should i just next her?

[pete101]

not so sure man. What you texted her was a pretty big attraction killer. Besides, more often than not, when you meet a girl she has medium IL, so dont do that again, and do not try to 'capture' her by offering several places to meet, and do not be so over eager and you'll be fine.
Besides, she was not that flakey really, so stop the evilminded thinking.

And one more thing, do not take it so personally. As many ppl say here, dating etc is a numbers game, so the norm is to get several numbers, and just bang one girl while all the rest either flake or ignore you, so its not such a big deal.

STOP thinking she was damn gf material for god's sake. You can start thinking that once you've had several dates, lets say around 10. Jeeezzzz...

In any case, if you had done it better...you may have had a chance, keep that in mind.

ok point taken.

well she replied.. but i think it's a trap maybe what do you think?

i have to make it clear though i was applying the 2 strikes rule and got itchy fingers.. i text her this afternoon asking how she was feeling 'how you feeling today..any better?'

see this is on the premise she is indeed ill. then i deleted her number, it was over in my mind and i wasn't going to utilise it any further.

she text me just now at 11.20pm:

her: 'sorry for late reply: super busy at work... a bit better just topping with smoothies/vitamins.. Sure monday?'

obviously i'm not going to be an idiot and text back right now and lose even more value.. it's friday night i should be out etc so i'll reply tomorrow at some point.

do you think she's being genuine or just wants me to say yes for monday and then flake on me?

 

[pyros]

ok point taken.

well she replied.. but i think it's a trap maybe what do you think?

i have to make it clear though i was applying the 2 strikes rule and got itchy fingers.. i text her this afternoon asking how she was feeling 'how you feeling today..any better?'

see this is on the premise she is indeed ill. then i deleted her number, it was over in my mind and i wasn't going to utilise it any further.

she text me just now at 11.20pm:

her: 'sorry for late reply: super busy at work... a bit better just topping with smoothies/vitamins.. Sure monday?'

obviously i'm not going to be an idiot and text back right now and lose even more value.. it's friday night i should be out etc so i'll reply tomorrow at some point.

do you think she's being genuine or just wants me to say yes for monday and then flake on me?

just go out with her, do not repeat your mistakes ever again, escalate and if things do not flow nicely, forget about her, dammnnn...

 

[Harry Wilmington]

well she replied.. but i think it's a trap maybe what do you think? i have to make it clear though i was applying the 2 strikes rule and got itchy fingers.. i text her this afternoon asking how she was feeling 'how you feeling today..any better?' see this is on the premise she is indeed ill. then i deleted her number, it was over in my mind and i wasn't going to utilise it any further. she text me just now at 11.20pm:

her: 'sorry for late reply: super busy at work... a bit better just topping with smoothies/vitamins.. Sure monday?' obviously i'm not going to be an idiot and text back right now and lose even more value.. it's friday night i should be out etc so i'll reply tomorrow at some point. do you think she's being genuine or just wants me to say yes for monday and then flake on me?

I think you're over thinking this. First of all, STOP TEXTING THIS CHICK AND CALL HER. Clearly she doesn't enjoy texting if she's waiting this long to get back to you. Plus, in the time you waited for a response, you could have easily had a 5 min conversation with her about this whole thing.

Second: when you respond back to her (in whatever way you choose to do so), set up everything at that time. "Hey so and so, Monday works great! Let's meet up at x-place, does (time A) or (time B) work best for you? (She tells you time that works) great! I'll meet you/pick you up at (time that worked for her), see you then!" Then, don't talk to her again until the day/time of the date - this means no conversational messages, no calls, and - most importantly - no hitting her up to re-confirm. Just show up at the agreed upon time on Monday and go on the date.

As for your worries/questions: no, it's not a trap; yes, she's being genuine; and unfortunately the only way you can tell if she'll flake is if she actually flakes. Don't look at is as a bad thing, though. If she doesn't flake, GREAT, you have a date! If she does flake, GREAT, you know she's not interested and didn't have to waste any of your money!

 

[pete101]

not so sure man. What you texted her was a pretty big attraction killer. Besides, more often than not, when you meet a girl she has medium IL, so dont do that again, and do not try to 'capture' her by offering several places to meet, and do not be so over eager and you'll be fine.
Besides, she was not that flakey really, so stop the evilminded thinking.

And one more thing, do not take it so personally. As many ppl say here, dating etc is a numbers game, so the norm is to get several numbers, and just bang one girl while all the rest either flake or ignore you, so its not such a big deal.

STOP thinking she was damn gf material for god's sake. You can start thinking that once you've had several dates, lets say around 10. Jeeezzzz...

In any case, if you had done it better...you may have had a chance, keep that in mind.

ok on Sat i texted back, kept it simple and safe, stated the time where to meet as in the road to meet on. 'sure let's meet on x road at 8.45pm, cool? hope you feel better soon'.. she texts back 'plan! sounds good!' i text back 'cool'

and i leave it. fasst forward to today, monday.

i text her where to meet exactly on the road (it's a big long ass road with loads of shops etc) no response. 'meet me outside x shop on y road at 8.45pm tonight, ok? see you later.'

i check her whatsapp and she hasn't been on it since 3am this morning! which tells me 2 things she was out late, also she may have either lost or left her phone. she's always checking it so the 'last seen' is always updating the fact it hasn't tells me she's left her phone.

given girls are surgically attached to their phone she would have at least checked it a few times today so the last seen would be more current of time. how this affects me? it means she hasn't seen my text yet, it delivered i got a delivery notice but i'm pretty certain she's bound to have got a ton of whatsapp msgs since 3am so would be bound to check it meaning the phone is def lost or she left it at home.

now she knows we're supposed to meet at 8.45pm in exactly 2 hours time so you'd think she'd make an effort to get home to find out wher we're meeting? given i didn;t say exactly where on the parade of shops to meet.

what do i do? i dont want to go down there waste gas money and time takes me 40mins to drive there.

i'm just sitting and waiting till i get a response before i make a move.

this is disrespect right?

i'm pretty certain she's forgot her phone or it's lost because of the whatsapp last seen of 3am, if that changes in the next couple hours and i still haven't got a response then i suspected a flake originally and was right.

does this count as one flake? i'm not going to contact her again till she contacts me.. cos it just shows i'm not a priority on her agenda.

i feel if she had high or any IL she'd be lookign forward to seeing me and therefore make an effort to get home to clarify where we're meeting.

ok her whatsapp has updated to 6.54pm last seen now, meaning she would have seen the text message by now. if i don't get a reply i'm not going down even though i made it clear where we're meeting.. i guess that 'ok?' bit at the end let's her flake.

 

[pete101]

what annoys me most is why did she offer monday evening when clearly it's the busiest working day of the week?

like i dont get these chicks.. they offer the most likely day they'll flake as a counter offer, is the onus on me to anticipate that and offer tues or weds instead?

even if she texts me now to counter offer another day i have the right mind to just ignore her and not bother.. because me agreeing again will just tell her she can treat me how she wants and i'll take it.

i text her 'are we still meeting tonight?' but she's not been on whatsapp since, last seen is still 6.54pm god knows what she's doing.. she knows she's gona be busy on monday so why the f offer this evening to meet if she knows she prob can't make it? so pointless.

it's same with this other HB i'm linking tomorrrow, she's flaked on me once last min. didn't even counter offer just said sorry she couldn't make it. in fairness that one is a meet from facebook, she suggested today also, i said i was busy an offered tomorrow or weds.. but i know for a fact if she's working on either of these days (agency tells her on the day to go in) i know she'll be tired and won't come out so i told her straight up i'll confirm with her on the day.. if she's not working then we'll meet otherwise not..

that one did the same thing too i.e. offering a day she knows she's working and going to be tired yet still offers anyway.. what the f is wrong wtih these chicks offering days they know they wont probably make?

the one this thread was about is the reason i was in a bad mood on friday and ended up ending it with a ton of potential meets.. i get really angry dealing with flaky girls.

it's just rude that she hasn't even contacted me to let me know she can't make it.. tbh even if i followed the above advice and originally said meet x place at y time so she can't back out by ignoring the confirmation text.. like she has now. im not going to show up and get stood up, even if i did what harry said above i'd just look silly and wasting my time and gas money getting changed just to be stood up.

i should just next this chick shouldn't i? why give her another chance to flake on me.. it's just disrespectful.

even if she offers tomorrow or weds why should i agree?

 

[pete101]

even if she apologizes now and counter offers i shouldn't accept should i?

i think she has to work harder to win back my favour..

i just find the fact she hasn't contacted me in advance as disrespectful.. ok she forgot her phone, still when she saw the message at 6.54pm she should have text me to say she couldn't make it. god knows what she'd doing right now, sleeping, who knows.. she was out till 3am.

i find this disrespectful to the highest level. and my assumption was right she was a flake.

 

[pete101]

I think you're over thinking this. First of all, STOP TEXTING THIS CHICK AND CALL HER. Clearly she doesn't enjoy texting if she's waiting this long to get back to you. Plus, in the time you waited for a response, you could have easily had a 5 min conversation with her about this whole thing.

Second: when you respond back to her (in whatever way you choose to do so), set up everything at that time. "Hey so and so, Monday works great! Let's meet up at x-place, does (time A) or (time B) work best for you? (She tells you time that works) great! I'll meet you/pick you up at (time that worked for her), see you then!" Then, don't talk to her again until the day/time of the date - this means no conversational messages, no calls, and - most importantly - no hitting her up to re-confirm. Just show up at the agreed upon time on Monday and go on the date.

As for your worries/questions: no, it's not a trap; yes, she's being genuine; and unfortunately the only way you can tell if she'll flake is if she actually flakes. Don't look at is as a bad thing, though. If she doesn't flake, GREAT, you have a date! If she does flake, GREAT, you know she's not interested and didn't have to waste any of your money!

you really think she's gona answer her phone? no way.. she's 23 they don't answer their phone ever unless it's gf's. by calling she doesn't know what i want to say.. by texting i say what i need to and that's it.

you're on the assumption she'll pick up the phone, young girls these days never pick up their phones.. so all you leave is a trail of miss calls.

 

[pyros]

Yes, you must next her and not contact her again. Why? because she is not interested, this is the source of all your problems.
The majority of women nowadays do not have morals, honor, or manners. This is why they flake, lead you on, confuse you etc, and they dont even feel bad about it.

For the next girl try to keep this in mind: if you have to post here more than twice about a girl before you bang her, she is not interested and you should send her to hell. Its difficult because you want to have secs with her etc, but if you dont, you will suffer forever and ever.

I think all the members here have been in your same position a few times, but what everybody learns is that if a girl is giving you trouble, she is not worth it, not even to bang her. A bit of trouble is ok, one flake? well, ok, but no more.

 

[pyros]

you really think she's gona answer her phone? no way.. she's 23 they don't answer their phone ever unless it's gf's. by calling she doesn't know what i want to say.. by texting i say what i need to and that's it.

you're on the assumption she'll pick up the phone, young girls these days never pick up their phones.. so all you leave is a trail of miss calls.

they dont pick up the phone...IF THEY ARE NOT INTO YOU. Dumbass.

 

[pete101]

Yes, you must next her and not contact her again. Why? because she is not interested, this is the source of all your problems.
The majority of women nowadays do not have morals, honor, or manners. This is why they flake, lead you on, confuse you etc, and they dont even feel bad about it.

For the next girl try to keep this in mind: if you have to post here more than twice about a girl before you bang her, she is not interested and you should send her to hell. Its difficult because you want to have secs with her etc, but if you dont, you will suffer forever and ever.

I think all the members here have been in your same position a few times, but what everybody learns is that if a girl is giving you trouble, she is not worth it, not even to bang her. A bit of trouble is ok, one flake? well, ok, but no more.

but didn't i just tell you all this on saturday??

you said to me that i was overthinking it and not to worry and it's not a trick/trap when she counter offered for monday.. well i've been proved right! sorry it was harry who said i was overthinking it and it's not a trap.

i told you she was a flake and it was a trap. every message she sent from the beginning i suspected she was a flake. even the counter offer, she just wants to lead me on so i keep asking her out. f that.

 

[pete101]

Yes, you must next her and not contact her again. Why? because she is not interested, this is the source of all your problems.
The majority of women nowadays do not have morals, honor, or manners. This is why they flake, lead you on, confuse you etc, and they dont even feel bad about it.

For the next girl try to keep this in mind: if you have to post here more than twice about a girl before you bang her, she is not interested and you should send her to hell. Its difficult because you want to have secs with her etc, but if you dont, you will suffer forever and ever.

I think all the members here have been in your same position a few times, but what everybody learns is that if a girl is giving you trouble, she is not worth it, not even to bang her. A bit of trouble is ok, one flake? well, ok, but no more.

but technically speaking this is only 1 flake? we never agreed a time for saturday originally.. she said she'd confirm the next day and said she couldn't and iddn't counter offer till fri night.

i think it's the manner how she handled this situation that 1 flake is too much? don't you think. this is majorly rude and disrespectful.

if i see her again next week i'll just ignore her.

 

[pete101]

I think you're over thinking this. First of all, STOP TEXTING THIS CHICK AND CALL HER. Clearly she doesn't enjoy texting if she's waiting this long to get back to you. Plus, in the time you waited for a response, you could have easily had a 5 min conversation with her about this whole thing.

Second: when you respond back to her (in whatever way you choose to do so), set up everything at that time. "Hey so and so, Monday works great! Let's meet up at x-place, does (time A) or (time B) work best for you? (She tells you time that works) great! I'll meet you/pick you up at (time that worked for her), see you then!" Then, don't talk to her again until the day/time of the date - this means no conversational messages, no calls, and - most importantly - no hitting her up to re-confirm. Just show up at the agreed upon time on Monday and go on the date.

As for your worries/questions: no, it's not a trap; yes, she's being genuine; and unfortunately the only way you can tell if she'll flake is if she actually flakes. Don't look at is as a bad thing, though. If she doesn't flake, GREAT, you have a date! If she does flake, GREAT, you know she's not interested and didn't have to waste any of your money!

well i've been proven right she's a flake and it's a trap.. she wasn't being genuine! she just wants me to chase and it's really rude that she hasn't even texted me to cancel in advance.

ok fair enough she left her phone at home today but that's still inexcusable.

 

[pete101]

they dont pick up the phone...IF THEY ARE NOT INTO YOU. Dumbass.

well she texts me finally tell me what you think of this, could be true, could be a lie.. god knows. what would you do?

'heyy so sorry! my phone screen got damaged, i just got my phone back again so couldnt communicate all day'
then immediately after: 'what about another day? except wednesday'

see i dont trust her now, always has some excuse.. delivery, ill, busy at work, phone screen damaged.. it's one excuse after another.

do i give her benefit of doubt?

i dont know if it's true or not.. all i know is i saw at 6.54pm she was on whatsapp last seen.. and now 9pm she's on it then texts me.. i dont know where she got it fixed if it's even true.

i dont know if i should give her benefit of doubt.. she'll just flake on me again. most likely. she hasn't even offered me another day. i think i'll just ignore her.

even if it's true that her phone screen was damaged so couldn't use her phone i doubt apple would have fixed it so quickly in 3 hours? or if she went to the shop i know of then maybe.

she'll just hold it against me if i ignore her like i dont believe her excuse.. if it's true, if it's not she'll still hold it against me.

do i give her benefit of doubt?

 

[pete101]

even if she couldn't see her screen she knows she's seeing me today so should have text me this from a work colleagues phoen or something.. it's plausible she couldn't get the number from the phone if it was smashed but unlikely.. if it was a blank screen then that does not explain how she managed to be on whatsapp at 3am then again at 6.54pm.. i suspect it's bull****.

if your screen is cracked or smashed you wouldn't be able to access whatsapp even via notifications.. i think this screams of bull?

 

[pyros]

would you STOP INTERACTING WITH THIS WOMAN? FOR GOD'S SAKE!!

delete her, erase her, block her, and stop writting about her.

Im not gonna reply to you again, if you want to set yourself on fire, go ahead and keep talking to her.

 

[apprenticedj]

Petey, I'm definitely late to this thread but I'm with pyros. You cannot, no way, no how, agree to another "meeting" with her. She'll flake on you again no doubt.

She's not interested. PERIOD. I know this sounds rough but let me tell you about a lesson I learned the hard way.

I had major oneitis for this one chick back in my AFC days, I literally did everything she wanted. Starbucks? Sure I'll get you one. Jamba juice? Coming right up! We hung out at the park a few times and she would let me suck her titties, feel her up and down but would never go any further. Couldn't blame her, we were in a public park. I just knew I would be smashing that if I got her alone so I asked her to come over to which she replied "Can't wait!!".

The day came and I cleaned my place top to bottom, washed my sheets, even cleaned my car so it would be spotless when I picked her up. Had everything planned to get her at 6 PM, go grab some dinner and come back to my place for drinks. Sent her a morning text attempting to confirm. No response. 3 PM rolls around still no response. 4 PM I text her again, no response. 6 PM I decide to call her, STRAIGHT TO VOICEMAIL!

I get a text the next day about her phone dying, blah, blah, blah. She counter offered another day which I agreed to. New day, same story to a T. Flaked hard. This time I went nuclear on her and we never spoke again.

Your "girl" is just the same. Flakey b*tch plain and simple. It's an epidemic these days, like a game they love to play. They will play you over and over again. Now I wouldn't advise saying anything or blowing up like I did, I regret that because it looked weak and childish. I would simply respond with "Not sure, I'll let you know"

That would the end with her. I would never ask her out again nor would I agree to any time she offers. It's done, she'll only flake again and you'll right back to square one. The veterans on this site know their sh*t, they've been flaked on before, it happens. MOVE ON PIMPIN!

 

[pete101]

Petey, I'm definitely late to this thread but I'm with pyros. You cannot, no way, no how, agree to another "meeting" with her. She'll flake on you again no doubt.

She's not interested. PERIOD. I know this sounds rough but let me tell you about a lesson I learned the hard way.

I had major oneitis for this one chick back in my AFC days, I literally did everything she wanted. Starbucks? Sure I'll get you one. Jamba juice? Coming right up! We hung out at the park a few times and she would let me suck her titties, feel her up and down but would never go any further. Couldn't blame her, we were in a public park. I just knew I would be smashing that if I got her alone so I asked her to come over to which she replied "Can't wait!!".

The day came and I cleaned my place top to bottom, washed my sheets, even cleaned my car so it would be spotless when I picked her up. Had everything planned to get her at 6 PM, go grab some dinner and come back to my place for drinks. Sent her a morning text attempting to confirm. No response. 3 PM rolls around still no response. 4 PM I text her again, no response. 6 PM I decide to call her, STRAIGHT TO VOICEMAIL!

I get a text the next day about her phone dying, blah, blah, blah. She counter offered another day which I agreed to. New day, same story to a T. Flaked hard. This time I went nuclear on her and we never spoke again.

Your "girl" is just the same. Flakey b*tch plain and simple. It's an epidemic these days, like a game they love to play. They will play you over and over again. Now I wouldn't advise saying anything or blowing up like I did, I regret that because it looked weak and childish. I would simply respond with "Not sure, I'll let you know"

That would the end with her. I would never ask her out again nor would I agree to any time she offers. It's done, she'll only flake again and you'll right back to square one. The veterans on this site know their sh*t, they've been flaked on before, it happens. MOVE ON PIMPIN!

i hear what you're saying man, i'm literally ok with just not replying and not speaking to her again.

my question is do you think she's lying?

the facts i have are from 3am to 6.54pm on whatsapp no activity, that wast the last seen. i sent a text at 1.30pm it delivered straight away, so that rules out the no battery excuse as the phone was on. at 6.54pm if her phone screen was damaged i dont know how she could have got it fixed there and then without an appointment, also how would she be able to access her notifications for whatsapp to be even 'last seen'. then when i text at 7.30pm asking if we're still meeting tonight it delivered straight away meaning phone was on.

the most plausible reason is she left her phone at home cos she was out late last night and didn't see it till 6.54pm then took a nap woke at 9pm then texted me.

is it even plausible that she's telling the truth? i want to give her benefit of doubt as if i do next her.. i reckon i may cave next week and text her to meet. if i'm going to do that, then i might as well try one more time.

i just feel her excuse is BS from my general thoughts.. like ok.. what if it is true, her counter offer isn't really a counter offer is it? it's a fake one.. she shoudl state a specific day to make it up to me even if it wasn't her fault her screen wasn't working.

she should have somehow made an effort to contact me today to let me know, i dont know how but i feel she should have done more.

 

[_sideways_]

lets be real here

When are people "sick" or with a bug? Lol

When you dont want to go to work....or meet a friend...or getting out of any situation you want out of.
Not to hurt feelings here but, you should have replied with ok. "Im sending you healing thoughts..." and then wait.

Be honest guys...we all have been a little sick with a runny nose but we still made it out to a bar or event.

What if she was sleeping with some dude all these times shes flaked, and youre just not living your life meeting other girl, then when she wipes the cvm of her face and finally has her hands free, thats when she gets her jollies to mess with your bead? Lmao

Because youre jumping through hoops and not even a hand job to show for it

 

[The_411]

The problem is that you are too involved with details. It simply comes down to how she acts. She's acting like someone who has zero interest. When a girl is interested she'll be hovering over her phone waiting for your call/text. When a girl is interested she's worried you'll flake and she'll make sure she's available.

Anytime you have to fish for answers or meaning when you are communicating with a woman it means she's not interested.

Interested women will respond to men they are attracted to and they make other men wait.

 

[pete101]

The problem is that you are too involved with details. It simply comes down to how she acts. She's acting like someone who has zero interest. When a girl is interested she'll be hovering over her phone waiting for your call/text. When a girl is interested she's worried you'll flake and she'll make sure she's available.

Anytime you have to fish for answers or meaning when you are communicating with a woman it means she's not interested.

Interested women will respond to men they are attracted to and they make other men wait.

you're absolutely right. i thought it over, she doesn't deserve the benefit of doubt or a reply. so i ignored her text and not responded.

it was too fishy to begin with, offering maybe saturday then saying she had a delivery and needed to confirm next day, then said she was ill and didn't want to pass on her bug (yet she was healthy enough to go partying over the weekend) even if it was true she doesn't deserve my attention anymore. i'll just ignore her if i see her again in same coffee place.