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Exactly. I'm starting to believe one of the biggest traps guys fall into is macking on girls they are not genuinely interested in.

Because you will encounter way more average girls than hot ones.

To be honest, I've never quite liked these amog tactics. Why should I have to tool some dude who is showing a genuine interest in a chick? I hate to parrot particular PUA's so much, but you guys need to read up on Juggler.

You guys need to stop, take a deep breath and listen to Francisco. He's giving out some grade A advice. Also a lot of people tend to base their beliefs on only a handful of experiences. Unless one has hit on and interacted with hundreds of different girls you can't even begin to come to any...

Okay, I'm no guru, I'm still learning myself but I can tell you from field experience what I've learned. If you want to be more social, you have to...be more social. There's no e-book to read or DVD you can watch to gain great social skills. You just have to get outside your comfort zone and...

The correct answer is work on your social skills. Woman are social creatures. The whole point of the DJ bible, the Mystery Method and various other seduction sources is to demonstrate social value. If you really want to compete in these situations you need to work on your social skills.

So I'm starting the boot camp tommorrow. 50 hi's in a week? I'm on it. I'll be posting to keep you guys up to date.

Just walking up and expressing genuine interest in one particular girl. But I guess you are just going to have to accomodate her friends before her.

I've been making the transition to a more natural direct game. The only problem is using it on a group of women. The times I've done it the friend/friends had ****blocked me. At times I was able to overcome it but is there any real solution?

Exactly. Microphone fiend, you need to start being more direct with your approaches. Read some gunwitch.

Your argument has no merit because you have no real evidence. You're referring to a hypothetical scenario which you may have never even witnessed. If you want to build a better argument cite real life examples and experiences. Even if you're right how is this improving your life? Will it...

A)You're making leaps in logic. B)What are you trying to prove?

If I'm reading you correctly you don't want to be a "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" but you also aren't looking for a prospective wife. You want a string of meaningful relationships that all end at a high point, right?