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I should have continued as we were despite her being startled by cars coming by lol I let her go and leave too easily

Yes so i need to have some success soon before i become so jaded

Yeah i realised now this was inevitable i hadn't been on a date in months i have been so busy working had no time. Building a business that is flourishing now i have the luxury of stepping back and not needing to take on every client and can set the terms of when i work. Coming in with no...

This has had me thinking in general: People keep talking about how it is my fault due to neediness or insecurity which i accept and have to own but if the shoe was on the other foot and im the other guy she likes and she doesn't do these things to is that still character traits you want in...

The more i think about what happened was pointing towards her seeing a guy before me hence why she was late and also at 10pm at night saying when we were getting back as a friend wants may visit (a friend = guy, my friend = girl) who is visiting that late on a saturday night! Essentially if i...

So i clearly failed the sh*t test what would have one done instead to pass it?

But why on the date is she asking me when she can see me again to just 180'ing? It was good enough to get her half naked in the car and to say that, to the next day completely u turning To be honest it wasnt going the way i hoped from her being late esp after what happened the day before which...

Thanks for this this sheds some light. We didn't actually kiss she wouldnt let me which i thought was weird yet would let me play with her tits and suck them and if i pushed more would have gotten further as we were in the car fooling around outside her friends she was staying only a passing...

Yeah i get you im focusing on one thing you are talking in general But how do i kill the neediness if i have anxiety? Is just getting more options the only solution?

How is that relevant to why she is U turning on me the next day? I didnt reply to her 3 times

I was only thinking about step 8, 9 with this one all others i dont think about this stuff as i dont envisage them this way

I dont think it is unreasonable for me to want to f them over if im constantly getting led on to just get u turned the next day It isnt uncommon for guys to become heartless after having their heart broken or what not, we become cold hearted and cheat and not care as we are still damaged by...

My question is why are they all over you the night before then U turn the next day? Fine the things above you say are true but like usually it manifests itself with them not interested at all that is fine i can handle that but not when they seem all into you then just do a u turn the next day

No i agree i dont hide it well at all So how do i fix the neediness desperation if i suffer from anxiety? Im always coming across nervous even if im feeling confident

The real question is there explanations why it keeps happening the U turn Maybe they can sense the desperation and it not being congruent on the outside so buyers remorse the next day They dont feel the same way the night before. Like sometimes i just prefer them not interested at all cos i...

1. We didnt have sex she wouldnt let me kiss her but let me take her bra off and play and suck with her tits i did find this odd tbh. 2. It was only this one other chicks i see i dont have these thoughts im only trying to fvck them so dont care if i dont but like the U turning does confuse me...

Why wouldnt i be traumatized by this type of thing being led on them U turned the next day? Especially if it keeps happening throughout my life

This is fair

I mean for 1 my game isnt tight enough so that is clear reason for buyers remorse. They tell me like 'i dont have feelings for you and never did' but the night before we were getting naked you kissing me all over and im sucking your tits and you are like 'when can i see you next' I tried to...

Are there any definitive posts on here or threads that explain why women show super high interest in you the night before then the next day have buyers remorse and say they have no feelings and never had any? This has happened way too many times in my life for it to be coincidence and i need to...