Until man has got in shape and started earning decent money, he shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on gender dynamics

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OP is talking about going after models that can easily date athletes, doctors, actors, and etc. You aren't going to get to that level with a reasonable income and getting jacked.
This is true, however you should always aim high.

Maybe you won't get a model, but with a reasonable income and being very fit, a solid 7.0 or 7.5 is easily doable.

Also keep in mind.. It's not just about getting the girl, it's about KEEPING the girl.

Even a 7.0 will ditch you, if you're not on your purpose, improving physically & building up some wealth.
 

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This is true, however you should always aim high.

Maybe you won't get a model, but with a reasonable income and being very fit, a solid 7.0 or 7.5 is easily doable.

Also keep in mind.. It's not just about getting the girl, it's about KEEPING the girl.

Even a 7.0 will ditch you, if you're not on your purpose, improving physically & building up some wealth.
Cornbread STFU, discouraging men from being their best self should be a permanent ban on this forum.
Yes being jacked and earning 6 figures will get you hot and potential model caliber women, don’t listen to that fool who never attempted and tried it and is trying to bring you down. Men that are jacked and earning 6 figures are a rarity, we are talking less than 3% of the male population…hot model type women are 5% of the female population, so there is plenty to go around
 

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Cornbread STFU, discouraging men from being their best self should be a permanent ban on this forum.
Yes being jacked and earning 6 figures will get you hot and potential model caliber women, don’t listen to that fool who never attempted and tried it and is trying to bring you down. Men that are jacked and earning 6 figures are a rarity, we are talking less than 3% of the male population…hot model type women are 5% of the female population, so there is plenty to go around
I make 200k a year and I am not jacked, but 13% BF(was 10% BF before I met my gf). You are just talking out of your @$$ at this point. I can tell when someone is full of shvt on this site when they pedestalize a broad group of women and speak in only absolutes.
 

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I make 200k a year and I am not jacked, but 13% BF(was 10% BF before I met my gf). You are just talking out of your @$$ at this point. I can tell when someone is full of shvt on this site when they pedestalize a broad group of women and speak in only absolutes.
200K a year curious where are you from?
200K a year where I live you can smash IG baddie types if you know where to find them
 

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200K a year curious where are you from?
200K a year where I live you can smash IG baddie types if you know where to find them
I live in Atlanta, Georgia. I agree but, I did that and got bored and realized they were for the streets lol.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I live in Atlanta, Georgia. I agree but, I did that and got bored and realized they were for the streets lol.
Serious question? If you're earning 200k+ and can smash IG models to the point where you actually get bored of them.

Where do you get the time to be lurking around on SS arguing with other posters?

I don't ask this question in demeaning way.
 

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I wouldn't get bored of smashing IG models. Obviously they for the street by defining.
It's easier to say this if you haven't done it lol. Like I said before, they are monetized so you don't need to be a Chad to get with one. I banged the ones that were cleat and status chasers, but just wanted to hook up. They will never respect you and always be a narcissist inside. Y'all need to understand that very hot people live completely different lives than normal people and their behavior reflects that.

Todd V has a decent video on the reality of sleeping with models.

 

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Serious question? If you're earning 200k+ and can smash IG models to the point where you actually get bored of them.

Where do you get the time to be lurking around on SS arguing with other posters?

I don't ask this question in demeaning way.
Well I work remote, so I can post on here during the day on the weekdays. Notice I rarely post on the Weekends.
He's referring to 10% earners (abput $100K), typical in the DFW area, 10% is about $85K, where in NY is about $350K, so $200K in NY is not impressive.
Please refresh your feed before commenting
 

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Well I work remote, so I can post on here during the day on the weekdays. Notice I rarely post on the Weekends.


Please refresh your feed before commenting
Ah ok fair enough. I would love to work from home.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I live in Atlanta, Georgia. I agree but, I did that and got bored and realized they were for the streets lol.
I love ATL, yall got some thick ass latina and white women out there goodness
I couldn't do it though I remember when I was in ATL 2 years ago and I heard a guy yell "You gave me HERPES Clarissa"
guy then approached me and said "Don't fvck with her she has herpes" i couldn't wait for my Uber to come fast enough
 

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God forbid a girl have so much genuine interest in a guy that she wants to progress the relationship. I do not see how that is a negative thing because last time I checked, this is a dating forum not a bitter rage red pill forum. This site is for progressing your experiences with women not sitting around a Red Pill Campfire and crying about them.
Don't fool yourself into believing the reason she wants to progress the relationship is because of her genuine high interest.

It's never this, that's just the nice story that gets pedaled. A woman's desire to get married is all about her.

Cornbread, I think you are a little over confident at times. You lack experience with women. Other guys see it in you as well.
 

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Until a man has at least invested 6-12 months of his life to get in shape and properly looksmax (skin, hair, teeth, style) and also reached a respectable income level he should not be allowed to comment on the dating scene.
That’s me in my picture. I make a low six figure salary, which in 2023, is a nothing-burger. I’m not rich. I’ve been commenting for a few weeks. Should I be disallowed?

Are you rich?
 

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I love ATL, yall got some thick ass latina and white women out there goodness
I couldn't do it though I remember when I was in ATL 2 years ago and I heard a guy yell "You gave me HERPES Clarissa"
guy then approached me and said "Don't fvck with her she has herpes" i couldn't wait for my Uber to come fast enough
Meh, I like other cities more. I am just here because it is closer to family.

Don't fool yourself into believing the reason she wants to progress the relationship is because of her genuine high interest.

It's never this, that's just the nice story that gets pedaled. A woman's desire to get married is all about her.

Cornbread, I think you are a little over confident at times. You lack experience with women. Other guys see it in you as well.
Am I going to lose my arm if the relationship fails? No, I will just find another girl and move on with my life. Instead of being scared of getting your heart broken by women and hiding behind this cynicism facade, y'all need to have an abundance mentality and realize women aren't the life destroying boogeymen unless YOU make it to be. Spinning plates is fun, but it gets old and unfulfilling after it loses its novelty. Every single man on this planet has had a negative experience with women, and 99% of them move on with their lives and don't let it permanently affect them.
 

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I'm amused by how the standards for things have changed over the past decade or so.

People claiming:

1. I'm a model - no, if you're not contracted with a modeling agency, you're not. Posting your cameltoe on Instagram doesn't make you a model.
2. I'm a millionaire - no, you're 1.1 million dollar home that's leveraged to fack belongs to the bank Cletis.
3. I'm a CEO - um, what a CEO of paperclips? Yeah, I'm a CEO fncktard, no, you're not.
 

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I'm amused by how the standards for things have changed over the past decade or so.

People claiming:

1. I'm a model - no, if you're not contracted with a modeling agency, you're not. Posting your cameltoe on Instagram doesn't make you a model.
2. I'm a millionaire - no, you're 1.1 million dollar home that's leveraged to fack belongs to the bank Cletis.
3. I'm a CEO - um, what a CEO of paperclips? Yeah, I'm a CEO fncktard, no, you're not.
You seem like a reasonable guy. Do you think commentary on women should be restricted to seven-figure-earning, exceptionally handsome, and famous men from powerful and rich families who have only had modelesque, Ivy League-attending women from rich families?
 

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No, I do not. But remember, this is the Internets, where everyone is a rockstar and inflates their self-worth ridiculously. However, I think it is of little value to have men who are not successful, with women providing advice on how to be successful.

It's all so subjective, though. We have some good men here dedicated to trying to help others out, but we also have over-eager, young Jack Russells on crack biting at everyone's heels and taking any opportunity to tear down a fellow man when possible. The sooner these punks wake up, the better they will be for it. It's like the guys that watch horrible accident compilations on YouTube where people are getting hurt and sit there and laugh at it.

p.s. reasonably snarky if anything :)

You seem like a reasonable guy. Do you think commentary on women should be restricted to seven-figure-earning, exceptionally handsome, and famous men from powerful and rich families who have only had modelesque, Ivy League-attending women from rich families?
 
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No, I do not. But remember, this is the Internets, where everyone is a rockstar and inflates their self-worth ridiculously.

p.s. reasonably snarky if anything :)
I'm a CEO of a company that's currently unprofitable this is the part people don't tell you lmfao
 

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I go to the gym 5x a week... OPs thread motivated me to go to the gym 6 days a week and get my money up. Thanks op.

Might aswell get some fit biches numbers while I'm in the gym.
 

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Stop working hard.

Start thinking smart.

Its all a Game. Dont get sucked into the system or you will lose.

See the Game then it all becomes clear.

To See the Game you have to step back from it, and think. Observe. Learn. Test.
 
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