Until man has got in shape and started earning decent money, he shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on gender dynamics

[SmoothSmooth]

WHAT THESE PUAs don’t tell you is that when a man meets a woman criteria, there is no ‘cold/hot’, there is no ‘she flaked’, there is no ‘what do I text her now’, there is no ‘mixed signals’, she is on her BEST BEHAVIOUR because she doesn’t want to mess things up!!! (except for some very MINOR pull back or **** test which all woman must do to verify your smv).

the game is simple - improve yourself until you meet the criteria that makes women go crazy for a man!

 

[Gamisch]

You need to lock your medicine cabinet. I have no idea what you are trying to say right now lol.

You forgot how your own gf pressured you put a ring on it, and you tried to "game your way out of it"? you never followed up on that thread...


You are waving the bluepilled/ anti REDPILL flag dont you? Until its working against you huh

My medicine is the TRUTH. Try it for once, mr Vanilla Normie.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

The thing that gets me smooth is that guys complain about women being picky and having high standards when those same men have high standards themselves.

Why are men shocked that a fit woman wants a fit man?
why are men shocked that a woman wants a guy who has the baseline of a car, a nice apartment and job when she has that herself?

You have a lot of men who are just as delusional as the woman they complain about Why would a woman who is an 8 or 9 (I don't believe in 10s) settle for some guy who is a 5 with a dad bod? what because you have a great personality?

water seeks its own level

It's really that simple and incels refuse to accept this, hence they are so furious.

Exactly. And I used to be brainwashed by pua coaches saying looks don’t matter etc etc bro, no girl that spends 2 hours a day sweating in a gym; busting her ass and sticking to a diet, wearing the latest fashion trends and taking sexy pics on holiday doing cool **** with cool people is gonna RESPECT a man that doesn’t do the same! Most these women have their own condos or will get one from daddy, you aren’t gonna impress with your regular 9-5 lifestyle. Men that look at attraction through the lense of ‘game’ have never experienced having women genuinely throw themselves at them and make it easy because the woman views you as a SCARCITY! Needing ‘game’ implies she doesn’t want you to begin with and you are now tryna reverse engineeer the situation into some sort of attraction ha

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Earn respect yes. Respect is not given it is earned.

Being able to express oneself and share your opinion is a different matter. Will he be listened to and taken seriously? No. But he has the right to express.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You forgot how your own gf pressured you put a ring on it, and you tried to "game your way out of it"? you never followed up on that thread...


You are waving the bluepilled/ anti REDPILL flag dont you? Until its working against you huh

My medicine is the TRUTH. Try it for once, mr Vanilla Normie.

God forbid a girl have so much genuine interest in a guy that she wants to progress the relationship. I do not see how that is a negative thing because last time I checked, this is a dating forum not a bitter rage red pill forum. This site is for progressing your experiences with women not sitting around a Red Pill Campfire and crying about them.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Earn respect yes. Respect is not given it is earned.

"Son, from the day I met you, we didn't always see eye to eye, but since then I've really grown to respect you. And unlike love, respect can't be bought. "

- Homer Simpson

 

[soulforge]

The guy with the highest lay count that I know of is 5ft 5, doesn't have a high school diploma, constantly broke, and chubby.

Must be fukin fatties.

 

[Gamisch]

God forbid a girl have so much genuine interest in a guy that she wants to further the relationship. I do not see how that is a negative thing because last time I checked, this is a dating forum not a bitter rage red pill forum.

Then why would you make a desperate thread asking the same men you've been rebelling against for advice? Why dont you just " go with the flow " if that's the case and put a ring on her finger, assuming yiu vetted her properly and embrace the adventure?????

I'll tell you why; because you are 100% aware of the POSSIBLE consequences of being bluepilled like you are. You know that there's no way in hell or heaven that you are that one dude who'll "defy gravity ". I'd even say (judging how you came up in your OWN thread) that your gf has many ,many red flags and you actually feels like she doesn't even deserves a ring.

A ring is and should be for a EXTREMELY "good woman" ; good background, good character, good job, good body ,good family, good sense of loyalty, good sex, ect all GOOD shyte. If you have such a woman NO WAY you'd be spending time here. Just aint happening.

Ofcourse a woman tries to progress the relationship and tries to force a (bluepilled beta bytch) man(like you) futher into her orbit. You new to the game? I've lost count how many women I've been with , all I know is that NOT A SINGLE ONE did NOT tried to push things further with me.

It was always ME who needed to push the brakes, unless I did fell in love, which happened...5 times in my entire life.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Then why would you make a desperate thread asking the same men you've been rebelling against for advice? Why dont you just " go with the flow " if that's the case and put a ring on her finger, assuming yiu vetted her probably and embrace the adventure?????

Not everyone on this site is a Redpiller or full blown redpiller.

I'll tell you why; because you are 100% aware of the POSSIBLE consequences of being bluepilled like you are. You know that there's no way in hell or heaven that you are that one dude who'll "defy gravity ". I'd even say (judging how you came up in your OWN thread) that your gf has many ,many red flags and you actually feels like she doesn't even deserves a ring.

Who says I bought a ring? Who says I am going to marry her? I just simply made a topic about it.

A ring is and should be for a EXTREMELY "good woman" ; good background, good character, good job, good body ,good family, good sense of loyalty, good sex, ect all GOOD shyte. If you have such a woman NO WAY you'd be spending time here. Just aint happening.

I go on this site to have insightful discussions that I cannot have with my peers. The only issues I have are posters like you that cope off of this site and get all bruised and emotional when someone doesn't agree with them. For example, me and @corrector have disagreements, but we can have an adult conversation without resorting to calling each other BLUE PILLED, making derogatory statements towards our partners, or resorting to other over-emotional actions.

 

[soulforge]

Jeez fukin hell..

Is this like some ground breaking development? Fit sexy girls want to date fit in shape healthy men. Why is this so triggering to people?

By the time you made that lengthy post pushing back on OP, you could have done 20-30 press ups!

Here is the thing, getting rich/wealthy as a man isn't that straight forward, it's can be done, but most men will not become wealthy, that's Facts.

However earning a reasonable income and getting super jacked? That's damn easy.

Imagine your going to live till age 80? That's 80 damn year's!

I'm sure out of those 80 years, you can sacrifice only 2-3 years into getting fit and attractive!

 

[Gamisch]

Not everyone on this site is a Redpiller or full blown redpiller.



Who says I bought a ring? Who says I am going to marry her? I just simply made a topic about it.



I go on this site to have insightful discussions that I cannot have with my peers. The only issues I have are posters like you that cope off of this site and get all bruised and emotional when someone doesn't agree with them. For example, me and @corrector have disagreements, but we can have an adult conversation without resorting to calling each other BLUE PILLED, making derogatory statements towards our partners, or resorting to other over-emotional actions.

Weak men always try to pull in innocent bystanders out of nowhere. Fight your own beefs will you? Leave @corrector out of this. That @sangheilios b*tch does the same, tagging @SW15 because that's the only member left willing to take him somewhat seriously. I'll fight ALONE.

We can have great back and forths , but look: you accuse me of being bruised and bitter..while its the opposite. I'm enlightened and full of love and positive energy. Doesn't mean iam a okidoki nigha who'll swallow his words..nope . Imma say WHATEVER needs ti be said. Its a MAN'S SPACE.

I am like this due to the redpill. And that wasn't always the case, the transition from blue to red LITERALLY hurt me physically.

Because I've been in so many relationships with women that I know how they'll end most of the time. And geuss what? Iam at peace with whatever outcome comes my way. I am also aware that once I am scared to telll a woman how I REALLY feel about her and the relationship I am on the wrong side of the fence: the side if scarcity.

I am doing me more than ever and I'm just warming up bruh. If you wanna have "great discussions " act like a big man for starters, and I'll follow suit .

 

[CornbreadFed]

Jeez fukin hell..

Is this like some ground breaking development? Fit sexy girls want to date fit in shape healthy men. Why is this so triggering to people?

By the time you made that lengthy post pushing back on OP, you could have done 20-30 press ups!

Here is the thing, getting rich/wealthy as a man isn't that straight forward, it's can be done, but most men will not become wealthy, that's Facts.

However earning a reasonable income and getting super jacked? That's damn easy.

Imagine your going to live till age 80? That's 80 damn year's!

I'm sure out of those 80 years, you can sacrifice only 2-3 years into getting fit and attractive!

OP is talking about going after models that can easily date athletes, doctors, actors, and etc. You aren't going to get to that level with a reasonable income and getting jacked.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Jeez fukin hell..

Is this like some ground breaking development? Fit sexy girls want to date fit in shape healthy men. Why is this so triggering to people?

By the time you made that lengthy post pushing back on OP, you could have done 20-30 press ups!

Here is the thing, getting rich/wealthy as a man isn't that straight forward, it's can be done, but most men will not become wealthy, that's Facts.

However earning a reasonable income and getting super jacked? That's damn easy.

Imagine your going to live till age 80? That's 80 damn year's!

I'm sure out of those 80 years, you can sacrifice only 2-3 years into getting fit and attractive!

Jeez fukin hell..

Is this like some ground breaking development? Fit sexy girls want to date fit in shape healthy men. Why is this so triggering to people?

By the time you made that lengthy post pushing back on OP, you could have done 20-30 press ups!

Here is the thing, getting rich/wealthy as a man isn't that straight forward, it's can be done, but most men will not become wealthy, that's Facts.

However earning a reasonable income and getting super jacked? That's damn easy.

Imagine your going to live till age 80? That's 80 damn year's!

I'm sure out of those 80 years, you can sacrifice only 2-3 years into getting fit and attractive!

It’s triggering to some people because it insults their narcissism. You see, some people genuinely get offended when they hear they need to improve themselves. They would rather live in the bubble that they are some special guy that is a) one day going to be discovered by the hot girl or b) collecting as much data as possible that the girls all want him (the cashier smiled at him, his cousins friend liked his Facebook post) but no actual tangible evidence like having a top teir girlfriend. It brings up all kind of shame and they realise that maybe, just maybe, the ‘hawt girl that was totally into me duuude’ was never into him and was just being nice. Because the only indication that a girl actually wanted you is that she enthusiastically slept with you. most guys are not born with the life circumstances and outright genetics to have the best women ogle over them, and instead of dedicating multiple years to reach that level, many would rather just believe it was their ‘text game’ that let them down and mentally masturbate to another rsd video or sosuave post where they can fantasise that the next interaction with a hot female will work out.
It makes people reflect on their life choices, maybe they chose some lazy ass comfortable career, they had some disguisting diet; they lack any passions or ambition, they live in a wack ass apartment etc and instead of being objective and making the change towards a better self they’d rather tear you down and argue to protect themselves and their delusions of perfection

 

[CornbreadFed]

We can have great back and forths , but look: you accuse me of being bruised and bitter..while its the opposite. I'm enlightened and full of love and positive energy. Due to the redpill. And that wasn't always the case, the transition from blue tk red LITERALLY hurt me physically.

I don't even know who you are. Whereas you are insulting my gf, dropping past topics as reference points, and repeatedly insulting me because I have said some anti red pill stuff in the past in response to a post that wasn't even directed at the OP. If you actually knew my post history, me and OP actually have more in common than you think, but no you have to let your emotional ego do the reading comprehension for you. It is clear as day who is the bruised and bitter one in this conversation.

 

[Gamisch]

I don't even know who you are. Whereas you are insulting my gf, dropping past topics as reference points, and repeatedly insulting me because I have said some anti red pill stuff in the past. It is clear as day who is the bruised and bitter one in this conversation.

You've ever seen a movie where the protagonist didn't went through a phase of pain before he became the villain/HERO? Pain is needed to grow, like muscles grow after breaking them down. You're talking to a man who is growing like cole as we speak, and I'll become more intimidating and scary for men like you by the SECOND.

Nobody knows anybody here you idiot. Yet I know men like you all to well..because i was just like you.

You cant can a con(you cvnt).

 

[CornbreadFed]

You've ever seen a movie where the protagonist didn't went through a phase of pain before he became the villain/HERO? Pain is needed to grow, like muscles grow after breaking them down. You're talking to a man who is growing like cole as we speak, and I'll become more intimidating and scary for men like you by the SECOND.

Nobody knows anybody here you idiot. Yet I know men like you all to well..because i was just like you.

You cant can a con(you cvnt).

I was red pilled the majority of my twenties. I grew out of it and made self-improvements which makes me the person I am today.

 

[Solomon]

Jeez fukin hell..

Is this like some ground breaking development? Fit sexy girls want to date fit in shape healthy men. Why is this so triggering to people?

By the time you made that lengthy post pushing back on OP, you could have done 20-30 press ups!

Here is the thing, getting rich/wealthy as a man isn't that straight forward, it's can be done, but most men will not become wealthy, that's Facts.

However earning a reasonable income and getting super jacked? That's damn easy.

Imagine your going to live till age 80? That's 80 damn year's!

I'm sure out of those 80 years, you can sacrifice only 2-3 years into getting fit and attractive!

I know a buddy of mine who is a D-list celebrity he is rich he was overweight but has really tight game but he didn't get any woman!
Guess what he lost 60 plus pounds is in the best shape of his life and now he's engaged money alone won't help most guys who are overweight, game alone won't work yes you may meet golddiggers but my buddy got in-shape and now he has a girl who adores him

The Redpill told you that game is the most important thing but there is a ceiling to everything as a man you should strive to be the best in all faucets spiritually, mentally, physically, fiancially, etc

 

[BadBoy89]

Until a man has at least invested 6-12 months of his life to get in shape and properly looksmax (skin, hair, teeth, style) and also reached a respectable income level he should not be allowed to comment on the dating scene.

When is a woman allowed to comment on the dating scene?

 

[SmoothSmooth]

I know a buddy of mine who is a D-list celebrity he is rich he was overweight but has really tight game but he didn't get any woman!
Guess what he lost 60 plus pounds is in the best shape of his life and now he's engaged money alone won't help most guys who are overweight, game alone won't work yes you may meet golddiggers but my buddy got in-shape and now he has a girl who adores him

The Redpill told you that game is the most important thing but there is a ceiling to everything as a man you should strive to be the best in all faucets spiritually, mentally, physically, fiancially, etc

Yeah, even tho I had money and height, it wasn’t until I got the body on point that I started getting the higher tier women ON AN ANIMALISTIC LEVEL, the 8s started ‘liking’ my shirtless instagram stories etc the tables started turning sexually. It was no longer about just dating, these girls are clearly overtly lusting after me. Heart eye emojis and all. She needs to be able to sexualise you and objectify your looks. You don’t need to be super swole gym bro type, but you need to look like you got cardiovascular stamina to go in bedroom, muscles she can hold onto, hard abs she can run her fingers across and the power to give her a pounding…

 

[Gamisch]

I am in a annoying back and forth with uber troll corn b*tch.

Op is 100% right. Firstly you smarten up. Next you conclude you need to stop trying to take shortcuts . The best version of yourself is a much fairer weapon amd tool to game women and life then scammimg your way through the game with lil azz tricks.

Get stronger on a financial, mental, spiritual, sexual, and physical level . Take time to get here. Like the power chamber of dragon ball z. Come back strong as F and try running game again, including advising other men.

I was red pilled the majority of my twenties. I grew out of it and made self-improvements which makes me the person I am today.

No you wasn't. You can't go from red back to bleu. Impossible. Once you know the truth, there's no way back...

The ONLY possible way to get back a little bit is what I described earlier: a fecking one of a kind unique case of a great woman who forced you step by step( from dating to going steady to living together to an engagement to a ring to being a great mother /leader to your your legacy/ family) to became somewhat more bluepilled again.

You've always been bluepilled and happily reverted back to it . I was the same. Be honest Cornbread.

Once you get played again you'll understand what i mean. Must be aggravating, living with all those masks and never being able to be your true self..