Until man has got in shape and started earning decent money, he shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on gender dynamics

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Until a man has at least invested 6-12 months of his life to get in shape and properly looksmax (skin, hair, teeth, style) and also reached a respectable income level he should not be allowed to comment on the dating scene. Bro, you had your WHOLE life to get in shape - what’s your excuse? Guarantee 90% of the men complaining are also men are out of shape or who barely make enough to live a good lifestyle. What a joke. Take care of yourself first. Yes women clearly DO care about looks as much, if not even MORE than men do. Get in the gym - do it for YOU. So you can see a beast when you look in the mirror and you won’t be this SOFT out of shape mess that’s on the internet whining about women and theorising about ‘game’. Get SEXY and rich and see how things change. Just like men naturally want to fk young, healthy women (no game needed), women naturally want to fk strong, in shape rich men (no game needed). This is biology. The problem isn’t women. The problem is YOU.
 

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Its a Discussion Forum. Its not about being allowed to have an opinion, its about how much value our posts bring to the community. But you might be on to something.

Edit: I think @Jesse Pinkman made a similar thread a while back. I think it was about the guys with the best results being the leaders of the community. It was a good thread.
 
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Until a man has at least invested 6-12 months of his life to get in shape and properly looksmax (skin, hair, teeth, style) and also reached a respectable income level he should not be allowed to comment on the dating scene. Bro, you had your WHOLE life to get in shape - what’s your excuse? Guarantee 90% of the men complaining are also men are out of shape or who barely make enough to live a good lifestyle. What a joke. Take care of yourself first. Yes women clearly DO care about looks as much, if not even MORE than men do. Get in the gym - do it for YOU. So you can see a beast when you look in the mirror and you won’t be this SOFT out of shape mess that’s on the internet whining about women and theorising about ‘game’. Get SEXY and rich and see how things change. Just like men naturally want to fk young, healthy women (no game needed), women naturally want to fk strong, in shape rich men (no game needed). This is biology. The problem isn’t women. The problem is YOU.
This is why I use to only take advice from guys who were legit on this site, It's easy to discern once you've been around guys who are successful with women what do they all have in common? the guys are in shape they may not be buff, or ripped but they are in shape and focus on their dress style etc

In 2023 you have few guys like this on this site because they are for the most part out in the real world and a guy who does well doesn't really need sosuave unless he's dealing with a one off situation or wants to talk to like-minded men about female dynamics. In the real world, a 6 figure, 6 series, 6 pack baller is not gonna be talking to a fat slob who is dusty living in his moms basement about female dynamics but on the internet, this is the norm

The guy with the highest lay count that I know of is 5ft 5, doesn't have a high school diploma, constantly broke, and chubby.
Are the girls hot though? Anyone can smash chubby broads just go on tinder and swipe 4-6 hours straight you're guaranteed to find one who is DTF unless you're an uber-uglycell
 
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This is why I use to only take advice from guys who were legit on this site, It's easy to discern once you've been around guys who are successful with women what do they all have in common? the guys are in shape they may not be buff, or ripped but they are in shape and focus on their dress style etc

In 2023 you have few guys like this on this site because they are for the most part out in the real world and a guy who does well doesn't really need sosuave unless he's dealing with a one off situation or wants to talk to like-minded men about female dynamics. In the real world, a 6 figure, 6 series, 6 pack baller is not gonna be talking to a fat slob who is dusty living in his moms basement about female dynamics but on the internet, this is the norm



Are the guys hot though? Anyone can smash chubby broads just go on tinder and swipe 4-6 hours straight you're guaranteed to find one who is DTF unless you're an uber-uglycell
Yes, they are hot, but they are mainly NEETS or uneducated service workers, so they aren't my cup of tea. For example, his ex was in a popular rap song music video.
 

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Hi SmoothSmooth,
Well I guess using your criterion,should the reincarnation of poor Old Don Juan himself,turn up on our doorstep we'll just have to give him the bums rush! LOL.
 

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The guy with the highest lay count that I know of is 5ft 5, doesn't have a high school diploma, constantly broke, and chubby.
LAY COUNT MEANS NOTHING LOL nobody in the real world gives a f about how many bottom feeding whales you banged after investing and wasting hours of your life chasing them and scavenging the streets looking to ‘up your count’ with a hoe that’s banging a new guy every week lmao that’s pathetic. WHAT MATTERS IS THE CALIBER OF WOMEN YOU DATE AND HOW AGGRESSIVELY THEY CHASE YOU. AND NO top teir woman is going to have a one night stand with an average dude she just met to ‘up his lay count’ based on his ‘games lmao GET REAL!!! A top teir woman is going to date a top teir man, this is BIOLOGY, she can choose from male models, doctors, athletes, lawyers, ceos, musicians and no amount of internet theorising or hypothetical delusions is going to change that! Just look outside! Go to any upscale professional area and see who the models or top women are actually going for, it’s not your 5ft5 chubby ‘friend’ without a high school diploma haha get real, funny how it’s always a story about a ‘friend’ but never the guy himself coming out with this retarded nonsense it’s the equivalent of saying a fat out of shape masculine ogre looking female can date a top baseball player - nope!
 

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LAY COUNT MEANS NOTHING LOL nobody in the real world gives a f about how many bottom feeding whales you banged after investing and wasting hours of your life chasing them and scavenging the streets looking to ‘up your count’ with a hoe that’s banging a new guy every week lmao that’s pathetic. WHAT MATTERS IS THE CALIBER OF WOMEN YOU DATE AND HOW AGGRESSIVELY THEY CHASE YOU. AND NO top teir woman is going to have a one night stand with an average dude she just met to ‘up his lay count’ based on his ‘games lmao GET REAL!!! A top teir woman is going to date a top teir man, this is BIOLOGY, she can choose from male models, doctors, athletes, lawyers, ceos, musicians and no amount of internet theorising or hypothetical delusions is going to change that! Just look outside! Go to any upscale professional area and see who the models or top women are actually going for, it’s not your 5ft5 chubby ‘friend’ without a high school diploma haha get real, funny how it’s always a story about a ‘friend’ but never the guy himself coming out with this retarded nonsense it’s the equivalent of saying a fat out of shape masculine ogre looking female can date a top baseball player - nope!
Smooth I'm curious What is your definition of a "Top Tier Women" I know looks are important but just want to get your take on this

cheers!
 

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This is why I use to only take advice from guys who were legit on this site, It's easy to discern once you've been around guys who are successful with women what do they all have in common? the guys are in shape they may not be buff, or ripped but they are in shape and focus on their dress style etc

In 2023 you have few guys like this on this site because they are for the most part out in the real world and a guy who does well doesn't really need sosuave unless he's dealing with a one off situation or wants to talk to like-minded men about female dynamics. In the real world, a 6 figure, 6 series, 6 pack baller is not gonna be talking to a fat slob who is dusty living in his moms basement about female dynamics but on the internet, this is the norm



Are the girls hot though? Anyone can smash chubby broads just go on tinder and swipe 4-6 hours straight you're guaranteed to find one who is DTF unless you're an uber-uglycell
Exactly. I wouldn’t date any of these 6/10 tinder girls, it would be an INSULT to my own self worth LOL Solomon understands, the real game isn’t on sosuave, true playboys are living in Manhattan earning 6 figs and spending an hour/day in a private gym after work…the ONLY reason I am even on sosuave is because I levelled up in my mid 20s and now I realise how much BS is being spoken on these sites I used to frequent!
 

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Smooth I'm curious What is your definition of a "Top Tier Women" I know looks are important but just want to get your take on this

cheers!
A woman that can have her pick of any man she wants. 8/10 in looks minimum, age 19-25, has a decent university degree/career pathway OR is in media/modelling, doesn’t have a personality disorder, great style/fashion, goes to the gym, good network of female friends (girls wanna be around her), probably had one or two long term boyfriends that were respectable men (eg high earning men or popular alpha type college boys), good relationship with family/dad -> she is top of the female social hierarchy. The type of girl that gets tons of orbiters on social media and **** loads of attention. And there are lots of them out there, many in stable relationships with top teir dudes.
By the way, these kind of women CHOOSE the men they date. They don’t get ‘gamed’ (even top teir pua mystery said you can’t game 9s and 10s). They have solid standards and criteria and you can’t break them!
If you think a 8/10 23 year old law student girl with blonde hair that goes to the gym everyday and has a tight body is going to smash a 5ft 5 chubby guy with no high school diploma you need to see a therapist!
Lmao basic common sense, if a girl has ever dated an in shape high achieving popular alpha type guy with muscles she will know her worth and never downgrade to a chubby unattractive scrub and become a laughing stock amongst all her female friends
 
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The guy with the highest lay count that I know of is 5ft 5, doesn't have a high school diploma, constantly broke, and chubby.
Stfu.

When we say gravity pulls things to earth you'll say you know a guy who defies gravity.

You are just a weak azz troll at this point. Whats your fecking point? Op tries to inspire men to be the best they can be to make it easier to get better quality of women.


You are just a bitter man stuck in a ltr with a hb sub 5 woman whose forcing a ring outta ya. Hey , I understand that is frustrating!

Go to reddit .
 

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Stfu.

When we say gravity pulls things to earth you'll say you know a guy who defies gravity.

You are just a weak azz troll at this point. Whats your fecking point? Op tries to inspire men to be the best they can be to make it easier to get better quality of women.


You are just a bitter man stuck in a ltr with a hb sub 5 woman whose forcing a ring outta ya. Hey , I understand that is frustrating!

Go to reddit .
Lots of built-up energy for an internet post.
 

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Lots of built-up energy for an internet post.
Stfu

How is it going with your ducking the Special Request from your hb-sub5 soon- to- be- wife?

I am actually in a great mood bruh. Life is smiling at me from all angles .

Yes, they are hot, but they are mainly NEETS or uneducated service workers, so they aren't my cup of tea. For example, his ex was in a popular rap song music video.
Yuu ghey? Judging whether your NEET friends are hot or not???

Like having a 304 gf showing her azz of in a rap video is an accomplishment nowadays . Its not 2001 homeboy...Its rather a testimony of poor life choices.

You exposed yourself in multiple ways and it went completely over your head lol. Stfu and go to reddit ,fits you WAY better bro!
 

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As a man you are competing with a woman’s previous experiences. If she has previously been with an in-shape rich man she will never be content with a chubby broke guy, especially when it comes to taking off your shirt and trying to get her wet . Hot girls that have dated men at their top of their game will have those kind of experiences as their baseline expectation. She may compromise on little things give and take as no man is perfect (eg one man may be a little shorter than her exes but have more status, or another may be less good looking facially but has an exceptional talent or is taller or they have some special connection)…but there is still high criteria across the board!
 

Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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As a man you are competing with a woman’s previous experiences. If she has previously been with an in-shape rich man she will never be content with a chubby broke guy, especially when it comes to taking off your shirt and trying to get her wet . Hot girls that have dated men at their top of their game will have those kind of experiences as their baseline expectation. She may compromise on little things give and take as no man is perfect (eg one man may be a little shorter than her exes but have more status, or another may be less good looking facially but has an exceptional talent or is taller or they have some special connection)…but there is still high criteria across the board!
You just hit the nail on the head. Now its time to get ready for all the "Body count doesnt matter, dont ask questions you dont want to know the answer to, she will never tell you the real number anyway, multiply whatever number she says by 4, there are no virgin women, you are insecure/unrealistic/delusional, its not the 19xxs anymore" replies.
 

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LAY COUNT MEANS NOTHING LOL nobody in the real world gives a f about how many bottom feeding whales you banged after investing and wasting hours of your life chasing them and scavenging the streets looking to ‘up your count’ with a hoe that’s banging a new guy every week lmao that’s pathetic. WHAT MATTERS IS THE CALIBER OF WOMEN YOU DATE AND HOW AGGRESSIVELY THEY CHASE YOU. AND NO top teir woman is going to have a one night stand with an average dude she just met to ‘up his lay count’ based on his ‘games lmao GET REAL!!! A top teir woman is going to date a top teir man, this is BIOLOGY, she can choose from male models, doctors, athletes, lawyers, ceos, musicians and no amount of internet theorising or hypothetical delusions is going to change that! Just look outside! Go to any upscale professional area and see who the models or top women are actually going for, it’s not your 5ft5 chubby ‘friend’ without a high school diploma haha get real, funny how it’s always a story about a ‘friend’ but never the guy himself coming out with this retarded nonsense it’s the equivalent of saying a fat out of shape masculine ogre looking female can date a top baseball player - nope!
You and @Gamisch need to read my posts further. One, that post wasn't even a response to your OP. Second, I clarified that the women he is fvcking aren't my cup of tea, but they may be for other posters on this forum.

Now back to your post. So you just want to be a beta male provider to a gold digger? Be my guest, but you will not get the same treatment from a girl with genuine interest in you. The most you will get is being able to show off a hot girl in public. Top tier women are monetized and for the streets. You really think you are the exception when guys like Tom Brady and Leo DiCaprio can't tame them? Leo rotates these women because he knows their loyalty has an expiration date similar to unpasteurized milk.
 

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Stfu

How is it going with your ducking the Special Request from your hb-sub5 soon- to- be- wife?

I am actually in a great mood bruh. Life is smiling at me from all angles .


Yuu ghey? Judging whether your NEET friends are hot or not???

Like having a 304 gf showing her azz of in a rap video is an accomplishment nowadays . Its not 2001 homeboy...Its rather a testimony of poor life choices.

You exposed yourself in multiple ways and it went completely over your head lol. Stfu and go to reddit ,fits you WAY better bro!
Be nice
 
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As a man you are competing with a woman’s previous experiences. If she has previously been with an in-shape rich man she will never be content with a chubby broke guy, especially when it comes to taking off your shirt and trying to get her wet . Hot girls that have dated men at their top of their game will have those kind of experiences as their baseline expectation. She may compromise on little things give and take as no man is perfect (eg one man may be a little shorter than her exes but have more status, or another may be less good looking facially but has an exceptional talent or is taller or they have some special connection)…but there is still high criteria across the board!
The thing that gets me smooth is that guys complain about women being picky and having high standards when those same men have high standards themselves.

Why are men shocked that a fit woman wants a fit man?
why are men shocked that women want a guy who has the baseline of a car, a nice apartment and job when she has that herself?

You have a lot of men who are just as delusional as the woman they complain about Why would a woman who is an 8 or 9 (I don't believe in 10s) settle for some guy who is a 5 with a dad bod? what because you have a great personality?

water seeks its own level

It's really that simple and incels refuse to accept this, hence they are so furious.
 
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You and @Gamisch need to read my posts further. One, that post wasn't even a response to your OP. Second, I clarified that the women he is fvcking aren't my cup of tea, but they may be for other posters on this forum.

Now back to your post. So you just want to be a beta male provider to a gold digger? Be my guest, but you will not get the same treatment from a girl with genuine interest in you. The most you will get is being able to show off a hot girl in public. Top tier women are monetized and for the streets. You really think you are the exception when guys like Tom Brady and Leo DiCaprio can't tame them? Leo rotates these women because he knows their loyalty has an expiration date similar to unpasteurized milk.
You also simply could've liked the post, and throw some encouraging words at it.

But oke if i misread it my bad.

Still I don't like your b*tch azz :rofl: ;):)
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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