, cheeky (touches my arm)
HB6: Where are you from?
Me: If you guess in 3 I’ll let you buy me a drink
HB6: Laughs, aren’t you supposed to buy the drinks
Me: If you’re good I’ll buy the second and the third (smile)
HB6: Laughs. No way
At this point I turned to the side and start talking to my friend
HB6: So you gonna tell me or what
I smile at her and carry on talking to my friend. She punches me playfully in the arm and says something that I didn’t get. I accuse her of assault and she comes up to me starts apologizing and asks me what I wanted to drink. Once we got the drinks, the 4 of us sit down and talk about plans for the night and other bs, I keep my promise and buy the second round. I asked her to help me with the drinks and while waiting I asked for her number, she gave it with a smile. My friend number closed her friend
2nd bar, this bar was packed with loud music so hard to talk but it was awesome practice for body language to do the talking. I stood up proud and every time i made eye contact with HBs I smiled every time where it was appropriate.
3 set HBs 7+
This one **** me up, all the girls were hot and I just saw them shoot a guy down like no one’s business, both my friend and I watched this and started egging each other on to have a go. I tried to focus on the least good looking one. She was a bit chubby but very pretty non the less. I walk toward them and sort of bumped into her a little.
Me: You don’t have to throw yourself at me you could have just said hi (smiling all the time)
Her: Shocked, that was all you, you did it on purpose haha you just wanted to get your hands on me.
Her friend jumps in at this point and say sorry mate you’re not her type, then she tried to move her away from me. My friend took this opportunity to talk to the third girl in the group. We talked for a bit but nothing came of it. I have to admit I was a little thrown by the **** blocking friend and never recovered. Any suggestions for dealing with huge b itch shields are welcome.
Same bar (smoking area) 2set hb7 hb7.5
I opened this one by just asking for a lighter. hb7 was really smiley and chatty, I asked if her friend ever smiled, she seemed hurt by this, so I told them a funny story from my childhood and both of them laughed.
Me: I knew I’d get you to smile, you almost look half way cute when you smile (eye contact +small smile)
Her: laughing…so where you guys been tonight
Me: blabla
At this point my friend starts gaming hb7 and isolates her. This should be good news for me but my brain just didn’t engage. I tried to tease and kino but got no response I ejected soon afterwards. My friend got the other one’s number.
3rd bar mixed 3 set Hb8 HB7 and a guy
While standing at the bar I noticed the hb7 looking at me, I smile, she smiles, I didn’t approach, I was kind of scared, I didn’t want start gaming her in front of the guy. For whatever reason I didn’t feel comfortable doing it. Later on I got into a conversation with the guy in the smoking area and hb7 ended up opening me. Long story short, this one liked me and we talked for a while, the covo was relaxed, when my friend came to get me I asked for her number and got it, this one was easy.
4th bar, 2set both hb8 blond and brunette
We first met these 2 in the street on our way to a cash point, my friend tried to open them and other than I a smile from the blond one this was a fail. When I saw them at the bar I opened the blond one
Me: Hey quit following me around its getting creepy! (smiling with good eye contact)
Her: Laughs and walks over to her friend.
While I was getting served I noticed her checking me out but my friend wanted me to wing for him. In the smoking area I see her again.
Me: woman you’re freaking me out, quit this obsession
Her: LOL, I’m hb8
Me: roman, so what you been up to tonight other than stalking me
Her: lol, bla bla
At this point her friend comes back and we talk some fluff and I lose it, they start to talk amongst themselves and I eject .
roman81
Don Juan
Friday
Went out with the same friend, we decided to keep it local and only went to 2 bars. I noticed some of the things my friend did when he talked to women.
1. He never stands directly in front of them always to the side at an angle
2. When he teases it’s always sexual and light
3. He never repeats the same tease on different girls
4. He smiles but it’s very selective
5. He comes across very relaxed and laid back
1st bar 4set all hb7+
I knew one of the girls form work so I went over and said hi, me and my friend got introduced and we talked a little, this was a bit of a standard conversation to begin with. All the girls were dressed for a night on the town so I assumed they were not staying for long. So I focused on the girl I already knew, asked her about work and how she was and blab la bla. She tells she’s not feeling all that great as she recently broke up with her boyfriend and how she needs a night out with the girls. At this point I gave her a hug took her hand and asked to come out for a cigarette. In the smoking area I hugged her again, told her she smelled nice and that she looked hot and she’ll get another guy no problems and then she kissed me. We went back inside holding hands and smiling, before she left she said she wanted to meet up next week.
Same bar 2 set hb8 blonde hb7/8 brunette
I noticed the blond and her friend standing at the bar while me and my mate were with the 4 set.
Made eye contact first smiled and opened with a Mystery line
Me: Your hair is nice, is it real? (big smile)
Her: (smiles then pretends to be hurt) Course it’s real, my friend did for me (points to hb7/8)
My wing: be careful man she looks dangerous you’ll get whipped
Her friend: shocked, what you on about
My wing: It’s the leather trousers! (he just said it and smiled)
HBs both laugh
After some fluff talk we end up buying them drinks and playing pool, talking about standard stuff, the blond seemed into me, leaning in when talking to me, smiling and making lots of eye contact, asking loads of questions, so when she asked me what I did for a living, told her I was disposable lighter repair man, I don’t think she got it, when I told her that my wing was a copper the convo turned sexual, I asked her how many whips she had and how my mate can led us his hand cuffs. We left for another bar, by this time we were well on our way to getting drunk, me and the blond went for a dance, afterwards we talked bs but there was lots of kino and good eye contact, I asked for her number she gave me it and I kissed her. I arranged to meet her next week.
Went out with the same friend, we decided to keep it local and only went to 2 bars. I noticed some of the things my friend did when he talked to women.
1. He never stands directly in front of them always to the side at an angle
2. When he teases it’s always sexual and light
3. He never repeats the same tease on different girls
4. He smiles but it’s very selective
5. He comes across very relaxed and laid back
1st bar 4set all hb7+
I knew one of the girls form work so I went over and said hi, me and my friend got introduced and we talked a little, this was a bit of a standard conversation to begin with. All the girls were dressed for a night on the town so I assumed they were not staying for long. So I focused on the girl I already knew, asked her about work and how she was and blab la bla. She tells she’s not feeling all that great as she recently broke up with her boyfriend and how she needs a night out with the girls. At this point I gave her a hug took her hand and asked to come out for a cigarette. In the smoking area I hugged her again, told her she smelled nice and that she looked hot and she’ll get another guy no problems and then she kissed me. We went back inside holding hands and smiling, before she left she said she wanted to meet up next week.
Same bar 2 set hb8 blonde hb7/8 brunette
I noticed the blond and her friend standing at the bar while me and my mate were with the 4 set.
Made eye contact first smiled and opened with a Mystery line
Me: Your hair is nice, is it real? (big smile)
Her: (smiles then pretends to be hurt) Course it’s real, my friend did for me (points to hb7/8)
My wing: be careful man she looks dangerous you’ll get whipped
Her friend: shocked, what you on about
My wing: It’s the leather trousers! (he just said it and smiled)
HBs both laugh
After some fluff talk we end up buying them drinks and playing pool, talking about standard stuff, the blond seemed into me, leaning in when talking to me, smiling and making lots of eye contact, asking loads of questions, so when she asked me what I did for a living, told her I was disposable lighter repair man, I don’t think she got it, when I told her that my wing was a copper the convo turned sexual, I asked her how many whips she had and how my mate can led us his hand cuffs. We left for another bar, by this time we were well on our way to getting drunk, me and the blond went for a dance, afterwards we talked bs but there was lots of kino and good eye contact, I asked for her number she gave me it and I kissed her. I arranged to meet her next week.
roman81
Don Juan
Packers2010
Master Don Juan
the sick thing this. i am going to Manchester to meet up a friend this weekend. got a hotel for 3 days. going to be OFF THE WALL SICK!
going to talk to as many girls as i can! then hopeful find some drunk ones who want the **** then it's off to the hotel room.
what i have learnt, is the disconnect between, talking to a girl just cos, and talking because you want something.
i felt pretty good today, went out for a bit. ( wasn't out to talk to girls mind) so as i was on the way back home. it struck me pretty hard, that every time i would talk to a girl. i would get that feeling inside. you know the one i am talking about. though when i was thinking about this weekend and talking to girls, i didn't get that feeling. ( most all other times i do, even when thinking about it) I stopped myself. At this point i really did feel freedom from outcome. It felt like a nothing, like it was normal. when i realized what i had done. That bad feeling came back, though this time it was a Little week.
there is freedom from outcome there, though i have not tested it infield yet. this is for this weekend.
going to talk to as many girls as i can! then hopeful find some drunk ones who want the **** then it's off to the hotel room.
what i have learnt, is the disconnect between, talking to a girl just cos, and talking because you want something.
i felt pretty good today, went out for a bit. ( wasn't out to talk to girls mind) so as i was on the way back home. it struck me pretty hard, that every time i would talk to a girl. i would get that feeling inside. you know the one i am talking about. though when i was thinking about this weekend and talking to girls, i didn't get that feeling. ( most all other times i do, even when thinking about it) I stopped myself. At this point i really did feel freedom from outcome. It felt like a nothing, like it was normal. when i realized what i had done. That bad feeling came back, though this time it was a Little week.
there is freedom from outcome there, though i have not tested it infield yet. this is for this weekend.
R
Rubato
Guest
Done. Got the other girl's number in my lab today. Got another HB's # at the ice skating rink yesterday while I was waiting for my date. I used my typical day game line:
"Hey, I don't have time to talk to you right now but you're beautiful and I'd like to get to know you. Give me your number and we'll talk".
She wrote down her # for me on one of my business cards but didn't give it to me immediately and continued the conversation. I tend to get responses like this every now and then during day game. She told me she wishes more men were like me because the only attention she gets from guys is cat calls from guys oogling over her body at the bar. She says she can't remember the last time a guy confidently walked up to her and soberly expressed interest in her.
I told her that when you put people in to boxes you tend to have the box broken and to think about what I said. "You're beautiful". And I reiterated that again. I kino'd her shoulder, brought her in a little closer to me so we were standing side by side and pointed to 3 or 4 other girls who were also beautiful and reminded her that beauty is pretty common and is not enough for me. "Do you have anything else hiding beneath those blue eyes?"
I don't normally do approaches this bold, but I'm going to start doing them more regularly. This girl was absolutely transfixed with me. She started qualifying herself to me, explaining that she wasn't just some pretty girl, but I took my finger and pushed it against her lips... "shhhhhh". You can tell me all about yourself when I take you out." I told her that I was waiting for one of my friends, took her hand, held it in front of my mouth and looked in to her eyes for a moment. Kissed her hand. And walked away. She still had the card... I knew this. After a second or too she started running after me telling me not to forget the card. I took the card and thanked her.
That was one of the best approach I've ever done. She has asked me 3 times since last night about making plans.
"Hey, I don't have time to talk to you right now but you're beautiful and I'd like to get to know you. Give me your number and we'll talk".
She wrote down her # for me on one of my business cards but didn't give it to me immediately and continued the conversation. I tend to get responses like this every now and then during day game. She told me she wishes more men were like me because the only attention she gets from guys is cat calls from guys oogling over her body at the bar. She says she can't remember the last time a guy confidently walked up to her and soberly expressed interest in her.
I told her that when you put people in to boxes you tend to have the box broken and to think about what I said. "You're beautiful". And I reiterated that again. I kino'd her shoulder, brought her in a little closer to me so we were standing side by side and pointed to 3 or 4 other girls who were also beautiful and reminded her that beauty is pretty common and is not enough for me. "Do you have anything else hiding beneath those blue eyes?"
I don't normally do approaches this bold, but I'm going to start doing them more regularly. This girl was absolutely transfixed with me. She started qualifying herself to me, explaining that she wasn't just some pretty girl, but I took my finger and pushed it against her lips... "shhhhhh". You can tell me all about yourself when I take you out." I told her that I was waiting for one of my friends, took her hand, held it in front of my mouth and looked in to her eyes for a moment. Kissed her hand. And walked away. She still had the card... I knew this. After a second or too she started running after me telling me not to forget the card. I took the card and thanked her.
That was one of the best approach I've ever done. She has asked me 3 times since last night about making plans.
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Young Rocketship said:Got a number today.
Was out picking up some things in between class when I stop at a crosswalk and notice HB6 next to me. We start walking in the same general direction when so I decide to open.
Me: You getting books too?
HB6: *Turns around with a smile* Yeah
We talk for a little bit about classes and majors and such. She's giving me good body language the whole time. She walks into a bookstore but I had to go to another nearby to get the textbook I needed.
About 5-10 min later I've got my book, I'm at the crosswalk and she comes back around me so I ask her if she got her book. This leads us into another discussion, this time about what she wants to do and how her friends always come to her with relationship advice, blah, blah, blah. We have different destinations so I just ask her for her number and text her so she has mine. She doesn't look good enough to date so I'm aiming to just fxck her and keep it moving. Plus, she might have fine friends
Anyway, one down, three to go.
Very good.
Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.
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