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    How To Control The Frame

    My take, Juando, is pretty much summed up in my last post: A woman who's genuinely interested will be interested five days later, a week later, even a month later. I'll add this: By NOT calling right away, DJ or not, you permit time to work for you, not against you. Here's how: You're giving...
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    Isn't it a bit late for her to start playing hard to get?

    But then she'd continue to see him on the sly, like she was doing before.
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    How To Control The Frame

    I can compare women's IL behavior with that I've experienced from women who had definite high interest. Here's somewhat how it goes when you finally call a few days later (in my case, I was making call backs from five days to a week later): SHE: [delighted and cooing] "Oh hi, Mr. Me! How are...
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    How To Control The Frame

    Those aren't necessarily two different things. Those are two sides of the same coin. Yes, women flake when not interested, yet, a woman may have high enough interest level, BUT should there come along something ( could be another man, could be a career move, whatever...) that she has one...
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    Isn't it a bit late for her to start playing hard to get?

    Mac, I'm not cutting him down. I'm not "trying to make him feel" a damn thing. I'm guessing you're saying that because I gave a "chic uptown professional woman who has an affair with the hunky janitor" scenario? I gave that as an example of the probable mentality of the woman he's dealing with...
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    Isn't it a bit late for her to start playing hard to get?

    Sounds to me like she may have thought of you as good enough as a Boy Toy, but doesn't think of you as being in her league? Is there a class issue, for example, you're blue collar and she's white collar? Anything like that? I'm wondering because when you met her roommates and she seemed to...
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    Date with a lawyer tomorrow!!

    If all she wanted was just a ONS, probably never to see him again after that, why would she concern herself with the names in his cell of what other women he might be seeing? It would only be a concern if she was looking not to get played. You don't need that for a ONS to happen. Dear...
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    reengaging in the game

    All you're describing in detail, woggle, is a woman with low interest, either that or she's a loon. The book excerpts, the topics of conversation, all that means nothing, really. We could come up with several hundred theories about why she waxes and wanes. The bottom line though is, she does...
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    Date with a lawyer tomorrow!!

    It's funny how I get this "you're over analyzing / over reacting" comment, when actually, it's that you guys are simply aren't picking up on everything that's happened and seem to not realize what's there. Hey, you can't know what you're not aware of. Oh iqqy, that comment I made about what...
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    Date with a lawyer tomorrow!!

    Not my idea of a fine date. What would make it a great date? Catching her going though my wallet while she flirts with the entire wait staff? One day, years down the road, MNIN, you'll remember this message and maybe finally it will dawn you how it's just BS. And you'll be able to easily...
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    reengaging in the game

    I see what you're saying, yet, she actually stopped seeing him back when she told him "look me up when you're single". She didn't intend to ever really date him down the line, which is why when he finally let her know that he was single, she bailed out for good. If she was a CP who was into...
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    reengaging in the game

    Yep. Female Commitment Phobes. But this one stopped seeing him before he became single. She bolted before he arrived single on her doorstep, back while he was still tied up in the divorce. How would you account for that?
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    Date with a lawyer tomorrow!!

    Realize, MNIN, that whatever rationalization you offer up to explain why you'd reply is going to be just that: a mere rationalization.
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    Girls with low self esteem

    Breast? You only talk about one at a time? I guess talking about both was more than a mouthful. "How good you look" was NOT the message she heard from you. You basically told her "You're an unhappy person with low self esteem". No wonder she got angry at you. My guess is, when she told you...
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    How should I play it

    There's a few other factors you're not considering. For example, what if one of your superiors has his eye on that girl as well, unknown to you, and c#ckblocks you... as in, gets you fired. What if one of those people that saw you leave with her, thinks it improper of you. Then mentions it to...
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    reengaging in the game

    You're not going to believe me, but she lost interest back around when she told you she'd prefer you were single. Up to that time, you guys connected "pretty tight" while she knew you were going through the divorce and that was okay for a little while with her - but the result wasn't her saying...
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    Question about kids....

    I find that women will ask you such questions early on anyway, if they're interested in you. "Are you single?" "Do you have kids?" "How many?" That affords you the opportunity to answer. Some women around your age may want to find a guy without kids, because they want to have a family of their...
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    good example of female rationalization

    That's the key, isn't it? The first woman, though his girlfriend, doesn't really love him (and love is based on respect, so she doesn't respect him either) so she really couldn't be bothered with the fact that she was shaming him in public. I'd agree that you have to let them know where the...
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    Date with a lawyer tomorrow!!

    She said she doesn't want to see you, and you're going to contact her? She's an attorney. You want her to file that you're stalking or harassing her? Why do you have to reply to her, anyway? What is it inside you that makes you feel you so need to do that?
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    Date with a lawyer tomorrow!!

    So what are you saying? That while you were in the bathroom, she couldn't have possibly examined your phone? WAKE UP!!! She saw it there, picked it up, went through it, saw the girl's names, placed it back where she found it, and when you walked out from the bathroom, she then made like...
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