1 min they all over you next day they say they never had feelings. Explanation?

[pete101]

This line of thought is how you can become (more) bitter, which will only yield you poorer and poorer results.

The whole "I want to f them over before they f me over" also shows you're already going down that path.

Yes so i need to have some success soon before i become so jaded

 

[pete101]

This is more from old-school ASF-perspective, for sh1ts and giggles:

Trying to f-close, but not being able to plow trough LMR, is one way of failing a sh1ttest and killing the attraction.
Seemed to also break your frame(I am the prize), considering all the clingines you did show.
This was a good learning experience, now go fvck ten other women before spending second thought about her.

Remember it's always much easier to start from a fresh chick than trying to salvage situation that ended up going south and with the next chick you will always be tiny bit more skilled than with the previous one.

I should have continued as we were despite her being startled by cars coming by lol

I let her go and leave too easily

 

[BPH]

Yes so i need to have some success soon before i become so jaded

I'm going to strongly advise you to take a big step back from all this and look critically at yourself.

You don't "deserve" sex, nobody does. Get rid of that mentality right now. You want to be good with women? You have to genuinely enjoy women - womEN as a whole, not whatever womAN is getting this reaction out of you.

I have a cousin like this; he was in the friend zone with this chick for a long time and couldn't get out. When he finally did, he decided to continue sleeping with her "out of spite", leading her on and never committing to a relationship. I'm not sure when that ended, but he hasn't had sex in a year now.

If you wanna be like him, keep doing what you're doing.

And before you do it, I don't need you replying to this message and answering the questions I'm posing here. Look critically at yourself, and decide what needs to change.

Would YOU f*** you? Deep down you probably already have a good idea why these women keep switching up after they meet you. What do you think your weakness is? Are you bad in bed? Are you texting/calling these girls too much afterwards? Do you not look or act like you do over the phone/online? You probably already know the answer.

So just turn off the damn computer, stop frantically replying multiple times to comments at 4:00 AM, and improve the things you have control over.

 

[Bingo-Player]

Yes so i need to have some success soon before i become so jaded

Doesn't even necessarily need to be success simply increasing the volume of women you interact with and sleep with will solve most of a mans women troubles by default

I've slept with 6 women in the last 5 or so months , none have been exceptional quality and most have kind of been easy pickings

But its improved my mindset massively compared to last year where I went on a 6 month dry spell I'm a lot calmer and composed around women and they can sense it

Last year I can remember approaching girls and being like an awkward school boy , thinking how am I going to get her to open her legs for me saying stupid stuff to try and impress them

Now I realise i don't NEED sex from women or anything else really , it would be fun but I can take it or leave it my life Is going to continue being good regardless

I think once you get to this point it becomes like catnip for women

"why isnt he trying to sleep with me" , " does he even find me attractive"

This is where you need to get them

 

[p_1337]

Doesn't even necessarily need to be success simply increasing the volume of women you interact with and sleep with will solve most of a mans women troubles by default

I've slept with 6 women in the last 5 or so months , none have been exceptional quality and most have kind of been easy pickings

But its improved my mindset massively compared to last year where I went on a 6 month dry spell I'm a lot calmer and composed around women and they can sense it

Last year I can remember approaching girls and being like an awkward school boy , thinking how am I going to get her to open her legs for me saying stupid stuff to try and impress them

Now I realise i don't NEED sex from women or anything else really , it would be fun but I can take it or leave it my life Is going to continue being good regardless

I think once you get to this point it becomes like catnip for women

"why isnt he trying to sleep with me" , " does he even find me attractive"

This is where you need to get them

This does work (depending on the circumstances) especially if the girl is showing a fair amount of interest and putting effort into the conversation (i.e. you meet her out or for a date). Otherwise (but even in those cases) your lack of 'trying' can be misinterpreted as shyness/not having game -- or they just think you aren't interested (and women never make the first move).

 

[Learning Curve]

But why on the date is she asking me when she can see me again to just 180'ing? It was good enough to get her half naked in the car and to say that, to the next day completely u turning

Welcome to 2024. The new era of dating. the 180'ing is happening every single day to everyone who dates. You need to adapt and evolve.

The nail in the coffin was weeks before when the convo was going stale and she was slow to respond + talking to so many guys. Just cos she was feigning interest before the signs were still there.

Listen, her being slow to respond and talking to other guys it's part of a woman choosing behaviour. Naturally women choose the strongest and most abundant guy. That's it. This is the truth. You have to embrace it and change. Stop being affected by her behaviour and find your purpose in life and focus on building an empire.

You are focusing too much when she will reply or not, that's a waste of time. If this was a chick that maybe there was something special i would have probably understood to a certain extend why you care. Which even then you need to be able to measure your behaviour.

This chick is nothing to you.

Now i have to process what happened, i hadn't been on a date for months so was out of practise didn't have options this was inevitable whether she initially liked me or not.

Time to practice.

I didnt like the fact she met someone else before me as who likes being treated as a back up option and even if i was the other guy who she liked more would i really want to be with someone like this?

You are too soft. If you continue ike this, you will get broken apart in pieces from the real world. There is what we call the "jungle" of life. And you are either the lion or the rabbit. Time to toughen up mate.

People keep talking about how it is my fault due to neediness or insecurity which i accept and have to own but if the shoe was on the other foot and im the other guy she likes and she doesn't do these things to is that still character traits you want in someone?

It's not about being your fault or not. It's about your reaction to this circumstance.

It does not matter what she does. All that matters is how you react. Women will be women. Flaking, cheating, dissapearing, ghosting etc.

There is nothing you can do. All you can do is adapt to each woman's behaviour, change your approach, and re-allign your focus.

 

[TheGrindEqualsHappiness]

I would also encourage more positive growth oriented mindset here:

It after all is all a game and you just have to learn to play it.
Every time you play reflect back and improve upon your experiences.

I can somewhat relate from my own experiences two decades ago. I used to be good looking and got easily positive reactions in the start. But when I opened my mouth and demonstrated my insecure, anxious and shy personality, usually it all went to sh1tter
Thanks to then awesome people in mASF I understood that it's only game. I also found out that with each repetition I got better, less anxious and smoother and game got thrilling and fun.

So get your reps in. Focus on attraction game in the begining. Try all kinds of crazy C&F stuff to figure out what you can get away with and to keep it fun and light hearted.

Also remember that if finding a girfriend/LTR is your thing, you only need one keeper. So your goal is to screen chicks all the time to figure out if they are kind of person you would like to spend time with. To be honest, only small percentage is going to be. But the rest will be awesome practice material anyway.