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Fender - that approach works with me. I usually just start talking as if I were talking to another guy. After a couple of encounters, I've had women offer up their phone number to me. It's perfect - you come across as not desperate, and a little mysterious, and you get them wondering if you...

This thread is epic. Trim - good work man. My woman and yours - so many similarities - except mine made it easy on me - she started arguments and would punch me in the face. She started fights with her friends too. Knock em out hair pulling stuff. She never used to be that way. She...

Whose the poofter with the gay fuzzy hat and silver nail polish on? All of you dudes look like you should be sarging at Church & Wellesley, especially the effeminate homo in the pink shirt.

Yeah, you never know, a few weeks/months down the road, you may cross paths with said chick again, and get in there. I don't burn bridges. I just say 'best of luck' and act like it's no big deal. Then you keep them wondering why you weren't that upset about getting the elbow.

I have stuggled with this in the past, and the bottom line is thinking too much. Don't talk to her expecting that you are going to get anything. Don't go into the mindset that you are trying to seduce her at first. What I do is pretend that I'm talking to a guy at first. Or that I am...

This sh*t doesn't come over night. At least you realise that it's something you want to change. It's a first step, although I would hesitate to tell the woman that you 'dug' her right off the bat. This is a cold approach and in my experience are the hardest. I actually don't bother with...

Read the bible.

That's right. However, the right girl will pursue you. I've made girls pursue me in the past. It's not that common, but it does happen.

Go nuts, just don't fall in love with her.

Stop it. LOL. I have my first real 'date' in a very long time (I just dumped a girl last week who I was seeing for about a year) and I don't want to over-analyse everything! I'm just going to do what feels natural. She has a very high IL so I could show up pissed and puking and not...

Ok, I get it, Emos are those goth-type faggots who get mad when I talk about sports and have their gay haircuts matted down on their heads and they have absolutely no muscle tone or any penchant for athleticism whatsoever. Yeah, I just call them girls.

Duh.....

Are you gay? You sound like one.

Yeah, she's getting jail time, although at the moment, I called her a couple times since last week, and she won't answer the phone, nor call back. So I e-mailed her and she basically said she won't allow herself to be spoken to in the manner that I spoke to her. So basically, in her mindset...

I dunno, I'm getting an awful lot of accusations of being a bad guy with women issues and accused of being a player. I'm even getting alot of disdain from certain women, although keep in mind, alot of the women where I'm from are hardcore lefty-feminazis. I'm getting alot of interference...

As for wyldfire's response, I've always tried to conduct myself in the manner she describes. However, I've found that it's an open invitation for women, and people in general, to try and see how far they can push my boundaries. Perhaps I'm missing something. But I've had plenty of people...

Thanks for the input Kev. At this point though, I don't think she has respect for me. If she can't respect my wishes to be left in peace while I deal with my loss.....well.......that's just not right at all.

Tough one. I still suck at this. The only time I'm ok with cold approaches if it's a girl I've seen a few times in my neighbourhood and she's given me a few IOIs.

Problem is, now she's turned around and made me out to be the bad guy, as women are so inclined to do. See, I told her to go f*ck herself and said she needed mental help. Now shes making it out like I'm the abuser and won't talk to me. So somehow I'm the bastard in all of this.

Um, this thread is 2 years old. Why bump it back up?