Until man has got in shape and started earning decent money, he shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on gender dynamics

[The Duke]

Meh, I like other cities more. I am just here because it is closer to family.



Am I going to lose my arm if the relationship fails? No, I will just find another girl and move on with my life. Instead of being scared of getting your heart broken by women and hiding behind this cynicism facade, y'all need to have an abundance mentality and realize women aren't the life destroying boogeymen unless YOU make it to be. Spinning plates is fun, but it gets old and unfulfilling after it loses its novelty. Every single man on this planet has had a negative experience with women, and 99% of them move on with their lives and don't let it permanently affect them.

I've done it all. Marriage, live in girlfriends, randoms, one nite stands, models, poor girls, ceo's. I think I went thru 10 in one year. But you got it figured out. Just trying to save you some heartache and open your eyes some more. Btw, I've always thought a guy should get married once. I'll go back in my hole.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Realistically 6-12 months is not enough even, average man is obese today, unless your dialed right in and don't fall off the wagon once, food and drink are incredibly powerful

 

[Manure Spherian]

Op is 100% right. Firstly you smarten up. Next you conclude you need to stop trying to take shortcuts . The best version of yourself is a much fairer weapon amd tool to game women and life then scammimg your way through the game with lil azz tricks.

OP mentioned “respectable income” then went onto describe the lives of the top 1 to 5% earners, which makes it so that absolutely no middle-class count in any dialogue about women. So that means that even a middle-class man, perhaps with an advanced degree, a comfortable, thought not rich, lifestyle, a home, and some experience with attractive, though not super-model-presenting women, should be disallowed to give pointers. Only 500k-plus-earning men with experience with tens from rich families should speak.

Or am I misinterpreting his message?

 

[CornbreadFed]

I've done it all. Marriage, live in girlfriends, randoms, one nite stands, models, poor girls, ceo's. I think I went thru 10 in one year. But you got it figured out. Just trying to save you some heartache and open your eyes some more. Btw, I've always thought a guy should get married once. I'll go back in my hole.

I am not even getting married lol.

OP mentioned “respectable income” then went onto describe the lives of the top 1 to 5% earners, which makes it so that absolutely no middle-class count in any dialogue about women. So that means that even a middle-class man, perhaps with an advanced degree, a comfortable, thought not rich, lifestyle, a home, and some experience with attractive, though not super-model-presenting women, should be disallowed to give pointers. Only 500k-plus-earning men with experience with tens from rich families should speak.

Or am I misinterpreting his message?

No, op is bouncing all over the place. The truth is these hot girls are purely pay to play or opportunistic and can be obtained at any point in a guys life.

 

[Gamisch]

OP mentioned “respectable income” then went onto describe the lives of the top 1 to 5% earners, which makes it so that absolutely no middle-class count in any dialogue about women. So that means that even a middle-class man, perhaps with an advanced degree, a comfortable, thought not rich, lifestyle, a home, and some experience with attractive, though not super-model-presenting women, should be disallowed to give pointers. Only 500k-plus-earning men with experience with tens from rich families should speak.

Or am I misinterpreting his message?

As usual people cherry picking something that's been said while completely missing the general most important consensus of the message.

Its not LITERALLY about how much a man earns , its about how a man positions hinself in "the game". I'll explain it some more (as I used to be the guy op talks about)

A man can "study game" and get a "respectable notch count" despite aint being doing and having shyte. The ultimate example would be a man whose in jail and yet gets women to visit and sleep with him. Kudos to Tyrone!!

But what if this Tyrone dude would start straightening out his shyte, get a career and see what life is like from the other side? Tyrone focused on soley women, thinking its the most important thing in the world..untill he ...hits the wall for example. Then his stream of hot women wil come to an end while he has nothing to show for. Somewhere between hitting the wall and being broke is where Tyrone will notice the decline in his SMV.

On the other side of the spectrum we have beta Bob. Beta Bob is a p00sy beggar, although he might even have a respectable career, degrees money on the bank ect..yet he struggles with vetting, getting and especially keeping women.

Both men should at some point step away, analyze themselves and find out what are their major flaws before they reentering the game.

If they do they'll have great stories to tell. Getting women is not all about getting women ya know..its MUCH more about yourself , and how you want others to view you.

Don't fall over the last part of the title. Might as well be: a man must study the game, go through the trenches and get back to advice fellow men once he KNOWS what this game is REALLY about from a successful pov.

for one men this will be about getting in shape, the other man must focus on money/career, the next must study gender dynamics, the next must become less socially akward, the next must become more one of a kind/unique and outspoken ect ect ect .

I am not even getting married lol.


No, op is bouncing all over the place. The truth is these hot girls are purely pay to play or opportunistic and can be obtained at any point in a guys life.

I'll be a little nicer to ya today aight?

Something tells me you got most of your women from this pov; pay for play.

Something also tells me you are unfamiliar with GENUINE desire..which is something you can't pay for.. perhaps that's why you feel uncomfortable in your current ltr; YOU are missing that sincere feeling of commitment and connection. Like you are stuck with a woman who tries to lock you down as a beta provider rather than a man of great OVERALL value. You can dump her and as you stated, get another one only to get in the EXACT same situation. Even for you the OP and thread are applicable: get OUT of the game, figure out where you must adjust and get back with way more knowledge, power and thus abundance.

Just be honest, and feel free to correct me ofcourse.

 

[soulforge]

That’s me in my picture. I make a low six figure salary, which in 2023, is a nothing-burger. I’m not rich. I’ve been commenting for a few weeks. Should I be disallowed?

Are you rich?

You might not be rich, but you earn a reasonable income and your jacked.

Getting wealthy doesn't happen over night, you can work on that.

You can still bag a solid 7.5 if you're in that kinda shape.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I was red pilled the majority of my twenties. I grew out of it and made self-improvements which makes me the person I am today.

You have demonstrated you don't even understand what Red Pill is; Red Pill is the idea of embracing self improvement, you didn't pull out of it, you steered into it.

Black pill is all that incel garbage

 

[Gamisch]

That’s me in my picture. I make a low six figure salary, which in 2023, is a nothing-burger. I’m not rich. I’ve been commenting for a few weeks. Should I be disallowed?

Are you rich?

If you struggle with women like for example me, then you might at least understand the Op. I make FAR from a 6 figure income, yet I have a notch count most man can only dream of. Doesn't make any sense ...yet i cant keep a woman I'd fall in love with if my life depends on it. Why? Because being broke means there's ALWAYS a BBD somewhere...I've learned that the HARD way!


So, this means YOU are doing something very very wrong..(a man who views him SELF as Tyrone/Chad) with 6 figure income and 6 pack is simply cleaning up shyte, no discussion ,period.

You should tell us all kinds of erotic novel like adventures by now...I expect Hank Moody Californication type of shyte from a man like you tbh.

If you can't tell me shyte like that, agajn, you need to have sturdy look into the mirror and study the game on a MUCH deeper level..time is ticking bro!

 

[Manure Spherian]

So, this means YOU are doing something very very wrong..(a man who views him SELF as Tyrone/Chad) with 6 figure income and 6 pack is simply cleaning up shyte, no discussion ,period.

You should tell us all kinds of erotic novel like adventures by now...I expect Hank Moody Californication type of shyte from a man like you tbh.

I actually don’t even know who you are addressing or what you’re specifically talking about?

 

[Manure Spherian]

As usual people cherry picking something that's been said while completely missing the general most important consensus of the message.

Its not LITERALLY about how much a man earns , its about how a man positions hinself in "the game". I'll explain it some more (as I used to be the guy op talks about)

A man can "study game" and get a "respectable notch count" despite aint being doing and having shyte. The ultimate example would be a man whose in jail and yet gets women to visit and sleep with him. Kudos to Tyrone!!

But what if this Tyrone dude would start straightening out his shyte, get a career and see what life is like from the other side? Tyrone focused on soley women, thinking its the most important thing in the world..untill he ...hits the wall for example. Then his stream of hot women wil come to an end while he has nothing to show for. Somewhere between hitting the wall and being broke is where Tyrone will notice the decline in his SMV.

On the other side of the spectrum we have beta Bob. Beta Bob is a p00sy beggar, although he might even have a respectable career, degrees money on the bank ect..yet he struggles with vetting, getting and especially keeping women.

Both men should at some point step away, analyze themselves and find out what are their major flaws before they reentering the game.

If they do they'll have great stories to tell. Getting women is not all about getting women ya know..its MUCH more about yourself , and how you want others to view you.

Don't fall over the last part of the title. Might as well be: a man must study the game, go through the trenches and get back to advice fellow men once he KNOWS what this game is REALLY about from a successful pov.

for one men this will be about getting in shape, the other man must focus on money/career, the next must study gender dynamics, the next must become less socially akward, the next must become more one of a kind/unique and outspoken ect ect ect .
I'll be a little nicer to ya today aight?

Something tells me you got most of your women from this pov; pay for play.

Something also tells me you are unfamiliar with GENUINE desire..which is something you can't pay for.. perhaps that's why you feel uncomfortable in your current ltr; YOU are missing that sincere feeling of commitment and connection. Like you are stuck with a woman who tries to lock you down as a beta provider rather than a man of great OVERALL value. You can dump her and as you stated, get another one only to get in the EXACT same situation. Even for you the OP and thread are applicable: get OUT of the game, figure out where you must adjust and get back with way more knowledge, power and thus abundance.

Just be honest, and feel free to correct me ofcourse.

I actually understand your explanation here.

 

[Manure Spherian]

You might not be rich, but you earn a reasonable income and your jacked.

Getting wealthy doesn't happen over night, you can work on that.

You can still bag a solid 7.5 if you're in that kinda shape.

Thank you.

I actually have a woman and children and have a moderate number of past sex partners. I was simply asking who OP thinks should be allowed, a cutoff of sorts.

 

[CornbreadFed]

On the other side of the spectrum we have beta Bob. Beta Bob is a p00sy beggar, although he might even have a respectable career, degrees money on the bank ect..yet he struggles with vetting, getting and especially keeping women.

Beta Bob and ray ray Tyrone not only go after a completely different set of women, but have different priorities. Beta Bob is more than likely struggling with women because he doesn’t want to invest the time in making himself more marketable to a tougher market. Tyrone can just be Tyrone and run through every low quality street rat in the hood.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You have demonstrated you don't even understand what Red Pill is; Red Pill is the idea of embracing self improvement, you didn't pull out of it, you steered into it.

Black pill is all that incel garbage

no it is not. Filling a guys head with toxic garbage and just throwing in “go to the gym” casually is not self improvement.

 

[Gamisch]

I actually don’t even know who you are addressing or what you’re specifically talking about?

I mean , you said you got the six pack and the 6 figure income.

Imho that means you should be cleaning up and live a life that resembles a erotic novel/Californication type of shyte where you pull women from everywhere out of nowhere.

If that's not the case you're doing something wrong . Like that surgeon dude we had here remember? 6 figure income, no matches. If if if a brother /Tyrone like me would be a surgeon...lol. as a commercial painter I'm already cleaning up these h0es. (Unfortunately literally H0es, no High value women!!!!!!)



Perhaps you understand what i mean now .(you know I never dont sugar coat anything, its NOT personal bro!)

Beta Bob and ray ray Tyrone not only go after a completely different set of women, but have different priorities. Beta Bob is more than likely struggling with women because he doesn’t want to invest the time in making himself more marketable to a tougher market. Tyrone can just be Tyrone and run through every low quality street rat in the hood.

Nope

Tyrone also wets the p00sy of the woman Beta bob ends up with..and once she leaves him to ride the CC Tyrone will be the first up on her list...ask me bout it..

remember what these h0es say. That "attraction just happens".

Beta bob has both a misunderstanding of the TRUE game, his own smv and perhaps even some insecurity issues sprinkled on top of all this.

Thank you.

I actually have a woman and children and have a moderate number of past sex partners. I was simply asking who OP thinks should be allowed, a cutoff of sorts.

ah oke that makes sense.

I thought you was "just" a regular Don Juan like most of us.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Imho that means you should be cleaning up and libe a life that resembles a erotic novel/Californication type of shyte qhere you pull women from everywhere out of nowhere.

This is where I lost you. I am not a Chad or Tyrone, and I’m a borderline manlet (5’10”), nor have I complained of a problem or ever asked for advice or what I should be doing. I have a wife and kids and I’ve had a moderate amount of sex partners. I never claimed to be extraordinary. So you lost me with your post.

I was simply asking what is the cutoff for allowance to comment on women according to OP’s standards and you appeared to have taken my words in a different direction.

 

[Gamisch]

This is where I lost you. I am not a Chad or Tyrone, and I’m a borderline manlet (5’10”), nor have I complained of a problem or ever asked for advice or what I should be doing. I have a wife and kids and I’ve had a moderate amount of sex partners. I never claimed to be extraordinary. So you lost me with your post.

I was simply asking what is the cutoff for allowance to comment on women according to OP’s standards and you appeared to have taken my words in a different direction.

Men like you .

Lets just say for NOW you get to hide behind the shield of being the family man.
( I'm a father too by the way)

If for whatever reason you'll become single and you have all those sixes' (6pack' income 'series' 6 feet) you should be cleaning up. If not..you ( or men LIKE you) are missing something they're doing wrong. That's my whole point .

I wonder (with all due respect) why a happily married man even spends time on SS? Just curious ?

 

[CornbreadFed]

Tyrone also wets the p00sy of the woman Beta bob ends up with..and once she leaves him to ride the CC Tyrone will be the first up on her list...ask me bout it..

remember what these h0es say. That "attraction just happens".

Beta bob has both a misunderstanding of the TRUE game, his own smv and perhaps even some insecurity issues sprinkled on top of all this.

If Beta Bob is in the hood or still in the hood, I agree. The black community is more of an exception IMHO. However, White or Asian Beta Bob do not have to worry about competing against Tyrone in the suburbs.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

The guy with the highest lay count that I know of is 5ft 5, doesn't have a high school diploma, constantly broke, and chubby.

Yes so become that you loser

 

[Gamisch]

If Beta Bob is in the hood or still in the hood, I agree. The black community is more of an exception IMHO. However, White or Asian Beta Bob do not have to worry about competing against Tyrone in the suburbs.

Did you take a time machine to the pre 2000 era?

There's this thing called OLD, which doesn't necessarily distinguish between suburb or hood. Tyrone ( handsome perhaps tall /muscular black dude with obvious game/ big D energy) is a REAL threat to both the mediocre asian and white dude. .


He isn't untill he is, let me just say it like that.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

no it is not. Filling a guys head with toxic garbage and just throwing in “go to the gym” casually is not self improvement.

Who even says that?