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yeah i hear what you're saying, she wanted it though, the first time. she cleanly accepted outside the lifts, i just ejected half way through the kiss to stop the lift door closing and maybe she got bad feelings from it.. cos when we got into the lift and i tried again she was reluctant so...

no it's a different one, that one i had met already before, this one i met off facebook, first meet. i should mention also she cancelled last min 2 fridays ago and didn't counter offer another time. she said twice on this date 'i came out because i cancelled last time and didn't want to do it...

i met a girl off facebook just now, first date, cool date, i took her to a rooftop of a building on campus, should have kiss closed there but missed my chance, then we walked back to the lifts i kissed her there while waiting for the lift, then i pulled away mid kiss as the lift behind us opened...

i hear what you're saying man, i'm literally ok with just not replying and not speaking to her again. my question is do you think she's lying? the facts i have are from 3am to 6.54pm on whatsapp no activity, that wast the last seen. i sent a text at 1.30pm it delivered straight away, so...

even if she couldn't see her screen she knows she's seeing me today so should have text me this from a work colleagues phoen or something.. it's plausible she couldn't get the number from the phone if it was smashed but unlikely.. if it was a blank screen then that does not explain how she...

well she texts me finally tell me what you think of this, could be true, could be a lie.. god knows. what would you do? 'heyy so sorry! my phone screen got damaged, i just got my phone back again so couldnt communicate all day' then immediately after: 'what about another day? except...

well i've been proven right she's a flake and it's a trap.. she wasn't being genuine! she just wants me to chase and it's really rude that she hasn't even texted me to cancel in advance. ok fair enough she left her phone at home today but that's still inexcusable.

but technically speaking this is only 1 flake? we never agreed a time for saturday originally.. she said she'd confirm the next day and said she couldn't and iddn't counter offer till fri night. i think it's the manner how she handled this situation that 1 flake is too much? don't you think...

but didn't i just tell you all this on saturday?? you said to me that i was overthinking it and not to worry and it's not a trick/trap when she counter offered for monday.. well i've been proved right! sorry it was harry who said i was overthinking it and it's not a trap. i told you she was a...

you really think she's gona answer her phone? no way.. she's 23 they don't answer their phone ever unless it's gf's. by calling she doesn't know what i want to say.. by texting i say what i need to and that's it. you're on the assumption she'll pick up the phone, young girls these days never...

even if she apologizes now and counter offers i shouldn't accept should i? i think she has to work harder to win back my favour.. i just find the fact she hasn't contacted me in advance as disrespectful.. ok she forgot her phone, still when she saw the message at 6.54pm she should have text me...

what annoys me most is why did she offer monday evening when clearly it's the busiest working day of the week? like i dont get these chicks.. they offer the most likely day they'll flake as a counter offer, is the onus on me to anticipate that and offer tues or weds instead? even if she texts...

ok on Sat i texted back, kept it simple and safe, stated the time where to meet as in the road to meet on. 'sure let's meet on x road at 8.45pm, cool? hope you feel better soon'.. she texts back 'plan! sounds good!' i text back 'cool' and i leave it. fasst forward to today, monday. i text her...

ok point taken. well she replied.. but i think it's a trap maybe what do you think? i have to make it clear though i was applying the 2 strikes rule and got itchy fingers.. i text her this afternoon asking how she was feeling 'how you feeling today..any better?' see this is on the...

let's be real though.. if she had high IL what i wrote wouldn't have put her off and she'd play along right? so me thinking she had it after we met has convinced that it was nothing more than attention seeking and validation seeking behaviour from her to give her attention.. i.e. she feigned...

could i just not keep it more simple and just ask her out stating date and time after the first msg? what you wrote above wouldn't work here in europe, the humour is very different.. we'd think what you wrote above as very cheesy and not funny, but that's american humour it's just different...

it's more that i respected the fact she comes from a rich family and her dad could easily spoil her but she decided to work 3 basic jobs to pay for her own stuff.. that's admirable, i mean she worked at a clothes store at the mall, and another 2 other places.. her family is loaded, her dad was...

i see what you're saying, most guys will next girls with low IL rather than just keep trying even if the probability is low. i just feel though, that because i thought she was gf material and had high IL i should next her.. reason being, she may be a quality girl but im not gona get to f her...

she won't call, remember young girl 23, she'll text a message saying 'how are you?' or something.. to check to see if i'm still interested.. that's at best i can expect. i will ignore it and not reply. this may lead to her following up to suggest to meet like 'hey im better now so we can go for...

i spent 2 hours talking to her on our first meet, i built the rapport there.. i made my excuses to leave before closing to go have dinner with my 'room mates'.. she should have already been highly interested i ran all my moves i usually do on a first date.. i suspect she just wanted attention...